9/11 Commission chair: I can’t believe we’re still having these intel problems

posted at 3:00 pm on December 31, 2009 by Allahpundit

Eight years later, the system still doesn’t work.

“It’s discouragingly familiar,” said Tom Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey who co-chaired the 9/11 Commission. “It’s exactly the language we heard when we were making recommendations for the 9/11 report. That was five years ago. We made our recommendations based on the fact that agencies didn’t share information and it seems to be the case that, once again, they didn’t share information. It’s very discouraging.”

“We thought that had been remedied,” the ranking member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Kit Bond (R-Mo.), told POLITICO. “If they’re not talking with each other, that’s a problem that we’ve been tearing our hair out over for a long time, demanding that they talk to each other. … I’m very upset.”

“This is textbook Al Qaeda 2001,” says an intel expert, aghast, to the Times. “They tried to hit the hardest target we have, the one on which the most money and attention has been spent since 2001. And yet we didn’t prevent it.” Why not? Follow the link and read the Times piece. Looks like it was the National Counterterrorism Center — created after 9/11 for the explicit purpose of connecting the dots on terror data collected by different agencies — that failed to connect the dots. Another NYT story out this morning runs through the timeline of when the dots appeared, but that info should already be familiar to HA readers: They heard jihadis in Yemen talking about a plot involving a Nigerian, they were told by a Nigerian father that his radical son had gone missing in Yemen, and they heard chatter about a Christmas attack around the time Abdulmutallab bought an airline ticket for, um, Christmas Day. And still — no connection. It actually reached this point of bureaucratic absurdity:

The TIDE issue has become a “he said, she said” among various government agencies. My colleague Marc Ambinder reported that, according to one of his sources, the State Department thought NCTC was checking visas against the TIDE list, and NCTC thought that State was doing the checking.

“You’d be shocked how many times we still come up with this, ‘Gee I thought you were doing it,’” my source added. “Initially, our reports were that he was on no-fly list. Obviously that was wrong. This is clearly a failure of the system.”

For instance, he asks rhetorically, “Why – if he was denied British visa – why wasn’t that shared with us? I don’t know.”

They better clean up quick because, as a third Times piece argues, the plotting against mainland America from big jihadist outfits is no longer confined to the Pakistani tribal areas. As for unconnected dots, I’ll leave you with two further thoughts. First, here’s a clip of the boss from this morning’s “Fox & Friends” wondering why we had to connect any dots at all to deny a visa to someone fitting Abdulmutallab’s profile. And second, read this post at the Jawa Report on Abdulmutallab’s exposure to radical Islamic propaganda — including the sermons of Anwar al-Aulaqi — right here in the United States. I won’t spoil the surprise by telling you the connection to … the National Counterterrorism Center.


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That’s what happens when you put Democrats in charge, they resurrect the walls that prevent flow of information between agencies.

Enoxo on December 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Strike “still” and insert “again” at the end of the headline.

mankai on December 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Can I ask a liberal…. Do you feel safe?

upinak on December 31, 2009 at 3:06 PM

No wonder I lost considerable amount of hair on the front part of my head this year…facepalms!

WashJeff on December 31, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Smart power.

revolutionismyname on December 31, 2009 at 3:07 PM

mankai on December 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM

+a krillion

LibTired on December 31, 2009 at 3:07 PM

This didn’t happen when Dick Cheney was in office.

massrighty on December 31, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Liberal Party,doesn’t want to hear,see,speak Terrorism!!

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:08 PM

O/T,SarahCuda is on Hannity Talk Radio as I type:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:08 PM

O/T,SarahCuda is on Hannity Talk Radio as I type:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:08 P

It’s a rerun from her book tour.

Enoxo on December 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM

I can’t believe we’re still having these intel problems

I can. The democrats and the left and the extreme right/libertarians have done everything they can to undermine our war against terror.

Blake on December 31, 2009 at 3:12 PM

Without trying to be too miserable about the current administration, they were probably going to try and test the new waters anyway. I hope he can come up with a way to show those folks that he’s not a push over.

Cindy Munford on December 31, 2009 at 3:12 PM

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Thank you. Rerun or not – worth listening to.

