Video: Northwest 253 passengers tell of thwarted terror attack; Update: Bomber’s dad reported him to feds? Update: Hoekstra says “may” have been in contact with Awlaki

posted at 10:19 am on December 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

A crew from WXYZ-TV in Detroit managed to interview a few of the passengers from Northwest 253 after the attempted terrorist attack by a self-proclaimed member of al-Qaeda attempted to blow it up. The passengers apparently learned the lesson from United 93 on 9/11, which is that when anyone threatens the plane, everyone becomes a security officer and acts accordingly. They stopped the terrorist before he could do any more harm, both to himself and others, but the description raises a few questions (via North Star National):

One passenger says that the terrorist’s pants were “on fire,” which corroborates the reports of severe burns he suffered. However, the next passenger interviewed reported that the terrorist was calm, not in shock at all. In other terrorist attacks, such as in Mumbai and Afghanistan, the terrorists got themselves so high on drugs that they were unable to feel pain. It sounds as if that may have been the case here, because anyone who had those kinds of burns — by some report, third-degree burns — would not be sitting calmly unless heavily medicated.

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

Update (AP): The Telegraph says the bomber might have studied in London as recently as last year. As for the security breach:

Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport, one of Europe’s busiest, enforces European carry-on luggage regulations including only allowing liquids in containers of 100ml or less that must be placed inside clear plastic bags. Connecting passengers, including those at Schiphol, should routinely reclear security when connecting from another country…

Airports in Nigeria do not typically conduct tests for explosive residue on passengers’ carry-on baggage and shoes. However, a spokesman for the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria said the airport in Lagos had cleared a US Transportation Security Administration audit in November…

Kieran Daly, an expert in aviation security, said that installing the type of security at airports to combat terrorism of the kind attempted on the Christmas Day Detroit-bound flight could be extremely costly and take a very long time. “The global task of getting that equipment installed will be very, very difficult within the sort of timescale that is required,” he said.

“The latest incident could in some respects be described as a success in that it shows that would-be terrorists are now having to resort to trying to get very small devices on board planes. Thanks to increased security, the sort of devices are now not big enough to actually bring down a plane. The terrorists have had to resort to more and more inadequate devices and they are a very long way from actually bringing down an aircraft.”

The bomber now claims he’s not linked to Al Qaeda. How’d he end up in that terror database then?

Update (AP): “I took him in a choke to the first class and all the people were like, ‘What’s going on?!”

Update (AP): A Nigerian paper says the bomber’s own father dropped a dime on him after his son’s jihadist invective started to freak him out.

The older Mutallab, as at the time of filing this report, had just left his Katsina hometown for Abuja to speak with security agencies, family sources say. According to the family members, Mutallab has been uncomfortable with the boy’s extreme religious views and had six months ago reported his activities to United States’ Embassy, Abuja and Nigerian security agencies.

The older Mutallab was said to be devastated on hearing the news of Abdul Farouk’s attempted bombing and arrest. A source close to him said he was surprised that after his reports to the US authorities, the young man was allowed to travel to the United States…

At the secondary school, he was known for preaching about Islam to his school mates and he was popularly called �Alfa�, a local coinage for Islamic scholar. After his secondary school, the suspect went to University College London to study engineering and later relocated to Egypt, and then Dubai. While in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, he declared to his family members that he did not want to have anything to do with any of them again.

Update (Ed): Hmmmm.  An indirect connection to Nidal Hasan and the Fort Hood shootings?  Via Mediate and Politico:

There was a suggestion of links between Abdulmutallab and radical US-born Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Aulaqi, who had contacts with the US army psychiatrist accused of gunning down 13 people at a Texas military base last month.

“He may have been in contact with the American imam al-Aulaqi,” Peter Hoekstra, the most senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee and a member of Congress for Michigan, told AFP.

“There are reports that he had contact and that he was recently in Yemen. The question we’ll have to raise is was this imam in Yemen influential enough to get some people to attack the US again.”

This sounds purely speculative at the moment, unless Hoekstra reveals more in an interview on Fox News Sunday tomorrow.  But if it’s true, it sounds as though Anwar al-Awlaki may have been trying to take command of a more active wing of the al-Qaeda network all by himself.  Too bad Awlaki may have survived that attack in Yemen after all.


