New TSA security measures target 13 Muslim countries — plus Cuba

posted at 7:25 pm on January 3, 2010 by Allahpundit

They can’t profile based on religion directly so they’re going to do it by proxy, with the circle of “countries of interest” kept as small as possible to minimize the political heat. Nigeria and Lebanon are actually both religiously diverse, but needless to say, it ain’t the threat of Christian bomb plots that landed them on the list.

A senior official identifies the relevant” countries of interest”: Afghanistan, Algeria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, or Yemen, or one of the following countries designated as a state sponsor of terrorism: Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and Syria.

Given Chavez’s ties to Iran, does anyone seriously think terrorists are more likely to connect out of Havana than Caracas? More from Politico:

All travelers flying into the U.S. from foreign countries will receive tightened random screening, and 100 percent of passengers from 14 terrorism-prone countries will be patted down and have their carry-ons searched, the Obama administration was notifying airlines on Sunday…

“These are changes that weren’t widely in place for all carriers or countries on 12/24,” a senior administration official told POLITICO. “These are sustainable measures that are a significant enhancement of our security posture. TSA will continuously review these measures with our global aviation partners to ensure the highest levels of security.”…

A much higher percentage of all travelers from all foreign countries will receive such screening than is currently the case, the official said. “The screening “could also include explosive detection technology or advanced imaging technology where it’s available,” the official said…

The measures apply to all “passengers with passports from or itineraries through State Sponsors of Terrorism and ‘countries of interest.’”

That would have stopped Abdulmutallab had he been asked to produce a Nigerian passport, which, er, he wasn’t. Exit question: What’s AQ’s next move now? Confronting the new security screening head-on via bombs that are fully concealed inside the body? Or a new emphasis on recruiting among western jihadis with passports from, oh, say, Britain? If it’s the latter, they’d better move fast: The Brits are rolling out whole-body image scanners at Heathrow as we speak.


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They should declare CAIR an organization of interest while they’re at it.

Akzed on January 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM

I wasn’t aware there were flights from Cuba directly to the US. I know there are carriers like Air Jamaica that fly to and from Cuba and then on to the States, but isn’t there still an embargo on direct flights?

Del Dolemonte on January 3, 2010 at 7:31 PM

They can’t profile based on religion directly so they’re going to do it by proxy, with the circle of “countries of interest” kept as small as possible to minimize the political heat.

I’m at a loss to understand why “they” cannot profile based on religion. Here’s a list of the profile of all known terrorist attacks in recent years-

Profile # 1: Young Muslim male who has been radicalized into believing in homocide killings.

That’s it. Until the elderly Lutheran grandma starts killing people, let’s stick with excluding profile #1 from getting on planes without full body cavity searches.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Somewhere, somehow, some jihadi will find a loophole and leap through it.

rickyricardo on January 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I thought Obama delivered a speech to the Muslims earlier this year and the “healing” had begun. So we shouldn’t be seeing any Islamic extremist terror attacks against the U.S. anymore, right?

jediwebdude on January 3, 2010 at 7:33 PM

They should declare CAIR an organization of interest while they’re at it.

Akzed on January 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM

CAIR is as much a terrorist organization as the PLA. They don’t officially condone the homocide bombers but they go out of their way to defend them. Hassan and the UndieBomber will be getting legal assistance from CAIR despite the fact the organization has condemned their actions. This is true time and time again.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Frankly, I can’t believe these “measures” weren’t already in place….say, since..2002.

Bunch of morons. I do not feel safe. I do not feel any safer.

bridgetown on January 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Well, it is a step in the right direction. At least they acknowledge something has to be done about this. But seriously, do we spend the rest of history reacting to the creativity of psychopaths who don’t mind killing themselves and want to kill us? This is getting depressing.

Scranton on January 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Two points:

(1) What about North Korea?

(2) I’m surprised the USA isn’t on the list since we are one of the largest Muslim countries in the world according to The Unprecedented in his swoon-worthty Cairo speech.

ya2daup on January 3, 2010 at 7:35 PM

The Brits are rolling out whole-body image scanners at Heathrow as we speak.

Wonder when the first lawsuit comes where a pregnant patient went through and later had a poor outcome, miscarriage or birth defect. Don’t think it will happen? Google Bendectin, a morning sickness pill that contained sugar (glucose), benadryl, and vitamin B-6 and was so effective, and harmless, it had to stop being made after the manufacturer had too many lawsuits against it.