Blake on December 31, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Strike “still” and insert “again” at the end of the

headline.

mankai on December 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM

That is correct.

VegasRick on December 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I think a lot of the mistakes are just bureaucracy in action. In any big organization {and government is the biggest} people often just drop the ball. No matter how many rules you have in place, screw ups will still happen. I do think they need to do more profiling however, that would require more people maybe, and there might still be mistakes, but this is a guy who should have been stopped long before he got on the plane.

Terrye on December 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Slightly off topic, I bought a titanium firing pin and M-9 bayonet for my M4 today. Zombies and terrorists beware…..

donkichi on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

I’m not surprised,the entire year has been an Orgasmic
Worship of Obama,

meanwhile,the Jihadys planned and attacked,

just like Clinton 24/7 Bimbo Eruptions,the Jihadys also
planned and attacked,

like 2001,and now 2009!

And again,its Dejavu!!

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Must read:

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_kurt_hask.html

Money quote:
Seriously Mr. Ron Smith, how stupid do you think the American public is?”

MechEng5by5 on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

How many feel like Obama re-broke the system to make respect for Muslims his new way to fight the war on terror?

tarpon on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

The last similar attempt )Richard Reid) was 8 years ago.

Only thing that has changed is that the Democrats adults have been in charge of Congress for the last 3 years, and of the WH for the past 1 year.

Gotta be a connection there.

Del Dolemonte on December 31, 2009 at 3:19 PM

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Thank you. Rerun or not – worth listening to.

Blake on December 31, 2009 at 3:13 PM

Blake:I must confess,I thought it was live,and Happy New
Year Blake to you and your family:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:19 PM

That’s what happens when you put Democrats in charge, they resurrect the walls that prevent flow of information between agencies.

Enoxo on December 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Jamie Gorelick erected one of those walls blocking the flow of intelligence.

Plus this:

Even though she had no previous training nor experience in finance, Gorelick was appointed Vice Chairman of Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) from 1997 to 2003.

How do such idiots rise to positions of power?

Geochelone on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM

MM 100% right here. If we stopped letting them come over here from the State Department, we wouldn’t have to worry as much about it.

We wouldn’t even need to be there fighting a war in Af/Pak. Just don’t let people who have traveled there come here. That action might make them mad, but it would eliminate 90% of the danger we currently face for very little money.

Add Yemen on the no entry to the US list. Eventually when their economies depend on the Muslim countries for charity and support instead of America, they’ll get serious about anti-US terrorism being launched from their countries.

ThackerAgency on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Bozo’s NCC had the CIA raw report. The guy’s been in the terror database quite a while. For whatever sick PC reason, they did not yank his visa and they allowed him on the plane.

Thats why Bozo’s clown crew ramped up the spin machine. Their approach to everything is political. Only one fly in that ointment. In a war your enemy uses bullets and bombs while Bozo makes angry faces and spews fiery rhetoric written by somebody else.

All he and his crew want to do is campaign to hold power. They are indifferent to actually dealing with issues and they appear to be psychotic.

Is it rational to expend all the energy on the unimportant things the dems have done while ignoring the war, the unemployed and the homeless?

The libs are sick, perverse and stupid. Their lack of ability and desire to govern properly will cost us dearly.

Well someone agrees with me. I read they beefed up security in Times Square.

When Holder brings his part of Bozo’s bigtop to NYC…

dogsoldier on December 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM

somehow I get the feeling that the people in the state department think giving your enemy weapons to show them you trust them is a good tactic in warfare.

ThackerAgency on December 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Eight years later, the system still doesn’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a politically correct sham ‘show’ panel that did everything but blame those truly accountable and hold them responsible with serious jail time and financial hardship so others might think twice before putting American lives in jeopardy again…

But we can’t have THAT,

can we…?

Seven Percent Solution on December 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Technically, the system could not fail. The idea ‘analysts’ do the dot connecting is as antiquated as it is quaint. But computers sift the data and no computer could miss these dots. They knew in August there was a Nigerian being trained for a Christmas day attack. According to a CNN source they had the guy’s first and middle name. So when his father contacted the embassy and State and the CIA started entering their reports, the data was also automatically going to NCTC in the DC area.

