Report: CIA knew about Abdulmuttalab in August; Update: More details; Update: CIA defends itself

posted at 7:58 pm on December 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

“The system worked.”

CBS News has learned that as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed “The Nigerian,” suspected of meeting with “terrorist elements” in Yemen.

Sources tell CBS News “The Nigerian” has now turned out to be Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abudulmutallab’s father went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria three months later, on November 19, 2009. It was then he expressed deep concerns to a CIA officer about his son’s ties to extremists in Yemen, a hotbed of al Qaeda activity.

In fact, CBS News has learned this information was not connected until after the attempted Christmas Day bombing

“We learned of him in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then,” said Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman. “Also in November, we worked with the embassy to ensure he was in the government’s terrorist database – including mention of his possible extremist connections in Yemen. We also forwarded key biographical information about him to the National Counterterrorism Center. This agency, like others in our government, is reviewing all data to which it had access – not just what we ourselves may have collected – to determine if more could have been done to stop Abdulmutallab.”

CBS frames this as a failure to connect the dots, but unless I’m misreading it, they did connect them. The CIA had info on his terrorist links back in August and then they had his name in November, a month before he bought his ticket. And yet … he was still allowed to fly. Why wasn’t the background on him forwarded to State after they got the name so that they could revoke his visa? A State Department official told the Washington Independent this afternoon that the info on Abdulmutallab was “very thin,” but how thin could it have been if the CIA was already picking up chatter about him before they’d even ID’d him?

No worries, though. Napolitano’s promising to fix it all.

Update: Not enough missed red flags for you yet? Here’s former CIA agent Bob Baer discussing a security study he conducted three years ago, which concluded with him predicting that a Northwest flight from Amsterdam to Detroit would be a terror risk. Bingo.

Update: WaPo doesn’t name the CIA or the CBS report, but it sounds like they’re talking about the same thing.

The official said the president and his top advisers are “increasingly confident” that Al Qaeda was involved in the attempted attacker’s plans.

Obama, in his remarks to reporters earlier in the day, said that if intelligence about the suspect had been handled differently he would have been blocked from boarding a plane for the United States. Senior officials said that was among the new details that the president learned in a conference call with top national security officials – National Security Adviser Jim Jones, his top counterterrorism expert John Brennan, and deputy National Security adviser Tom Donilon – on Tuesday morning.

The new information “had to do with information that was in possession of the government…that spoke to both where the suspect ad been, what some of his thinking and plans were, what some of the plans of Al Qaeda were,” the senior official said. The official added that the details had not been correlated as effectively as they had been in earlier instances of thwarted attacks, especially preceding the arrest of a young Afghan, Najibullah Zazi, who sought to build bombs after visiting an Al Qaeda training camp.

Update: Time for the inevitable CIA pushback.

The CIA received a vague warning four months ago about the Nigerian suspect in the Christmas Day bombing attempt, although officers did not learn his name until last month, administration officials said Tuesday night…

A U.S. intelligence official defended the agency’s handling of the elliptical information, telling POLITICO: “Abdulmutallab’s father didn’t say his son was a terrorist, let alone planning an attack. Not at all. I’m not aware of some magic piece of intelligence that suddenly would have flagged this guy — whose name nobody even had until November — as a killer en route to America, let alone something that anybody withheld.”…

Sources tell POLITICO that the warning from the father is not that unusual — a reminder of the torrent of disturbing information that government officials confront on a daily basis.

Wasn’t the “magic piece of intelligence” in this case the fact that “the Nigerian” was suspected of meeting with terrorists in Yemen? What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

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ACLU: “Hey, the guy just had bad gas! You can’t pin this on him just because he’s Nigerian.”

AubieJon on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Panetta is to the CIA what Obama is to the WH.

artist on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

When you see the bright flash, remember…

… look away, and hide under your desk.

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Why wasn’t the background on him forwarded to State after they got the name so that they could revoke his visa?

You know what we need? Some sort of over-arching agency to coordinate all of this stuff.

What could we call it?

I know, “Department of Homeland Security!”

