Pelosi: We’re “very close” to a deal with the Senate on ObamaCare
posted at 8:22 pm on January 6, 2010 by Allahpundit
Nine months ago, the quarterly party identification gap was 13 points. Now it’s five. Fully 67 percent of likely voters say that their congressman doesn’t represent their best interests. Democratic consultants are whispering to lefty blogs that they genuinely fear losing the House.
None of it matters. You’ll eat this crap sandwich and like it.
“We’ve had a very intense couple of days,” Pelosi said. “After our leadership meeting this morning, our staff engaged with the Senate and the administration staff to review the legislation, suggest legislative language. I think we’re very close to reconciliation.”…
House Democrats are reluctant to abandon elements of their legislation favored by liberals but rejected by Senate moderates, but face doing just that. That means no new government insurance plan, which the House wanted but the Senate omitted, and changes to the House’s preferred payment scheme. The House wants to raise income taxes on individuals making more than $500,000 and couples over $1 million. The Senate would slap a new tax on high-cost insurance plans. Although the Obama administration supports the Senate’s insurance tax as a cost-saver, labor unions, which contribute heavily to Democratic candidates, oppose it.
According to the AP, The One’s ready to tell the House to suck it up on that latter point too. There’s only one thing that stands between us and ObamaCare now, my friends: Blanche Lincoln’s terrible, terrible poll numbers. Er, I mean Blanche Lincoln’s inspiring devotion to governmental ethics.
Dude, I think it’s over.
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OT BREAKING:
And I recently read that 140 House Democrats have signed a statement just the other day saying they will not vote for a bill that has the tax in it and it was their #1 issue to remove.
Enoxo on January 6, 2010 at 8:24 PM
They are tanking their own bill now, then will try to flip the blame on the GOP.
alexwest on January 6, 2010 at 8:26 PM
I thought Dear Liar said our taxes weren’t going up. Can we now shout “You lie!” at him?
rbj on January 6, 2010 at 8:27 PM
Do it, I DARE you!
And, when you’re looking for a job, congress, we will be hounding our new representatives to undo all the crap you did to this country.
And, then, we move on to 2012, where, God willing, there will be a conservative in the WH!
HornetSting on January 6, 2010 at 8:28 PM
It’s been over for a long time. Not sure why people have continued to cling to false hope that this would be stopped.
Midas on January 6, 2010 at 8:28 PM
I got a fevah, and the only prescription… is more cowbell!
Colorado Anne on January 6, 2010 at 8:28 PM
It’s amazing they think tens of thousands of physicians are just going to merrily go along with this.
Marcus on January 6, 2010 at 8:28 PM
I’ve been doing that since I lived in Chicago and watched him destroy every republican opponent that ran against him in IL. A truly loathsome human being. No character.
daesleeper on January 6, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Which would’ve been more off-topic had Allah not linked the story in his post. :-)
amerpundit on January 6, 2010 at 8:29 PM
This wasn’t on C-SPAN so it isn’t happening, Obama told us so.
farright on January 6, 2010 at 8:29 PM
If so, great! Anything to prevent this monstrosity.
dIb on January 6, 2010 at 8:29 PM
How many times has either San Fran Nan, Dirty Harry, Sen Baucus etc…….. tell us they were VERY CLOSE to a deal??????????
Surprise Surprise Surprise ANOTHER BLUFF!
ordi on January 6, 2010 at 8:30 PM
I’m very close to throwing up if I have to see her picture many more times.
Colorado Anne on January 6, 2010 at 8:31 PM
Nancy has done a great job running her meetings./
I watched it all day on C-Span/
Knucklehead on January 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM
Didn’t she say something similar last June?
I smell tuna and shrimp.
SouthernGent on January 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM
BOR is showing Nancy and the obama clip about C-Span.
Had to take a deep breath and look away for fear of throwing the couch through the flat screen.
I cannot wait until she is booted the hell out of the speaker’s seat.
HornetSting on January 6, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Joy.
Bishop on January 6, 2010 at 8:33 PM
You need to add the linky Anne…
Seven Percent Solution on January 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Since everything Nancy says is the opposite of true, does this mean that they are very far from reconciliation?
SheofTwoMinds on January 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Man, I have a really inappropriate joke for that one. :)
ThePrez on January 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Can we get some humpbot, Allah?
I hear Reaper and I crave humpbot.
HornetSting on January 6, 2010 at 8:34 PM
anybody got a link to the c-span vid?
Joe Caps on January 6, 2010 at 8:35 PM
We are so screwed…
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Yeah, I didn’t notice the link until after I posted. :(
Where’s my edit button, HotAir!
