Video: Now the system didn’t work
posted at 8:48 am on December 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Matt Lauer gets to ask the question that he rightly says is on everyone’s mind: how could Janet Napolitano say that “the system worked” when the only things between the passengers of NW 253 and disaster were the passengers themselves and a faulty detonator? Napolitano says she was taken out of context, and by the way, Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush (via Charlie Foxtrot):
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The rules on the lists have been in place since 2006. The Obama administration has been in office since January. If the rules on transferring people from watch lists to no-fly lists are a problem, shouldn’t that have been a higher priority than, say, revamping the entire American health-care system or pushing cap-and-trade bills? It seems like a bigger priority than flying to Copenhagen twice and coming home empty-handed both times, once on climate change and once on the Olympics. Of course, Barack Obama doesn’t have to worry about flying with radical jihadis from Nigeria when he travels abroad.
As for being taken out of context, Power Line has the quote from yesterday:
NAPOLITANO: What we are focused on is making sure that the air environment remains safe, that people are confident when they travel. And one thing I’d like to point out is that the system worked. Everybody played an important role here. The passengers and crew of the flight took appropriate action.
When she said “the system worked,” Napolitano wasn’t talking just about the other flights, but also NW253. Do any of the passengers on that flight think they were supposed to be part of the system?
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Look at the bright side – she’s not my Governor any more. Unfortunately, another clueless idiot took her place.
Mr_Magoo on December 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Profiling now! The system will not work so long as the simple fact is ignored in the name of political correctness. The reality is that if you are a young Muslim male, you should expect to be searched (full body cavity search if that is what it takes). Instead it is far more likely the 80-year-old protestant retiree is apt to be pulled aside by the mouth-breathers running the TSA checkpoints.
highhopes on December 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Than say, posing for every magazine cover known to man, playing hoops and partying every Wednesday night and appearing on late night comedy shows.
JellyToast on December 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM
When seconds count, help is usually minutes away.
Johan Klaus on December 28, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Ahhh… I wondered how long it would be before “taken out of context” was dragged out of the closet, dusted off and paraded about like a new Easter hat.
Liberals love nothing more than to claim they were “taken out of context”, even though everyone saw the entire interview containing the quote.
I do not think those words mean what Liberals think they mean. (With apologies to Inigo Montoya.)
jana on December 28, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Your bright side is killing this country. She doesn’t have to be your governor but she shouldn’t be running the DHS. In fact, she isn’t even qualified to be a TSA screener.
highhopes on December 28, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Mr Napolitano should resign now !
Hummer53 on December 28, 2009 at 9:41 AM
It’s a wonder something like this hasn’t happened more frequently over the past nine years.
I understand there are 25 more of these dudes in Yemen getting set to carry out their attacks.
Think we’ll get this fixed in time?
Otis B on December 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
So she puts a spin on her comment from yesterday.
I’m sure Matt Lauer had her quote, word for word.
Why didn’t he call her on it?
And why can’t pigs fly?
Pazman on December 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Secretary Napolitano is out of context with the rest of U.S.
Changing the meaning of “War on Terror” and “Terrorism” is a tactic found in totalitarian regimes. The objective of this maneuver is well known by U.S. as “Bait and Switch”, so the regimes population is properly indoctrinated into the dictators perception of what is good and what is bad. In this case, terrorists are not bad, they are just misunderstood, and being persecuted.
Now that the “LIST” are known and it appears that there are problems with them, it is time to fix them. But, you now are dealing with an area that is classified (sensitive) and do not have a “NEED TO KNOW”, so thanks for highlighting a problem now go on with your life and let this regime fix it. Schindler would be so proud.
MSGTAS on December 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Well, yeah it was a mistake, but, IIRC, Bush was opposed to it and resisted it’s creation, but the Blue Ribbon Panel with the concerted effort of Congress to “Do something!” won the day. Now I have little doubt Bush’s tinkering compromises had some effect on the disaster that is DHS, but also IIRC, he did win the argument on something about the employment criteria (fire-ability, no-striking or something) which would have been a real disaster if the libs in Congress had had their way.
Dusty on December 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Time to waterboard this clown and find out exactly where and when these attacks are set to take place?
“Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, charged with the attempted Christmas Day bombing of Northwest Airlines flight 253, told FBI agents there were more just like him in Yemen who would strike soon.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/abdulmutallab-yemen/story?id=9430536
Otis B on December 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Bush’s program failed us here.
This is obviously a criminal issue, not a terrorist problem. The new Homeland Security policy will be for the people on the plane to call 911 on their cell phones if they see someone trying to blow up the aircraft.