An extra layer of bureaucracy always makes things run better….

notropis on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

as (1) August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed (2)“The Nigerian,”

(1) Can’t blame Bush

(2) Try Muslim Extremist

FIFY CBS

Branch Rickey on December 29, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Pathetic!!!

Of course, they will blame Bush.

It is scary how incompetent this administration is.

texasconserv on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Facepalm

Daveyardbird on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

I give our intelligent services a solid B+ on their handling of the Crotch Bomber.

Lance Murdock on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

The info was “very thin”? The Israelis would have had this guy sweating it out in a sealed room on less information, and a near miss slaughter would never have occurred.

How thick does the info need to be before security is allowed to act? Seriously, wtf.

Bishop on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Better and better… is there a punch in here somewhere?

ya2daup on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

No worries, though. Napolitano’s promising to fix it all.

Hey AZ residents, can you back AP up on this claim? I am sure you can come up with three awesomely awesome things she did for AZ.

WashJeff on December 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM

I thought it was only a few days, that’s what Zero said. The system has earned a B+. It worked.

Brat4life on December 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Why wasn’t the background on him forwarded to State after they got the name so that they could revoke his visa?

Because the Administration decided to go back to pre-9/11 days and force a wall between agencies again so they can’t talk to each other.

Ask Panetta.

Enoxo on December 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM

You know what we need? Some sort of over-arching agency to coordinate all of this stuff.

What could we call it?

I know, “Department of Homeland Security!”

An extra layer of bureaucracy always makes things run better….

notropis on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

If you like “Department of Homeland Security” then your are gonna LOVE “Health Care/Insurance Reform”…

Branch Rickey on December 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM

We are the ones we’ve been waiting f…*KABOOM!*

Sharke on December 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM

When you see the bright flash, remember…

… look away, and hide under your desk.

Sorry…

I forgot the linky.

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Remember that terror attack commodities type exchange the Bush administration types wanted to run to game the possibilities? Remember the outcry?

SilentWatcher on December 29, 2009 at 8:06 PM

ya2daup on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

… punch line …

ya2daup on December 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

ACLU: “Hey, the kid was just lighting a fart, like he’d seen on some old John Belushi movies.”

bradley11 on December 29, 2009 at 8:08 PM

This is funny…”conservative”Charles Johnson weighs in with his powerful intellect on the terrorist situation(on the same site that employs”conservative”Andi Sullivan) http://www.theatlanticwire.com/features/view/feature/Charles-Johnson-on-Security-and-Saudi-Art-Therapy-528 h/t theblogmocracy

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Well, Mr Pundit sir, if you want to ask some questions, ask if the CIA had this guy under surveillance in the hope he would lead them to a bigger fish.

Skandia Recluse on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Well, Mr Pundit sir, if you want to ask some questions, ask if the CIA had this guy under surveillance in the hope he would lead them to a bigger fish.

What does that have to do with the no-fly list? All the more reason to keep him off.

Allahpundit on December 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

The comments are the best part. :)

Lance Murdock on December 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Let’s see…we have a rogue Scareforce 1 flyover of NYC, we have a muslim terrorist shooting people on a military base with red flags waving everywhere, we have these red flags, and then we 2 incidents of people getting past the Secret Service to get in the same room with Obama. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear this was happening on purpose.

SouthernGent on December 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

If the CIA did indeed know about this guy in August then it is all the more reprehensible that this administration did not put the Abdulmuttalab on the “right list” for caution. It is only by the grace of God that this administration did not kill a planeload of people. We should all be outraged at their indifference to terrorism.

highhopes on December 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Was going to make a trip to London next spring…not sure I want to even get on an airplane while this bunch of incompetents are in charge.

The wife & I did lots of travelling right after 9/11 [actually landed in London on that morning] and it was spooky with the mostly empty planes, but we were never really concerned about safety. My how things have changed in the era of hopeychangey…

lukespapa on December 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Dude, c’mon. Obama’s racing to the 17th tee now. Sun’s setting soon in Hawaii. He’s tired! Leave poor Obama alone!

