Great news: CIA watching the ice melt

posted at 10:12 am on January 5, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

In the wake of the attempted al-Qaeda attack on Christmas Day and the intelligence failures that allowed the EunuchBomber to board the plane, people have asked what our intelligence agencies have been doing to protect the US from terrorism.  The New York Times provides an answer … of sorts:

The nation’s top scientists and spies are collaborating on an effort to use the federal government’s intelligence assets — including spy satellites and other classified sensors — to assess the hidden complexities of environmental change. They seek insights from natural phenomena like clouds and glaciers, deserts and tropical forests.

The collaboration restarts an effort the Bush administration shut down and has the strong backing of the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. In the last year, as part of the effort, the collaborators have scrutinized images of Arctic sea ice from reconnaissance satellites in an effort to distinguish things like summer melts from climate trends, and they have had images of the ice pack declassified to speed the scientific analysis. …

The monitoring program has little or no impact on regular intelligence gathering, federal officials said, but instead releases secret information already collected or takes advantage of opportunities to record environmental data when classified sensors are otherwise idle or passing over wilderness.

Secrecy cloaks the monitoring effort, as well as the nation’s intelligence work, because the United States wants to keep foes and potential enemies in the dark about the abilities of its spy satellites and other sensors. The images that the scientific group has had declassified, for instance, have had their sharpness reduced to hide the abilities of the reconnaissance satellites.

Controversy has often dogged the use of federal intelligence gear for environmental monitoring. In October, days after the C.I.A. opened a small unit to assess the security implications of climate change, Senator John Barrasso, Republican of Wyoming, said the agency should be fighting terrorists, “not spying on sea lions.”

Now, with the intelligence world under fire after the attempted airliner bombing on Christmas Day, and with the monitoring program becoming more widely known, such criticism seems likely to grow.

Gee, you think?

The CIA has a specific mission, which is to gather intelligence to enhance American national security and to conduct covert operations against our enemies.  Right now, we are at war in Afghanistan and attempting to defeat a resilient network of terrorists in Pakistan and Yemen.  The latter network came within a reliable detonator of killing hundreds of people and wreaking havoc on our transportation system  — again.

The CIA and the State Department managed to fumble the data that would have prevented the bomber from getting on the plane.  Eight years after 9/11 and four years after a massive reorganization of the intelligence community, we are no better at connecting dots to stop an AQ attack, and no better at communication of critical information.  Maybe — just maybe — the CIA and its political-hack director should be more focused on its mission than on watching ice melt, or freeze, depending on the time of year.

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This is disturbing.

becki51758 on January 5, 2010 at 10:14 AM

We are fcuking doomed.

OmahaConservative on January 5, 2010 at 10:14 AM

I’m telling you, ya have to keep an eye on the terrorist sea lions. Didn’t you guys see “Day of the Dolphin”?

vcferlita on January 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM

The only WH (liberals, redundant I know) approved spying activities for CIA.

Sir Napsalot on January 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Facepalm with sh!t in hand.

singlemalt_18 on January 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM

This makes me livid.

petefrt on January 5, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Unfortunately, this is all too believable.

catmman on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

This will create some great footage for Deadliest Catch this upcoming season.

WashJeff on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Perhaps they can combine the wars with global warming, and study the effects of coalition Humvees’ CO2 output on the Arctic ice sheets…

JetBoy on January 5, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Facepalm with sh!t in hand.

singlemalt_18 on January 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Now it is on your forehead.

WashJeff on January 5, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Let’s see,

chance of all of us getting killed by melting ice ===> A certainty, 100%

chance that all of us getting killed by a bomb or two ===> close to nil

/there, there is your ‘logic’

Sir Napsalot on January 5, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Well, this can’t be as bad as letting a double secret probation turned enemy agent carrying a bomb into your heavily fortified compound without searching him, while all of your senior people are present in the same room awaiting his debrief……..Oh wait, never mind.

Johnnyreb on January 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Mother of God.

How? How can we get throw this administration out now?

rollthedice on January 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Yea, no wonder I decided not to send my resume to Langley recently.

I won’t even consider working there until things change.

blatantblue on January 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

A clue for the Obama voters.

http://www.accuweather.com/

Coldest in 25 years.

Now that I’ve saved our government millions in resources, can we get our people back, reading the reports our betters in Britain have been sending over, about who’s been naughty and who’s been nice?

MNHawk on January 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

The CIA can monitor polar bears, but not grizzlies. That would be discrimination.

