Here we go: White House gearing up to push amnesty in 2010

posted at 3:37 pm on December 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Why not? What do they have to lose? They’ve already pissed away independents and re-energized conservatives thanks to ObamaCare. Might as well use next year to check as many boxes left on their agenda as they can before they take their beating. Amnesty, cap-and-trade, transferring Gitmo detainees to the U.S.: Pour it on and hope that progressives and Latinos will react by turning out in numbers just high enough to keep the House in Democratic hands. Even if it backfires, how bad can the damage be? They lose 35 seats instead of 30?

In fact, this may help them pass ObamaCare next month. What other way is there to read this except as a signal to Blue Dogs — and Harry Reid, whom Pelosi expects to take the lead on this — that The One’s fully prepared to sacrifice them on the altar of his liberal policy wishlist? Now they can grit their teeth, vote yes on whatever he wants them to, and fall on their swords nobly next November. We’ll miss you, Dingy.

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States…

Whatever proposal Obama puts forward will probably meet equally determined opposition. Another complication is the calendar: Midterm elections are in November, and polls show that the public is more worried about joblessness and the fragile economy than anything else.

So embracing an immigration bill is a gamble for the White House, which already has a packed agenda for 2010: economic recovery, global warming legislation and tougher regulation of financial institutions…

No one anticipates that a core element of the Democratic base will defect to the Republican Party in November. But even a significant drop in turnout — which often happens in nonpresidential elections — could frustrate Democratic efforts to preserve their congressional majority.

Ed made a smart point about this over the summer on how immigration can be used as a wedge against the GOP, splitting the McCain/Graham amnesty faction from the DeMint border-enforcement wing. Certainly true, but (a) Maverick’s going to keep a low profile this time due to his antipathy to Obama and the fact that he’s up for reelection in Arizona; (b) it’s much less appetizing for people like Grahamnesty to push a path to citizenship when unemployment is 10 percent rather than five; and (c) the growing backlash to The One’s policies, especially among indies, will pressure fencesitters who might have voted yes two years ago to vote no now. The bigger wedge, of course, will be on the left, as Democrats get a shot in the arm from Latino voters while pissing off labor interests who don’t want to have to compete with millions of newly legal workers in this economy. Will the marginal gain among the former be greater than the marginal loss among the latter? Hmmm.

Exit question: Would it make more sense to promise to do this in 2011 provided that Democrats retain control of Congress? You’d take some immediate heat off the Blue Dogs while still theoretically getting a bump among Latinos who are eager to see this bill pass. It would also avoid further feeding the anger among indies by kicking the can down the road: At the end of the day, the Dems are better off with a “They passed ObamaCare!” attack ad from the GOP than a “They passed ObamaCare and amnesty!” one.

Update: Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies. Kabuki!


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strictnein on December 30, 2009 at 3:39 PM

The bigger wedge, of course, will be on the left, as Democrats get a shot in the arm from Latino voters while pissing off labor interests who don’t want to have to compete with millions of newly legal workers in this economy.

So which labor unions are opposed to amnesty? As far as I know none of them are.

Mark1971 on December 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM

“Even if it backfires, how bad can the damage be?”

I have a feeling that Obowma has surrounded himself with a bunch of people that keep telling him that his farts don’t stink…

Seven Percent Solution on December 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM

It was inevitable. He will get us all wee-wee’d up over the health care details and slip this one by. It is his calculated, multi-front war on America.

cannonball on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Ah, the old “amnesty now” and border security as soon as can be effectively implemented (never) scam.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Obamacare is, in essence, amnesty.

SouthernGent on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

The unions may be bought off with card check.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

But weren’t a lot of Democrats and unions against the Republican bill 4 years ago too?

Or was that all just political grandstanding?

Skywise on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

There is simply no shame in these people. “Let’s just destroy this country as quickly and brazenly as possible” is clearly their motto.

search4truth on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I hope they try but it gets bogged down in the Senate. Backlash but no bill.

BadgerHawk on December 30, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Before passing an amnesty, they should pass a border enforcement bill to show that they can be trusted at securing the borders.

Much like they did with healthcare. Fix medicare before taking over the entire system.

Oh wait.

lorien1973 on December 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Hmmmmmmm … if the democrats think Americans are pissed at them over ObamaCare, wait until they try this bullshyt.