Marcus on January 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Furthermore, the man who tried to bomb the plane on Christmas day should be at the end of his waterboarding sessions right about now. Not playing games with lawyers.

bridgetown on January 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

And the lamestream media will scream profiling in 5…4…3…2… oh wait I forgot, Democrat did it, never mind.

It would seem like BamBam’s worldwide apology and bash America tour has had no effect. Imagine that.

tarpon on January 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Day late… dollar short…

Khun Joe on January 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

All that’s lacking is full body cavity searches of any potential terrorist claiming to be a US Senator while refusing to follow crew instructions.

Drained Brain on January 3, 2010 at 7:37 PM

What’s AQ’s next move now?

forged or stolen passports

trubble on January 3, 2010 at 7:38 PM

heh

/allahpundit

blatantblue on January 3, 2010 at 7:38 PM

One final thought. It’s interesting that the administration only cares about this after a massive failure and an idiot DHS Seceretary that has the audacity to proclaim that there wasn’t a problem. This smacks of meaningless knee jerk reactions after the fact from an administration who doesn’t even believe there is such a thing as a war on terror. They’ve allowed the UndieBomber to lawyer up instead of seeking out intelligence, they were the first to deny that the Ft. Hood shooter had a link to radical Islam. The adminstration simply cannot be trusted on this issue and these new measures are meaningless from a President who was more concerned with golf than dealing with his damned job.

It’s three AM and your president is too tired from a day on the links to care about how many Americans were blown up over Detroit or killed by an Army Officer who has sworn allegience to Allah.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:39 PM

I can imagine him laughing about this like in that picture.

“The whole world bought my Hope-n-Change act. HA! HA! HA! HA!”

ThePrez on January 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM

I still can’t believe we’ve gone all this time without a suicide bomber taking out dozens of people at a mall or sporting event. One guy could have killed a few hundred in Times Square a few nights ago. Seems like it would be easier than getting through airport security.

Mark1971 on January 3, 2010 at 7:42 PM

I’m at a loss to understand why “they” cannot profile based on religion. Here’s a list of the profile of all known terrorist attacks in recent years-

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Passports normally don’t indicate the faith the of the holder. That’s one reason why they don’t profile that way.

I just returned to the US via the UK and the screening is way up and includes a pretty thorough second check at the gate before boarding.

To tell the truth I am fine with the Lutheran Grandma getting checked like everyone else. They will try anything and will try conning anyone into trying to get them to carry something dangerous on a flight. Especially if we target young Muslim men with extra attention. It is obvious that authorities are expecting more attempts.

lexhamfox on January 3, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Marcus on January 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Apparently the full body scanners used in this country, anyway, use radio waves- no radiation involved. Not that it will stop lawsuits. They happen no matter what. Treat young Muslim males the way they should be treated and you get lawsuits from CAIR and the ACLU.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Anyone think that the One will have more luck getting them to unfurl their underwear than to unclench their fists?

And are the hapless hundreds on an aircraft cabin still going to be confined to their seats, encumbered by nothing more than the shirts on their backs, for the last hour of the trip? Because it’s not like one of those explosive devices couldn’t be detonated midway over the ocean, is it?

Blackacre on January 3, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Why tell this to the terrorists. They’ll just claim a different identity.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2010 at 7:46 PM

AQ will just recruit from countries not on the list – France, Britain, even the US.

mph on January 3, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Here’s a question: if Bakke held that it was okay to use race as “A” factor amongst many when admitting students, why can’t TSA use race or another characteristic like it as a “A” factor in profiling?

ieplaya on January 3, 2010 at 7:49 PM

I’m still understand why we don’t have more snipers

tomas on January 3, 2010 at 7:50 PM

I’m at a loss to understand why “they” cannot profile based on religion. Here’s a list of the profile of all known terrorist attacks in recent years-

Profile # 1: Young Muslim male who has been radicalized into believing in homocide killings.

That’s it. Until the elderly Lutheran grandma starts killing people, let’s stick with excluding profile #1 from getting on planes without full body cavity searches.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Terrorism is not exclusively limited to the Muslim faith (Chechen suicide bombers and FARC come to mind), but how would they find out a person’s religion?

jonknee on January 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Close America’s borders.