JammieWearingFool on December 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM

So Incompetano, the one who created this mess, is going to fix it? I’m glad I don’t fly much. And btw, what’s preventing a fundamentalist Muslim from strapping on a homicide bomb, waltzing into an airport, not an airplane, and blowing himself up? As long as there’s a dhimmicrat in the White House it’s going to be a charley foxtrot every time.

Mojave Mark on December 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

headline: “nigerian scams hits close to home.”

moonbatkiller on December 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Ok, the update vid just gave me the creeps.

Can you feel a successful airplane hit coming? There is no way the organization behind this latest attack would only send one guy on one plane.

Bishop on December 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

This news only disturbs “The One”. He was planning a nice game of golf with Tiger and now this inconvenient information pops up…..

Sir Galahad the Pure on December 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

“Obama, in his remarks to reporters earlier in the day, said that if intelligence about the suspect had been handled differently he would have been blocked from boarding a plane for the United States.”

“And if my wife Michelle looked like Charlize Theron, she’d be attractive”, Obama added.

Cicero43 on December 29, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Hey , looks like an inside job..

the_nile on December 29, 2009 at 8:19 PM

So this is what it’s like with Democrats in charge of national security.

This time we were lucky. When is our luck going to run out?

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

And to make matters worse, they’ll now allow Abdulmutallab to be tried in criminal court, rather than holding him as an enemy combatant.

This guy is no different than any agent behind enemy lines attempting sabotage to kill or harm the enemy in any way possible.

He should have been turned over to the military or intelligence community for further “enhanced” questioning.

BacaDog on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Heh. This is why Obama was pulled out of the hot tub, placed in front of a computer with no camera, just a microphone and some index cards.

“Read this, Obama”

Obama: “O’Tay!”

We’re in great hands.

Key West Reader on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

B+

SDarchitect on December 29, 2009 at 8:21 PM

I give our intelligent services a solid B+ on their handling of the Crotch Bomber.

Lance Murdock on December 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM

I give them a solid BULLSH*T+

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

He should have been turned over to the military or intelligence community for further “enhanced” questioning.

BacaDog on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Some water-boarding could heal the burn..

the_nile on December 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

will obama pull a dubya and give panettta a medal, or fire the bastid?!?!?!

reliapundit on December 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM

I’ve been waiting on someone to put out there 2 questions: 1)is our Intelligence Community pulling their punches since they have already been put on notice that the White House doesn’t have their backs and will throw them under the bus and 2) whether an administrative “kibosh” has been placed on actively working intelligence information.

2nd Ammendment Mother on December 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

I’m afraid they’re only into performance art :-/

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Not understanding how all of this works, its hard for me to just blame the President, or the CIA, or State, or DHS for this mistake. There must be hundreds of thousands of names they’ve got to monitor, and trying to “connect the dots” would seem quite difficult. HOWEVER, it seems to me that our last President wasn’t given a whole lot of leeway in this regard, many saying it was a systemic failure in not predicting the flight numbers for the 9/11 attacks. Personally, I think the “system” is better capable now than it was then, and the dots were still not connected.

I’m sure there are some who’ll say, “well, this was one guy and it didn’t even succeed, so it wasn’t nearly the disaster that 9/11 was, nor could it have been.” And, they may be right, but they have to remember, this plane was over US soil, so if it did got down, not only would it have likely taken the 300 or so lives on board, but others on the ground may have been lost as well. So even it it had been only 300 that’s 10% of the 9/11 death toll with only 5% of the crew. Per capita, that a more significant death toll.

Additionally, given that the problem, according to the Prez, was a systemic failure, my first question would be: Has any part of the system been changed since Jan 20th? I remember hearing talk of a Gorelick-like wall being re-installed. Could this have been why the information wasn’t properly “shared”? And didn’t the Administration brag about “hitting the ground running” regarding national security? And if the Bush system was the debacle I expect the “reports” to indicate, why during the last 11 months hasn’t that been corrected?

I don’t feel very comfortable with the make up of this Administration.

BKeyser on December 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

So this is what it’s like with Democrats in charge of national security and health care.