They may not even make it to 2010. The anger at them is palatable.

darwin on December 30, 2009 at 3:45 PM

They can’t really… can they… no… but really?

omriceren on December 30, 2009 at 3:45 PM

They don’t care. They know that once they get amnesty and universal healthcare, they’ll be in power forever, whether it be directly or indirectly. It may be indirectly for the next couple of years, but with all of the illegals soon to be legal, they’ll be in power again soon enough.

Obama is trying to destroy America, he doesn’t care if the people below him are sacrificed.

MobileVideoEngineer on December 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM

The brain dead voters gave the country to the radical left and it slips a little further down the sewer each day. What a sorry state of existence we’ve been doomed to endure.

rplat on December 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Perfect, the final nail in the Dim coffin.

FireBlogger on December 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Why not? What do they have to lose?

This has been the plan all along. They don’t *care* that they’ve pissed off this many people because the plan is to bring on board millions of dedicated D votes via amnesty to offset the votes they’ll otherwise lose.

This has always explained why they were gung-ho in their ‘suicide pact’ – cause it isn’t one.

Midas on December 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM

So which labor unions are opposed to amnesty? As far as I know none of them are.

Mark1971 on December 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Brotherhood of Cabbage Pickers, Local 181, maybe?

UltimateBob on December 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Exit question: Would it make more sense to promise to do this in 2011 provided that Democrats retain control of Congress?

The fact it’s on the agenda now means the DNC knows there is no 2011 for the socialists. It’s now or never.

BobMbx on December 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM

It strikes me that with so many Dhim’s apparently not worried about their re-election, they must have been assured of cushy spots in the coming bureaucratic expansion.

If you lose your seat no worries, your garaunteed an AFSCME job for life and power over the “little people” beyond your wildest dreams!

What else explains this madness?

Archimedes on December 30, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Before passing an amnesty, they should pass a border enforcement bill to show that they can be trusted at securing the borders.

lorien1973 on December 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Howabout Visas? Can they show us Visa enforcement and management.

WashJeff on December 30, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Ah, good ol’ Sharky’s Machine villian. Keep shooting all the way down. You never know, one bullet may hit before the impact on the pavement.

DrAllecon on December 30, 2009 at 3:49 PM

2010 Conservative gear up to kill PC.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM

lorien1973 on December 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Exactly.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 3:51 PM

They don’t even want to go there. That just may be the tipping point where people begin to think about violence in order to stop them. I have no problem with Hispanic citizens, but Latino activists can go to hell and shove their amnesty where the sun don’t shine.

orlandocajun on December 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM

The official union line may be pro-amnesty. But how many of the rank and file blue collar union members in Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania want it? I think the answer is few to none.

angryed on December 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM

It will be worth the cost to secure the latino vote.

2 words… BIRTH RATE.

jsunrise on December 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I can’t think of a better way to to join democrats, independents, republicans, blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, and native Americans than to shove something down our throats that’s more reviled than ObamaCare. No one wants this except the democrat leadership, their communist cronies and illegals.

Good luck dems. Start scouting out your hiding places now.

darwin on December 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Obamacare is, in essence, amnesty.

SouthernGent on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

…wrapped in Eugenics.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I have a feeling that Obowma has surrounded himself with a bunch of people that keep telling him that his farts don’t stink…

Obama has always struck me as the type of guy who sits in a room farting and trying to convince himself it smells good.

radioboyatl on December 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM

The most intelligent president ever.

Track-A-'Crat on December 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM

They can sell it as the amnesty to end all amnesties. Again.

GnuBreed on December 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Skywise on December 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM

It is politics, fighting who creates a minority voting block. The Democrats want to do it to get themselves votes. The Republicans want to do it to get themselves votes. Neitherside wants the others to do it.

Holger on December 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Latino activists can go to hell and shove their amnesty where the sun don’t shine.

orlandocajun on December 30, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Same with gay rights activists–look what tolerance brought to power–Obama’s Perverted Safe School Czar.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies.

One question the GOP needs to ask before Amnesty passes–Is the border secure?

canditaylor68 on December 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM

They can use this issue around the mid-term elections.
I’m sure SEIU and ACORN have enough funds from
the stimulus to get those 12 million illegals to vote
for the ones with D’s next to their names.

elderberry on December 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM

By moving the political focus to amnesty, the dems can go into 2010 and 2012 screaming “Republicans are racists!” The media will eat it up, the dems will probably be able to whip up a Hispanic urban riot or two, and it’ll be a winning strategy — just like it always is. The cynical bastards know damn well that the thing the GOP elite fears most is the race card. Once they’ve got Boehner and McConnell out there falling all over themselves to say “We’re not racists, but…” it’s all over. The dems want to change the narrative, and making 2010 and 2012 a referendum on race is a great place to start. Oh, the next three years with these awful people in power are going to be just wonderful for this nation. Just wonderful.

Rational Thought on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States…

Read: New voting block

What better way for the National Socialist Democrats to stay in power, bring on board a whole new slew of voters.

Does it seem like they even Care about what the taxpayers want anymore?

Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

The timing is off – here in southern California, anyway. Immigrants primarily from Mexico and secondarily from Central America, who are at the bottom of the economic rung, can’t find work and have returned to their native lands in large numbers. They work to send money home, so amnesty without paying jobs probably won’t be enough to make them return.

Terrie on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

The brain dead voters gave the country to the radical left and it slips a little further down the sewer each day. What a sorry state of existence we’ve been doomed to endure.

Calm down. With 54% of the entire population voting in 2008 and 53% of them breaking for Obama, the next cycle is wide open. I know one of my kids that has never paid attention is now a letter writing voter that keeps politics at the top of his conversation list and I’m betting that is occuring all across the country. It ain’t gonna be hopenchange for Obama that energizes the next election.

DanMan on December 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM

This actually makes sense to me, examining it strategically from Obamacornseiu’s point of view: Ramming through shamnesty (and they will have the help of useful idiots like Lindsey “I’m in the gang” Ghrahmnesty will open up millions upon millions of potential legal and illegal voters which they can use to “save” their congressional majority.

Which leaves a legitimate and open question: Will the 2010 elections be honest? My thoughts: no. Indeed, we haven’t HAD an election without significant fraud in over a decade. We not only have to defeat the democrat candidate, we have to defeat the margin of fraud in the vote.

wildcat84 on December 30, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Read: New voting block

What better way for the National Socialist Democrats to stay in power, bring on board a whole new slew of voters.Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

True but after they all go through the trouble of getting amnesty, do you think they will appreciate having their jobs taken by more illegals?

canditaylor68 on December 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I guess this bho needed something to take the heat off him on the terror thing. Just keep putting out all these endless things to tick people off! The right hand is doing the left hand thing.
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letget on December 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Nothing like telegraphing their intentions, might as well put up signs along the border–No Shoes, No Shirts, No Sweat we are open 24/7.

fourdeucer on December 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies. Kabuki!

Who says Latinos are a monolithic voting group~they voted R one election, D the next……they’re not as loyal lapdogs to the dems as the black vote.
I say, bring it~it’s just another nail in the coffin.

And, maverick and grahamesty~please see obama’s perverted safe school czar for instructions.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM

One question the GOP needs to ask before Amnesty passes–Is the border secure?
canditaylor68 on December 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Neal Boortz has a wonderful analogy to the immigration amnesty issue:

It’s all analogous to having a pipe break in you house – question is, do you clean up the mess from the water, or do you fix the broken pipe first?

Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Pull out prison inmate records–count the illegal aliens in proportion to the inmate population of US citizens.

Deal with criminals at the BORDER before they enter. And do not give illegal aliens the benefit of any doubt since they CHOSE to break the law and to abuse the American legal, medical, housing and educational systems for their own gain at tax payer expense.

It would be cheaper to build and to staff schools and public housing on the Mexican side of the border than to allow them into the US. As per factories, however, those won’t do better than Toyota’s effort to build cars in Mexico employing Mexicans: Toyota does not build cars there any more.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Intead of illegals going to the back of the line (behind legals), as was proposed in the prior Shamnesty, no doubt they will be fast-tracked so they’re citizens by 2012.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Fake8, the broken pipe being the open borders.

Note well, Democrats absconded with the Congressional funding for the border fence. Prosecute legislators and the Chief Executive for misappropriation of tax funds.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Worse, Harry Reid’s press secretary promised that future Congress’ would be able to tweak this bill until it is the program Democrats really want. It needs to be stopped.