Then the Police and the ACLU will be waiting for the alleged felon when the plane lands.
PS: Yesterday, I was in an airport security line in Las Vegas and a little old lady was forced to get out of her wheelchair and stagger through the security machine. It really made me feel saft. Way to go TSA!
Uniblogger on December 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Janet is also gender confused. Security confused and gender confused. She doesn’t understand how biology systems work either.
Her mom and dad knew how systems work.
seven on December 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM
You guys just don’t get Demspeak.
Mr Purple on December 28, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Never a better warning that each and everyone of us should be doing those things that prepare for “fending for yer own damn self”.
Yoop on December 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM
The context was clear, and she’s a liar.
The problem with this administration is that there are so many screw-ups, lies, and scandals on a daily basis that no one can hang onto one for long enough to get anything done about it before the next one lands.
Merovign on December 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM
O/T but freedom-loving citizens should be on HIGH ALERT. This is a timely distraction. What is the “other hand” doing???
indypat on December 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM
She’s using a fallacy that is related to the “data mining” fallacy involving the tapping of phones. The fallacy is that they need to listen to everyone’s phone conversations to pick out who the terrorists are instead of run the known terrorist’s number and see who he is talking to. She’d have us believe that they need to examine a half million files before they could pull out the information they want.
Buddahpundit on December 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM
It’s Bush’s fault.
jgapinoy on December 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM
The problem with DHS is that it has no real power to do anything it supposedly is charged with doing. Each individual agency under DHS does its budgeting independently and the DHS doesn’t have the authority to tinker with these budgets or cross dollars from one agency to another. The DHS doesn’t coordinate efforts between agencies or provide an overall vision beyond the “stay safe” mantra. In fact, the DHS is nothing but a layer of bureaucracy. In that regard it is unfair to blame Nepolitano for her incompetence. She doesn’t really do that much to begin with and she’s even doing a miserable job of that. The people that elected her Governor truly must have been morons.
highhopes on December 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Pigs are used for sniffing out truffles.
Now is the time to switch over from the use of bomb-sniffing dogs to bomb-sniffing pigs.
You kind of get a two-fer…
Yoop on December 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM
“Out of context” This would be funny if we were talking about a stand up comedian, but this idiot is responsible for protecting the United States.
We are so screwed.
dogsoldier on December 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Waiting for the Israeli attack on Iran. The retaliation may be more than we bargained for.
Otis B on December 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Where was the sensitivity to “context” when the Left manufactured outrage over Bush’s “yellowcake” comment in his SotU address…..?
JohnTant on December 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Lying is as natural to these people as breathing.
Or to put it another way, they don’t even accept the concept of a lie.
If they say it, it’s the truth.
In their pervert brains, they define their own reality.
This is just one of the legion of examples that prove my point.
In normal life, we call them psychopaths.
notagool on December 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I watch Peter Johnson put this woman through the tree chipper feet first. She could not help herself by claiming that this terrorist had received his visa in 2008 – another indictment of the Bush administration that is now clique to the point of absurdity. She beclowned herself yesterday repeatedly and is back today to repeat the performance. She has no business washing the windows at DHS never mind running it. The howls of protest demanding her resignation/firing are pointless because she is not the problem. The president is the problem. She is, as are all of Obama’s minions, in ideological lockstep with him. Don’t think for a moment that there is something unusual about Napolitano that doesn’t equally apply to Jarrett or Jones or anyone else in the administration.
I think that it is divine intervention (or just dumb luck for my atheist friends) that the detonator failed on Christmas day. Next time we will not be as lucky.
Meanwhile, we delude ourselves into a false sense of security by taking off our shoes and belts at the security checkpoint while ignoring the plain fact that there is a specific, identifiable group of people that is actively engaged in trying to kill us.
Somewhere this morning I read a comment that quoted an Israeli security official as saying the problem with our security approach is that we look for weapons and that they look for terrorists. Exactly correct. We really need to adopt the proceedures that the Israelis have in place. They do not have this problem. At. All.
turfmann on December 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Ummm, Janet.
The only system that worked in this instance is the jihadi system of infiltrating airport security and boarding a plane headed for the USA with an explosive device intact.
Your system of pervention is a miserable failure.
booter on December 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM
May I get to the essence of this whole thing?
She’s a liar.
paul1149 on December 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM
uhbuhma’s marching orders…”Say anything you want…the voters are stupid and the media will cover for us”…
winston on December 28, 2009 at 10:04 AM
This whole Administration is a living, breathing example of The Peter Principle. They have all been promoted past their level of competance.
kingsjester on December 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM
As one who has had to live under her “administrations” all I can say is were all in for a long ride, because she’s an idiot. Trust Me!!
mmcnamer1 on December 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM
They (Democrats) will say anything, anytime, heedless of facts, history or experience and maintain through it all that they are the diviners of truth.