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And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

The best I can come up with is that he was not searched after deplaning from his Nigerian connecting flight. Also the items were taped to his inner thigh and wouldn’t be found during all but the most intimate searches.

Guardian on December 26, 2009 at 10:24 AM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

Lots of radical Muslims in Amsterdam. (Remember that’s where Theo Van Gogh was murdered.) Perhaps some of them work at the airport.

Disturb the Universe on December 26, 2009 at 10:28 AM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

Come on its a Euro country. They’d love nothing more than an attack on America to feel good about their miserable lives.

promachus on December 26, 2009 at 10:28 AM

I agree with Guardian he probably wasn’t searched when he deplaned in Amsterdam. The airport security over there was likely too busy strip searching somebody’s grandmother or interrogating somebody for carrying a plastic shaving razor to worry about this guy.

uabalumn07 on December 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM

…his pants were on fire…

Well, in the interest of full disclosure, he was a liar liar.

fusionaddict on December 26, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Severe burns…..love the karma in that.

sheesh on December 26, 2009 at 10:30 AM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

For the same reason that Muslims are allowed to serve in the military, CIA, and FBI, and immigrate in droves to our country, despite all warning signs.

Americans and Europeans have become so scared of being labeled a “racist” (although Islam is not a race), if they profile or criticize Muslims. It is better just to let Muslims through security at airports or place them in high levels of the FBI, the military, or the CIA, instead of being labeled a “bigot” or “racist.”

Even Ed refuses to name the religion involved in this attack. He hasn’t used the word “Muslim” once in either post on this attempted terrorist attack. A lot of people, even “conservatives,” have succumbed to PC.

Gabe on December 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Severe burns…..love the karma in that.

sheesh on December 26, 2009 at 10:30 AM

In the groin area. Like Hasan the Fort Hood shooter (paralyzed from the chest down), he found out martyrdom isn’t all it’s cracked up to be if you fail.

Wethal on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Exit question is a no brainer…

Anal cavity can hold a lot of goodies. Long flight, ex-lax and a trip to the blue room will unload the cargo.

Secondly, Europe is now over run with Muslims more than we are here. In that Muslim population there are more extremists than they care to admit. They work in security, in all aspects of the airlines from food service to baggage and can get anything through the system they possibly can.
The PC environment in Europe will continue to erode ANY true security they once had and we’re heading in that direction folks unless we get real!

This is not hard to figure out. I don’t understand why this seems to baffle some people….

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

I think Guardian has it right. On connecting flights you don’t go through security again unless you leave the airport. I haven’t been on an International flight after 9/11, so I don’t know if the rules are different for those. Anyone else?

Well, unless you’re flying on an El Al flight, which is where we’re heading eventually. Unless we want to be like a banana republic. *sigh*

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

He was not an old white woman or a kid. When I took my family to Ireland they pulled my 15 year old daughter out and had her go through the process. All the while several middle eastern men walked on through. It was absurd!

faol on December 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM

i believe similar comments were made about the Glasglow terrorist. One was on fire, still trying to get the bombs close to the building entrance (just my memory, haven’t checked it out)

At any rate…drugs, high level commitment to mission, whatever, praise God he was stopped.

r keller on December 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Get a load of this headline.

Obama monitoring Delta flight
firecracker situation
Reuters, by Tabassum Zakaria
Posted By: GaGardener- 12/26/2009 9:05:51 AM

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM

They work in security, in all aspects of the airlines from food service to baggage and can get anything through the system they possibly can.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

I remember flying out of Ghana, West Africa about 12 years ago. Our visas and passports cleared, but we had one more snag to get onto the airplane. A uniformed gentleman was seated in the middle of a narrow concourse. The only way we were getting on the plane was paying him a “fee.”

It isn’t much of a stretch to think this Nigerian could’ve slipped the guards some cash to elude security with his explosives.

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Get a load of this headline.

