Here we go: White House gearing up to push amnesty in 2010

posted at 3:37 pm on December 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Why not? What do they have to lose? They’ve already pissed away independents and re-energized conservatives thanks to ObamaCare. Might as well use next year to check as many boxes left on their agenda as they can before they take their beating. Amnesty, cap-and-trade, transferring Gitmo detainees to the U.S.: Pour it on and hope that progressives and Latinos will react by turning out in numbers just high enough to keep the House in Democratic hands. Even if it backfires, how bad can the damage be? They lose 35 seats instead of 30?

In fact, this may help them pass ObamaCare next month. What other way is there to read this except as a signal to Blue Dogs — and Harry Reid, whom Pelosi expects to take the lead on this — that The One’s fully prepared to sacrifice them on the altar of his liberal policy wishlist? Now they can grit their teeth, vote yes on whatever he wants them to, and fall on their swords nobly next November. We’ll miss you, Dingy.

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States…

Whatever proposal Obama puts forward will probably meet equally determined opposition. Another complication is the calendar: Midterm elections are in November, and polls show that the public is more worried about joblessness and the fragile economy than anything else.

So embracing an immigration bill is a gamble for the White House, which already has a packed agenda for 2010: economic recovery, global warming legislation and tougher regulation of financial institutions…

No one anticipates that a core element of the Democratic base will defect to the Republican Party in November. But even a significant drop in turnout — which often happens in nonpresidential elections — could frustrate Democratic efforts to preserve their congressional majority.

Ed made a smart point about this over the summer on how immigration can be used as a wedge against the GOP, splitting the McCain/Graham amnesty faction from the DeMint border-enforcement wing. Certainly true, but (a) Maverick’s going to keep a low profile this time due to his antipathy to Obama and the fact that he’s up for reelection in Arizona; (b) it’s much less appetizing for people like Grahamnesty to push a path to citizenship when unemployment is 10 percent rather than five; and (c) the growing backlash to The One’s policies, especially among indies, will pressure fencesitters who might have voted yes two years ago to vote no now. The bigger wedge, of course, will be on the left, as Democrats get a shot in the arm from Latino voters while pissing off labor interests who don’t want to have to compete with millions of newly legal workers in this economy. Will the marginal gain among the former be greater than the marginal loss among the latter? Hmmm.

Exit question: Would it make more sense to promise to do this in 2011 provided that Democrats retain control of Congress? You’d take some immediate heat off the Blue Dogs while still theoretically getting a bump among Latinos who are eager to see this bill pass. It would also avoid further feeding the anger among indies by kicking the can down the road: At the end of the day, the Dems are better off with a “They passed ObamaCare!” attack ad from the GOP than a “They passed ObamaCare and amnesty!” one.

Update: Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies. Kabuki!


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The Harry Reid Payback and Bailout Act of 2010.

Nobody else needs a massive turnout of Latino voters in 2010. And nobody is owed more by Obama right now.

rockmom on December 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM

The only Latinos who want amnesty are illegals.

cubachi on December 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Unfortunately that’s not correct, and there are a f@#$-ton of non-hispanic dems/libs in this country that think making all of the illegals legal instantly is the ‘right thing to do’. Some want to do so because they think/know it will bring a huge block of votes to the party seen as being the one to make it happen, and some are, well, just stupid.

Midas on December 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

ladyingray on December 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

The only racism is hers, throwing out the word as if to terrorize conservatives into submission.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM

The only thing Ann throws is feces.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

looks like they’re angling to be crushed 70 – 30 instead of 60 – 40

notagool on December 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM

It was so much fun the last time around. Why not try it again?

Can’t imagine this is going to fly given the mood of taxpaying citizens.

Cody1991 on December 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Heh. Glad you’re back!

ladyingray on December 30, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Possible exit answer: Obama knows it won’t pass the Senate and wants to get it over with now so that he can blame the GOP and reassure Latinos that he tried his best. In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans — and comparatively little anger among labor and indies. Kabuki!

How could Obama blame Republicans if they don’t have enough Senators to filibuster? If it fails to pass the Senate, Republicans can always say that some Democrats also blocked it!