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

bayview on December 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Ok, I know this is a sick thought, but I can’t help think the CIA may be working the WH a bit on this. If I were CIA, I’d be thinking, “you got my back, I’ll have yours.” Or “You want to play hardball politics, we can play hardball too.”

Now obviously the WH has been playing leftwing politics and using the CIA as their football. Once the WH starting playing this dangerous game, I wondered how long it would take the CIA to fire back. Maybe this incident was their first volley.

I’m probably giving the CIA more intelligence than they deserve(or watched too many episodes of 24), but I’d like to think they may have assured that the detonator wouldn’t work and that no real threat was posed on any airline. They may be enjoying sitting back watching this WH squirm a bit.

Nahh, I’m letting my imagination run away with me.

SoldiersMom on December 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

When you see the bright flash, remember…

… look away, and hide under your desk.

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Heh…looks like it’s time to dust off those old “Duck and Cover” reels for a new generation.

tru2tx on December 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM


Yes I am saying the CIA was misleading the Congress, and at the same time the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to which I said that this intelligence doesn’t support the imminent threat,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/14/pelosi-accuses-cia-misleading-congress-waterboarding/

Blaming the CIA in 3….2….1….

lovingmyUSA on December 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM

What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

….

Register as a Republican?

artist on December 29, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Why wasn’t the background on him forwarded to State after they got the name so that they could revoke his visa?

What we got here is… … failure to communicate.
- Captain, Road Prison 36 (“Cool Hand Luke”)

MB4 on December 29, 2009 at 8:33 PM

What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

Be a veteran.

csdeven on December 29, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Let me be the first to ask the pertinent unPC question…..

Any hot shot Muslim/american agents overseeing any part of the chain?

BL@KBIRD on December 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Mojave Mark on December 29, 2009 at 8:16 PM

I’ve often thought that while waiting in triple and quadruple check-in lines at British airports. Seriously, if body count and the spreading of terror, so that the populace is scared to use any public transport, is your aim, why wait until the plane is in the air?

Fortunata on December 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM

I give them a solid BULLSH*T+

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM

I’d say that too. But giving the Obami Administration a B+ is funnier.

Lance Murdock on December 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM

No wonder The Won is tired, this protecting the country while continuing to find ways to blame W has to be exhausting. I guess the fact that W didn’t whine all the time meant he was doing it wrong.

Cindy Munford on December 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Quick, The Oprah! Do an interview with Bo! Woof! Woof!

SouthernGent on December 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM

When Bob Baer speaks, people should listen and listen very carefully.

thomasaur on December 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM

That wonderful Office of Director of National Intelligence is certainly on the ball.

Let’s see, last August, the ODNI was trying to take over selection of Chiefs of Station from the Director of CIA, among other functions. A super top-heavy bureaucracy trying to micro-manage everything. Wonderful.

So long as the current circumstances make for more and more CIA ops officers slow coasting so as not to have to face a federal indictment for failing to consider the pain and angst of little brown people the world over, more and more will get “missed” as intel comes in and fewer and fewer in the chain of command want to get their names on any of it, lest they face a federal prosecutor for failing to exercise due diligence in observing the “rights” of foreigners.

Preventing another Pearl Harbor is what the CIA was built to attain…but as morale declines and the ODNI pushes for supremacy with that wonderful knee-jerk institution created as a result of the 9-11 Commission…the men and women who face the bad guys eye-ball to eye-ball are going to miss things. When your President fails to defend your work, your efforts, your risks, in defending these United States whilst perched on the razor’s edge, it has a very clear impact on how well or how poorly the outfit will do.

The intel on “The Nigerian” probably went to the multi-agency Counter-Terrorism Center and taken out of the hands of the responsible area desk or Division at CIA lest they actually do something about it.

coldwarrior on December 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM

This time we were lucky. When is our luck going to run out?

disa on December 29, 2009 at 8:20 PM

What I keep wondering in our affairs both domestic and foreign.

How long until the goatf**kers in Iraq and Afghanistan finally figure out the US forces are fighting under ridiculous rules and throw everything including the kitchen sink at us?

How long until the quick-reacting LEO or civilian is just a second too late to prevent disaster?