They must be physically removed.
mr1216 on December 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM
I’m more than a little confused here. Why were we not lectured not to jump to conclusions about the terrorist’s motives the way we were with Hassan? Is this not the same thing- radical Muslim seeking to kill others?
For that matter, why should the TSA or individuals be forced to discern between “good Muslims” and “Jihadi Muslims.” This is a job for Muslims to do for themselves. In the meantime, all Muslims should be deemed potential terrorists until they prove themselves otherwise. This is a far better deal than Nepolitano gave when she blanketly declared all returning war vets to be potential terrorists.
highhopes on December 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Somewhere this morning I read a comment that quoted an Israeli security official as saying the problem with our security approach is that we look for weapons and that they look for terrorists. Exactly correct. We really need to adopt the proceedures that the Israelis have in place. They do not have this problem. At. All.
I saw that too Turfman, and i believe this is a statement that should be shouted from the ROOFTOPS! !!!
max1 on December 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Great point. If they are, those passengers that foiled the plot deserve the money that DHS failed to use properly. I’d trust anyone of them more than Napolitano. Am I wrong?
shick on December 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I’m guessing the authorities got a fair amount of info (and cooperation) with Umar just after he was arrested because he was probably still drugged. Several comments from other passengers suggested he was calm and showed little reaction to pain. He had to be high.
So Umar probably boasted during his ride to the hospital about what he and other terrorist could and would do.
I hope the FBI and HLS made the most of it while they could.
Now, I’m sure that he has a lawyer, and will begin denying everything.
Pazman on December 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I wonder whether Hannity will have Frank Luntz on tonight to critique the language of Luntz’s twin sister. It might put Frank in an awkward position, but he has to do it.
BuckeyeSam on December 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM
So, Janet was taken out of context and this whole incident was Bush’s fault. Are those the talking points of the day? Man, we got a long 3 years ahead of us…….. if we survive all the crotch bombers out there.
joedoe on December 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Pazman on December 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I hope they got some more info out of him and we are doing something about it, but I think I’ll cancel that flight just to be safe.
Otis B on December 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Sorry to disagree but I don’t think she is lying. I think she is actually so stupid and clueless that she really believes that the system worked. That is much more dangerous than lying.
Yoop on December 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM
So what part of “the system” worked to ensure that the detonator would be faulty?
NeighborhoodCatLady on December 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Lock and load!
Johan Klaus on December 28, 2009 at 10:19 AM
I think the “no fly list” angle here sucks for us. Remember that Bush’s original “no fly list” rule would probably have stopped this guy from getting on the plane. But Bush tightened the “no fly list” rules in response to complaints by civil liberty folks. Our intel folks obviously didn’t have enough specific evidence on this guy to bump him up to the “no fly list.” Either way, focusing on the “no fly list” policy puts unwanted attention back on the Bush years, so we should avoid it.
The real story here is why TSA isn’t policing the security screening procedures used in third world airports. This guy got his bomb on that plane because he slipped through Nigeria’s crappy airport security. Then, when he got on his connecting flight in Amsterdam, he apparently was not re-screened. That’s a good “bureaucracy and PC endanger the public” angle and a harder one for the Dems to throw back in our faces.
Outlander on December 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Total B+ effort there.
Illinidiva on December 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Yes, you are. The passengers “foiled” the plot only because the bomber was incompetent and had improperly assembled his bomb. Likewise, the passengers on Flight 93 were unable to save the plane, but were (thankfully) able to stop the terrorists from blowing up the White House.
Look, I’m a huge fan of empowering ordinary folks, and I recognize, acknowledge, and appreciate the heroism of the passengers on this flight (and Flight 93) for going toe-to-toe with trained terrorists. But airline passengers aren’t trained counterterrorist operatives, and shouldn’t have to be.
Outlander on December 28, 2009 at 10:25 AM
How stupid and useless is this particular lying pol? She was Democrat governor of the great state of Arizona. How stupid were we?
Thank you President Obama for this wonderful demonstration of the Peter Principle. Napolitano’s incompetence can no longer be disguised by a fawning media.
exdeadhead on December 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Big Sis gives everyone a warm fuzzy feeling doesn’t she?
d1carter on December 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM
You just hide in the corner and watch.
thomasaur on December 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I agree with you completely. I was speaking sarcastically but failed to indicate so. Sorry.
shick on December 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Actually, I wasn’t being sarcastic about who would run DHS.
shick on December 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM
If I’m gonna be part ‘of the security system’, I want a discount.
GarandFan on December 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM
would run=would run DHS better than Napolitano.
I keep correcting my comments. Ok, I’m done for the day.
shick on December 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM
The scary part is that Nepolitano acts as if passengers are duty-bound to take out the terrorists that manage to get through the screening process overseen by the TSA. I can easily imagine her blaming the passengers for not responding quickly enough to foil a terrorist plot. That is an unacceptable answer and both she and the head of the TSA need to be fired for this incident. Incompetence on the bombers part does not mitigate the incompetence of the federal government.
highhopes on December 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
10 years from now BO will still be blaming Bush. These people are clueless. She could be leading an expedition in a jungle and pointing to go in one direction while the guide says no it’s the other way. That’s when the porters drop everything and leave. She can tweak the passenger rules all she wants, the bad guys will work around them and next time a plane will go down.
Kissmygrits on December 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Yep, solid B+ here Barry.
I know what we can do to make us all safer: make sure your first, middle and last names are on the ticket, just like is on your license.
That should do it.
stenwin77 on December 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Let me see…one way ticket, radical muslim, looks like middle easterner, buys ticket for cash….
Strip search that 70 year old gray haired women…
*
This is what you get when you suspend the war on terrorism, and decide to take on radio talk show hosts…
You can bet, Beck, Rush, Hannity, Thompson, Levine, and the rest will never succeed at a terrorist attack, they have them under close surveillance.
right2bright on December 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Napolitano is not just stupid- she is COLOSSALLY stupid.
Since when are pasengers part of the “system”???
Or does she mean that getting explosives onto the plane was supposed to happen and the plane was supposed to go down?
drjohn on December 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
That’s good…should we unionize?
right2bright on December 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
In fact, government retirement is great and on the job injury provides a life time of income…you are definitely onto something.
right2bright on December 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Janet, Janet, Janet….
cmsinaz on December 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM
The “system” that “worked” included passengers foiling the attempt. Wow! She’s bold. She’s also not very bright.
She’s lies because it’s what ideologues do when faced with negative facts. Deny the facts, blame someone else, call people names… If we want to be safe, we’re going to have to start shutting down courts and impeaching people. Until then, we’re victims in waiting.
ClanDerson on December 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Ever read the seat back saftey card? The one with the cartoons to show how to put your seatbelt on and where the emergency exits are? If you haven’t read one in a while, I recommend you do so the next time you fly.
Right there, on the last page, is a cartoon that shows how to subdue a terrorist. Also, although not widely advertised, you can request not to be seated in a terrorist row if you feel you can’t or are unable to subdue a terrorist.
BobMbx on December 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Galactically stupid. The only Tom Cruise line worth repeating.
BobMbx on December 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM
How could anyone believe that they are part of the security system when that system starts out with the presumption that everyone is a terrorist. Even a joke about a threat is likely to get you tased and land you in a gulag, so I hardly think that any airline passenger thinks they are on the same team as the TSA.
Greek Fire on December 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Wrong! The system assumes that explosive underwear hurts people and not terrorists.
shick on December 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I’d like to see them try that with my 82yr old mother–both her legs were amputated 2 yrs ago!!! And I guarantee they would feel the side-effects of her tongue, if they tried!
lovingmyUSA on December 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
FIRE NAPPYTIME NOW!
alliebobbitt on December 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Did the WH call their client network to give JaNa a second chance?
PattyJ on December 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Ya know? I wouldn’t have so much problem with ordinary citizens being part of the system if you gave us the tools to be part of the system, but you don’t. until then, don’t assume.
Bob's Kid on December 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I wonder:
How did this guy get off the plane alive?
TinMan13 on December 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I guess hiring a big, burly man to be head of Homeland security hasn’t scared off the terrorists after all…
PaulMorphy on December 28, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Have you ever been through Israeli security? Seriously, security at airlines here is a frigging joke. I just flew through both Phoenix and Denver airports yesterday. I forgot to take out my stupid plastic bag filled with contact solution from my carry on and no one even noticed.
The TSA is too G_DDAMNED stupid to notice actual threats when they can’t even do that right.
mjk on December 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Napolitano isn’t fit to chair a branch of the PTA.
Look at her fat, dumb, lying face. She doesn’t have a clue. H-e-l-l-o! Brain stem! Anything happening up there?
Yeah, we are in the very best of hands.
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RJGatorEsq. on December 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
I was in airport security at Phoenix and I swear you could have a nuclear device as a carry on and they wouldn’t have noticed. They are stupid as all get out.
mjk on December 28, 2009 at 11:34 AM
TinMan13 on December 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Obama voters made up the majority of passengers?
elderberry on December 28, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Hey, don’t forget Racism and Global Warming – most likely they have a hand in this nefarious plot also.
Fake8 on December 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
For the adults being in charge, they are acting like amateurs. Especially When they blame Boooooosh.
Hope and change? Uh uh….Dope and Blame. Too dopey to do it right and when they get caught, they blame someone else.
csdeven on December 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Hey Ho!
Whaddya know!
Time for Jannie No to go!
Hey Ho!
Whaddya know!
Time for Jannie No to go!
pilamaye on December 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Obama ducked out.
NW 253 lucked out.
PaulMorphy on December 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
I have a great tip on how they can move someone from the “watch list” to the “no-fly list”. Open Excel and right click the terrorists name under the “watch list” cell and choose the “Cut” option. Next find a blank space under the “no-fly” cell, right click and choose the “paste” option.
OxyCon on December 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
I’d say partially correct. We can’t give up on our weapons-focused approach to security, but we do need to make profiling a part of it.
I mean, an American dude from California named Adam Gadahn could carry a bomb onto a plane just as easily as a Nigerian guy named Abdulmutallab.
UltimateBob on December 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Um, yeah…
juanito on December 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Well, the silver lining here is that the “underwear bomb” that he was wearing probably burned his balls completely off, so he won’t be able to procreate.
UltimateBob on December 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Do you feel safer America? Are you better off financially than you were a year ago?
The most transparent administration evah is just a little opaque if you ask me.
hawkdriver on December 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM
This women (er, uh, or whatever she is) is laughable it’s just unfortunate the situation is not a laughing matter! She can spin all she wants but it will not change the fact she said “the system worked” and that statement was not taken out of context at all!
Furthermore she continues to say while the first part of the system failed the latter part of the system worked which is utter BS spin because as anyone in the security field (or any other field for that matter) knows the system is only as good as its weakest link!
Also, as Ed so correctly pointed out, since when have the flying public been a part of this system she speaks of? I fly on business and I don’t ever remember receiving any specialized training or a briefing on what my role is in this supposed system should a
terroristmanmade disaster incident occur!The fact is if ANY part of the system fails then the entire system has failed and no amount of spin from this incompetent fool changes that simple fact!
Yeah, the adults are in charge now, there is no real terrorist threat, they’re just “overseas contingency issues” or ” manmade disasters” man I feel so much safer now that the world loves us again and THE ONE is POTUS!
Incompetent delusional fools the lot of them!
Liberty or Death on December 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM
“They bought tickets for the flight, so they’re part of the system.”
“Lower morgage rates = a tax cut.”
– Barack Hussein 0bama, mmm mmm mmm
UltimateBob on December 28, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I believe they also look at Behavioral clues, not just racial makeup, but to the National Socialist Democrats that’s still profiling.
Until they figure out the difference – if they ever do – we all are in deep do-do.
Fake8 on December 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Heh, great minds and all that. I was thinking the exact same thing when she made her original “the system worked” statement and again with all of her latest spin…”you keep saying that phrase but I don’t think it means what you think it means.”
The fact of the matter is any kind of system is only as good as its weakest link, if ANY part of that system fails then the entire system is a FAILURE!
I give JaNo and this entire administration not an F- (as that assumes they have made an effort) no instead I’ll have to give them a big fat INCOMPLETE when it comes to their governing as it is obvious they haven’t done shiite!
Liberty or Death on December 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM
You should not be asking any questions Biaaaatch. You should know the answers already! Big Sis you are a Clown on Kool Aid…
BigMike252 on December 28, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Napolitano is a process wonk: as long as the process is followed, the process by definition “works” and everything is fine.
If the outcome is what you want, so much the better.
karl9000 on December 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
One thing nice about this failed attack. It used to be that only Americans were deputized as flight security. Now I see that the Europeans have become deputized as well. Nice.
Mojave Mark on December 28, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Absolutely! This is perhaps the most important part.
Let’s see, Abdulmutallab bought a one-way ticket, paid for it in cash, and did not have any baggage with him for a trans-Atlantic flight. If those signs don’t warrant a bit of questioning and a thorough strip search, I don’t know what does.
UltimateBob on December 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Unfortunately, I saw someone arguing online that deaths from driving cars kill far more people than terrorists taking down 20 planes a year. They argued that all security measures should therefore be eliminated. I’m sure they would argue the same about the importance of health insurance and GLOBAL WARMING!!
aikidoka on December 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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