Enoxo on January 6, 2010 at 8:35 PM
I
LOVE
IT!!
every time I see it!
The ONLY thing to laugh at here I guess.
Colorado Anne on January 6, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Unbelievably, CBS Evening News brought the C-SPAN thing up tonight. I can’t wait for the day that Nancy mounts her broom and flies away.
farright on January 6, 2010 at 8:37 PM
I think when any party is so determined that they are willing to lose voters, then it’s done.
This reminds me of Bush’s 2nd term. He dug into the surge. Boy, his approval ratings dropped.
But he turned out to be right. Let’s hope that there is some good in this bill. Let’s hope we see reality turns out better than predictions.
It doesn’t look promising, for sure. But there are real people who need some real help in this area of life.
AnninCA on January 6, 2010 at 8:37 PM
The Libs are on the run … the goal line is this shameful health care proposal. They will lose the game when “we the people” run their next kickoff back for a touchdown.
These people are deluded.
Push em back push em back … way back!
ORrighty on January 6, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Praise the Messiah. He will deliver we conservatives to the promised land of government encroachment and slavery. Hallejuah! Thank God Obama was born an American. Let us all bow and scrape before the most merciful one. We whites are guilty of being born white. We must pay forever for the sin of our birth.
technopeasant on January 6, 2010 at 8:37 PM
this needs to be reported to flag@whitehouse.gov
Joe Caps on January 6, 2010 at 8:38 PM
Best practice – assume the exact opposite of everything she says to be true.
singlemalt_18 on January 6, 2010 at 8:38 PM
I’m looking out my window, but I don’t see any locusts….
HornetSting on January 6, 2010 at 8:38 PM
Elect Scott Brown on Jan 19 and maybe the whole thing can be stopped.
bayview on January 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM
is that elevator music for our new hospitals…..?
ted c on January 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM
I also heard there was a carve out that excepted taxing high-end union medical plans. Obama will make sure his union buddies aren’t penalized in any way. There’s a reason the union head guy visits the White House every week…
marybel on January 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM
What is needed is the shutting down of the underground subway system that Congress uses to get past the hordes of angry Americans with the buckets of tar and feathers……
… then they will be forced to either sleep in their dirty underwear, or leave by the exits with their sick, plastic smiles on their faces.
Seven Percent Solution on January 6, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Here is the article I was talking about:
So if Obama is forcing them to eat this tax of high-end medical insurance (or cadillac plans)… I wonder how many of these 190 will accept it and how many will oppose it.
Enoxo on January 6, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Send Money
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Technically “end game” happened at the polls in November 2008. Our fate was kind of sealed that day, for something drastically wrong. Gotta say, thought it would be the troops abroad first.
LastRick on January 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM
Two things:
If he did agree with that, it may exclude union high-end plans.
Or, he’s promised the unions a separate bill that will exclude their plans, much like they’re doing with the Medicare “doctor fix” deal.
TXUS on January 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM
I ain’t over till it’s over, and passing this bill is not the end of the fight. Unless we give up.
We simply need to fight on, tooth and nail. Cowards like Dodd and Dorgan will run. Deep down, all liberals are cowards, or they wouldn’t send SEIU bully boys around to push on people or dream of disarming citizens. They also know they are liars and this is about them and their access to power and wealth…at our expense.
Harry Schell on January 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM
I always carry a small container of water in my briefcase….just in case I get within range.
You never know, it might work…….melting and all that.
BobMbx on January 6, 2010 at 8:43 PM
I don’t hold out much hope for any Democrat deserters on this apocalyptic legislation. Any one of them complaining at this point is just posturing. Including Blanche Lincoln. They’re talking big now, but when it comes time to vote they’ll go into Zombie Democrat mode and vote for it.
You know they will. They always do.
Somehow in Democrat world, it’s better to lose your Congressional seat than to face any criticism from Congressional buddies and from the MSM. It’s not rational, but there it is.
SlaveDog on January 6, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Cold civil war to follow.
Mason on January 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Good idea but I don’t think that water works on botox.
farright on January 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM
OT………..Dennis Miller is on fire on BOR tonight. Never heard him this serious before.
Knucklehead on January 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM
When can we put this woman (Nancy Pelosi) on trial for corruption?
doriangrey on January 6, 2010 at 8:46 PM
He is really fired up and mad as hell, isn’t he?
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 8:46 PM
220…221, whatever it takes.
Bruce in NH on January 6, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Speaker Leatherface is bluffing.