Dark-Star on December 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Wont Obamacare fix this?

the_nile on December 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM

This faux pas reminds me of when I briefly (pardon the pun) stepped into Corporate after being self employed and sufficent. When you step into a solid, ice block corporate structure there is no room to move.

I’m thinking our entire Federal (possibly State) Governments need to think about allowing things to move. Such as the bowels of the Fed and State governments.

Flush them all. Because? In the end, nobody likes to have sh*t on their hands or their books.

/Sure wish I could do an Archie Bunker flush right now.

Key West Reader on December 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Hmmmmm…if the CIA feels the squeeze, I wonder whom they will bring down? Nazi Pelosi is on their shinola list already. Please let it be Nazi Pelosi!

SouthernGent on December 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Ok, that’s it. I thought I would never be qualified to work at any national security agency. Now I realize I am over qualified with common sense.

kahall on December 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM

It’s the same story as the recruitment center attack in Little Rock back in June. They were tracking that jihadi right up to the shooting of the soldiers. He was the first one that came from this same Yemeni cell. Instead of waterboarding that one and preventing Ft. Hood and Christmas flight, they were threatening to bring charges against the last administration for preventing a new ground zero in LA at the time.

Buddahpundit on December 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Wont Obamacare fix this?

the_nile on December 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM

the world will begin to love us once 0bamacare passes. yes.

moonbatkiller on December 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Heh…looks like it’s time to dust off those old “Duck and Cover” reels for a new generation.

tru2tx on December 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Only problem with that is that the average schoolchild will no longer fit under the desk they are supposed to use as cover.

Far better that this administration be held to account and we get answers to the very many questions raised by this incident and the FT. Hood shootings. It is indeed time to jump to conclusions and insist that the administration stop treating these as isolated crimes instead of being part of the GWOT. Obama declared the war on terror over but nobody told that to the terrorists. Time to force a teachable moment on the school dunce (aka known as POTUS).

highhopes on December 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Reagan’s CIA was run by a guy named Bill Casey…He was part of the OSS, Office of Strategic Services, during WWII. This guy grew up in the service…He worked behind enemy lines before it was cool…There are plenty of great men around who have backgrounds with the SEALS, Marine Recon, Delta Force, CIA, FBI, DIA…Why in the hell do we put up with having a political hacks like Panetta and Napolitano in charge of CIA and Homeland Security?…This is a travesty of common sense…But, counting on our Congress or the President having any common sense is a bridge too far I guess.

Nozzle on December 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

How long until the quick-reacting LEO or civilian is just a second too late to prevent disaster?

Dark-Star on December 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM

I think that we are no longer able to depend on the elected officials. They are theives, crooks and liars. Depend on yourself, family friends, neighbors and locals. We’re on our own. We’ll be fine if we stick together and don’t freak out over what and who is ruling us.

A year and a half is about enough time for me to realize that we’re in some deep waters. I’m not staying around to watch this liberal boat sink.

Key West Reader on December 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

So it wasn’t just a failure, it was an epic failure on multiple levels. Super! When can I book my next flight?

scalleywag on December 29, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Who are these sources leaking these details to the news media? Why would the intelligence community want to tell the terrorists what we knew and when? Are these sources political with an axe to grind?

How can an ordinary person know who is telling the truth here, when the news media gets played by their sources?

This whole story stinks. Not just because this clown nearly blew up a plane load of innocent people, but because of the A**covering by the players involved. We can’t even know with any degree of certainty the the news media, (or their anonymous sources) are even telling the truth here.

This whole story sounds like White House leaks for political reasons.

Skandia Recluse on December 29, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Let me be the first to ask the pertinent unPC question…..

Any hot shot Muslim/american agents overseeing any part of the chain?

BL@KBIRD on December 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Actually there was just an editorial about that in IBD not too long ago…

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Anybody else catch a whiff of somebody trying to throw the CIA under the bus?

It’s not like Obama’s White House hasn’t tried before, especially siding with Pelosi against the CIA.

Remember when the Bush White House blamed the CIA and the FBI for 9/11? Remember that? Me neither.

Skywise on December 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

“…bin Laden determined to attack inside US.”