Obama monitoring Delta flight
firecracker situation
Reuters, by Tabassum Zakaria
Posted By: GaGardener- 12/26/2009 9:05:51 AM
katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Disturb the Universe on December 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM

For what its worth, Schiphol has security check points at each gate, as opposed to leaving the secured area and coming back through a single check point as in the US.

HogsBreath on December 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM

We should note that it was the people who stopped the attack and not the government. So much for the billions wasted on airport security across the globe. All it has achieved is humiliation of honest citizens

lodge on December 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Obama monitoring Delta flight
firecracker situation
Reuters, by Tabassum Zakaria
Posted By: GaGardener- 12/26/2009 9:05:51 AM

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM

The guy is unprecedented in getting it wrong. You’d think they would wait a day to get all the facts on this one before declaring it a terrorist attack. Yet, the Hasan/Ft Hood case continues to mystify the Obama WH.

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM

One passenger says that the terrorist’s pants were “on fire,” which corroborates the reports of severe burns he suffered.

Pants “on fire”? The Secret Service talking about Obama on Air Force going to Hawaii?

Oh, wait, you mean literally “on fire.”

BuckeyeSam on December 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM

For what its worth, Schiphol has security check points at each gate, as opposed to leaving the secured area and coming back through a single check point as in the US.

HogsBreath on December 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Thanks. Is the security procedure the same as in the US?

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:43 AM

These azzholes know better than to try this crap Southwest, all of them know that SWA passangers will KILL them, not subdue them!

Tony737 on December 26, 2009 at 10:43 AM

The only way we were getting on the plane was paying him a “fee.”

It isn’t much of a stretch to think this Nigerian could’ve slipped the guards some cash to elude security with his explosives.

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Yes!

The third world operates within a completely different universe and until we understand that and react appropriately, we’re not going to do well.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Now even with the MSM’s best efforts this incident has been confirmed as a terrorist attack, I demand an investigation into MSNBC and other networks which tried to downplay this attack.

promachus on December 26, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Thanks. Is the security procedure the same as in the US?

It seemed a little laxer. Just a person checking boarding passes / passports, and a xray machine operator.

HogsBreath on December 26, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Didn’t he get on the plane in Nigeria? And couldn’t he have avoided Amsterdam airport security if he didn’t deplane in Amsterdam?

Sekhmet on December 26, 2009 at 10:47 AM

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Well, Singapore Airport checks all passengers even those in the connecting flights. If euros don’t that’s a big chink in the armor.

promachus on December 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

One passenger says that the terrorist’s pants were “on fire,” which corroborates the reports of severe burns he suffered. He apparently lied repeatedly until the combustion occured. FAA an TSA agents are debating a “truth-only” policy on all commercial flights…

coondawg on December 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Disturb the Universe on December 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Wonder if it’s any relation to Fareed, the infamous “Post American World” Zakaria.

Obama loves the guy and his “social justice” book. http://papercuts.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/what-obama-is-reading/

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

We should note that it was the people who stopped the attack and not the government. So much for the billions wasted on airport security across the globe. All it has achieved is humiliation of honest citizens

lodge on December 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I agree.

AnninCA on December 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM

One fine day, terrorists will try another dry run, and the passengers will kill one of the test-runners.

Sekhmet on December 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Ah, the Religion of Peace. At it again.

HadithHarry on December 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I’d just like to give a shout out to all my peeps.

/obama

LibTired on December 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM

P.S. Sure seems to be a lot of “clenched fisting” still going on around the world. How is this possible?

/sarc

HadithHarry on December 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM

lodge on December 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM

There seems to be a trend lately in that it’s the “PEOPLE” that are taking their world back.

Governments are failing their citizens miserably and from leadership to security, it’s the people that are rising to the surface…

Interesting. I smell revolution.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Singapore Airport checks all passengers even those in the connecting flights. If euros don’t that’s a big chink in the armor. – Prom

Raaaaaaaaacist!

Tony737 on December 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Sumpin is rotten in Denmark,er Amsterdam!!

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Mr. Daly, the global task of getting the airport security equipment installed would be easier and cheaper than the money wasted on the hoax of global warming and trying to fix the scam that is excess co2.