The dots were connected. Some policy changed directed them to be ignored, which is why Team Obama is in full damage control-blame Bush mode.

AJStrata on December 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Michelle revealed that the Obama administration had released six more Gitmo terrorists to Yemen on Christmas Eve. Why hasn’t this been blasted all over the front pages of the MSM newspapers and been torn apart by the MSM network and cable shows, is what I want to know.

Clearly, no matter the spin and attempt to place blame on Bush again, … clearly this is the most inept CYA administration in decades, and all their efforts are focused on the CYA aspects and not enough on protecting the country and its citizens and residents.

If this isn’t sufficient cause to recall a President and half the Congress, as it constitutes malfeasance in office, not just misfeasance, then we’re in deep trouble for the next three years. At least in 2010 we can start cleaning out the Congress, but unless it’s in sufficient numbers to give over majority control to the true Conservatives who would then have power to override Obama’s signature on any piece of legislation, then we’re screwed until 2012.

KendraWilder on December 31, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Fly the Eco-sensitive Skies

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=14021

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Intelligence is hard!

BacaDog on December 31, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Hmmm, it seems I remember after 9/11 hearing that the CIA was created to prevent another Pearl Harbor. 9/11 qualifies as another Pearl Harbor. DHS was created to prevent another 9/11. This shows that didn’t work any better.

I say we take off and nuke the site middle east from orbit. It’s the only way to make sure.

Kafir on December 31, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Terror attacks after 9/11:

Bush – 0
Obama – 2

faraway on December 31, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Kafir on December 31, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Not while our guys and gals are there, My I offer an alternative? Lets finish what we started like we did in WWII Europe.

dogsoldier on December 31, 2009 at 3:33 PM

A very concerning situation occurred after flight 253 landed. From Kurt Haskell who flew on the plane. Check out his account and ask yourself if there is a conspiracy?? maybe?

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_kurt_hask.html

ted c on December 31, 2009 at 3:33 PM

wups, mlive post already posted previously. my bad.

ted c on December 31, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Upcoming blog headline, circa 2019

Obamacare director: I can’t believe people are still dying

SouthernGent on December 31, 2009 at 3:35 PM

9/11 Commission chair: I can’t believe we’re still having these intel problems

Whats there to not believe
Its not as if we didn’t predict all this , almost 2 years ago
What were you expecting with a jihady in the WH ?

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Allah- Good for you in using a picture of the WTC attack at the top of the thread.

It’s important to remember the consequences of the type of anti-terrorism activities practiced by the Clinton administration and more recently by the current administration. We simply cannot trust any administration that treats terrorists as ordinary criminals and terrorist events as isolated events. The Ft. Hood shootings and the UndieBomber are connected through a Muslim group in this nation. Why then does the administration call the UndieBomber an isolated individual, the event an “alleged attempt” and why did they turn Abdulmutallab over to the civil authorities instead of treating him like an enemy combatant. This administration is in the wrong path when it comes to terrorists and I fear many Americans will lose their lives because the radicals in power did not learn the lessons of the 9/11/01 atrocities.

highhopes on December 31, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I’d surmise that if the agencies aren’t talking to each other now, they probably weren’t talking to each other last year or the year before…

The problem is bureaucracy. It starts and ends there. It was a mistake to throw two more layers on top of the bureaucracy we already had.

I think the fact that we were ‘serious’ about the GWOT under Bush mitigated it, at least a little bit. But now, it’s just not a priority. It’s not a real war. We’re pushing it over to Law Enforcement, so AG Holder can shine.

Give those folks free range. Give them a hunting license.

Then, get out of their way.

juanito on December 31, 2009 at 3:39 PM

The government can’t protect you. They are utter failures. All the infringements on civil liberties, torture and wars — and still the defences are as weak as they were 8 years ago.

The American people swallowed the “it’s for your own good” nonsense hook, line and sinker.

lodge on December 31, 2009 at 3:40 PM

But we can’t have THAT,

can we…?

Seven Percent Solution on December 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Seven Percent Solution:The Obama Administration is not
from Arkansa,its from Thug City
Chicago,and in that,they are even
more cold and calculating in their
politics!

Liberal aspirations will always trump
America,as in a ‘Crisis’ shouldn’t be
wasted!!:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 3:40 PM

The “Centers” are primarily a multi-agency analytical outfit, and generally not very operations oriented. They include folks from all over the intelligence community, and contractors, and academics, some cleared for the top stuff, others not. Some with an eye toward analysis and others with an eye toward just about anything else…to include using a stint at one of the centers to launch a new career path outside national intelligence.

The “centers” (e.g., Counter-Terrorism, Counter-Narcotics, Counter-Proliferation) are also quite political. Committees and panels are the prime decision making tool. Being at the forefront of Washington DC power circuit and having direct contact with the power-brokers and decision-makers in Congress, and the White House, no one wants to get egg on their face. If it hasn’t been studied a hundred ways to Sunday, it normally will not be passed along to those same decision- makers. Can’t have the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee make a public annoucement and then have him/her proven to have been given false or erroneous information. Can’t pass anything White House until it has received its nihil obstat and imprimatur by the boss/bosses.

It is a question of mindset.

Doing analysis is a drawn out process, akin to a college professor and his colleagues and grad students putting together a study, or an article or book for publication, while trying to be first with the best of the info. Image matters.

On the operations side, we’ve done some pretty magnificent operations which started with a mere tidbit of intel. A portion of an audio op, a word or two picked up in conversation, a hasty observation. But, today, a lot of operations do not get off the ground until they are approved by a lot more folks than were necessary in the not so distant past.

Ops and analysis are two different worlds.

Attempting to meld them under some sort of super-center or new and improved bureaucracy may enhance analysis, or lead to reams of paper published in shiny format publications, but does not lend toward successful ops.

By the way, thousands of bits of intel and dozens and dozens of finished reports are sent to the centers each week just from the ops side of CIA.

Action v. analysis.

Mindset.

And, yes, as these centers have grown, and they have, all it takes is one of two individuals or more working at different ends of the room with different plans or direction on how to utilize intelligence information, and yes, it is quite plausible that the right hand may not know what the left hand is doing…routinely.

The 9-11 Commission did none of us any favors. One cannot head up intelligence operations the same way one can run an armored cavalry brigade or a major corporation. The push to spend money to solve problems, lots of money, has garnered little actual improvement in intelligence operations. It has produced a huge amount of paper, and a lifetime of briefings, and the numbers look good…but today we are overall less secure that we were in January 2002.

One other note…we lost seven officers in Afghanistan yesterday, to include one of our female chiefs of base. While DC dithers, we have people out there on the real tip of the spear, and they sometimes get killed just doing their jobs. Remember them, and all the rest of the folks at the tip of the spear in your prayers, please.

coldwarrior on December 31, 2009 at 3:47 PM

The system doesn’t work because those in charge aren’t interested in it working.

Bureaucrats aren’t interested in doing anything other than solidifying their own power base and job security. Oh, the lower echelon folks, the ‘worker bees’ care, but the ones at the top could care less.

This is what you get instead of fixing the problem. Any normal person when faced with a problem, analyzes it, finds a solution and enacts it. A government suit analyzes a problem, finds a solution, creates umpteen other government agencies to deal with the problem, then forgets about it.

This is why we can’t seem to be able to ‘win’ a war anymore. The soldier isn’t unleashed to fight it as in the past – he’s tethered by a government bureaucrat more interested in a pension than fighting a war. It never occurs to the bureaucrat that he won’t have a pension if the war is lost – they can’t think that far ahead.

Until we get honest enough with ourselves to do what REALLY needs to be done in the GWoT, this problem will not go away.

catmman on December 31, 2009 at 3:47 PM

The government can’t protect you.

It is as simple – and critical – as that.

And for the record – that includes the military. That isn’t a statement against the military; as an infantry platoon leader, I’m on the tip of that particular spear now, and in a couple months I’ll be in the Middle East doing my part.