OhioCoastie on January 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM
The most vapid, insipid, tiresome, inane, uninspiring, uninteresting, tedious, vacant, vacuous, unpalatable, sickening and embarrassing person “evah” to be Speaker of the House.
I wonder what would happen if someone accidentally spilled water on this wicked witch of the West?
Just asking.
Oopsdaisy on January 6, 2010 at 8:48 PM
She is a heinous and monstrous C-Nut.
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 8:49 PM
He sure is. I’ve never heard him this serious and fired up before.
And how interesting he’s now saying “Sarah Palin” now has a shot in 2012.
Knucklehead on January 6, 2010 at 8:50 PM
They’ll just go work for the Center for American Progress, right? Seriously, though, I do think part of the problem, one of the reasons so much terrible legislation gets passed in Washington, is because the “political class” really is a “class” that you can be a member of for life. Whatever they do for “the people,” they’ll always be in their own protective bubble.
kc8ukw on January 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Hey!
Stay positive and keep fighting this!!!!!
We are the front lines . . .
phillypolitics on January 6, 2010 at 8:52 PM
That gave me pause at first, and then I rejoiced as BO & DM seriously analyzed her chances in 2012.
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Oh yeah! Bring it on!!!!
Blacksmith8 on January 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM
mr. mom?
bernzright777 on January 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM
If it passes, why would that be “over”?
Chris_Balsz on January 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Obama let Pelosi write all these Bills that he has signed and now he is feeling the wrath. So are the other democrats. What’s the bet that the House and Senate hate that witch? Her and Obama have destroyed the Democrat party. Good is all I can say – we are here, we ain’t leaving and we are going to put a fork in them – they are done.
suzyk on January 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Geeeesh Eeyorepundit.
I’m not giving up yet!
laurakbarr on January 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Even if the Congress is career-suicidal enough to pass this insanity, with all the legal challenges from the individual state governments waiting in the wings, this thing will take a very long time to be enacted.
Meanwhile, the dimwits who were stupid enough to vote this thing in will be very shortly feeling the wrath of the voters they betrayed.
And come November, it is going to come down on their heads like a proverbial ton of bricks.
pilamaye on January 6, 2010 at 8:58 PM
You can’t challenge anything until it’s signed. Then – the constitutional challenges begin. Time to roll back alot of this crap in this Country.
suzyk on January 6, 2010 at 8:58 PM
Get rid of the Unions.
suzyk on January 6, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Is the seventh seal when pigs fly?
Blacksmith8 on January 6, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Brown (R) is within 5 points of Coakley (D) in the Mass Senate race. Square this with Teddy fever which runs rampant in the bluest of blue states and you may start to feel a thrill run up your…….leg.
Alden Pyle on January 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM
The worm has turned on the DEMS. They will pass it or they’ll drag Nancy Pelosi away in a straight jacket. Harry Reid KNOWS the writing is on the wall for him. There’s no way out. He will not be reelected no matter how this thing turns out. He’s gone too far and said too much.
I think about Evan Bayh, my senator, and I think about John Kerry’s “I voted for it before I voted against it.” The ONLY way Bayh can stay in office in Indiana is to vote against it and then it’s going to be extremely difficult. Indiana IS a conservative state that, unfortunately, got caught up in Obama-mania thanks to all the students at our many college campuses.
Hopefully the GOP can take back both houses in 2010 and stop this thing in its tracks. Put in some REAL reform and start out on the right track. I’d be more seriously worried if the benefits started immediately, but they don’t. Folks will wake up very soon and realize they’ve been screwed from top to bottom and it will be possible to turn it around.
I can hardly wait for election day 2010.
Oink on January 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM
How things are going to be paid with…Obama and Congress under the radar, or in the dark, again. This merits a thread to itself. Spread the word. Was not released to the people.
Schadenfreude on January 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Yes, and conservatives have a few good ideas that are market-based (e.i., the kind that work), but we and the rst of the nation are being force-fed a crap sandwich, which by the way, has nothing to do with helping those people – you can’t do that by crippling the system you have. This is an exercise in seizing power for the left.
drunyan8315 on January 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM
They will respond to pain.
daesleeper on January 6, 2010 at 9:03 PM
Help me out. Once reconciliation is completed is a cloture vote still needed before the final vote?
Goody2Shoes on January 6, 2010 at 9:04 PM
They will have the votes. Remember this is for The Won. He’s the only Won that matters now. Whoever is pushing him to do this is crazy. They are also bribing those 190 congressrats with money or maybe telling them not to run. There is more behind this then healthcare right now. I think someone out there wants people to know Zero is in charge and not Botox and Scary.