LibTired on January 5, 2010 at 10:20 AM

OK, I’m tired of being in Wonderland. Where’s that rabbit hole in order to get back to reality?

rbj on January 5, 2010 at 10:20 AM

Maybe — just maybe — the CIA and its political-hack director should be more focused on its mission than on watching ice melt, or freeze, depending on the time of year.

Is this section near the one that observes and quantifies the time needed for paint to dry or grass to grow? If so, let me know….

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM

18. All warfare is based on deception.

20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder,
and crush him.

just sayin….Art of War.

Dr Evil on January 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Climate Intelligence Agency?

WashJeff on January 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM

The images that the scientific group has had declassified, for instance, have had their sharpness reduced to hide the abilities of the reconnaissance satellites.

Now, let’s assume the CIA is ordered to make further changes or enhancements to these images, say, to show more melting, there would be no way to legally challenge the declassified images due to natinal security concerns.

TXUS on January 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Secrecy cloaks the monitoring effort…

Just like ClimateGate. Got any emails we can look at?

……

Every dollar this administration spends, whether it’s said to be for jobs or economic stimulus or health care, builds the leftist infrastructure. Corrupt to the core.

petefrt on January 5, 2010 at 10:26 AM

slightly OT but appropos for ice melting:
Isn’t Obama meeting with like 20 security “chiefs” today at the WH? I guess it’ll be a “let me be clear” speech that ends with “talk amongst yourselves and get back with me after my 3 hour workout”…..probably about as productive as —-watching ice melt…

*whew* feelin’ awful safe roun’ heah!

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM

OT: C-SPAN wants in on the health care bill senate\house meetigs. Brian Lamb is going to be in big big trouble.

WashJeff on January 5, 2010 at 10:28 AM

The collaboration restarts an effort the Bush administration shut down and has the strong backing of the director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Director – Say it for crissakes, Leon Panetta. Does this not sound like pretending we are not at war?

The monitoring program has little or no impact on regular intelligence gathering, federal officials said,

Well I guess we can take that to the bank. We have gone from the sublime to the absurd.

singlemalt_18 on January 5, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Obama and his merry band of fools will get us all killed.

rplat on January 5, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Well I guess we can take that to the bank. We have gone from the sublime to the absurd.

singlemalt_18 on January 5, 2010 at 10:28 AM

truth.

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 10:29 AM

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM

He’ll be giving us a report on this meeting at 4…preempting Cavuto!

becki51758 on January 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Now, let’s assume the CIA is ordered to make further changes or enhancements to these images, say, to show more melting, there would be no way to legally challenge the declassified images due to natinal security concerns.

TXUS on January 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Good point, now they can doctor the photo’s to show the predetermined outcomes the global warming alarmists want.

fourdeucer on January 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Yea, no wonder I decided not to send my resume to Langley recently.I won’t even consider working there until things change.blatantblue on January 5, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Too bad, but looking on the bright side, you won’t be taking up a slot that can now be filled with a transgender, Mao worshiping, affirmative action hire.

TXUS on January 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Save the whales muslim male!

Don’t club baby seals Obama’s kindred!

SouthernGent on January 5, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Put the poley bears on house arrest with ankle bracelets.
White bears are not politically correct to begin with. They are to blame for black bear and brown bear problems.

seven on January 5, 2010 at 10:33 AM

OT Drudge headline: C-SPAN DARE TO DEMS: OPEN HEALTH TALKS!

OmahaConservative on January 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM

OMFG. It’s amazing there’s anything left that could still provide a shock.

On the other hand this was funny:

This will create some great footage for Deadliest Catch this upcoming season.

WashJeff

on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Western_Civ on January 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM

Imagine being the poor bastard who worked hard his whole life, played by the rules and finally realizes his dream of getting into the CIA only to be assigned to monitor cloud formations.

This is the perfect analogy for the Yobama mind set, next he’ll have Navy SEALs reassigned from front line ops to monitor the nesting grounds of migrating terns in order to determine if some are actually gay.

Alden Pyle on January 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM

Good point, now they can doctor the photo’s to show the predetermined outcomes the global warming alarmists want.

fourdeucer on January 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM

They don’t need the CIA for that they have the EPA.

thomasaur on January 5, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Next up, Panetta replaced by James Hansen as CIA director, with Gavin Schmidt as his Deputy in charge of Information.

Wind Rider on January 5, 2010 at 10:35 AM

The most difficult task that we have in the USA is to stop the socialist/communist from getting complete control of this country.