Send all non-citizens packing.

nondhimmie on January 3, 2010 at 7:54 PM

To tell the truth I am fine with the Lutheran Grandma getting checked like everyone else. They will try anything and will try conning anyone into trying to get them to carry something dangerous on a flight. Especially if we target young Muslim men with extra attention. It is obvious that authorities are expecting more attempts.

lexhamfox on January 3, 2010 at 7:42 PM

You mean like the Lockerbie Bomber who the Scots just released on behalf of British Petroleum? Part of the plan was to get innocents to carry the bomb onboard.

I’m okay with 100% same screening but that isn’t what happens, in part because people would have to get to the airport hours early. A random number of individuals are pulled out for further scrutiny and it makes no sense whatsoever. It is simply based on who is available for the “wagging finger” between coffee breaks by the semi-literate workers that man the TSA screening booths. To be effective, random screening needs to be based on profiles, not just who is moving too slowly after they put their shoes back on (a stupid requirement in the first place).

Further scrutiny, in no particular order, should be based on:

Country of origin/nationality

Origin/destination of the flight

All the no-fly lists, not just the one that the TSA used on Christmas which was utter crap.

Demographics like young males traveling alone from certain parts of the world or traveling on a one-way ticket.

It is virtually impossible to stop all wannabe terrorists but the reality is that the TSA under this administration isn’t even trying. Nepolitano needs to go and the socialist hack nominated for the job needs to be rebuffed because he has proven to be untrustworthy. We are in serious times and need serious people. F minus for the administration on national security to date and I am being very generous putting them this high on the grading scale.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:56 PM

trubble on January 3, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Exactly. False ID’s and False Passports to avoid the watch and no fly lists plus boarding in less restrictive countries. This will have little if any affect.

chemman on January 3, 2010 at 7:58 PM

A step in the right direction; but why are they making this information public? I think it would be more effective if they don’t publish these guidelines.

tdavisjr on January 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM

A businessman traveling from the Far East or a European country.

A “family,” perhaps a husband and young mother with an infant or two, traveling from South America.

Both cases concealing explosives inside themselves.

Since we have told the bad guys exactly what we are looking for…think they’ll change their MO?

Profiling for terrorists, not bombs. Demeanor. Nervousness. Incomplete cover story. Not acting “natural” to the surroundings.

Works for El Al.

coldwarrior on January 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Its all radiation. Radio waves are low energy compared to the high energy gamma or X-ray.

Probably shouldn’t be so nit picky since I understand what you are trying to say.

chemman on January 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Terrorism is not exclusively limited to the Muslim faith (Chechen suicide bombers and FARC come to mind), but how would they find out a person’s religion?

jonknee on January 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM

So what terrorist who has attacked America doesn’t fit the profile of young Muslim male? American citizen or not. Convert or not. What one thing does the Fort Hood shooter, the Undiebomber, the Fort Smith shooter, and the five terrorist wannabes caught in Af-Pak, and the soldier who threw a grenade into that mess tent have in common? Here’s a clue- it wasn’t their hometown or the name of their prom date.

You are right that you can’t catch them all but focusing on things like guys with Hussein in their name but it would help to start putting such factors into profiles.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM

jonknee on January 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Point taken about FARC but the Chechen suicide bombers were Muslim.

chemman on January 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM

A step in the right direction; but why are they making this information public? I think it would be more effective if they don’t publish these guidelines.

tdavisjr on January 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Not to mention the TSA deciding to put their entire operations manual on the internet with “masking” so elementary that apparently a child could bypass the electronic redactions.

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Both Cuba and Venezuela should be on the list. Both countries harbor terrorists.

cubachi on January 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM

AQ will just recruit from countries not on the list – France, Britain, even the US.

mph on January 3, 2010 at 7:47 PM

They already are.

thomasaur on January 3, 2010 at 8:08 PM

highhopes on January 3, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Well said. It’s a waste of time to scrutinize granny when one should be profiling.

There will always be human error. I just flew home the other day and they let my carry-on on the plane without taking my scissors out of my knitting bag. Somehow it got past the screening. I’m glad I got to keep my scissors, but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence knowing that one can get through security that easily.

atheling on January 3, 2010 at 8:10 PM

The terrorists can hide their identity and records even better than Obama can.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM

How about this area of interest in South America, which has http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/been of interest to national security experts for decades?