Steve Z on December 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Can’t blame Republicans since McCain and Bush both pushed as hard as possible to make amnesty happen for ILLEGAL ALIENS.

It’s an American thing, wanting people to be responsible and legitimate citizens. Liberalism has always been a financial burden. WE ARE BANKRUPT NOW. Our fiscal ruin is real. There is no more room at the Inn for illegal aliens to keep coming and propagating without making their financial contributions achieving self sustenance. They need to love their own homelands and make their dreams come true there.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

In that case, you’ll still have high Latino turnout — to punish Republicans …

Only if illegals can continue to vote.

The only Latinos who want amnesty are illegals.

I hope you’re right.

BacaDog on December 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Oh boy. This might light the torches.

marklmail on December 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Wouldn’t it be great to have an articulate and smart Latino senator for the GOP who can lead against amnesty?
Sure we have Marco Rubio. Yet the idiots of the NRSC support Charlie Crist.

cubachi on December 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

With unemployment this high, I think this will absolutely finish waking up some of the slower among us.

Gulfcoastconservative on December 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Haven’t seen you in a while. Glad you’re back!

Cody1991 on December 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Why would Graham be less willing to push Amnesty now than in 2006 or 2007? He was up for reelection in 2008 and won against a Democrat who was actually a Republican to whom the Democrats gave no money. His seat is safe for 6 years. From what I understand, Senator Graham might already be working on a Bill with Senator Shumer.

Conservative in NOVA on December 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Unfortunately that’s not correct..
Midas on December 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

It’s a little old, but last I knew, it hadn’t changed much.

An amnesty does not appear to be a way of winning Hispanic votes for either party, with 51 percent of respondents identifying it is a bad idea and 49 percent thinking it’s a good idea. When asked how it might affect their vote, twice as many Hispanics in the survey (33 percent) said they would be less likely to vote for Bush in 2004 if he supported an amnesty compared to 15 percent who said they would be more likely to vote for him. The same basic pattern exists for Democratic candidates, with 36 percent of Hispanics saying they would be less likely to vote for a Democrat in Congress who supports an amnesty and 20 percent indicating they would be more likely to vote for a Democrat who supports amnesty.

http://www.cis.org/ZogbyPoll-ConstituencyAttitudesTowardAmnesty

mwdiver on December 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

They may not even make it to 2010

Right. If this keeps up, Dem congresscritters will be getting beaten up in the streets. Frankly, I can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

Dirty Creature on December 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

how can dear leader blame the GOP when the dems control congress?

cmsinaz on December 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

If you lose your seat no worries, your garaunteed an AFSCME job for life and power over the “little people” beyond your wildest dreams!

What else explains this madness?

Archimedes on December 30, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Watch for the uptick in federally funded Pogressive Think Tanks.

heshtesh on December 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Right. If this keeps up, Dem congresscritters will be getting beaten up in the streets. Frankly, I can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

Dirty Creature on December 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

All the nuts are on ‘their’ side.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Schumer-Graham bill.

Wethal on December 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Good. Let McCain and Grahmnesty stand shoulder to shoulder with Obama. Worked wonders for Crist….. tag em and bag em baby.

JeffinOrlando on December 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM

They need to love their own homelands and make their dreams come true there.

maverick muse on December 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Yep. It isn’t as though there is no model.

If special interest groups and our politicians weren’t so craven, someone would have bitch-slapped the Mexican government for blatantly abusing their own people. Really, what can one say about a country that gladly exports 10-15% (approx.) of its own citizens? And what can one say when a larger percentage of its citizens will do anything to escape elsewhere? Disgusting.

The truth is that they don’t want them, so they dump them in our backyard – literally – and then scream that it’s our responsibility to take care of them.

Cody1991 on December 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM

With this kind of crap coming down the pipeline, it might be nice to secure a 41st vote in the US Senate, no?

(Hint – MA Special Senate election on January 19th.)

gopmom on December 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

From what I understand, Senator Graham might already be working on a Bill with Senator Shumer.