Johan Klaus on January 5, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Remember when the US Navy would say that they were “counting whales” in the Barents Sea? The ObamiNation took that too literally.

steveegg on January 5, 2010 at 10:37 AM

It is so comforting to know that at least the ice is safe.

PatriotRider on January 5, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Facepalm with sh!t in hand.

singlemalt_18 on January 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Hot Air is brought to you by Facepalmolive.

steveegg on January 5, 2010 at 10:39 AM

From Jake Tapper today, regarding Obama’s “reforms”:

An example: in 2002 a Nigerian traveling to Yemen might not have meant much to the intelligence community. But now with a considerable al Qaeda presence in West Africa and Yemen, such an event means a lot. The intelligence community’s ability to change its assumptions needs to be more supple, the president believes.

How can we have 100 guys from Yemen in Gitmo, and just now realize people who’ve been spending time in Yemen might be a problem?

Did they even look at Muhammed and Hasan’s connections there after they killed service members on our soil?

MayBee on January 5, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Hey dipshi.s try pointin your spyin stuff at the sun and monitor sunspots! A far more effective warmer than ANYTHING here on earth.

And as far as the ones pointed toward earth zero in on my backyard and notice the 25″ of snow on the ground in Iowa, the 21 BELOW zero reading on my temperature guage and the fact that we will get 3-6 more inches of snow and not get above 0 the next two days!

While your at it notice the hemp I’ve got growin in the fence row its no good for smokin but makes a nice hangmans noose for the #$%@#@&,^*(&%#@,#%^#$s(*^ DIPSHI.S like you and your Democrat enablers!

dhunter on January 5, 2010 at 10:40 AM

Please tell me this is satire.

mwbri on January 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM

Just in case Panetta is interested, here in the midwest it is scrotum shrinking, sphincter puckering cold. Tell that to the CIA.

fourdeucer on January 5, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Hmmmmmmmm … I wonder if the CIA can recruit any icebergs.

darwin on January 5, 2010 at 10:49 AM

It was 15 degree in NW Mississippi at 6 a.m. today. Come strutinize that, Leon. You putz. I guess polar bears are more important that Americans to this Administration.

kingsjester on January 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Senator John Barrasso, Republican of Wyoming, said the agency should be fighting terrorists, “not spying on sea lions.”

Sometimes just a few words tell the story…

right2bright on January 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM

This probably got started about the time they started using our military as a “meals-on-wheels” program.

AubieJon on January 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM

yikes!


fear the glaciers!

cmsinaz on January 5, 2010 at 10:51 AM

CIA watching the ice melt

This is an isolated incident…

right2bright on January 5, 2010 at 10:52 AM

But Pelosi says they are liars from the beginning.
She also says natural gas is not a fossil fuel.

seven on January 5, 2010 at 10:52 AM

The collaboration restarts an effort the Bush administration shut down

So Clinton wanted to monitor sea lions while the USS Cole was attacked? while troops in Somalia were under fire? while we had troops in Chechnya? etc etc

And Cheney and Bush didn’t point this out for a year after 9/11 and say that they inherited 9/11 because of the **** polar ice? Wasted opportunity to shut down the liberals and GW.

I think every family member (troops or civilians) who lost their loved ones while they did this should sue the GW folks for even asking the CIA to do this.

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 5, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Anybody else feel like there’s been no one at the helm since last January?

hogfat on January 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Bush=common sense
Dear leader= no sense

cmsinaz on January 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Just in case Panetta is interested, here in the midwest it is scrotum shrinking, sphincter puckering cold. Tell that to the CIA.

fourdeucer on January 5, 2010 at 10:44 AM

It was -10 at 8:18 AM in Omaha this morning. No ice was melting.

OmahaConservative on January 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM

It was 15 degree in NW Mississippi at 6 a.m. today. Come strutinize that, Leon. You putz. I guess polar bears are more important that Americans to this Administration.

kingsjester on January 5, 2010 at 10:50 AM

That’s impossible. The climate models all say you’re hot and in a drought with six CAT VIII hurricanes headed your way. Plus, the heat and drought have driven the deer mad and are attacking people.

darwin on January 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Great news: CIA watching the ice melt

Not in Nebraska.

