Quotes of the day

Black vs Negro: A Note
I am very influenced by the understanding that black consciousness was created in order to liberate the Negro from his mental condition of servitude. It was an intellectual achievment of significant dimensions not only here in the US but in Africa, the UK and Brazil as well.

Black isn’t a color, it is a concept. However the meaning of that concept has become degraded. Some Negroes think everything they do is Black. Not so. I say there are some very precise definitions that were generated by Black Nationalism that remain useful today and that much of what goes by the term ‘Black’ is only derivative of that. I’m also saying that there were some very foolish and shortsighted ideas in Black Nationalism that need to be dumped. My purpose in black conservatism is to separate the good stuff from the junk using an historically accurate and realistic assessment of African Americans and their liberation movements, culture, religion and bearing. All that is what I call the Old School.

I start with what I call the Old School Core Values, and get more detailed from there. This is the project of Cobb.

http://www.mdcbowen.org/p1/cobb/core.htm

So from the perspective of a very basic understanding that ‘every brother aint a brother’ I have no more problem in making distinctions between African Americans than in distinguishing Catholics from Methodists. There have been occasions when this discrimination has been misinterpreted because I am active with Republicans, that my distinctions flow from some anti-black pathology. (as if they owned black and accurately represented) In fact it flows from the same school of public self-criticism engaged by Bill Cosby and Booker T. Washington.

So yeah, the kitchen is hot.

When I speak of ‘blackfolks’, I am talking about average African Americans of no particular stripe. The same counts of ‘whitefolks’. African American and European American sounds so demographic and precise. I don’t always want to be that formal.

When I speak of ‘Negroes’ it is casually derogatory and should be interpreted in the context of some particular African American who has somehow lost sight of the benefits of Black mental liberation. A ‘Negro’ may be a fine person but they are not reaching their full human potential primarily owing to a condition of using whitefolks as their existential model. The Negro is provincial and not directed towards self-improvement. And that’s way more than I needed to say about that because I almost never use the term. Nevertheless it is useful to recognize that I considered all African Americans (with the possible exceptions of Garveyites) to be Negroes during the period between Reconstruction and WW2.

I bring up this definitional note in reference to a discussion held elsewhere over a prior post of mine “Who Owns Black”, which I consider to be both a cultural and political provocation.

http://cobb.typepad.com/cobb/2005/10/black_vs_negro__1.html

Quickest link I could find, as it happens by a right-of-center blogger, Cobb.
It has connotations of a less-than-independant black class, whatever the context.
Meaning it has political weight, just as “man-caused disaster” is very meaningful, even if the bureaucratic decisions and resources used for containing and resolving a “man-caused disaster” and “a terrorist attack” are identical.

Chris_Balsz on January 10, 2010 at 11:19 PM

This is Cobb’s point of view and these are definitions that it appears he defined for the purpose of his discussion.

MeatHeadinCA on January 10, 2010 at 11:31 PM

No. It isn’t. Most black Americans do not call themselves Negro. Negro is a derogatory term for a black underclass.
I told you that.
You asked for a source for this radical idea.
I found one.
You say that my source made it up.
Funny how I know about it… funny how nobody discussing Reid’s remarks refers to the Negro reaction.
Just one of those coincidences you must run into a lot…

So, please explain the continued, respected and successful history of the United Negro College Fund, run from 1944 until today, by blacks.

Already did. It is a reminder of the days when they were all Negroes. Just like the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People likes to remind everybody why they felt a need for a NAACP.

Chris_Balsz on January 10, 2010 at 11:46 PM

They’re still negroes. It’s a scientific term or classification of race. It’s only racist if you have been indoctrinated in white guilt by race pimps of all stripes.

thomasaur on January 10, 2010 at 11:51 PM

There isn’t a scientific definition of race.

Chris_Balsz on January 11, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Oh Aptly Named One

you are arguing on the internet. When you asked me for a source, did you assume I was going to pull a book off the shelf, scan it, upload a .pdf file, and then let you read it?

Chris_Balsz on January 11, 2010 at 12:06 AM