Conservative in NOVA on December 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

dear leader can claim bipartisanship now

ugh

cmsinaz on December 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

In light of a terrorist who just entered our country unnoticed, perhaps the American people will think twice about supporting amnesty.

kcarpenter on December 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Personally, I envision this will be coordinated and well organized by the DNC. I can’t wait for the telecast of all Obama’s town hall meetings on this one. Will these participants be as well screened as his health care town hall meetings were? I can see many shades of purple buses touring with unique rainbow flags on their antennae as the town hall meetings take place across the country.

Maybe this is just another White House head fake which will be measured in the future as a distraction. The president has hinted that 2010 was to be a hard pivot toward the creation of more american jobs. The problem with Obama’s statements is that they usually come with an expiration date anyway. Could this be another trial balloon? If it is, then expect this issue to be tabled just like most of his promises. This guy will be voting present as soon as he realizes that he was against this before he was for it.

Americannodash on December 30, 2009 at 4:51 PM

In light of a terrorist who just entered our country unnoticed, perhaps the American people will think twice about supporting amnesty.

kcarpenter on December 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

How does it matter to Obama what the American people think?
Its never stopped him before, it won’t stop him now.
They’ll get over it, he won

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

To those that think the Dems will go hell for leather regardless of public opinion, just remember that even though many of them may do just that, the Dear Reader has a serious flaw that we are just beginning to see the effects of: he just can’t stand not being adored. He has never done a tough thing that earned him public approbation in his life – he is the perpetual hero, up til now.

As the chorus of public discontent increases, he will not have the stomach for enduring it the way GWB did. Nor does he have the moral compass of GWB to give him faith that he is right. The man is for folding.

drunyan8315 on December 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Having emigrated LEGALLY to Canada, and then my huband immigrating LEGALLY to the U.S., and having paid attention to what other LEGAL immigrates were saying during the last amnesty debate, those of us who have followed the rules have NO sympathy for those who don’t. I agree with “the only Latinos who want amnesty are the illegals”. Sounds very true to me.

parteagirl on December 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Low life sellout politicians everywhere in the West try, as a matter of standard procedure, to encourage immigration (legal & otherwise) from 3ird world countries that the majority doesn’t want here, and give amnesty to the illegals knowing they are buying minority votes in the short term and guaranteeing their discredited party will stay in power in the future. I think of them as stealth traitors.

Chessplayer on December 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

How does it matter to Obama what the American people think?
Its never stopped him before, it won’t stop him now.

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM
That’s right. In fact, The PRecedent prefers doing things that Americans absolutely hate. All he wants to do is sow chaos and going against the public will is the most effective means.

The Precedent and the US will not both emerge from his tenure intact. At some point, this nation is going to have to make a hard decision and act on it.

neurosculptor on December 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM

parteagirl on December 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

We need to hear from more LEGAL immigrants that jumped through all the hoops, paid their way, and did it legally! I think THAT would wake a lot of people up and show what La Raza and groups like that are all about~the MONEY.

BTW, Welcome to the party, Tea!

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

mwdiver on December 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

I’ll check that link, but it would seem to be addressing how Hispanic *voters* (eg: current citizens) would react and vote – not how the newly minted and grateful citizens would react and vote.

Midas on December 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Amnesty isn’t universally popular among the left. It hasn’t passed in California, and this place is destination numero uno (or dos) for Mexican illeglal immigrants. John and Ken at KFI will work overtime if Obama dares even partial amnesty.

I’m open to some sort of conditional amnesty, because not all “illegals” are Mexicans operating in the shadows. Most Asians fly in here legally then overstay their visas or just settle down without applying for a green card. Some of them are actually wealthy.

Mad Kimchi on December 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

How funny would it be if amnesty passed and the majority of illegals voted Republican?

txag92 on December 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

I just can’t take anymore. This crap is just nuts.

bernzright777 on December 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

…not how the newly minted and grateful citizens would react and vote.Midas on December 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

I would probably agree with that sentiment, but, by my reading of the post, it was referring to the

Hispanic *voters* (eg: current citizens) would react and vote…

there are a f@#$-ton of non-hispanic dems/libs in this country that think making all of the illegals legal instantly is the ‘right thing to do’. Some want to do so because they think/know it will bring a huge block of votes to the party seen as being the one to make it happen, and some are, well, just stupid.

mwdiver on December 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM

All the nuts are on ‘their’ side.