But the military is, after all, a massive government-run bureaucracy. It is amazingly efficient and adept (in spite of its government sponsor, not because of it) at its tasked missions … but the military (at least the conventional military) is designed for a specific set of tasks.

Counter-terrorism, especially that geared towards static defense of civilian targets, is decidedly NOT what the military is intended for. If you need something destroyed afterwards, call me. I’m your guy. But to prevent this sort of attack? Nope. Not my thing.

Want to truly fix it? Take the conservative solution: privatize it. Let private industry take over security of airports and ports and borders. Make them compete; give them massive economic incentives for success – and the opposite for failure.

Get government out of the picture, let American ingenuity do what it does best, and the bumbling idiots we call enemies will have zero chance of success.

Keep Barack Obama and Janet Napalitano in charge, and … well, like I said, I’m ready to go kill the bad guys once they kill a few hundred or thousand of your friends and family. I’ll do it well. I’ll enjoy it, too.

But it might be better if you never had to make that call. Why not start doing it right?

Professor Blather on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Even though she had no previous training nor experience in finance, Gorelick was appointed Vice Chairman of Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) from 1997 to 2003.

How do such idiots rise to positions of power?

Geochelone on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Anywhere that wretched woman goes,catastrophe soon follows.They should airdrop her into POK_EE_STON.

theTarCzar on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

“You’d be shocked how many times we still come up with this, ‘Gee I thought you were doing it,’” my source added.

Have these people never heard of a practice or trial run? Programmers do it – system tests. The military does it – war games. Schools do it – fire drills. Just have some people playing islamos giving off red flags and then check later to see who knew what and when and passed it on to whomever and whenever.

MB4 on December 31, 2009 at 3:53 PM

and in a couple months I’ll be in the Middle East doing my part.
Professor Blather on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

When you go, please let us know. I know a few good people who would be happy to adopt you and your platoon.

upinak on December 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM

But you don’t understand; Obama is the most intelligent President ever!

marklmail on December 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM

“You’d be shocked how many times we still come up with this, ‘Gee I thought you were doing it,’” my source added.

when you assume, you make an “ass” out of “u” and “me”….

thanks intel weenies…don’t worry about responding, I’ll just assume that you got this message.

ted c on December 31, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Professor Blather on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

God bless you brother. Hope you have a great PSG.

ted c on December 31, 2009 at 3:58 PM

agencies didn’t share information and it seems to be the case that, once again, they didn’t share information

What’s the point of having multiple agencies when you can have one agency with a variety of missions being coordinated by a J. Edgar Hoover? It seems to me that the only reason you wouldn’t do it that way is because you really don’t want the right hand knowing what the left hand is doing.

Buddahpundit on December 31, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Maybe by staffing the commission with unadulterated hacks like jamie gorelick and richard ben venista caused it to be totally ineffective???

Just saying

Lonetown on December 31, 2009 at 4:01 PM

One other note…we lost seven officers in Afghanistan yesterday, to include one of our female chiefs of base. While DC dithers, we have people out there on the real tip of the spear, and they sometimes get killed just doing their jobs. Remember them, and all the rest of the folks at the tip of the spear in your prayers, please.

coldwarrior on December 31, 2009 at 3:47 PM

coldwarrior: Thank-you for your post,its insightful,and yes
8 CIA were killed yesterday!

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Anywhere that wretched woman goes,catastrophe soon follows.They should airdrop her into POK_EE_STON.

theTarCzar on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

theTarCzar: Correction! Its Puck is Stan!(I kid):)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:04 PM

They better clean up quick because, as a third Times piece argues, the plotting against mainland America from big jihadist outfits is no longer confined to the Pakistani tribal areas.

All warfare and politics is based on deception. Hey, what’s that behind you?
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew

In the practical art of war, you must be prepared to fight at any time and place in the future. In the impractical art of war, you should have been prepared quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. You’re scroomed.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew

MB4 on December 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Correction! Its Puck is Stan!(I kid):)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Puck is Stan
Pfuck a Stan
Tomato
Tomaaato

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 4:06 PM

What surprises me is that the Republicans can’t believe that the system they put it is not working. Well, it will never work with Democrats in power. They don’t want it to work. They have other ideas for America and that is to see her fall to her knees.

A system is only as good as the people who work within it. Work being the operative word. If you don’t work, the system will not be successful. They are so busy looking busy that they forget to do the actual work. Each one of those red flags that showed up had to have had someone that just didn’t bother to do their job correctly or in a timely manner or they just aren’t fit for their job.

BetseyRoss on December 31, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Of course it’s amazing we still have problems. Dems and other libs are perfect, aren’t they–legends in their own minds.

Ask any lib who posts here. It’s never once, among them, that Dems could be wrong. According to them you racefans, it’s always the fault of someone else in the vast right wing conspiracy.

To be honest, you racefans, I rather be wrong among you fellow conservatives than be ‘right’ all the time as a lib.

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:08 PM

MB4 on December 31, 2009 at 3:53 PM

that makes WAY too much sense.

Came a man from old Nigeria
His bomb created hysteria
At mass murder failed
Made eunuch and jailed
Now his job’s cleaning listeria

Mojave Mark on December 31, 2009 at 4:09 PM

9-11 Commission ? Thanks for nothing . Gorelick and gang .

borntoraisehogs on December 31, 2009 at 4:12 PM

look at the new headline

theTarCzar on December 31, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Libs always say we’re a vast right-wing conspiracy.

They also say we’re insignificant.

When their ways and policies are rejected, they then claim we’re so powerful a minority we defeat them.

Seriously–which the fuck is it?

Mr. Kean, we have these lasting problems because of people like YOU.

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Pfuck a Stan

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 4:06 PM

macncheez:That one I like better,ahem:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Why do many of you consider this a mistake by the democrats.

O and Soros want to destroy America. Terrorism is part of the “crisis” mode. Then the whole nation will run to gov. for safety and give up everything.

How much more clear does O have to be. He stated “I am on the side of muslims.” “Let me make this clear”

nondhimmie on December 31, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Strike “still” and insert “again” at the end of the headline.

mankai on December 31, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Exactly.

neurosculptor on December 31, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Came a man from old Nigeria
His bomb created hysteria
At mass murder failed
Made eunuch and jailed
Now his job’s cleaning listeria

Mojave Mark on December 31, 2009 at 4:09 PM

And the man from Kenya
Said it’s all Bush’s fault, I tell yuh!
Just pass my health plan real quick
And my Cap-N-Trade in the next nick
Then on matters of security’s state, I won’t just give you a duh

MB4 on December 31, 2009 at 4:29 PM

This needs a translation for the trolls.

Kean: We’re liberal and wonderfully kind tolerant, and understanding. We’re not exactly perfect, you know (don’t quote me on that), but we put in the most perfect system possible.

The only reason we have problems is because of the vast right wing conspiracy that’s insignificant, but it’s so big and bad that it thwarts all our efforts.

The VRWC is worthless, remember. But it’s a powerful threat against our new regime.

Ignore them! But always be watchful, for they are against you! They mean nothing, but they are also a serious threat.

Workers of the world, unite!

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Also, it isn’t doublespeak if you can believe in both opposites at the same time, trusting both are true though they might be mutually exclusive.

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Want to truly fix it? Take the conservative solution: privatize it. Let private industry take over security of airports and ports and borders. Make them compete; give them massive economic incentives for success – and the opposite for failure.

Professor Blather on December 31, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Professor Blather:I didn’t know,you were in the Military,
thank-you,for your service and Happy New
Year,PB:)

I would like to see the Military in charge of Air Flight
Safety,however Libs would have a cow,anyway,I think its
more important that a person wants to be there,not just
for a pay check,thinking about what movie there going to
rent for the evening,compared to a worker that truly takes
their job seriously,and has a background in law,or the mil
itary and really wants to protect the country,and has an eye
for any would be,wanna be or real McKoy Jihadys!!:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:39 PM

the State Department thought NCTC was checking visas against the TIDE list, and NCTC thought that State was doing the checking.

Yeah I feel safe putting my life in these folks hands…. Hey, I’ve got a great idea. Let’s get them to run health care too!

conservnut on December 31, 2009 at 4:42 PM

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:18 PM

So which one is Stan?