Jvette on December 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Before passing an amnesty, they should pass a border enforcement bill to show that they can be trusted at securing the borders.

lorien1973 on December 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Uh, this president is not real big on history…just ‘historical’ things.
Not even from 1986…..he was still Barry and snorting things, I’m sure.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Read: New voting block
What better way for the National Socialist Democrats to stay in power, bring on board a whole new slew of voters.Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

True but after they all go through the trouble of getting amnesty, do you think they will appreciate having their jobs taken by more illegals?
canditaylor68 on December 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

They may not consider that, and even if they do, the National Socialists will just offer more goodies for them to lap up.

Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM

If we can’t secure our air “borders”, how can we secure hundreds of miles of land and sea borders?

Hope the GOP, a/k/a/ the Stupid Party, has enough smarts to make this a national security issue, as well as an economics/jobs issue. Well, some of the GOP may.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM

They’re going to do it. They’re going to do Cap & Trade. They are going to do everything they can. Scott Brown, you’re our only hope?

LibTired on December 30, 2009 at 4:05 PM

Worse, Harry Reid’s press secretary promised that future Congress’ would be able to tweak this bill until it is the program Democrats really want. It needs to be stopped.

Jvette on December 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

OOOPS! Posted on wrong thread. Sorry.

Jvette on December 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Worse, Harry Reid’s press secretary promised that future Congress’ would be able to tweak this bill until it is the program Democrats really want. It needs to be stopped.

Jvette on December 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

So they start out small, with something Blue Dogs and RINOs can sign onto, and then expand.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I think the joke will be on the democrats~
Most of the illegal aliens, mostly from Mexico, don’t WANT to be citizens of the US….they can get their welfare, subsidized housing, citizenship for their anchor babies, and free healthcare now.
If they are citizens, they will have to contribute to all the entitlements and they may go to jail if they don’t have insurance.
They have allegience to their homeland~they just suckle off our teats and then send the money back home.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Fake8, the broken pipe being the open borders.
Note well, Democrats absconded with the Congressional funding for the border fence. Prosecute legislators and the Chief Executive for misappropriation of tax funds.
maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Yes, we’re getting a flood of what the Dems would call ‘new voters’, we need to stop the flood before we even try to fix the damage.

Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM

that’ll be a real f*ck of a cluster

blatantblue on December 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Intead of illegals going to the back of the line (behind legals), as was proposed in the prior Shamnesty, no doubt they will be fast-tracked so they’re citizens by 2012.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM

There is no “line”. There are about 100 different lines for different people with different situations. Illegals would have a 101st line created for them. There would be no “back of the line” and no “front of the line”. It would however mean the other 100 lines would move slower since it would be the same number of USCIS employees processing.

Besides given how slowly the bureaucracy works if amnesty passes in 2010, the first wave of voters wouldn’t be eligible to vote (legally anyway) until about 2015.

angryed on December 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Ozzie Osborne! Calling Ozzie!

“We’re going off the rails on a crazy train…..”

Intrepid on December 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM

They may want to use this as a wedge issue, but I am not sure it will work that way. Obama thought that the legislation in the Senate in 2006 was too tough on illegals, it did not go far enough in granting them amnesty and required too much in terms of taxes and fines etc…so I am not sure that the people who supported that legislation will feel compelled to support anything Obama pushes. It might turn out like the cap and trade thing, too far left for these guys who are playing with fire by supporting any kind of pathway to citizenship.

I wonder where Palin will be on this issue, she supported immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship before..however, she did say that border security took precedence.

I guess we will find out soon enough.

Terrye on December 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM

that The One’s fully prepared to sacrifice them on the altar of his liberal policy wishlist?

This is not a “liberal policy wishlist”. It’s a “kill America wishlist”. The difference is slight but significant. Unfortunately, most don’t seem to understand that. The Precedent doesn’t give a sh#t about policy. All he wants is to destroy the US. Leftist policies are the best way to accomplish that, but leftism is not The Precedent’s goal. National destruction and pain is. I thought this would have been obvious to all, by now.

neurosculptor on December 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM

I do not believe that you know what you’re talking about, speaking rationally rather than practically. Perhaps things are different where you live. However, Hispanics throughout the Southwest vote culturally in a block within the Democrat Party, and are rewarded with power in that party. Their intellectuals try to enlighten their populace to no avail. It’s a Hispanic Democratic tradition here, with bribes to maintain ties.

I could be wrong. But I’ve been paying attention to this for years.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Immigrants primarily from Mexico and secondarily from Central America, who are at the bottom of the economic rung, can’t find work and have returned to their native lands in large numbers.

They’ll be back, walkin/driving through an open border with an iphone app is not difficult

They work to send money home, so amnesty without paying jobs probably won’t be enough to make them return.

Most of them don’t work. They are not here to work. Anchor babies are meal-tickets. Anchor babies make them eligible for welfare, food-stamps, free education, free housing , free medical, free public -defenders etc.

Terrie on December 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Obamacare guarantees a Republican House. Amnesty could guarantee a Republican Senate. Maybe this is about 2012 and Obama running on a divided government platform.

Whatever the White House does it’s only about the reelection. He knows that people will be dancing in the streets when he has to leave the White House.

I know I’ll be!

EMD on December 30, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Yes, we’re getting a flood of what the Dems would call ‘new voters’, we need to stop the flood before we even try to fix the damage.

Fake8 on December 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Speaking of which, CYA Democrats in Congress want to prosecute the two who exposed the ACORN corruption.

And this AG Holder will prevent all prosecution of Democratic corruption while ordering retirement from Inspector Generals with the goods on Obama’s FRAUDS.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Bring it on

I am sure with 1/3 of the unemployment population being democrats this will go over well. Can you say lower approval rating than Bush in less than 2 years.

This reminds me of a quote I saw today from our President:

President Obama wrote in his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” that “I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them.”

Sanmon on December 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM

They work to send money home, so amnesty without paying jobs probably won’t be enough to make them return.

Most of them don’t work. They are not here to work.

Of course you’re right about the Mexican mothers and children. However, open your eyes where day laborers congregate.

There are a lot of single Mexican men who leave their families home, and share one house amongst 12 or so men, sending their money home to families.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM

It’s pretty funny (in a black comedy way) that the ad to the right of this article currently has a picture of Hillary, W, and Giggles with the message “Who is the US President? Answer for a chance to win a green card to USA!!”

crazy_legs on December 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I could be wrong. But I’ve been paying attention to this for years.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I asked my American of Spanish/Mexican descent side, from my white side, what I thought about Amnesty….We both agreed it was bad.
No, I’m just saying that there are stupid people in the Hispanic community that will think amnesty will be good for this country, but there are some hispanics that are aware that it will spell trouble to have a large group of people that have no loyalty to the United States popping out kids at an alarming rate, with little education and no skills getting citizenship.
I understand where you are coming from, though.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM

The first amnesty provoked the most remarkable grassroots activist surge in modern American history in which ordinary citizens beat back the combined force of the White House, giant corporate interests, the Left, the media and entertainment industies, and academia — indeed, the entire establishment culture. And that was during relatively good economic times.

If this plan is true, it only points out the dogma and desperation and lack of political savvy and imagination of the Left.

rrpjr on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

single: married Mexican male workers who come here stag.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Obama never campaigmed on amnesty. He was always talking about the parameters.

I was surprised Latinos voted for him.

I do agree that it’s a good way to turn people off from the GOP.

It brings out racism and other yucky stuff.

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Just stealing the jobs Americans used to have -0- I bet that will go over big.

One thing I have never understood is why Mexicans leave a socialist shit-pile to join another socialist shit pile in the guise of the Democrat party. I guess you don’t have to be smart to walk.

tarpon on December 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM

By moving the political focus to amnesty, the dems can go into 2010 and 2012 screaming “Republicans are racists!” The media will eat it up, the dems will probably be able to whip up a Hispanic urban riot or two, and it’ll be a winning strategy — just like it always is.

Oh, they’ll try it. But I think the common folk are getting tired of being called RAAAAAAACIST every time they disagree with the Administration and this Congress.

crazy_legs on December 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Intead of illegals going to the back of the line (behind legals), as was proposed in the prior Shamnesty, no doubt they will be fast-tracked so they’re citizens by 2012 election 2010.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM

FIFY

Midas on December 30, 2009 at 4:19 PM

“I guess you don’t have to be smart to walk.”

They aren’t dumber than Americans who refuse to think about where their “fwee NUMNUMS!” come from.

ebrown2 on December 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM

I have friends in LA who have been working on getting into the country for over 10 years.

I mean, we can let in every Tom, Dick and Harry Al Qaida member!

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Provide a path to citizenship?

The supporters last time claimed that the illegals would have to go to the end of the line.