Kafir on December 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Key West Reader on December 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Well, in the end it was a civilian who came to the rescue. It’s chilling to see how many ways this guy should have been caught beforehand. Makes you wonder who is out there being ignored as a threat as we speak.

scalleywag on December 29, 2009 at 8:47 PM

From The Atlantic article:

… conservative Charles Johnson, who recently defected from “the American right wing,” …

Defected? What did he do: tunnel through a firewall and cross over to the other side with the next 365 days’ worth of keys to our secret decoder rings? What a bunch of drama queens!

ya2daup on December 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM

That “magic piece of intelligence” must include a detailed itinerary and summary logistics that specify times, dates, and the full names of both plotters and participants of any potential man-made disaster. There, all fixed.

-Janet Incompetano

anXdem on December 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM

from 12/17 starting to take on more meaning now? http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=515712

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM

I’m sure they were worried Obama and his Leftist friends in Congress would prosecute them in they went after a Nigerian. They aren’t stupid. They got the memo.

TheBigOldDog on December 29, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Update:

You know…

One would think that a sovereign nation, in taking steps to protect it’s citizens, would house these terrorists in a state of the art facility, and use enhanced interrogation techniques to squeeze every piece of information from them to protect the lives of said citizens, then let all intelligence and law enforcement agencies know said information, ensure them that said field agents would not be prosecuted from trying to protect said citizens from a violent and painful death while doing their jobs, and finally flush ‘political correctness’ down the toilet.

But no, we can’t have THAT, can we…?

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Not enough missed red flags for you yet?

This administration doesnt recognize any flag associated with America.//

canditaylor68 on December 29, 2009 at 8:53 PM

They let this guy go to catch the bigger fish. Whoops.

Punditpawn on December 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM

What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

hack off either Ed or AP with a *stray comment*….?

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Let me be the first to ask the pertinent unPC question…..

Any hot shot Muslim/american agents overseeing any part of the chain?

BL@KBIRD on December 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Actually there was just an editorial about that in IBD not too long ago…

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

I may be mistaken, but wasn’t the second in command at HS the Muslim you mention?

silvernana on December 29, 2009 at 8:55 PM

“What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?”

Rerecord an old Cat Stevens song?

Dusty on December 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM

What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

Be an American conservative white-male veteran (my name’s on the list [not me, someone else with the same first and last name], so I know).

rmgraha on December 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM

The CIA cannot act on its own. Its leaders have the yea or nay call. I bet that the CinC said no to going after this guy. As a matter of fact I’m sure of it with every fiber of my being.

baldilocks on December 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

“Abdulmutallab’s father didn’t say his son was a terrorist, let alone planning an attack.”

LMAO. What, “Ticking man-caused disaster” wasn’t good enough for ya?

Dusty on December 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

This is a drip….drip….drip…. bad news dump by the administration. First they denied everything and Nepolitano claimed the system worked. On the third day the President gets out there and with no emotion blandly and tepidly states that America will get to the bottom of this “alleged” terrorist attempt (explosives in underpants makes this statement utterly ridiculous). Fourth day and another press event where the President tries to make us feel as if the administration didn’t royally screw up. Then late in the day we learn that this guy was being tracked since August. I can only imagine what further details of the administration’s failures will be dumped on Thursday night when most Americans will be marking the advent of 2010.

highhopes on December 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

SoldiersMom on December 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I’ve been thinking on the same lines. I also had another thought rolling around in my brain today. Is it possible, eventually, we’ll hear from the CIA, anonymous or otherwise, that they were asked to sit on the info they had, after passing it along to the State Dept?

They’ve been threatened on more than one occasion by this administration, and Pelosi. I think it’s extremely possible they collected data, passed it along, then left it alone. What else can they do? To go any further would mean possible prosecutions if the dim wit speaker, and the ACLU had their way.

capejasmine on December 29, 2009 at 9:13 PM

To quote myself about the obvious:

“When somebody’s daddy turns him in and THEN he pays cash, has no luggage or passport for an international flight: you PAY F*CKING ATTENTION!!!!”