Well, the nuts are… but there is a saying I always liked, “Beware the anger of patient men”. When the time comes, they don’t hold back. Even Christ overturned the tables of the moneychangers.

Dirty Creature on December 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

It brings out racism and other yucky stuff.

AnninCA on December 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Drop the “r” word: it’s lost its charm. As for “yucky stuff”, do you mean trivial matters like the rule of law and following clearly defined procedures to immigrate to this country and to obtain citizenship that have been around for, oh, decades now? That “yucky stuff”?

ya2daup on December 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Having emigrated LEGALLY to Canada, and then my huband immigrating LEGALLY to the U.S., and having paid attention to what other LEGAL immigrates were saying during the last amnesty debate, those of us who have followed the rules have NO sympathy for those who don’t. I agree with “the only Latinos who want amnesty are the illegals”. Sounds very true to me.

parteagirl on December 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

My Canadian wife who went through all of the legal processes to become a US citizen agrees with this 100%.

thomasaur on December 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Great idea!!!
Another chance for liberals to call everybody a “racist” that does not agree with them.

Amnesty was not a winner when we had a 460 billion dollar deficit,4.5% unemployment,and 3-5% GDP.

Now that the deficit is about 2 trillion,unemployment is over 10%,and we can’t get a positive GDP number unless we have government (tax payer) cash give aways,I don’t see this working out well for the democrats at all.

America is screaming about jobs,massive debt,and national security and all the democrats can do is push their far left agenda, which does not address any of these hot button issues.

This will certainly shine a light on our boarder states and the massive debt and crime that they have incurred with all the illegal immigration.

It is also going to be hilarious watching liberals square the circle of National security by demanding we tighten up our surveillance of our Ports and Airports but leave a big a$$ hole there on the boarder with Mexico for the jihadist to come over along with all the gangs and drug dealers with their “open boarders” policies.

I don’t think the democratic line “these are jobs Americans won’t do” is going to fly with over 10% unemployment.

“Yes We Can”

Baxter Greene on December 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM

How funny would it be if amnesty passed and the majority of illegals voted Republican?

txag92 on December 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

They’d still get free stuff, just not as much.

thomasaur on December 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM

It’ll be interesting to see what McCain does with the immigration issue. He has a 2010 primary challenge from an opponent who is solid on border enforcement and immigration control (J.D. Hayworth). See how this rock, this man-of-steel flips and then flops.

It’s rarely advantageous to bump off incumbents in the party primary, but this could be the year to upgrade. We can do better in AZ.

exdeadhead on December 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Even if it backfires, how bad can the damage be? They lose 35 seats instead of 30?

They lose power for 40 years.

unseen on December 30, 2009 at 5:26 PM

No one anticipates that a core element of the Democratic base will defect to the Republican Party in November.

ROFL they have no idea of the anger out here in flyover country. It is just a bit shy of tar and feathers anger and they think that the conservative dems are not going to vote GOP this time around. i want what this writer is smoking.

the dems will be lucky to get 35% of the national vote in 2010.

unseen on December 30, 2009 at 5:29 PM

wait till the union member understand that Obamacare sold them down the river in order to pad the Management’s pocket.

unseen on December 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Let’s not insult the Latinos; I think they – as with most Americans – are onto Obama’s ways. Let’s hope they don’t hold their noses and vote Dem in 2010.

redfoxbluestate on December 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

This is good news for our side. :)

More sauce for the goose!

This could well put Democrats out of business for generations – at least here in the South.

I can’t even believe that we were debating a few months ago about whether or not to call these people Socialists … hell – they are that and much worse. And the MSM has been fussing about the GOP cutting loose the RINOS? Hell – the Democrats are cutting loose all their moderates!

If they really push this amnesty thing – and continue on the course with passing ObamaCare – you’re going to see a bloodletting in the Democratic Party before the campaigns for next year even begin! You are going to see mass “retirements” and “party changes”. I’m wondering now just how much the Blue Dogs can take before they start turning RED.