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Somewhere, somehow, some jihadi will find a loophole and leap through it.

rickyricardo on January 3, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I didn’t see Mexico on the list…

But that’s OK, our secure border will stop any terrorists from illegally entering the country.

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2010 at 8:18 PM

There will always be human error. I just flew home the other day and they let my carry-on on the plane without taking my scissors out of my knitting bag. Somehow it got past the screening. I’m glad I got to keep my scissors, but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence knowing that one can get through security that easily.

atheling on January 3, 2010 at 8:10 PM

I flew home a couple days after Christmas and my over 3 ounce bottle of contact solution make it through security. To be fair, this rule is idiotic, but I honestly think you could get through the Phoenix airport with a nuke in your carry on as long as it’s under 3 ounces.

And FYI, I also forgot to take the Ziploc with my acceptable liquid sizes out of my carry on. Which also wasn’t caught.

mjk on January 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM

The sunrise of reality

AbaddonsReign on January 3, 2010 at 8:27 PM

I managed to screw up the link re terrorism coming from South America. Let’s try it again: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Close America’s borders.

Send all non-citizens packing.

May I suggest an exception for hot foreign women of all nationalities?

rickyricardo on January 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Exit question: What’s AQ’s next move now? Confronting the new security screening head-on via bombs that are fully concealed inside the body?

If not by Air, and by Land, then perhaps by Sea.

Shipments of liquefied natural gas from Yemen are due to arrive in Boston in February, but security officials are reviewing whether to allow the cargo to enter Boston Harbor waters.

Kini on January 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Indonesia is not on the list. I wonder why?
And what about South Korea , Malaysia, Thailand , Australia and China ?
Is anyone in the State department even tracking the spread of hijaby-jihady cult ? And why are our embassies granting long-term multiple entry tourist visas , to people from third countries anyway( this Nigerian got his US visa issued in Britain )?
Its a sham, a facade, just to get the meanstreak media yakking on Monday, so that the fed-med -dead bill can be rammed through.

macncheez on January 3, 2010 at 8:49 PM

LMAO …NO more Hope and Change!

BigMike252 on January 3, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Still sounds like ‘profiling’ to me. And don’t Democrats believe ‘that profiling is wrong’? Perhaps the local cops should designate “local areas of interest” when they stop people.

Somewhere, George Orwell is laughing.

GarandFan on January 3, 2010 at 9:13 PM

MORE STAGED FALSE FLAG CRAP! YOU CIA OPERATIVES AIN’T FOOLING ME ANYMORE!

I WON’T PLAY YOUR GAMES OF HAVING MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY!

BobAnthony on January 3, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Exit question: What’s AQ’s next move now? Confronting the new security screening head-on via bombs that are fully concealed inside the body?

If not by Air, and by Land, then perhaps by Sea.

Shipments of liquefied natural gas from Yemen are due to arrive in Boston in February, but security officials are reviewing whether to allow the cargo to enter Boston Harbor waters.

Kini on January 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Drill baby, drill.

uknowmorethanme on January 3, 2010 at 9:23 PM

Yet another chapter in the “Can you imagine the outcry if Bush had done this” annals.

Rational Thought on January 3, 2010 at 9:28 PM

The horse is out of the barn, but at least they are actually doing something. I wonder if someone put a bomb in a suppository…would that show up on a body scanner?

Terrye on January 3, 2010 at 9:33 PM

This is a step. An imperfect one, but a step.

I guess my question for the ‘search all the Muslims’ folks would be this: how do you determine someone’s a Muslim?

If ‘Richard Reed’ had bothered to shave no one would have thought he was anything but a somewhat dirty Brit.

JEM on January 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Lets make some swiss cheese:

1. Algerian born-French speaking-Canadian citizen entering US from WA state

2. Ehiopian born-French speaking-French citizen entering US as a Univ of Minnesotta student flying from DeGaulle airport

3. Somalian born-Hindi speaking-without citizenship entering US from Nepal through New Delhi

4. Libyan born- opera singing-Italian citizen entering US from Rome

5. Turkish born-Spanish speaking – Spanish citizen entering US through ElCentro

6. Iraqi born-English speaking-Australian citizen entering US from Sydney

7. Afghanistan born- English speaking -NewZealand citizen entering US from Fiji

8. US born-Spanish+ English speaking- US citizen entering US from Tijuana via Quetta

9. Syrian born-German speaking- German citizen flying into entering US from Cancun

10. Chinese Uighar-Korean speaking-South Korean citizen -flying into US from Narita on student visa

11. Jordanian born-Spanish speaking- Brazilian citizen entering US from Laredo TX

12. Egyptian born- arabic speaking-Egyptian citizen entering US from Celexico

Which one of these will be affected by this new TSA drama?

macncheez on January 3, 2010 at 9:52 PM

3,000 dead changed almost nothing.

Will it take 30,000?

300,000?

3 million?

How many of us will have to be blown to bloody shreds and shovelled down the Maw of the hungry god P.C. before the IDIOTS IN CHARGE wake from their sleep of multiculti madness?

I’m hoping 30,000 will suffice.

profitsbeard on January 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Given Chavez’s ties to Iran, does anyone seriously think terrorists are more likely to connect out of Havana than Caracas?

Nope. Besides, how do they plan on patting down Cubans who can only come here on inner tubes?

Or a new emphasis on recruiting among western jihadis with passports from, oh, say, Britain?

Yep. I give this plan a D+. Unless they add that anyone who has visited any of the aforementioned countries will be subject to heightened security measures the whole thing will be an abject failure.

Why aren’t they tightening the visa process?

Point taken about FARC but the Chechen suicide bombers were Muslim.
chemman on January 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM

True. We can always add Communists to the list! :)

Buy Danish on January 3, 2010 at 10:48 PM

This actually makes sense, though the measure is not sufficient by itself. In fact, the crotch bomber apparently took steps to board without a passport specifically to avoid this countermeasure, not realizing we weren’t even doing that little bit.
But if you required a passport, and if you actually kept the no fly list up to date, and took these measures, it would do some good. Much better than restricting everyone to their seats for the first and last hour of the flight.

The problem with security is that it takes multiple measures to be reasonably safe. It’s not even helpful to talk about “profiling based on religion,” because profiling that is based solely on religion would be useless. But the big stink is that no one wants religion to be part of the profile at all, and that’s just not reasonable. But if you profile based on a) paying cash, b) buying one-way tickets, c) having no luggage, d)coming from or having recently visited a known-hostile nation, e) known terrorist connections, and f) religious profile, then you have a pretty good chance of catching dangerous people.

Instead, all we talk about are the racial or religious part of the profile, and we throw the rest out the window.

This, at least, is the first move TSA has made since the crotch bomber that actually is a reasonable security measure. I would be a little happy, if only the Obama administration were not negotiating with terrorists, and not still trying to release Gitmo detainees, and not planning to have show trials of people who should be given a proper military tribunal, then executed if their guilt is confirmed.

There Goes The Neighborhood on January 3, 2010 at 11:01 PM

Flew into LAX tonight from Asia. The last hour of the flight was an absolute joke.

First, at the start of the hour, everyone was allowed to go to their personal belongings one last time. Just what a terrorist would need to do. LOL

Second, it wasn’t strictly enforced. At least half a dozen people went back into their overhead bin at least 30 minutes after it was imposed or went to the restroom. Just what a terrorist would need to do. LOL

Third, all of the movies and music was discontinued and everyone had to prepare for landing with seatbacks upright, etc. FOR AN HOUR!!!

Fourth, even though the GPS for passengers to see the flight geographically on the video monitor was shut off, the captain and cabin crew announced the preparations for landing, how many minutes we were from LAX, etc. Who needs a GPS???

The whole thing is RIDICULOUS! Thank you, Janet Incompetenato and Barry Soetoro!

Ricohoc on January 3, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Ricohoc on January 3, 2010 at 11:41 PM

It is so insulting that they think they are doing something, anything to calm the “fears” of the traveling public. They do know that we have television, internet and radios that inform of us about the places they keep falling short? It’s like criminals posting their exploits on You Tube while being surprised they got caught.

Cindy Munford on January 3, 2010 at 11:55 PM

If this were a serious effort to increase scrutiny of obvious sources of potential danger, I’d say “Good job, Obama Administration.”

hawkdriver on January 4, 2010 at 12:12 AM

We should CAT scan anyone coming from Saudi Arabia and then waterboard them on the jet, just to make sure.

Tantor on January 4, 2010 at 12:39 AM

If this were a serious effort to increase scrutiny of obvious sources of potential danger, I’d say “Good job, Obama Administration.”

hawkdriver on January 4, 2010 at 12:12 AM

We should CAT scan anyone coming from Saudi Arabia and then waterboard them on the jet, just to make sure.

Tantor on January 4, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Why do US embassies all over the world continue to hand out visas , with no discretion, anyway ?
Even today its easier for young muslim men from Saudi Arabia, Egypt or even Syria to get student visas to USA than it is for families from India who want to visit Disneyland with their kids on summer vacation. Why are our embassies still facilitating these people to board flights and become parasites ?
All this is to get the Monday morning yakfest started, so that the royal idiots don’t feel guilty about the taxpayer funded vacation they just enjoyed

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 1:03 AM

Given that all Muslim terrorists have that dead look in their eyes I’m pretty sure that existing face detection technology could be converted to detect when someone’s eyes look dead enough to be attached to someone about to commit Islamic jihad. This would have the added benefit of keeping Harry Reid in one place.

Sharke on January 4, 2010 at 1:06 AM

Let’s see…barry wanted to release photos of CIA interrogators; barry has made it clear that he wants to prosecute CIA agents who worked under Bush; barry is giving KSM all the rights of a US citizen; barry is allowing the Navy Seals to be persecuted; barry has no comment when flying imams not only don’t get booted out of the country for their antics, but sue and win; barry has no comment when a muslim shoots and kills one and wounds another soldier outside an Alabama recruiting center making it three successful terrorist attacks since he polluted the Office; this is only the very tip of the iceberg but pretty much starts the ball rolling and says to anyone who is involved in US security that they better leave his muslim pals alone, better not do their jobs the right way, or barry will have a prosecution coming their way, too.

As long as barry is fouling the White House, there IS NO security on any level for our nation because no one trusts that barry won’t turn on them in a New York minute.

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 1:12 AM

What about the butt bombs?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/item_hKiF3TDJkgYItnBQkJXmTN

shorebird on January 4, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Anyone wanna bet when we see change we can relieve on
Before or after the summer of 2010 ?
Followed by the all important journey , just like grandma by the sheikh to seal the demise of our country

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 1:39 AM

Exit question: What’s AQ’s next move now?

Just to wait a day or so.

By 9 a.m. Monday the ACLU will have objected to this move.

By noon our government will have capitulated.

PattyJ on January 4, 2010 at 1:50 AM

Anyone wanna bet when we see change we can relieve on
Before or after the summer of 2010 ?
Followed by the all important journey , just like grandma by the sheikh to seal the demise of our country

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 1:39 AM

If barry weren’t a muslim, there would be a fatwah out on his azzwah, because a muslim father, which barry had, makes him automatically a muslim. Then, he was adopted by a muslim, which again makes him automatically a muslim.
The muzzies know he’s one of them cause if he wasn’t they would be all over the place with threats if barry truly were not a muslim. And, as muzzies don’t celebrate Christmas or birthdays or give gifts, neither do the obamas who let that one slip in People magazine before the election. But, no follow up, blah, blah, blah, we know the rest of the story.

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 2:55 AM

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 2:55 AM

The Ashura of 2009 was observed on 27th to 28th of December, depending on geographical location.
Hussain and family ran away from Christmas in DC to observe Ashura in Hawaii

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 3:00 AM

The Ashura of 2009 was observed on 27th to 28th of December, depending on geographical location.
Hussain and family ran away from Christmas in DC to observe Ashura in Hawaii

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 3:00 AM

Yes, and I find it odd that no one questions why the press is on complete blackout – hardly a photo from his vacay, who are the “friends” that are with them, of course, no church service Christmas Day … they cover, cover, cover but I hope we all see the day when our purse-lipped pagan gets her comeuppance… that reference made me remember the anatomical doll pic just now…as Chrissy Matthews would exclaim, Hah!

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 3:09 AM

Don’t know if you’re still there mac, but if so, g’night.

