Shocker: Timmy Geithner still a mess at Treasury
posted at 8:40 am on May 18, 2009 by Karl
About as shocking as the gambling at Rick’s Cafe Americain:
While Geithner has taken dramatic steps to address flashpoints in the economy, the work of carrying out those policies has bogged down because critical decisions about how to do so aren’t being made, interviews with a broad range of federal officials show.
Government officials, inside the Treasury and out, say the unresolved issues are piling up in part because of vacancies in the department’s top ranks. But some of the officials also cite the Treasury’s ad-hoc management, which is dominated by a small band of Geithner’s counselors who coordinate rescue initiatives but lack formal authority to make decisions. Heavy involvement by the White House in Treasury affairs has further muddied the picture of who is responsible for key issues, the officials add.
One of the department’s signature initiatives, considered vital for getting at the root of the financial crisis, aims at relieving banks of their toxic assets. But to those familiar with the program, it remains unclear who will decide some of the practical details, such as whether foreign firms will be allowed to participate in the funds that buy the assets. This uncertainty is slowing the rollout of the program, which in any case has proven daunting to design. Announced in early February, it may not launch until July, officials say.
If you thought the administration had resolved the issue of what American International Group execs should be paid, you thought wrong. Treasury is also yet to decide whether to pay ousted General Motors chief G. Richard Wagoner Jr. his $20 million severance package.
It might have been hoped that someone would be answering the phones at the Treasury Department by now, but perhaps this level of disorganization is not surprising in an administration whose head has virtually no experience running anything.
Aside from the issue of basic competence, the common thread running through the current batch of issues is the Obama Administration’s cavalier attitude toward contracts and the rule of law. The administration has had problems getting lenders to participate in the supposed keystones of its economic agenda — the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility and the Public-Private Investment Program — because lenders no longer trust that Obama and the Democratic Congress will not change the rules in midstream for reasons of political expediency. Geithner’s disorganized dithering only adds to the uncertainty that undermines economic recovery.
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I hope the GOP Senator who voted to confirm Giethner is feeling stupid right now…I think I’ll send him back his email “justification” for his vote and make him eat his words.
Bone head.
ladyingray on May 18, 2009 at 8:43 AM
But I thought Geitner was the only one smart enough to handle this. Anyone willing to saddle up with the Obama administration can’t be too smart.
bopbottle on May 18, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Robin Hood and his band of merry men,robbing from the rich and giving to the….democrats and their voting constituents.
“smart power” indeed.
Baxter Greene on May 18, 2009 at 8:48 AM
But,but…he’s supposed to be leading us.
Plus he’s a beautiful person..or something.
StevefromMKE on May 18, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Heavy involvement by the White House in Treasury affairs has further muddied the picture
Complicated by the fact, as was mentioned, that the White House Crew thinks things will get done just by saying so, regardless of whatever laws might stand in the way.
This is the Russian Army version of the Presidency; point at the map and say “Take that hill” even though there is a river in the way and the troops have no boats. The generals salute, issue the orders, and the troops dutifully march into the water and drown.
Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM
???
Yes, that’s a lot of money, but if he is contractually entitled to receive it, what’s to question?
I hope he has the backbone to publicly sue them if they withhold it.
cs89 on May 18, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Well what did they expect? He is a tax cheat afterall.
jeffn21 on May 18, 2009 at 8:54 AM
When you look at Biden, Riggs, Holder, Napolitano, Jones Geithner you see how this could possibly be the most incompetent administration in our history. Combine the corruption and incompetence of Reid (Senate) and Peloser (House of Reps), it only reinforces that possibility that this could be a turning point that may be difficult to recover from.
volsense on May 18, 2009 at 8:54 AM
I’m still waiting to use my tax cheat stamp.
ctmom on May 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Redux:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/06/why-the-aussies-could-have-predicted-geithners-incompetence/
Itchee Dryback on May 18, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Hey, way to go, Karl.
BigD on May 18, 2009 at 8:57 AM
volsense on May 18, 2009 at 8:54 AM
This can’t be said enough. There may be some administrations from the 19th or early 20th century that were pretty bad too, but I doubt any of them were so fixated on purposely trying to make America a third-world craphole.
Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 8:59 AM
You know, it might have been a good idea not to make the companies you want to “help” not trust you just four months into the great leap forward.
Should have waited, at least a year, to pull the rug out from under them.
Way to go Timmy.
myrenovations on May 18, 2009 at 8:59 AM
One has to love the Kabuki theater of promised compensation which becomes unpromised after the act for which the promise was made is fulfilled.
As the Administration is dealing with Wagoner, so it dealt with the rest of us.
unclesmrgol on May 18, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Flashpoints in the economy require emergency passage of Obamacare and cap-and-trade.
petefrt on May 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM
The problem with filling the positions, is that then they are forced to make decisions, and own those decisions.
Better they let them “pile up”, then to make a decision they have to take ownership of.
right2bright on May 18, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Remember my previous comments about not having a bank rescue plan in place until April b/c NCAA March Maddness was in full swing?
And amending that comment b/c baseball fantasy drafts and the NBA playoffs were going on so don’t expect it until June?
Well, don’t expect it in June either b/c the baseball season is in full swing and then in July NFL training camps open. August isn’t looking too good either.
gonnjos on May 18, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Timothy Geitner: He’s the indispensable man. Indispensable at wrecking the US economy.
Seriously, where are the frakking adults?
rbj on May 18, 2009 at 9:02 AM
And Michelle Obama is HOTTTT. Maxim magazine said so….
mjk on May 18, 2009 at 9:03 AM
You have to wonder if we are not getting the old,”just be so futile and dis-organized that no one will be able to follow the money” to allow friends and associates to get their money while democrats feign the usual,”we got tricked,we were lied to” drivel.
This whole administration is just to corrupt to be this stupid:
It’s official. TARP is just theft.
Fabius Maximus @ 12:01 am
http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2009/05/01/tarp/
1.“Thievery Under TARP“, Robert Scheer, The Nation, 22 April 2009
2.Initial Report to the Congress, SIGTARP, 6 February 2009
3.Quarterly Report to Congress, SIGTARP, 21 April 2009
But the watchdog press is on the case right.
Is this the White House core’s idea of “enchantment”:
(via powerline)
TARP: The Looming Debacle
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/04/023420.php
April 27, 2009 Posted by John at 8:00 AM
But the people that were not on bended knee in the People’s Temple of Obama knew that Geithner was inept and corrupt:
As Crisis Loomed, Geithner Pressed But Fell Short
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040203227_pf.html
By Robert O’Harrow Jr. and Jeff Gerth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 3, 2009; A01
Here is how many CEO’s felt about Geithner being put in charge of the “hen house”:
By ANDREW ROSS SORKIN
New York Times
I am just stunned,shocked I tell you at the level of incompetence in the Greatest Transition EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!.
Baxter Greene on May 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Someone’s got him by the short & curlies, and it’s not his conscience.
bluelightbrigade on May 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Heh. I mocked a friend of mine this weekend over the fact that Hope and Change didn’t seem to amount to much. Pretty sure she was going to cry.
Then again, she was the one who insisted she was smarter than me when I warned her about believing the hype. Last week, she asked me if they spoke Farsi in Turkey and were in fact black. I just laughed and shook my head.
mjk on May 18, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Must be those $500 shoes…
StevefromMKE on May 18, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Why, it’s almost as if Obama had no significant executive experience…………..
Techie on May 18, 2009 at 9:15 AM
How’s that offshore accounting doing Mr. Geithner?
Rovin on May 18, 2009 at 9:15 AM
You haven’t been paying attention; contracts and the rule of law mean less than political expediency to these guys. Hence the reference to institutions that are reluctant to engage because they know the rules have changed – and are subject to change on a whim in the future.
Midas on May 18, 2009 at 9:17 AM
LOL
blatantblue on May 18, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Oh lighten up you racists! Don’t you know that it takes time to confer with Wall Street on what they want done?
katablog.com on May 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Obama: Contracts? Contracts? We don’t care about no steenkin’ contracts.
Daggett on May 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM
As I’ve said before, this administration reminds me of when The Little Rascals would put on a show to raise money. Except with them, there was always a happy ending.
kingsjester on May 18, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Is Obama Alfalfa?
Upstater85 on May 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Upstater85 on May 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Good possibility. His press conferences have the same effect on me as Alfalfa’s singing.
kingsjester on May 18, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Did anyone else see the HA headline about Obama’s personal finances this past weekend? Someone pieced together the Obamas’ personal finances from 1999 to 2005 or so, and estimated that Obama and his wife had borrowed as much as $250,000 against a condo they purchased for about $155,000.
I wouldn’t allow Obama to run a lemonade stand for me, though 53% of the voters have allowed him to have free rein in running the world’s largest economy. But then “[He] won.”
BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Have they hired anyone at Treasury to work under Geithner yet? I went to the website and clicked on About-Treasury Officials and his is the only name listed.
CP on May 18, 2009 at 9:25 AM
I am really starting to wonder if they can operate for the whole term with this level of incompetence.
I fear the answer is yes.
In the meantime, my personal situation has become as much of a fiasco as the federal government directly due to the federal government.
I can not believe that I’m the only one. As people start feeling this in their homes, this is a revolution in the making like nothing else.
Ronald Reagan’s win in 80 is going to look small soon, but not soon enough for me.
ORconservative on May 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM
it’s probably the reason why Geithner is one of the very few people in the Obama administration that SNL feels that it’s OK to goof upon.
stormin1961 on May 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Quagmire , this is why the government should stay out of the economy as much as possible. It’s unmanageable and inefficient if you try to centralize it.
the_nile on May 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Undermine contract law.
Fire CEOs of private companies and dictate their pay.
Nationalize banks.
Demonize risk taking (aka private investment, aka capitalism).
Re-brand government deficit spending as “investment”
Initiate a “Public-Private Investment Program” (this one gives me the cold sweats)
And we haven’t even gotten to health care and “tax reform” yet.
Are we allowed to start calling this what it is yet?
forest on May 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM
BTW –
Has anyone noticed that five months into the new administration, NONE of the Treasury posts have been confirmed? That web site at treasury still says that the only “top official” is Geithner himself.
http://www.treasury.gov/organization/officials.html
Outlander on May 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Wish I could say that there is no “decision” to be made, because the law says he must be paid.
What does the law mean to Obama, exactly? It’s just an impediment.
amkun on May 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Diesel Power magazine referred to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act as the OSWAD act (oh sh!t we’re all doomed).
silverfox on May 18, 2009 at 9:36 AM
“lenders no longer trust that Obama and the Democratic Congress will not change the rules in midstream for reasons of political expediency”
When you kill the goose who lays golden eggs , no more golden eggs.
Overreach.
the_nile on May 18, 2009 at 9:38 AM
You have to wonder if Geithner was only “indispensable” because of his experience.
Experience at destroying Indonesia’s economy, that is.
amkun on May 18, 2009 at 9:39 AM
The only thing truly amazing is that the writer, David Cho, seems to be surprised.
Jdripper on May 18, 2009 at 9:43 AM
I think I must need a dose of “hopeNchange” because I’m getting depressed. Someone write some good news – it’s okay if it’s made up. After all, that’s the way of “hopeNchange”
katablog.com on May 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM
“O my darlin, O my darlin, O my darlin country mine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry
Country mine.”
Christian Conservative on May 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM
What’s Obama’s Exit Strategy for this mess?
Patrick S on May 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Exit strategy?
You’ve got to be kidding, he’s still on his entrance strategy.
ORconservative on May 18, 2009 at 9:58 AM
someone explain this to me:; bambi/geithner/bailouts–it is all bad. no one knows how they will screw up something next or ignore the law.
that being said, why then is the stock market holding pretty much at its current level, only deviating a few hundred points either way?
kelley in virginia on May 18, 2009 at 9:58 AM
QUAGMIRE!!!!!
rockmom on May 18, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Not a financial analysts in the least, but my take is the stock market only looks ahead ~6 months. In six months things will probably be better than today. The stock market does not look ahead long term, because, IMHO, you can get out of the market when you think the long term issues will impact earnings in the near (6 months) future.
WashJeff on May 18, 2009 at 10:07 AM
What’s Obama’s Exit Strategy for this mess?
Patrick S on May 18, 2009 at 9:55 AM
A helicopter evacuation from the roof of the White House as angry mobs storm the grounds.
Bishop on May 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
This is not a huge deal. New Administrations have a lot of flexibility to put nominees on the payroll as consultants and temporary appointees, though they cannot sign any official papers until they are confirmed. But I think they are running out of time for some of those people and do need to get them confirmed. The longer this goes on, the more room there will be for Republicans to embarrass the Administration in those confirmation hearings and whenever Geithner testifies on anything else.
That being said, if this were a new Republican administration in this sort of economic crisis and there were this many empty posts at Treasury, I can only imagine the media howling that would be occurring every day.
rockmom on May 18, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Aside from the issue of basic competence, the common thread running through the current batch of issues is the Obama Administration’s cavalier attitude toward contracts and the rule of law.
Karl
And there’s not one party with standing before the courts to challenge this?
SKYFOX on May 18, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Hope and change.
This is what change in contract law looks like. What is it with the narrow minded conservatives? Just change the terms in a contract. Who needs permission. Remember He won.
seven on May 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Timmah!!
gregbert on May 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
And what I have to say about the people who vote them into office and/or voted into power the man who appointed them is best left to myself. Unfortunately, America deserves this right now… even though it means taking those of us who saw it coming down with them.
Part of me is very optimistic about 2010 and 2012 but another part of me worries that Obama’s followers and the media will double down and somehow be able to continue on another term…. consequences be damned.
Yakko77 on May 18, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Just have faith everyone. The country “made history” you hadn’t heard in electing Obama into office. Isn’t that enough?
/s
Yakko77 on May 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
This administration is best characterized by not The Little Rascals, but by the above movie, Duck Soup.
Freedonians Arise!
Uniblogger on May 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Why the vacancies???? More control – More cover – Less opposition
marklmail on May 18, 2009 at 10:55 AM
machiavellian pragmatist!
;)
/strangledit
daesleeper on May 18, 2009 at 11:12 AM
It’s a sad day when Moonbat Robert Sheer of the pinko commie Nation Magazine makes sense.
Where are the Republicans in Congress on this? They should be howling like wolves.
Buy Danish on May 18, 2009 at 11:19 AM
It’s better that he doesn’t do anything. They are idiots.
Riposte on May 18, 2009 at 11:33 AM
I knew Beavis wouldn’t make a good Treasury Secretary.
mountaineer for liberty on May 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I’ve had mine for months, but have yet to see any money with the Tax Cheat’s signature on it. What’s up with that?
ihasurnominashun on May 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM
You guys are all just such cynics! Timmy is the kind of Stand-up, Righteous Dude who not only talks his talk, but walks his walk. OF COURSE he hasn’t hired a lot of folks to head the various departments in Treasury… he’s saving money, DUH!!! He’s more aware than you or I of how much it costs to hire competent executives, what with their ruinous bonus requirements and all. If the New Corporates can’t pay their execs, by golly Treasury will lead the way by not even hiring them.
That’s leadership right there, boys. Leadership.
Mr Michael on May 18, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I’m still curious about one little thing:
According to Turbo Tim, it was only after he started going to a tax professional that he became aware of his tax obligations for prior years. Preparing his own returns in 2001 and 2002 is where he went wrong.
So how did he get his taxes done PRIOR to 2001?
He identified only 2001 & 2002 as the years in which he prepared his own taxes…innocently overlooking his tax obligations. I therefore conclude that he also used a tax professional in years prior to 2001.
Why, I wonder, did he do his own taxes just for those 2 years?
Owen Glendower on May 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Maybe I have a too simplistic idea about this, but it seems to me that the Treasury Department is now just a front for funneling taxpayers’ money to the Democrats and their favored groups.
As such, it really doesn’t need that many people in it, plus it’s better to have fewer who know what you are up to.
Alana on May 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
This really means they’re all cluless, nothing is getting done, decision makers are clueless. So its a clown Circus.
dogsoldier on May 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM
That line alone, is disturbing. Not because it’s true, which is blatantly obvious. But because no one….no one in Congress, or the administration is standing up, and saying Mr. President….you are breaking the law, and it MUST STOP!!!
capejasmine on May 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM
How come nobody in the conservative blogosphere has discovered the goldmine of a meme here? 100+ days into his Presidency, which is taking place during the worst economic meltdown since the ’70s, Obama has not staffed the Treasury Department.
That’s something that everyone can get angry about, something that indicates poor job performance even if one agrees with Obama’s policies.
We should start a list: “Things Obama finds more important than staffing the Treasury Dept. in the Middle of a Recession.”
1. Weekly cocktail parties
2. Watching the new Star Trek movie
3. Buying a dog
etc.,
etc.
CarpeFishem on May 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Oh and by the way, guess where Tax Cheat Geithner was recently…BILDERBERG!
Along with the following so-called “Americans”…
Donald Graham, United States (Washington Post Company)
Richard Holbrooke, the U.S. (Obama’s special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan)
James Jones, the U.S. (National Security Advisor to the White House)
Vernon Jordan, United States
Robert Keigkan, United States
Henry Kissinger, United States
*–One of the BIG NAMES going to this globalist conference–and has for a long, long, long time.
Jessica Matthews, United States
Craig dirty, U.S. (Microsoft)
These two names should shock you “conservatives”
Richard Pearl, United States (Αmerican Enterprise Institute)
David Petreaus, United States (head of the Central Administration of the U.S. Armed Forces)
David Rockefeller, U.S.
Dennis Ross, United States
Ruby Barnet, United States
Samer Lawrence, United States
Peter Thiel, USA
Paul Volker, the U.S.
James Goulfenson, United States (the former World Bank President)
Paul Goulfovits, United States
Farint Zakaria, United States (Analyst Journalist, Newsweek)
Robert Zoellick, United States (President World Bank)
Now someone try and tell me Bilderberg DOES NOT EXIST! You think that way, you are part of the false left-right paradigm–AND GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A$$!
If that doesn’t do the trick, perhaps this video (embedded in this link) where a group called WeAreChangeOhio blitzes CNN info-tart Soledad O’Brien–And for her–MASSIVE FAIL!
BobAnthony on May 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Useful idiots are so useful
Especially if you want to burn through a trillion bucks without oversight
entagor on May 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Here is a liveleak Bilderberg 2008 guest list
Bilderberg Group is creepy IMHO. There are a number of these ‘influential person gatherings’ which are semi private as participants tend to play up the secrecy while leaking their own goals, which tend to be globalist in the name of a better world.
Such groups seek out people of wealth and power and have goals that involve altering world systems for the betterment of mankind. Because they are non elected, not accountable, and secretive they are a bad reference for the elected accountable or appointed accountable persons who get invited to join the secret problem solving group.
I dod not even like Hillary’s secret Health Care research when Bill was President
I notice they tend to invite up and coming potential power figures into the group. It is a bad play for military to be in such groups. Leads to a lack of trust
I find it disappointing so many influentials fall for the honor off being invited to the secretive society where they can hobnob with the elite. It leads to delusions of grandeur and a disconnect from the peasants who often made their status possible
entagor on May 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Beautiful!
Even worse is Obama then saying that Treasury’s moves are “Unsustainable”. This is suicide for no purpose.
Does this mean that the printing presses will be stopped? No. Does this mean that Banks will get clear guidelines for loans? No. Does this mean that the budget will be repealed and balanced? No. Does this mean that the Stimulus money will be repealed? No. Does this mean that Government Run Health, Government Interference in the Private Sector, Government Bailouts, ANYTHING will be stopped or rolled back or not implimented? No. The Treasury is blind and being run by an Obama.
GunRunner on May 19, 2009 at 12:48 AM