If the GOP is smart – they’ll start talking to these Blue Dogs and negotiating with them NOW. No, I don’t really want to see them turn Republican – but for a moral victory that crushes the liberal spirit – I’d like to see more of a handful do exactly that. The response from the Democratic base will be to move farther to the left – and hell, they may even come out of the closet and change their name to “SOCIALIST”.

Which is what they are.

HondaV65 on December 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States…

There are people who still believe Obama promises?

jarodea on December 30, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Who says Latinos are a monolithic voting group~they voted R one election, D the next……they’re not as loyal lapdogs to the dems as the black vote.
I say, bring it~it’s just another nail in the coffin.

And, maverick and grahamesty~please see obama’s perverted safe school czar for instructions.

HornetSting on December 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Great point, hornetsting. The way to the hispanic vote is through their faith, love of family and aversion to perversion.

If a strong leader gets out there and speaks to them about obama’s culture of death, obama’s love of the horror and racism of abortion, obama’s desire to put school-house pedophiles in charge of their children, obama’s death panels for their parents and grandparents – if this message gets to the Hispanics in this country, and if the message of conservative, life priniciples is given to them, I think they would desert obama in droves, and in fact could become his worst enemy.

The Latin culture is VERY protective of their family life and their children, as it should be. They just need to be informed and organized – they can be the catalyst in throwing the treasonous traitor-in-cheif out. Oh, the irony.

tigerlily on December 30, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Last poll I read on this subject (admittedly quite some time ago) had the Latinos pretty evenly split on amnesty. And total opposition at around 70%. This is not the big vote getter that the amnesty activists like to portray it as.

LarryD on December 30, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Let’s not insult the Latinos; I think they – as with most Americans – are onto Obama’s ways. Let’s hope they don’t hold their noses and vote Dem in 2010.

redfoxbluestate on December 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I know one person who is from mexico and their family got amnesty in 1986. They hate , actually hate anything and everything republican, conservative, pro-American and have vile contempt for our constitution.
I asked them why because it was a white republican ( Prez Reagan) who gave them their amnesty
and I was informed that they will always be mexicans first and always. Being a US citizen just defines their rights and immigration status, not their allegiance and obligations!

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Well, given the logic of Democrats on this issue, I see no reason that all of us cannot start immediately robbing banks. All of us. Sure, it’s illegal, but then again so is coming into this country outside the proper channels of immigration.

So if they are going to do something illegal and then be granted amnesty for it, why can’t Americans now rob banks and supermarkets and expect the same amnesty? Is it simply a matter of quantity of people committing the crime? Don’t both illegal acts represent a person’s attempt at a better life?

Because it certainly can’t be about courting a voter base. Because, well, that would be sort of illegal, no? Allowing someone to break the law in order to garner a vote for your reelection.

Either our laws mean something or they mean nothing. A wise lawmaker would see the folly of planting a foot on this slippery slope.

Thunderstorm129 on December 30, 2009 at 5:57 PM

THEY GET THIS PASSED, AND 2010 WILL BE A DEM BLOWOUT….AND PERPETUAL RULE.

Wait until the GOP falls freaking all OVER ITSELF to pass this!!!!!

Let’s not forget Amigo George W. BUUUUUsssh was all over this travesty for the nation. He pitched a fit for Amnesty and his business bought and paid for cronies in the GOP fought hard for it.

You think the Conservatives were outraged about this one?

You think the Caliphs’ poll numbers are in the crapper now?

Wait until these 25 million new ACORN Census approved voters get to vote in 2010….and 75% of them vote for the DEMOCRATS!!!!!

Barring a major miracle for this country….IT IS OVER!!!!

PappyD61 on December 30, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Does this amnesty just cover Latinos? Seems to be a lot of other types here illegally. Chinese. Pakistanis. Iranians. Afghans. Somalis. These are on the general listing of illegals here now, among others who are not Latino. So, in order to capture a larger percentage of the La Raza vote, this Administration is about to make any and all illegals who are here now legal?

coldwarrior on December 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Not wedges – wedgies – stop getting all wee wee’d up would ya?

bbh on December 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Is there anything in The Constitution that prohibits one party from holding every seat in either the house or senate?