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 3:14 AM

tigerlily on January 4, 2010 at 3:09 AM

Hajj in 2010 is in the 2nd wk of November

There are the 3 ways it can cut :
MSM will start spinning / justifying his islamic leanings during the summer vacation/travel season of 2010
1. leading eventually to a groundswell of support for him and the democrats win even bigger than 2008 and he goes to Mecca
2. He lets the elections happen in 2010, democrats suffer defeat and he visits Mecca
3. no elections in 2010, he goes to Mecca and Chrissy shows up in a burka to cry tears of joy. Hah

macncheez on January 4, 2010 at 3:38 AM

A senior official identifies the relevant” countries of interest”: Afghanistan, Algeria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, or Yemen, or one of the following countries designated as a state sponsor of terrorism: Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and Syria.

Even this list itself is PC, where in the hell are the “Palestinians”?

They _invented_ aero-terrorism.

mudskipper on January 4, 2010 at 7:31 AM

Frankly, I can’t believe these “measures” weren’t already in place….say, since..2002.

Bunch of morons…

bridgetown on January 3, 2010 at 7:34 PM

+100

The navel-gazing liberal mindset.

singlemalt_18 on January 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/01/03/obamas-approach-to-terrorism-reveals-two-classic-flaws-in-his-character-narcissism-and-ignorance/

This is my post, one of several, explaining how it is going to be done. Read Tom Clancy’s “Teeth of the Tiger” to get a sense of how easy it would be. We have an open society, which is good. Unfortunately, that will allow anyone dead set on harming innocent civilians an opportunity to do so. Which is bad. But no governmental authority can totally stop the threat (especially if the controlling operational concept is political correctness above all other things) without shutting the open society down. It is the classic trade-off between freedom and security and ending up with neither.

The only things stopping the terrorists from seizing the opportunity more often was the hard work of some law enforcement people and the knowledge the terrorists possessed that any huge strike could very well launch a retaliation on the level of Bush’s (conquering two nations, killing one leader and his kids, running the others into the mountains with carpet bombing). At the upper levels of the “Jihad” I am convinced there is a political level that measures what is considered an acceptable strike. Not all jihadists are in it for the seventy-two virgins reward, that usually shows up at the lower more ignorant level. These men are not stupid, KSM wasn’t in it for death, he was in it for opportunity. Only after he got caught did he done the trappings of a purist.

However, now that Obama has “reset” the rules, the terrorists may very well change tactics again. Now if they are in a foreign land they could catch a Hellfire in the head. But if they are here killing people and run out of ammo, they can throw down their guns and give up. The worse that happens is an arrest and a free lawyer, and all the attention they now crave.

What a deal!

archer52 on January 4, 2010 at 8:20 AM

trubble on January 3, 2010 at 7:38 PM

We just released a forger from Gitmo back to Somaliland mid-Dec. I think Ed/AP had a story on it.

So the clock is ticking. All he needs to do is get back to his AQ buddies and get new materials.

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 4, 2010 at 8:22 AM

If Bush would have ordered this (and did he?) the press would have screamed that he was a racist and hater of Muslims.

albill on January 4, 2010 at 8:29 AM

Where exactly will these pattings down and searches occur? At the departure gate in the country of suspicion? Who exactly will perform the searches and pattings? How is that person’s integrity and motives checked?

And what happens when the enemy grows out of their juvenile fixation with aircraft and decides to target railway ticket offices with suitcase bombs instead?

Fortunately, the lack of imagination of our so-called security experts has so far been matched by the lack of imagination of the enemy.

YiZhangZhe on January 4, 2010 at 8:46 AM

I am giving this 2 weeks before 1)Cair or ACLU threatens lawsuits 2) Passengers start complaining about late flights/missing connections 3) Airlines/governments say they don’t have enough cash to keep this up indefinitely
and they end it quietly or only do it at peak travel times.

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 4, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Terrorism is not exclusively limited to the Muslim faith (Chechen suicide bombers and FARC come to mind), but how would they find out a person’s religion?

jonknee on January 3, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Yeh, but as liberals were so fond of saying about the health care shambill (I guess they all thought it made them sound so professorial..)… let’s not make the perfect the enemy of the good shall we?

PROFILE MUSLIMS NOW!

max1 on January 4, 2010 at 12:20 PM

I thought we were fighting terrorists to preserve our freedoms? Seems like terrorism is being used as an excuse to take away our freedoms. If we’re going to live in fear and paranoia, then haven’t they won?

lodge on January 4, 2010 at 4:52 PM