Lets see if they mean it, offer an amendment stating that no one granted amnesty shall become a citizen until after all of with current applications to enter have been processed, allowed to enter, have met conditions for and become citizens.

agmartin on December 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM

I do agree that it’s a good way to turn people off from the GOP.

It brings out the stupidity of the MSM since it will portray GOP and conservatives as racist and other yucky stuff.

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

FIFY

WashJeff on December 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM

there are stupid people in the Hispanic community that will think amnesty will be good for this country, but there are some hispanics that are aware that it will spell trouble to have a large group of people that have no loyalty to the United States–HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Hispanic or not, you’re right that a lot of stupid people will assume that amnesty sounds nice.

Your point regarding Hispanic legal immigrants is very valid. They realize with anger the problems that amnesty will propagate, unjustly burdening them and everyone else with growing malcontents who align with Marx against American justice. To sacrifice so much, leaving their homes and extended families, to come legally to the USA, only to have the American Dream become the Obama Nightmare from Pennsylvania Ave.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM

“I mean, we can let in every Tom, Dick and Harry Al Qaida member!”

That’s because it isn’t in the elite’s interest to expand LEGAL immigrants, who are, for the most part Americans accidentally born in the wrong country.

ebrown2 on December 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Workin workin workin
Cloward-Piven workin

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

It brings out racism and other yucky stuff.

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

You’ve been infected with the PC virus. Talking about millions of people invading the country illegally is not racism.

darwin on December 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

There is only so much the American people will take before they start pushing back.And friends we are as close to that point as we have been in 200+ years.There are people i trust that are in the know that will tell you off the record that the 2010 election is going to be a blood bath for the Dems.Some are saying privately that the dems could loose 80+ seats in the house.

thmcbb on December 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Provide a path to citizenship?

agmartin

There already is a legal path to citizenship.

The Democrats want to close that road, and tear down any semblance of a national border.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

darwin on December 30, 2009 at 4:24 PM

She tainted herself with racism and other yucky stuff.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM

The labor unions WANT the 12 million illegals, because it will add to their base! Duh!

Star20 on December 30, 2009 at 4:26 PM

I’m a Latina and I say HELL NO to amnesty.
Besides Marco Rubio will be the face of the senate GOP and he will be against amnesty.
All the democrats have is Bob Menendez, and no one cares about that doofus.

cubachi on December 30, 2009 at 4:26 PM

The only Latinos who want amnesty are illegals.

cubachi on December 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

That’s because it isn’t in the elite’s interest to expand LEGAL immigrants, who are, for the most part Americans accidentally born in the wrong country.

ebrown2 on December 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Actually, the “conservative” Sen. Orrin Hatch R-UT, McCain, et.al. sponsored legislation to increase the legal immigration of green card professionals willing to work for lower than cost of living wages that Americans get laid off rather than get paid.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

What is racist about not wanting to add to 10% unemployment or contribute to the failing hospitals due to increased ER care (isn’t that something you continually complain about?)

ladyingray on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Jeez, they’re really going for broke, aren’t they? Maybe Obama will start pressuring banks to start foreclosing on people’s homes so he’ll have houses he can use to bribe these non-Americans into voting for Democrats? Maybe that’s a bit over the top but after a while you just come to expect our would-be overlords to contemplate corrupt sh!t like that.

Is ACORN still doing the census next year?

Aitch748 on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Absolutely the worst Congress and undeniably the worst President of the United States, ever.

SilverStar830 on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

The only Latinos who want amnesty are illegals.

cubachi on December 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

BINGO

And the only politicians who want amnesty are crooks.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies. Kabuki!

How could Obama blame Republicans if they don’t have enough Senators to filibuster? If it fails to pass the Senate, Republicans can always say that some Democrats also blocked it!

Steve Z on December 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM

it’s much less appetizing for people like Grahamnesty to push a path to citizenship when unemployment is 10 percent rather than five

Unemployment among construction workers is even higher.

It brings out false accusations of racism.

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Attribute all the motivations of racism you want, it doesn’t make them true. The modern GOP has always been the “law and order” party against the Dems’ anarchist and revolutionary wings. If the people sneaking into the country were white, I doubt there’d be much difference in the GOP reaction, all things being equal.

venividivici on December 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

ladyingray on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

The only racism is hers, throwing out the word as if to terrorize conservatives into submission.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

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