Oldnuke on December 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM

These idiots truly aspire to be driven out with pitchforks and torches, don’t they?

kingsjester on December 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Oldnuke on December 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Nope. Political parties are not mentioned at all in the Constitution. Party politics came shortly after we moved to a Constitutional form of government.

coldwarrior on December 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Buyers remorse for the next 3 years as well for all those loser that voted for Obama…

I heard one guy on Foxnews, conservative finance guy, say that he voted for Obama because of Rosa Parks…

What?, O-scumbag isn’t black!

People are so stupid.

Obama is Arab and white.

Anyhow, on barber shop the movie they threw Rosa under the bus.

“Rosa Parks didn’t do nothin’ but sit on
her Black A_ _.”

father on December 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM

I know one person who is from mexico and their family got amnesty in 1986. They hate , actually hate anything and everything republican, conservative, pro-American and have vile contempt for our constitution.

I asked them why because it was a white republican ( Prez Reagan) who gave them their amnesty and I was informed that they will always be mexicans first and always. Being a US citizen just defines their rights and immigration status, not their allegiance and obligations!

macncheez on December 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Are you basing all your assumptions about an entire culture on one person?

My Mexican in laws voted Republican in 2008 for the first time ever because they cannot stand Obama. They all received their green cards in 1986 and remember Reagan fondly. My father-in-law worked 3 jobs to take care of his family, including the night shift in a slaughterhouse, until they were old enough to work themselves. But I am not basing all my assumptions on one family.

My experience living in multicultural SoCal is that Hispanic immigrants – like all first generation immigrants in our nation’s history who arrive in search of a better life for their families, including my German grandparents – cling to their culture for security in a strange new land but eventually become Americanized. Like all residents of the U.S., their politics are a reflection of the media to which they are exposed and Spanish language TV is notoriously pro-Democrat.

If you still doubt that the landscape in SoCal is changing due to the economy, all you need to do is look at all the rental vacancies and the attendant widespread drop in student enrollment for proof that waves of illegals have returned to their homelands. Where dozens upon dozens of day workers used to congregate, now you will see a mere few. The construction industry that employed them is essentially dead.

I work in a public school district and our Title I schools (based on the “free lunch” standard) have lost hundreds of students. We are the rule, not the exception. For decades, California’s institutions have been structured on the assumption that illegal immigrants would continue to seek the jobs here that they could not find at home. In California, that assumption is now false.

Terrie on December 30, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Oldnuke on December 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM

To expand on coldwarrior’s answer; the individual is the fundamental political entity in the US Constitution, unlike just about every other nation on Earth where the party is the fundamental political entity. This difference is one of the greatest, and most significant, between the US system and those in the rest of the world. Democrats hate this individualism and want to push us towards a party-oriented collectivist structure of government, like the Eurofools have. That’s why the Dems held “no-confidence” votes upon winning Congress in 2006, though there is no point to a “no-confidence” vote in our system, since our Executive is permanent and independent (unlike in most of the Euro-systems) and doesn’t depend on anything from the legislature. I was disappointed that more conservatives didn’t point this out about the insanity of the dems back then … but, we had Bush stupidly screaming about “Democracy”, instead of “Constitutionality” as he should have been. One would have thought that the Honduras situation would have helped to iron out those differences, but few seemed to care about that, either.
This nation is toast.

neurosculptor on December 30, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Political parties are not mentioned at all in the Constitution. Party politics came shortly after we moved to a Constitutional form of government.

coldwarrior on December 30, 2009 at 6:04 PM

“Factions”, as political parties were called at the time
The Constitution was written and was undergoing ratification, are mentioned by Madison and Hamilton in the Federalist Papers (but not in The Constitution itself).

The Federalist No. 9
The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection
Independent Journal
Wednesday, November 21, 1787
[Alexander Hamilton]

The Federalist No. 10
The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection (continued)
Daily Advertiser
Thursday, November 22, 1787
[James Madison]

By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

The Federalist No. 51
The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments
Independent Journal
Wednesday, February 6, 1788
[James Madison]

ya2daup on December 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM

In fact, this may help them pass ObamaCare next month. What other way is there to read this except as a signal to Blue Dogs — and Harry Reid, whom Pelosi expects to take the lead on this — that The One’s fully prepared to sacrifice them on the altar of his liberal policy wishlist? Now they can grit their teeth, vote yes on whatever he wants them to, and fall on their swords nobly next November. We’ll miss you, Dingy

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I disagree. I don’t have much faith in the intelligence of any of these people but I do think they have the survival instincts of cockroaches. I think the Underoos Bomber fiasco seriously undermines many of Obama’s initiatives from closing Gitmo to Cap and Trade to Amnesty to even ObamaCare. Blue Dogs and others can’t help but see this Administration is inept and will feel safe standing up to their strong-arm tactics.

