Ron Paul on the airline plot: “They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers!”

How does Paul and his Paulnut followers explain the Muslim genocide in Sudan? Are African animist tribes “occupying” Islamic lands? What’s with Al-Qaeda’s Jihad against the Dali lama? Is he “occupying” some Muslim land?

And what “Muslim land” is there anyway? Muslims are occupying every land they own now, they conquered those areas and even now suppress the non-Arabized populations. So why aren’t Christians in those lands terrorists?

Anyone who thinks Islamic Imperialism stems from outside forces is ignorant of Islamic history and theology. Theologically ALL of the world once belonged to Muslims because the first people god created were Muslims. That’s why converts to Islam refer to themselves as “reverts” as in they reverted to the faith of Adam and Eve. By that logic they have a claim to America. I guess the Paulnuts will be willing to stop “occupying” their favorite head shops to stop terrorism.

There is a theory being circulated by Muslims that America was settled by Muslims 1000 years prior to Columbus. It literally suggests that this is Islamic land. It is quite popular in Jihadi forums. To keep them from being terrorists will we cede some of America to them?

Rob Taylor on December 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

After prolonged occupations of Afghanistan and especially Iraq terrorist recruitment skyrocketed and it became more difficult for Middle Eastern nations to cooperate with us on matters of terrorism than it was after 9/11.

Asinine.Al-Qaeda had no problem recruiting for the ’93 WTC bombing or the terror attacks on us between then and 9/11. What middle eastern country was co-operating with us? The Saudis from which most the 9/11 terrorists came?

Islamism is ascending, the West is failing. If we don’t react strongly we will be destroyed which has been the goal of Wahhabism since it came into being (if Paulnuts read anything besides Prison Planet they could read Whahhabi tracts and see the real goal from our enemies own words)

It’s fairly ethnocentric to see Muslims as only reactive to us and not having agendas and desires that are self-motivated. It reminds me of when the truthers first appeared claiming “people who lived in caves” couldn’t fly planes even though the hijackers were Masters students and better educated than most of them. Paul and his supporters are stuck in a 19th century view of non-Europeans as harmless children.

Rob Taylor on December 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Actually those casaulties were caused by being there. We went into Iraq after occupying their airspace and bombing them for over a decade, which came about from the First Gulf War, which came about through mixed diplomatic signals put forth by the HW State Department, which really was just a way to destroy the same military we built up to fight the Iranians after their revolution and hostage taking, which had absolutely nothing to do with us installing the Shah, a dictator, in the first place.

Wow. Really. We “occupied” the airspace of Baathists? I thought that the U.N. backed cease fire Saddam signed had established parameters for his operations that he constantly ignored for years, ending only when he gave America the middle finger when we asked him to divulge his weapons programs. In other words he was treated with kid gloves for ten years until 3000 dead Americans made it impossible to ignore potential threats any longer.

Also Kuwait and the U.N. begged us to drive Saddam out after he invaded the country. I suppose you think Saddam’s bid to take control of the middle east one country at a time would have never concerned an oil dependent country like us.

The “dictator” Shah of Iran continues to be beloved by the people, installed a Republican style government where religious minorities had civil rights and women were equals, even achieving high ranks in the military. The Iranian revolution was funded and instigated by Communists (thus why they still refer to themselves as Revolutionary) who blended Marxist class warfare with Islam’s innate imperialism. But of course that’s “not our business” because Communists and Islamists have never attacked America.

It’s odd how Paulnuts can lean so far to the right that they end up allied with the hard left. But do tell. Now that all these “evil American acts” have happened and Muslims want revenge for them what exactly is the Ron Paul plan to deal with it? Let them punch themselves out until enough Americans are dead to sate the unending bloodlust of a culture still trapped in the middle ages?

Rob Taylor on December 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM