Rasmussen: Ben Nelson down 30 points to Heineman after health-care reversal

posted at 10:55 am on December 29, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Ah, the wages of pork:

The good news for Senator Ben Nelson is that he doesn’t have to face Nebraska voters until 2012.

If Governor Dave Heineman challenges Nelson for the Senate job, a new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows that Heineman would get 61% of the vote while Nelson would get just 30%.

The health care vote is clearly dragging Nelson’s numbers down. Just 17% of Nebrasaka voters approve of the deal their Senator made on Medicaid in exchange for his vote. Overall, 64% oppose the health care legislation, including 53% who are Strongly Opposed. Fifty-six percent (56%) believe that passage of the legislation will hurt the quality of care and 62% believe it will raise costs.

If Nelson votes to block final passage of the health care plan, he would still trail Heineman but be in a much more competitive situation.

When survey respondents were asked how they would vote in Nelson blocks health care reform, 47% still pick Heneman while 37% would vote to keep Nelson in office.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer flip-flopper.  Most Nebraskans appear to agree.  Despite getting hundreds of millions of dollars for his home state in a grubby deal with Harry Reid for his vote on ObamaCare, 55% of Nebraskans disapprove of Nelson’s performance, with only 40% approving.  Interestingly, that number remains exactly the same among men and women.  It’s almost as bad with independents (54%), and every age demographic has a majority disapproving of Nelson.

Here’s an interesting internal: among those uninsured, 62% disapprove of Nelson after his vote on ObamaCare.  In fact, fewer uninsured approve of Nelson (37%) than insured (39%).

Heineman, on the other hand, is a mirror of Nelson’s discontent.  Disapproval doesn’t get above 34% in any age bracket, and remarkably is at 0% among 18-29 year old voters, and only 4% among thirtysomethings.  Even Democrats like him, 44%/40%, while independents approve of Heineman 67%/26%.

Such are the wages of pork, and of selling out.  Nelson won’t have to answer for it until 2012, but he may want to rethink that vote on its next pass through the Senate.

Update: Reader AJF dropped me a note to inform me that I had misspelled the tagline on this post, and that it should read “just deserts.”  I almost sent a message arguing the point but decided to check it out first.  I would have thought that an etymology buff like myself would have heard this one before now:

The noun “desert” (accent on the first syllable) is generally used to refer to an arid, barren expanse of land; the noun “dessert” (accent on the second syllable) is a sweet course or dish usually served at the end of a meal. However, the word “desert” — when spelled like the former but pronounced like the latter — also refers to a deserved reward or punishment. Therefore, someone who does wrong and is punished in a suitable manner has received his “just deserts.”

Many people, unfamiliar with the “reward or punishment” meaning of the word “desert,” mistakenly assume that the phrase “just deserts” is properly spelled “just desserts” because of its pronunciation. (The usual reasoning is that a dessert is a type of reward one is given at the end of a meal, so someone who receives suitable rewards or punishments for his actions has gotten his “just desserts.”)

When one gets what one deserves, good or bad, one is getting one’s “just deserts,” accent on the second syllable but spelled like the arid, barren lands.

Thanks for the tip, AJ! I’ve fixed the tagline.


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Ahh, but Ben is a principled fella on abortion…..er, wait..? maybe not

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

perhaps a low risk vote for Nelson.

It’s so, so, so, so early.

vinman on December 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I like it!!!

WashJeff on December 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Couldn’t happen to a nicer waffle.

hawksruleva on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

helping those who don’t want to be helped… gotta love the liberal mind

gatorboy on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Now he has to be made a pariah in his hometown during his forced retirement.

marklmail on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

DO.
NOT.
FORGET.
IN.
2012.

Deckard on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Cheap date whore.

He should have asked for more.

Enoxo on December 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM

30 points…30 pieces of silver.

kingsjester on December 29, 2009 at 11:01 AM

hahaha Serves him right!

becki51758 on December 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Another sacrificial lamb for Obama and the traitorous left.

csdeven on December 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Related satire: Obama Says “A Giant Pork Sandwich” Will Lower Health Care Costs http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/12/obama-says-giant-pork-sandwich-will.html

Mervis Winter on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Take another polls when he is done handing out money – for the next 12 months….!!!

jake-the-goose on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I won’t forget, Benny.

And I won’t let anybody within earshot forget.

2012 gets closer, and closer every day.

cntrlfrk on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Recall?

SouthernGent on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I’m sure he’d be 15 pts down if he ran against Floyd the Barber.

T.O.A.S.T.

I wish they’d do a poll on Evan Bayh. He’s my senator. BTW, check out http://www.gomarlin.com. That’s who I’m going to support as Bayh’s replacement. Gotta get Marlin through the GOP primary though.

Oink on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Let’s hope he’s in the minority party for the last two years of his career.

darwin-t on December 29, 2009 at 11:05 AM

… gotta love the liberal mind

gatorboy on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Is there such a thing? Certainly a dysfunctional entity at best.

MassVictim on December 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

I’ve been calling this the “Ben Nelson Forced Retirement Act of 2009.”

Guess I still know my fellow Nebraskans, even if I ain’t one anymore.

notropis on December 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

I hope he chokes on those numbers.

Kensington on December 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM

If we could recall him, we would. Too many dems in the state legislature though, and too many GOP “buddies”. But we will not forget…

serenity on December 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Well, if there was any question if the former sheeple are watching this ought to answer it.

ORconservative on December 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Oink on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I sent Bayh an “Enjoy the joys of retirement” card. You know what he’ll do – what he does every time – he’ll vote for cloture and if it will pass without his vote, he’ll vote against it and come home and claim he opposed it.

darwin-t on December 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

55% of Nebraskans disapprove of Nelson’s performance, with only 40% approving.

Yeah, but the 2010 elections are months away, which is an eternity in American politics.

Not only that, but ACORN can easily make up the 15 point deficit with their community organizing “tactics.”

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

but he may want to rethink that vote on its next pass through the Senate.

Are you kidding me? Beauty fades, dumb is forever and Ben Nelson is as dumb as a box of rocks.

Knucklehead on December 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

He sacrificed his political career so 0bowma can get his legacy bill.

Simply amazing.

FireBlogger on December 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Nelson. You fully deserve to get creamed this next election. You and the rest of your ilk.

Jockolantern on December 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

helping those who don’t want to be helped… gotta love the liberal mind

gatorboy on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Spot on!

Drained Brain on December 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Recall?

SouthernGent on December 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I was thinking the same thing.

If the Cornhuskers can do it, maybe we can also do it in Minny. (Adios Landslide Al!)

Recall might be a good national option, given that the Obamacons and the Independents are realizing they were on the short end of the grandest bait & switch scam in the history of American politics.

Bruno Strozek on December 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM

They don’t care about the wishes of the electorate, they have the smell of fascisitic power in their nostrils. Like serial killers, they’re going to see how much they can get away with before they get busted.

Sharke on December 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Yeah, but the 2010 elections are months away, which is an eternity in American politics.

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM

I must correct myself before some else does. Nelson is not up for re-election until 2012, which is even worse, since it will allow even more time for people to forget how he voted on Obamacare.

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Now is the time for the GOP to promise, in big, ugly ads that we won’t let ANYONE forget who helped us on this road to socialism.

anniekc on December 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

He sacrificed his political career so 0bowma can get his legacy bill.

Simply amazing.

FireBlogger on December 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Amazing? No, it’s the sworn duty of a card carrying member of the Obamacare Martyr’s Brigade—the unit where personal survival is secondary to the needs of the state. These folks are merely cannon fodder, pawns, kamikazes sent to bring down the ship of the United States. We are wrong to assume that they have their political survival in mind, for they are the expressionless drones that serve to do the bidding of the One, the Only, the Magnificent….

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Ben’s betting on his constituents forgetting his sellout by 2012. Let’s hope they don’t.

anXdem on December 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM

He sacrificed his political career so 0bowma can get his legacy bill.

Simply amazing.

FireBlogger on December 29, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Don’t forget that the majority of Porkulus money has not been spent yet. Obama, Reid and Pelosi are holding it back for paybacks. He he most likely has been promised something above and beyond for his Medicare sellout vote.

Johnnyreb on December 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Here’s an interesting internal: among those uninsured, 62% disapprove of Nelson after his vote on ObamaCare. In fact, fewer uninsured approve of Nelson (37%) than insured (39%).

Those are all the young healthy people who don’t need, don’t want insurance but are going to be forced to buy it. Maybe Cornhuskers are not as dumb as they look…

tommylotto on December 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Which state is going to be the first to undo a Senator before his/her term is through? Where is the will, where is the way, how can it be done, who will do it? Nebraska? Montana–*hiccup*? Baucus is making Montana look like a bunch of drunken fools….Is Montana going to stand for that? Louisiana?

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Maybe these numbers will scare some sense into the likes of Jim Webb…

parteagirl on December 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Which state is going to be the first to undo a Senator before his/her term is through? Where is the will, where is the way, how can it be done, who will do it? Nebraska? Montana–*hiccup*? Baucus is making Montana look like a bunch of drunken fools….Is Montana going to stand for that? Louisiana?

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Mary Landrieu will get a pass on it from Louisiana because it’s business as usual down here.

Montana and Baucus, though? I think there’s a legit shot that he could be recalled given all the crap that’s gone down with him in the past few years such as having an affair with a woman and attempting to get her installed as the US Attorney for Montana.

teke184 on December 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Are we wrong in assuming that these Senator’s first priority is another term? Maybe so. I believe that they *know* full well that their numbers would tank and this LA, and NE crap is merely feather bedding and vote buying as a means to satiate their voters.

I am certain that some of these Senators and Congressmen that have their necks on the line in 2010 have already been promised some sort of a *golden parachute*…?

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Nelson obviously thought the voters in Nebraska would act like voters in a deep Blue state or district, and think getting all that bribe $$$ for them was all the voters really wanted, in an end-justifies-the-means sort of way. The fact that the voters actually have a higher set of moral and fiscal principles seems to have come as a shock to the senator.

jon1979 on December 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

I think there’s a legit shot that he could be recalled given all the crap that’s gone down with him in the past few years such as having an affair with a woman and attempting to get her installed as the US Attorney for Montana.

teke184 on December 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Well, where’s some Montanans at to get the ball rolling and start heatin’ up Max’s backside for making them look like philandering drunkards ? Is Montana going to stand up for this? What does the Montana constitution say about recalling a Senator?

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 11:21 AM

I’m sure he’d be 15 pts down if he ran against Floyd the Barber.
T.O.A.S.T.
I wish they’d do a poll on Evan Bayh. He’s my senator. BTW, check out http://www.gomarlin.com. That’s who I’m going to support as Bayh’s replacement. Gotta get Marlin through the GOP primary though.

Oink on December 29, 2009

Marlin Stutzman looks like a good man for the job. Good luck with that Indiana. You have a tough row to hoe in retiring Bayh. He’s just so darned pretty.

Extrafishy on December 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Shahid.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM

but he may want to rethink that vote on its next pass through the Senate

i wonder if it matters, it’s already out there…he voted for the boondoggle…

cmsinaz on December 29, 2009 at 11:23 AM

He needs all of his and his families bank accounts checked out.

This guy got all kinds of pay offs…..soros pitched in for sure…

Where is the GOP……

nondhimmie on December 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Photo caption should be spelled “deserts” not “desserts”…although Senator Nelson doesn’t look like he misses many hot fudge sundaes.

FLcapitalistthug on December 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM

These poll results just go to show that Nebraskans are great Americans, and they elected Nelson believing he would represent them properly which he did not. They will I believe, without a doubt vote him out in 2012.

royzer on December 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Throw the bum out!

He ignored the wishes of a large majority of his constituents. That sort of thinking needs to be put to rest. Those clowns do not know what is best for us. Most of them have lost all grasp of reality.

joedoe on December 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Ben’s betting on his constituents forgetting his sellout by 2012. Let’s hope they don’t.

anXdem on December 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Well if the majority of Nebraska voters are anything like the few I personally know, forgetting is not likely to happen.

whbates on December 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

The fact that the voters actually have a higher set of moral and fiscal principles seems to have come as a shock to the senator.

jon1979 on December 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Curses! Foiled again by that damned FOX News and right-wing talk radio!

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I wonder if the W.H. has F.B.I. files on Democrats (or “opposition research” from private detectives) which they pull out just before crucial votes. Clearly Nelson must have known that this vote was career suicide.

I’d also be interested in poll results for Sen. Bill Nelson of Fl. who is one of the slimiest snakes ever, and who has not received enough credit/blame for the gazillion dollar boondoggle for Floridians, who are, er, grandfathered in to Medicare Advantage while the rest of us get screwed.

Buy Danish on December 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Maybe Cornhuskers are not as dumb as they look…

tommylotto on December 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Um, thanks. We won’t forget. If the bill passes, as I understand it, taxes will be raised immediately, at least on some of us. So while the “benefits” of this bill won’t kick in for a while, the taxes will. That should stoke our memories until 2012.

NebCon on December 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Ben will have to fly Harry Reid in to explain the wonders of ObamyCare.

That should create a landslide for Ben.

notagool on December 29, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Throw ALL the bums out!

I’d trust the guy who runs the shop down the street in Congress to all these disconnected, Ivy League, career political leeches!

THROW THEM OUT!!!!!

Daddy-O on December 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Thanks for the memories .Turn out the lights the party maybe over.

thmcbb on December 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Now he has to be made a pariah in his hometown during his forced retirement.

marklmail on December 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Hope he enjoys Boca Raton and doesn’t leave any family behind. The name “Nelson” will be spit upon for the next 20 years in Nebraska.

Jaibones on December 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Flush congress!

Mojave Mark on December 29, 2009 at 11:31 AM

So that’s what “happiness” and “wonderment” looks like, huh?

Kensington on December 29, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Yeah, but the 2010 elections are months away, which is an eternity in American politics.

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I must correct myself before some else does. Nelson is not up for re-election until 2012, which is even worse, since it will allow even more time for people to forget how he voted on Obamacare.

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Now is the time for the GOP to promise, in big, ugly ads that we won’t let ANYONE forget who helped us on this road to socialism.

anniekc on December 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Folks, people are not going to forget! Americans have been complacent for far too long but we’re now waking up.

There’s enough ammo to use in campaign ads to run 1000 campaigns.

You know, if our economy was up and humming and unemployment was down to… say 7 or 8% by November 2010, the DEMS might have a chance, but we know it won’t be that way. It is going to take YEARS to rebuild consumer confidence and that right there is what’s holding us back. Who wants to spend an extra dime on anything when most of us are saving and paying off debt as quickly as possible? Don’t know about you all, but I’m holding on to my money really tightly. Afraid to spend it.

Oink on December 29, 2009 at 11:37 AM

He doesn’t care, he already got paid. The dollar bills yo…

sonofdy on December 29, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Its no longer enough for me that they just lose their elections. These scumbags are ripping apart our constitution. They are enacting laws that are destroying peoples lives, destroying wealth, affecting property values, incomes, businesses, freedoms and now health care. Our very lives are in jeopardy when you consider death panels and everything else in this scam of a bill.

I’ve read a lot about CEO’s and their “golden parachutes.”
And, it’s never been good.
In fact, Barney Frank last year stated the following: “It’s inconceivable that people would say the taxpayer should put some money at risk because of bad decisions made by people who would then continue to be rewarded without any restriction and, in fact, would be rewarded for their mistakes,” the merciless chairman argued.”
Here’s what the honorable Chuck Schumer said about golden parachutes: “It is wrong to have executives who have created all kinds of problems and cost the taxpayer millions, if not billions, then walk away with golden parachutes,” Sen. Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) told MSNBC. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR2008092202849.html

So, why should congressmen and women be allowed to walk away with millions of dollars in retirement after costing the American people billions!?
What does Ben Nelson himself think? From his own website:
“Executives who presided, or now preside, over these distressed financial institutions should not be rewarded at the expense of American taxpayers,” said Nelson.
http://bennelson.senate.gov/press/press_releases/122208-01.cfm
They have turned America into a distressed financial institution! They are bankrupting this country as they shred our constitution!
By their own words they do not deserve to leave congress with millions of tax payer dollars!
Time to put an end to the golden parachutes in congress!

JellyToast on December 29, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Throw ALL the bums out!

Daddy-O on December 29, 2009 at 11:29 AM

I’d certainly support a Constitutional Convention that replaced the entire congress en masse.

MassVictim on December 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM

jon1979 on December 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Right after the vote for cloture the local radio stations found some state democrat to say what a wonderful deal this was for Nebraska. And the democratic party ran ads trying to say how good our healthcare will be.

He’s going to be on the radio for an hour today, from 5-6pm. They’re not letting anybody call in – because of the importance of the subject. If I didn’t have to be at work then I’d think about showing up at the radio station with some signs that gave my thoughts – since I’ve never been able to get through to even leave a voice message on ANY of his phone lines in the past 3 weeks of trying.

There is a way to submit potential questions for Tom Becka to ask Nelson. My question: Is there anything that the Commerce Clause DOESN’T allow and anything that the Tenth Amendment actually forbids?

justincase on December 29, 2009 at 11:44 AM

He looks like a muppet.

LtE126 on December 29, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Ooops! sorry. I commented on someones looks. Sorry Harry.

LtE126 on December 29, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Well if the majority of Nebraska voters are anything like the few I personally know, forgetting is not likely to happen.

whbates on December 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Omaha and Lincoln have a few shaky citizens, but I suspect Ben won’t be doing a grin and greet with the Sandhills ranchers anytime soon. They’re a pretty salty bunch.

a capella on December 29, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Nelson due to become eligible for ObamaCare in 2012.

BobMbx on December 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Rasmussen: Ben Nelson down 30 points to Heineman after health-care reversal

He’s going to have to change his name to Ben Dover.

UltimateBob on December 29, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I watched Nelson explain himself on the floor. What a skunk

However, I agree with BobMbx on December 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM.

Nelson is over the hill and obviously does not care if the door hits his rear on the way out, and his rear is so hardened it would feel no pain

Watching Senators bloviate on CSPAN is a painful experience

I used to use the Roman Senate, as depicted in the series I, Claudius as an example of degeneracy of institution, but our Senate is more digusting, because these Senators are (theoretically) free men. They choose to speak like this, to be like this. Amazing

entagor on December 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM

We’re all Nebraskans now!

therealfranklin on December 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM

. Just 17% of Nebrasaka voters approve of the deal their Senator made on Medicaid in exchange for his vote.

Nelson’s big mistake was that he is not a senator from Illinois where someone is rewarded for bringing graft home.

MB4 on December 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM

do you honesly think that Nebraskans are stupid enough to forget about this by 2012? I do not. Once the mandated fees start being deducted from their bank accounts with no benefits comimng until 2014, heads will roll and the anger will definately kick in.

Winebabe on December 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM

To expand upon my above point on golden parachutes. Perhaps a good way to enact this, would be a special vote after a congressman leave office. In the following election a special item needs placed on the ballot in his her district or state. “Should Senator/congressperson Blah be allowed to retain their 5 million dollars (fill in the amount)in retirement?”

JellyToast on December 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM

In related news;
Senator Nelson D. NE
has asked the Senate to pass and Pinnochio to sign a law giving the Nebraska Cornhusker Football (Big Red) team one of the opposing teams downs on each possesion.
Thus the Cornhuskers will forevermore get 5 downs to attempt a first down while the opposing teams will get just 3!
This should help the Cornhuskers in their bid to win a game immensly.
It is not certain what at this point Ben Nelson has given Pinnochio in return for this legislation perhaps a yes vote on sending the GITMO Jihadis to Illinios or any other state but his!
Sarc/off

dhunter on December 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM

To expand upon my above point on golden parachutes. Perhaps a good way to enact this, would be a special vote after a congressman leave office. In the following election a special item needs placed on the ballot in his her district or state. “Should Senator/congressperson Blah be allowed to retain their 5 million dollars (fill in the amount)in retirement?”

JellyToast on December 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM

great point!

ted c on December 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I think this will send shockwaves through the Dem party. Nelson was figuring that he could compensate his turncoat vote by bringing home pork, but that tactic ain’t good anymore. Voters vote based on their values and right now the biggest value is thrift. Everyone is cutting back, saving, and watching their pennies to get through this tough economic times. They expect their representatives to mirror those values in how they spend the taxpayer’s money.

Nelson is like the guy who brought home his wife a mink coat as a peace offering when the family is trying to make ends meet. He expects her to swoon, but her reaction is more likely to be: “honey thank you, BUT ARE YOU NUTS???!!!”

The problem for the Dem party is that there coalition is kept together with pork so when the voters reject the very notion of the goodness of pork, what do they have left to offer?

PackerBronco on December 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Just a thought, there were fifty nine other nuts that could have killed this bill and some of them were stupid enough to support it without being bribed (at least publicly).

duff65 on December 29, 2009 at 12:19 PM

dhunter, that’s exactly what this feels like. It feels like Nelson is saying Nebraska is too cheap to pull its fair weight. Heineman said it well when he said we don’t want a special deal but just a fair deal. A lot of the reports left out what preceded that statement of Heineman’s, though. Greta asked him if he wants the Medicare money sent back. Heineman’s response: Absolutely!!

The dems may need to win by cheating, but that’s not the Nebraska way, and Ben Nelson is a jerk and clueless if he doesn’t even know that about Nebraskans by now.

justincase on December 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Okay, something is wrong here. I posted twice and it did not show up. And I didn’t even use naughty words.

atheling on December 29, 2009 at 12:21 PM

JellyToast on December 29, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Makes me almost understand why the French went berserk during their revolution.

“It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged.” – GK Chesterton

atheling on December 29, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Nebraska, you kick major ass! Nice job standing up to this traitorous, sellout whore. He is a filthy, liberal Democrat whore who sold his vote to another whore, Harry Reid, thinking it would buy off Nebraskans and keep his sorry pathetic ass in office. This liberal whore will reap the whirlwind in 2012… Hes GONE. So is Lincoln and Landreu

Jackson1227 on December 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Looks like my comment won’t post if I use quotes.

atheling on December 29, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Doesn’t matter. Harry Reid will lose next year, he doesn’t care. This is the liberal wet dream. A few election losses won’t stop them.

angryed on December 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Heh. I told ya he would “retire” in 2012. Yummy! Sweet justice: it’s what’s for dinner!

NathanG on December 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM

He he most likely has been promised something above and beyond for his Medicare sellout vote.
Johnnyreb on December 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

To what end though? Yes he likely stands to grab some more pork but he is out in 34 months so how much can he really cram into that time frame?

He’s through, traded it all for The One. One dopey Dim for sure.

FireBlogger on December 29, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Nelson won’t have to answer for it until 2012, but he may want to rethink that vote on its next pass through the Senate.

Am I correct that any bill that comes back to the Senate from conference doesn’t have to pass another cloture vote? If so, Sen. Nelson may vote “no”, but Nebraskans would see it for the sleazy move it would be. The state GOP would likely make sure of that.

tgharris on December 29, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Nebrascans have long memories; they’ll get him in 2012.

jgdp on December 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM

If I have my information correct, a healthcare “yea” vote is toxic through 2012 because the supposed benefits don’t start until 2013 while the ruthless taxes start immediately. I’m not sure how the dems think that the electorate will have a short memory when they are paying heavy taxes on a daily basis.

With the Obama campaign the dems have opened the Pandora’s box of citizen activism…..not just with the leftist loons, but with the conservatives and indies as well. RE the Tea Parties etc. The repulsion we all feel at the irresponsible spending will not abate with time.

csdeven on December 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Is Nebrasaka in Japan?

I kid, I kid…

fossten on December 29, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Nebraskans remember football scores for generations, remembering what Sen. Nelson did to the nation for a mere 3 years will be a breeze.

True Nebraskans are a very proud and honest group and we would never expect to benefit from the sacrifice of others.

The only reason Nelson’s numbers aren’t any lower is because I’m overseas and they didn’t poll me!

JetBlast on December 29, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I don’t get it.

I thought that the whole purpose of pork was to buy votes. But what Nelson did cost him votes. So why did he do it?

29Victor on December 29, 2009 at 1:17 PM

30%, does Nebraska have a recall provision? No, so he will vote against the bill because they will need only 51 to pass it.

right2bright on December 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Nelson may think in for a penny in for a pound of flesh. Or he may believe that his individual political career may be sacrificed for the greater good of perpetual democrat control of government and the sacrifice of liberty to government control that this monstrous health care deform legislation and cap and trad would accomplish. It’s no wonder democraps gave aid and comfort to kamikazi operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, since that now appears to be their modus operandi in crafting legislation.

eaglewingz08 on December 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Nebraskans, don’t wait until 2012. Contact your state legislators and demand that they create a recall process.

CJ on December 29, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Come 2012, Nelson will have voted “no” on the final bill, since they need only 51 votes. And the people will say “He is good because he voted against it”…and he will be re-elected….unless, Nebraskan’s make a bold move and issue a recall petition.
Yes, there is no recall officially, but un-officially you recall him and keep it in the news…

right2bright on December 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Come 2012, Nelson will have voted “no” on the final bill, since they need only 51 votes. And the people will say “He is good because he voted against it”…and he will be re-elected….unless, Nebraskan’s make a bold move and issue a recall petition.
Yes, there is no recall officially, but un-officially you recall him and keep it in the news…

right2bright on December 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Not going to work this time. Too many people are paying attention to this and too many people are aware now that voting for cloture is effectively a vote for the bill itself.

What’s really going to happen is this – as these poll numbers continue for Ben (particularly after the wave election coming in November 2010), sometime in 2011 Ben will decide to retire to “spend more time with my family.”

Politically, he’s done. Stick a fork in him.

thirteen28 on December 29, 2009 at 3:44 PM

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