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 4:45 PM

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Libs can’t have cows. Cow pass gas, which contribute to global warming.

How about kittens, though? Oh, wait! No. Kittens might be translated to the term pu**y, which will offend gays. Can’t have that.

Dang…

Screw it all. Happy New Year, Patriot!

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Must read:

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_kurt_hask.html

Money quote:
“Seriously Mr. Ron Smith, how stupid do you think the American public is?”

MechEng5by5 on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Great–there are several people from here on HA taht will be traveling on planes in the near future…just freaking great to read this sh*t!!!!

I’m glad I have already broken out the whiskey!

lovingmyUSA on December 31, 2009 at 4:52 PM

This is why world wars start: politicians are so inept that their only weapon of self-protection ultimately is total war. They are incapable of wise half measures.

PattyJ on December 31, 2009 at 4:55 PM

How do such idiots rise to positions of power?

Geochelone on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM

She has the pictures of Bill Clinton having sex with

(insert your guess here)

Del Dolemonte on December 31, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I’m glad I have already broken out the whiskey!

lovingmyUSA on December 31, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Single malt? I prefer Chivas Royal Salute, personally. But I’ll never turn down a double Jack on the rocks with a water chaser.

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Money quote:
“Seriously Mr. Ron Smith, how stupid do you think the American public is?”

MechEng5by5 on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

The American public?
The same public which voted in millions to put a
marxist-jihady in the WH
and are still celebrating his coronation
Plenty of stupid going around here

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 5:00 PM

How do such idiots rise to positions of power?

Geochelone on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Well, first they drop to their knees…

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 5:00 PM

9-11 Commission ? Thanks for nothing . Gorelick and gang .

borntoraisehogs on December 31, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Her being named one of the 9/11 “Commissioners” should have been enough to tell most intelligent people that the Commission would be a joke. After all, she should have been questioned under oath.

When the evil John Ashcroft correctly noted this when he testified to the “Commission” as a witness, he was roundly booed by the Peanut Gallery of Clinton kneepads.

Another joke “Commissioner” was Richard Ben-Veniste…he had been joined to the hip with Hillary since they were both young lawyers in the Watergate hearings, and he later was the main impetus to censor the movie “The Path to 9/11″.

Del Dolemonte on December 31, 2009 at 5:03 PM

But I’ll never turn down a double Jack on the rocks with a water chaser.

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:59 PM

This just proves you have impeccable taste.

conservnut on December 31, 2009 at 5:03 PM

conservnut on December 31, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Thank you! Happy New Year!

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 5:05 PM

How do such idiots rise to positions of power?

Geochelone on December 31, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Well, first they drop to their knees…

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Then when he approves
They are good to go

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Aw come on guys, how long will it take people to learn that government employees are ineffective at almost everything they do?

Bureaucrats are all about keeping their heads down and staying out of trouble, not solving problems. Solving problems is risky. It is fraught with danger, and you could get yelled at for it.

The pyramid shaped government composed of thousands of unionized drones will never stop terrorists. It will only aid the terrorists by further terrorizing the target population.

Americans should understand this. At least people who understand American philosophy. (The fact that that philosophy is not taught to our children is one of our biggest failures.)

It’s about people, ideas and organization. We are a nation built on individual initiative and responsibility and it’s is a tragic joke that we have devolved to the point of being betrayed by an ever expanding bureaucracy.

CrazyGene on December 31, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Cheers to all you tea party birther wing nut climate denying conservatives. /sarc

This year was a “teachable moment.” Here’s hoping 2010 is going to be SWEET! Long live Hotair and thanks to the hosts, you guys do a great job. Just think of all the things we never would have heard about if it weren’t for HA. That would make a great end of the year list.

scalleywag on December 31, 2009 at 5:13 PM

it’s is a tragic joke that we have devolved to the point of being betrayed by an ever expanding bureaucracy.

CrazyGene on December 31, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Here’s to shrinkage in the bureaucracy!

scalleywag on December 31, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Dang…

Screw it all. Happy New Year, Patriot!