Brat4life on January 6, 2010 at 9:04 PM
As I listened to “Don’t Fear The Reaper” for some reason I kept thinking of Randall Flagg.
Blaise on January 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM
Newt is on Hannity hammering Obama about his pledge to put it on C-Span. Also calling Nancy contemptible. Now I know we all have problems with Newt but any little voice helps.
bluemarlin on January 6, 2010 at 9:08 PM
There is a problem with the “retirements.” – These are people who everyone is certain would lose in November. So the Dems get to run someone with a clean slate – who can say all the right things that voters who are loath to vote for a conservative could use for an excuse to vote for the “new – more moderate” Dem. They get elected, and become another Ben Nelson.
Something to be aware of – and to be ready for – for those who live in the States of those “retiring.”
Oopsdaisy on January 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM
We need our Republican Senators and Congressman standing outside telling the people that this needs to go on C-Span. They will get the coverage right now because of the lies and spin that are coming out of the WH.
Brat4life on January 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM
Obama thinks we are peasants. He is wrong.
drunyan8315 on January 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM
I smell the queen Pelosi – fear it
Colorado Anne on January 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM
Pessimistic blogger strikes again.
Americannodash on January 6, 2010 at 9:16 PM
FIFM
Colorado Anne on January 6, 2010 at 9:18 PM
Please shut up.
Americannodash on January 6, 2010 at 9:21 PM
What we are close to and where we are going.
http://www.sdfamily.org/Kitty+Wetrthmann
Kitty starts about 4-5 min in.
AZ_Redneck on January 6, 2010 at 9:22 PM
This is your intrepid reporter, turfmann, reporting to you from Cape Cod where I have just completed two hours of calling from Scott Brown’s campaign office not two miles from the Kennedy Compound..
People are JUMPING THRU THE PHONES with excitement for Brown. I’ve never seen anything like it. People are pumped up about this race. One of the question we ask is what the most important issue is – health care is the overwhelming answer. We seem to get it that he’ll be #41.
Keep the prayers and $$$ coming!
turfmann on January 6, 2010 at 9:22 PM
I thought Glenn Beck did a great impression of Nanzi on today’s show…
d1carter on January 6, 2010 at 9:23 PM
I have a right to be here just like you. If you don’t like something then skip over it.
Brat4life on January 6, 2010 at 9:23 PM
Wonderful news. Please send Scott some money.
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM
Change it, Botox, go ahead. Change one sentence of it to fit what your House minions want.
Then it has to go back to the Senate for cloture again, and the whole Christmas eve nightmare is front and center in the faces of the American people.
And they will punish you and your party in November so badly that it will feel as if you’ve been spanked by a BDSM dom with years of experience.
Not that I’d know anything about that….heh.
Intrepid on January 6, 2010 at 9:25 PM
Wtg turfman!
GnuBreed on January 6, 2010 at 9:26 PM
Can’t send $$ now, but the prayers are with Scott Brown and his senate bid, and for Massachusetts folks who need a decent senator on their side, instead of a jabba-the-hut only out for himself scion of Joe Kennedy. Or Lurch.
Intrepid on January 6, 2010 at 9:28 PM
I just threw up in my mouth after you put that visual forward, yuck!
bluemarlin on January 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM
It’s not entirely over.
It’s become clear that our elected servants no longer represent the will of the people, or have any desire to do so.
We still have the 2nd Amendment, and discussions should begin about putting it to its intended use.
jjrakman on January 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM
Prayers are better than money. Keep ‘em ascending.
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM
WTF? It’s a good idea. From what I understand, Drudge had clips of eight promises from Obama on the campaign trail. And even our lousy press threw a few pitches at Gibbs.
BuckeyeSam on January 6, 2010 at 9:31 PM
Turfmann, any word on how the online donation $$ are going for Brown?
farright on January 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM
It looks as if Owahma is going to want to be able to TAX high end health plans…where have I heard that?
royzer on January 6, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Let’s everyone send this video to the botox queen and then send some cash to Scott Brown
GOD, these traitors in congress make me want to take up drinking!
lukespapa on January 6, 2010 at 9:35 PM
Keep the prayers and money coming.
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 9:36 PM
No shjt.
Americannodash on January 6, 2010 at 9:36 PM
Good work, son. Please keep linking in all the threads. God’s Blessings!
OmahaConservative on January 6, 2010 at 9:39 PM
Sigh.
The only thing I think can give me some hope; it is possible, just possible, that a real tsunami bringing in Repubs could give them the ability to repeal this terrible law.
I know, but I’m a dreamer.
Aquateen Hungerforce on January 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM
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