PappaMac on January 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Hey!!! What’s all this talk about the CIA wasting their efforts watching the ice melt? This is important stuff! What happens if the polar ice cap begins to break up due to global warming and and giant icebergs clog the major sea lanes? Hundreds of cruise ships striking icebergs would cause massive casualties that would make 9/11 look like a picnic. President Obama has recognized that it is terrorists who have initiated global warming with just that goal in mind. If it means that our intelligence agencies have to scale back gathering intelligence on the movement of suicide bombers to keep an eye on melting ice then so be it.

sdd on January 5, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Oh, please, great gods below, let this be a feel-good cover for surveillance of Arctic Russian installations or somesuch.

Failing that, these people need serious adult supervision!

Noocyte on January 5, 2010 at 10:56 AM

The most difficult task that we have in the USA is to stop the socialist/communist from getting complete control of this country.

Johan Klaus on January 5, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Too late. Obama already sold us to the ChiComs.

Phil-351 on January 5, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Of course they have to keep all that satellite ice data secret with the CIA. Obama wouldn’t want Al Gore & Co. to find out there’s more ice and polar bears this year than last year!

Steve Z on January 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Just in case Panetta is interested, here in the midwest it is scrotum shrinking, sphincter puckering cold. Tell that to the CIA.

fourdeucer on January 5, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Seems like Abdulmatullab found a way to warm his scrotum. The CIA might be interested in guys like him!

Steve Z on January 5, 2010 at 10:59 AM

This is just another case in a long string of failed Dem beliefs, policies, and practices. The list is getting longer and, God forbid there’s a successful attack on US soil, the Dems are going to have a lot to answer for.

Liam on January 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Another day, another article of impeachment.

Buddahpundit on January 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM

This is in response to the sinking of the Titanic, that ice is very dangerous….better keep an eye on it.

tommer74 on January 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM

So how long until the Govt starts claiming that global warming is real but the evidence is classified?

I’m not opposed to using all available data to study a problem, but it’d be nice if they did some halfway decent QA and sanity checking on the stuff that’s publicly available first.

And what we know right now is that some of these climate scientists ought to be waterboarded.

JEM on January 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM

It was -10 at 8:18 AM in Omaha this morning. No ice was melting.

OmahaConservative on January 5, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Let me know when the polar bears start showing up. I love to hunt them but don’t like going all the way to Alaska to do so.

TXUS on January 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM

where is jon stewart on this? 2010 is going to survive on comic relief only….

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

O/T You should hear ABC radio news talk about the security revue the president is getting. Lots of macho, strong words being used. Funny.

Cindy Munford on January 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

does ice melt in utopia?

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

well, if it

has little or no impact on regular intelligence gathering, federal officials said,

I don’t see the harm. I think I’d rather get my melting ice info from CIA satellites rather than from all these other disputable findings. Seeing as how we’re going to be using them regardless.

I find it interesting that, once again, the NYT reveals a little more than it should:

Secrecy cloaks the monitoring effort, as well as the nation’s intelligence work, because the United States wants to keep foes and potential enemies in the dark about the abilities of its spy satellites and other sensors. The images that the scientific group has had declassified, for instance, have had their sharpness reduced to hide the abilities of the reconnaissance satellites.

Guess some of that isn’t so secret any more.

scalleywag on January 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Well, this makes perfect sense. Because nothing says open, peer-reviewed science quite like classified and carefully filtered observations by CIA spy satellites.

/sarc

tom on January 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Controversy has often dogged the use of federal intelligence gear for environmental monitoring. In October, days after the C.I.A. opened a small unit to assess the security implications of climate change, Senator John Barrasso, Republican of Wyoming, said the agency should be fighting terrorists, “not spying on sea lions.”

Federal Intelligence = Oxymoron!

dhunter on January 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM

It’s not that democrats don’t know anything, it is that what they know is so wrong.

jukin on January 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Sometimes I come to HotAir to learn, sometimes to vent, and sometimes just to get a good chuckle. This would qualify as the chuckle one. Watch these three consecutive comments as we descend from outrage (pete) to wry observation (catmman) to pure snark (WashJeff).

This makes me livid.

petefrt on January 5, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Unfortunately, this is all too believable.

catmman on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

This will create some great footage for Deadliest Catch this upcoming season.

WashJeff on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 AM

It’s nearly impossible to regard this administration as anything other than a bunch of clowns.

Jaibones on January 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Did the CIA get a court order before it started spying on Sea Lions?

MarkTheGreat on January 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Waste of intelligence resources? Nah. The last thing our fragile economy needs is an iceberg crashing into New York City.

/roll eyes

BigAlSouth on January 5, 2010 at 11:12 AM

The CIA can monitor polar bears, but not grizzlies. That would be discrimination.