It might not be the “No-Fly List” but it sure as HELL should be the “CRAWL UP HIS ASS” list then…

tree hugging sister on December 29, 2009 at 9:16 PM

[baldilocks on December 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM]

I don’t disagree with the latter, B, in fact I wholeheartedly agree. But what do you mean by the CIA can’t act on its own? Do you mean the head of the CIA can’t send a memo to State to the effect “Here’s a name for the No Visa list” without getting an okay for the CinC?

Dusty on December 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

It’s the same story as the recruitment center attack in Little Rock back in June. They were tracking that jihadi right up to the shooting of the soldiers. He was the first one that came from this same Yemeni cell. Instead of waterboarding that one and preventing Ft. Hood and Christmas flight, they were threatening to bring charges against the last administration for preventing a new ground zero in LA at the time.

Buddahpundit on December 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Very, very astute observation.

baldilocks on December 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

theTarCzar on December 29, 2009 at 8:10 PM

The comments are the best part. :)

Lance Murdock on December 29, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Most of the comments have already been deleted.

Urban Infidel on December 29, 2009 at 9:23 PM

When you see the bright flash, remember…

… look away, and hide under your desk.

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Heh…looks like it’s time to dust off those old “Duck and Cover” reels for a new generation.

tru2tx on December 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Right, Duck & Cover…

WhoU4 on December 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Not enough missed red flags for you yet?

Well, it is easy to miss the red ones when you are bowing and fawning over the black flags and green flags.

BL@KBIRD on December 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM

What the hell do you have to do to get on the no-fly list?

In my case, apparently, share a name with an IRA terrorist. And never mind what this guy did, I’m not even in the mile high club (does it count if you’re by yourself?).

mikeyboss on December 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM

In any successful large company, there are a handful of executives who know what they’re doing and are damned good at it. Most of them, they’ve had ups and downs and successes and failures throughout their careers.

The really good ones came from almost nothing, weren’t that good in school, but just knew that all those people who said they’d amount to nothing were wrong. So, they worked harder and learned success the hard way, becoming quite competent in the process.

In their companies are a whole bunch of people at the bottom just like them, who work hard and smart.

Between the guys at the top and the bottom are a whole bunch of CYA, narcissistic, low self-esteem, incompetents who believe that stifling the ones at the bottom will somehow secure their own jobs.

The problem we have in the CIA, the FBI and DOD, for that matter, is not at the bottom. In fact, they are the best that’s ever been.

No, the real problem is that the middle management types have taken over, and there’s no one at the top levels who’ve got the foggiest on what they’re doing, including, of course, Obama.

My heart goes out to the agency and company people who are doing the real work, protecting us, even as they know their management is inept.

TXUS on December 29, 2009 at 9:31 PM

baldilocks on December 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

If approvals were needed by CIA, for something that fell outside of the normal Operational Directives…well, in the old days, such were handled by the responsible area desk, signed off on by the responsible Division Chief, if such were routine, with coordination with CI staff. If it were a biggie, then it was sent upstairs, or walked upstairs if time was of the essence, and then those outside agencies [State, Justice, Defense, and NSC] chopped off on it. At that point, the DDO signed off on it and if important enough, it went to the DCI. Then action could be taken. Some took several days to complete, others a a day or two, and in a rare number of cases, within an hour, or so.

But, today, I have to imagine that the ODNI and his bureaucracy has to chop off on just about everything before CIA can move…adding time, a lot of unneeded meddling and a lot of time wasted. Add to that the probability of many things falling through the cracks after they left CIA and wound up over at ODNI.

As for Presidential Findings, well, that’s a whole ‘nuther ball of wax. None would have been needed in this case, regardless.

But, I do agree in a major way with what you posit. In today’s realm, given the record so far since last January, I can easily see that someone or some office over at the White House or ODNI, could easily thwart any sort of follow-up with a phone call, a hasty memo, or worse, an implied “do not do” given to the Agency by some appointee at the GS-God level.

I give this Administration no slack whatsoever when it comes to the overall management of our intelligence assets and agencies.

coldwarrior on December 29, 2009 at 9:32 PM

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