Liam on December 31, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Liam: Happy New Year my American bro,its been a h*lleva
year,party/hardy Liam:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 5:16 PM

So which one is Stan?

macncheez on December 31, 2009 at 4:45 PM

macncheez: When your pet goat,is riding,um,on your back,
and the guy has a smile,ear to ear,I guess,in
a Liberal mindset,um,who are we to judge,ICK!:)

canopfor on December 31, 2009 at 5:24 PM

somehow I get the feeling that the people in the state department think giving your enemy weapons to show them you trust them is a good tactic in warfare.

ThackerAgency on December 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Why do you presume that anyone at the State Dept even knows what a tactic or strategy is?

jarodea on December 31, 2009 at 5:28 PM

wow, just wow

Apparently the “informant” that blew himself up recently in Afghanistan wasn’t search prior to being allow on the base.

If true, WTF

Even when I’m playing war games on the Internet/PC – I’m more cautious; I shoot even before my eyes located the Red beacon that identifies a friendly.

father on December 31, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Kurt Haskell’s eye witness account:

Seriously think about this people. You have a suicide bomber who had recently been to Yemen to but a bomb, whose father had reported him as a terrorist, who supposedly was on some kind of U.S. terror watchlist, and most likely knew the U.S. was aware of these red flags. Yet, he didn’t go through “Normal passport checking procedures.” What does that mean? Maybe that he flashed a passport to some sort of sympathetic security manager in a backroom to avoid a closer look at the terrorist’s “red flags”? What is important is that the terrorist avoided using normal passport checking procedures (apparently successfully) in order to avoid a closer look into his red flags. Who cares if he had a passport. The important thing is that he didn’t want to show it and somehow avoided a closer inspection and “normal passport checking procedures.” Each passport comes with a bar code on it that can be scanned to provide a wealth of information about the individual. I would bet that the passport checking procedures for the terrorist did not include a bar code scan of his passport (which could have revealed damning information about the terrorist).

That tactical brain dead federal CYA security distraction is similar to the “handling” of Obama being Constitutionally disqualified to be POTUS.

maverick muse on December 31, 2009 at 5:39 PM

We need to make Obomba pay for any other attacks. How many Americans will die because of the policies of this wretched POS leftist scumbag in the White House.

elduende on December 31, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Hillary Clinton has blood all over her.

maverick muse on December 31, 2009 at 5:45 PM

I just read Haskell’s latest. Thanks for posting it.
Thank you Mr. Haskell, you are my person of the year. Your courage and no nonsene reporting are what makes America great and I have the utmost admiration for you and your wife.
Keep talking sir. You are keeping us safer than the whole huge government mess headed by BHO.
You make me proud of my Michigan roots and even prouder to be an American.

ORconservative on December 31, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Just curious. Does anyone know where Liz Cheney has been during this whole Eunuch-bomber episode? Maybe I’ve missed it, but I haven’t heard a peep.

parteagirl on December 31, 2009 at 6:25 PM

I’ve got one solution to the problem. FIRE THE ASSHOLES AND THEIR BOSSES WHO SCREWED UP! Maybe if they faced CONSEQUENCES, they’d be a little better at their jobs!

GarandFan on December 31, 2009 at 6:53 PM

The same Tom Keane who defended Gorelich’s position on the 9/11 Commission?

paul1149 on December 31, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Connect some dots, President Champ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624503147162222.html

onlineanalyst on December 31, 2009 at 7:25 PM

I’ve got one solution to the problem. FIRE THE ASSHOLES AND THEIR BOSSES WHO SCREWED UP! Maybe if they faced CONSEQUENCES, they’d be a little better at their jobs!

GarandFan on December 31, 2009 at 6:53 PM

There-in lies the problem, none of these morons can be fired.

Tim Zank on December 31, 2009 at 7:42 PM

How many feel like Obama re-broke the system to make respect for Muslims his new way to fight the war on terror?

tarpon on December 31, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Absolutely. Even a superficial examination of personnel his administration has embedded as part of an “outreach” to Muslims reveals either a naivete or a complicitness re the source of terrorism.

onlineanalyst on December 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM

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