PatMac on December 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM

This battle has been going on for many many years, in the 70′s I worked in a discount dept. store in East L.A. (before the riots when white people still lived in the surrounding areas)
A customer asked me what I was doing working there if I couldn’t speak Spanish(she spoke English, I said as far as I knew we were still in the USA she reported me to the manager, he laughed and said welcome to our future he was right.

concernedsenior on December 30, 2009 at 7:38 PM

I think this is going to get really ugly before it gets better, no matter which way it goes.

di butler on December 30, 2009 at 7:58 PM

The country will explode.

Saltysam on December 30, 2009 at 9:15 PM

This is the expected diversion….triggered to take the heat off of whatever pile of dung the fraud in the White House has gotten himself into this week. Read: Homeland Security Gaffe.

Just as soon as he get’s in over his ears (and that’s deep!), Emanuel triggers a diversion and this time it’s Amnesty for illegals.

Not surprising, really. I’m sure he’ll call on his “old friend, Senator John McCain” to help push it through again. And – of course – here’s another one “in memory of the Lion of the Senate”.

GoldenEagle4444 on December 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM

All just a side show…..

Dems trade the Union vote (under the bus you go) for the larger Hispanic vote.

Whigs (formerly the GOP) get the cheap labor for Businesses and a vain (lie to themselves) try to get the Hispanic vote with more goodies than the Dems give them.

You think Obamacare had goodies?

Baby wait till you see what Reid-McCain Amnesty looks like!!! I bet before they get done they will have promised Illegals:

FREE COLLEGE, GUARANTEED INCOME PAYMENTS, and of course all the Obamacare you’ll need to start your Legal life in America…..oh, and bring 15 of your relatives from Mexico as part of the “New Immigrant Family Resettlement Act of 2010“.

Say goodbye to your wallets.

PappyD61 on December 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM

PappyD61 on December 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM

Man! I’d hate to hang out with you on Christmas or my birthday! You would depress a pig in a mud wallow!

Vince on December 31, 2009 at 12:20 AM

I have always been amazed at how so many people shrug off illegal immigration with the idea that “they just want a better life,” or “they just want the ‘American Dream.’”
Do they realize that probably 6 BILLION people want the same thing?

I think they are like old ladies and their cats. They want to be kind and feed a few strays. Before they know it, they have hundreds of cats swarming their homes but they feel confident that they are doing the right thing. After a few years, the Health Department gets called in to deal with a a house that is a disaster area.

We all should be kind to strangers and do what we can to help those from the turd world, but these pro-illegal types demand that you slit your own throat in the process. I don’t want to live in an America with billions of people. Traffic is bad enough as it is…

shorebird on December 31, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Senior White House aides privately have assured Latino activists that the president will back legislation next year to provide a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States

If they do end up making this so called “path”, what will that do to the estimates for Obamacare since those numbers (I think) do not account for another 12 million people? What were those caveats again….

Patriot Vet on December 31, 2009 at 9:04 AM

So embracing an immigration bill is a gamble for the White House, which already has a packed agenda for 2010: economic recovery, global warming legislation and tougher regulation of financial institutions…

2010 agenda

1. Card Check…..check
2. Climate Change….check
3. Cap & Trade…..check
4. Stimulus 2…..check
5. More bailouts…check
6. More speeches….check

Are we missing anything….oh yeah….the economy….nah, it’s just fine.

PatriotRider on December 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM

This left wing agenda must be stopped. Obama wants to destroy this government and establish himself as President for Life. This is my opinion but we must at least replace enough sears in both houses to make a filibuster unbreakable

old war horse on December 31, 2009 at 2:30 PM

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