LibTired on January 5, 2010 at 10:20 AM

It would be profiling.

MarkTheGreat on January 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Providing ‘Intelligence’ to Obama is a wasted effort. So, why not use the intelligence gathering equipment and people for other purposes.

In the 60′s my Platoon Sgt., when he saw me standing around, told me “The taxpayers pay for you to spend their money properly, so, do something. Right or wrong, do something”.

Sounds like the CIA is being run by my Plt. Sgt..

Helloyawl on January 5, 2010 at 11:15 AM

I feel so much safer now. Pardon me, while I go plow more globull warming off the driveway.

Kissmygrits on January 5, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Gotta protect ourselves from that global warming menace. I had to scrape some of it off my windshield just this morning.

Daggett on January 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM

does ice melt in utopia?

ted c on January 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Only in your scotch.

MarkTheGreat on January 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM

He’ll be giving us a report on this meeting at 4…preempting Cavuto!

becki51758 on January 5, 2010 at 10:32 AM

News, by its very nature reports on abnormal events.

That Obama meeting with his security team, while we are Occupying two countries, and bombing at least two others… is NEWS?

Should not the Commander in Chief, during time of War, be meeting with his Security Team DAILY?

/shakes head and wanders off… muttering…

Romeo13 on January 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM

The only Seals they should be checking on are NAVY SEALS.

and NOT makeing the pictures available to the prosecution.

Free the 3 NAVY SEALS!

barnone on January 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM

And the Dems are bitching about low poll numbers! They are only low because the TRUTH is slowly comming to light as to all the sh/t the Owahma admin is up to. Man I can’t believe whats going on in the US.

royzer on January 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Well there’s your security problem. The CIA is too busy counting icebergs to be worried about foreign threats to our country.

GarandFan on January 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM

In one of Tom Clancy’s techno-thrillers, our nuclear missile sub fleet had been relegated to tracking whale migrations. This is worse.

Socratease on January 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM

The CIA report on the Coming Ice Age from 1974 is here

http://www.climatemonitor.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/1974.pdf

tmitsss on January 5, 2010 at 11:27 AM

They detected terrorist cell of snowmen recruited by Al Qaeda.

Daggett on January 5, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Maybe CAIR will make a statement to include sea lions.

meMC on January 5, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Maybe the cameras can peer into the ObamaCare “conference”

Brian Lamb of C-SPAN has asked the Democrats for permission to televise the “conference”
Obama did promise that health care negotiations would be on C-SPAN

J_Crater on January 5, 2010 at 11:30 AM

It’s conceivable that melting ice is a threat to our nation. To what extent, who knows? Scientists are still arguing the facts. Seeing actual satellite pictures of the ice gives us a better understanding of how big a threat it is. Why not share this info with scientists? I just don’t see how this is bad if we’re up there taking pictures anyway. The breaches we’ve had in security lately wouldn’t have had anything to do with satellite pictures, would they? The latest incident is is more like a breach of intelligence sharing. IMHO.

scalleywag on January 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM

re: J_Crater on January 5, 2010 at 11:30 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/05/c-span-challenges-congress-open-health-care-talks-tv-coverage/

hahahahah, I just saw that. Hypocrites.

scalleywag on January 5, 2010 at 11:36 AM

The ObaMao equivalent of sending dissidents to slave camps in Siberia?

onlineanalyst on January 5, 2010 at 11:36 AM

“Secrecy cloaks the monitoring effort, as well as the nation’s intelligence work, because the United States wants to keep foes and potential enemies in the dark about the abilities of its spy satellites and other sensors.”

Or,….when the polar ice-caps don’t melt the publically funded data documenting AGW as an absolute farce can be held back under the “National Security” umbrella! I know, I know, I’m wandering into the realms of the tin-foil-hat brigade. But seriously, with the ad nauseum examples of duplicity exibited by the Obama Progressives, can anyone blame me for doing so?

Archimedes on January 5, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Pitch forks.

Torches.

Tar.

Feathers.

Miles of rope for hanging!

Any questions?

gary4205 on January 5, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Put the poley bears on house arrest with ankle bracelets.
White bears are not politically correct to begin with. They are to blame for black bear and brown bear problems.

seven on January 5, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Google Churchill, Manitoba and check out the polar bear jail.

35 this am in Ft. Lauderdale,Fl.

katy the mean old lady on January 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Related: Poland will be getting their missile defense system after all. Unfortunately it will modified to shoot down harmful CO2.

shick on January 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

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