Kissmygrits on December 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM

No virgins for you!

farright on December 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Its really too bad and a shame,that the passengers
didn’t throw the Jihady out of the plane,perferably
at 20,000 feet,would of been nice!!!

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Since Homeland Security is doing a bang up job on
airline saftey,maybe its time to contract out the
Israel Airlines,so far,they have a flawless track
track record!!(Sarc).

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM

testing

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM

What do the savages get for only being wounded in their attack and not actually killed? There must be some sort of reward from Allah, if not then it is an outrage.

Bishop on December 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

Because he wasn’t a white Bible carrying Christian. Everybody knows white Bible carry Christians (especially one with a “Don’t Tread on Me” sticker on the Bible) are the real threats. Just ask Obama’s Homeland Security.

JellyToast on December 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Is anyone having trouble posting on this page?

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Since Homeland Security is doing a bang up job on
airline saftey,maybe its time to contract out the
Israel Airlines,so far,they have a flawless track
track record!!(Sarc).

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM

What’s the Sarc referring to?

LeBron on December 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM

“I took him in a choke to the first class and all the people were like, ‘What’s going on?!”

Ummm, prepare to be sued for assault. Not PC to attack a flaming terrorist.

petefrt on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Get a load of this headline.

Obama monitoring Delta flight
firecracker situation
Reuters, by Tabassum Zakaria
Posted By: GaGardener- 12/26/2009 9:05:51 AM

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM

katy: *Well ya know,let me be clear,that people are getting
all we weed up over some firecrackers,and um..ah..
um..we shouldn’t ah..rush to judgement ,ah..before the
ah..um..facts are ah..in and ah…um..ah..um..(snark)

*(I’m trying to imitate Hopeys response:)

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

lodge on December 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM

The people are taking things in their own hands because the government has failed them in every way. From leadership to security.

We’re on our own…

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

We should note that it was the people who stopped the attack and not the government.

The further we get from freedom and common sense, the more the people have to step up.

JellyToast on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

testing

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM

B+

Ronnie on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

true enough.

He still has a few rounds of golf yet before the big prime time presser though.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Since Homeland Security is doing a bang up job on
airline saftey,maybe its time to contract out the
Israel Airlines,so far,they have a flawless track
track record!!(Sarc).

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 10:59 AM
——————————————-
What’s the Sarc referring to?

LeBron on December 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM

LeBron: Just covering my bases,because it might offend some
body,and ugh,I put an extra word in there,one too
many tracks!!:)

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM

I hope the hero that stopped this guy isn’t burned too bad. He was taken to a hospital with burns.
L

letget on December 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM

We have a Christmas terrorist attack, but it takes three hours to notify Barack. What was he doing that he could not be notified for three hours? Must be one hell of a Hawaiian vacation to skip being POTUS for three hours.

ray on December 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM
true enough.

He still has a few rounds of golf yet before the big prime time presser though.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM

katy:Makes me think,of his comment about Iran being tiny,
and I bet,he isn’t taking the firecrackers too serio
usly!!:)

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Even Ed refuses to name the religion involved in this attack. He hasn’t used the word “Muslim” once in either post on this attempted terrorist attack. A lot of people, even “conservatives,” have succumbed to PC.

Gabe on December 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM

broken record

blatantblue on December 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM

A lot of people, even “conservatives,” have succumbed to PC.

Not me, I don’t give a damn what people think of me either. I was raised by my grandparents so I call a spade a spade just as they did.

royzer on December 26, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Tea partiers! Queen Nancy had it right all along. I’m sure she’s working on bringing out some tears. It may take a while though, there’s something blocking her ducts. I heard he was just trying to go to a tanning salon before the tax goes into effect.

Fuquay Steve on December 26, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Stoned Muslims killing people is a time-honored tradition.

“I coulda blew up a plane, but I got high…”

Akzed on December 26, 2009 at 11:19 AM

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM
true enough.

He still has a few rounds of golf yet before the big prime time presser though.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM

But the question is, who will he give a shout out to, before his statement about the unprecedented man made event.

Fuquay Steve on December 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Obama monitoring Delta flight

katy on December 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM

So he’s like, watching developments on CNN or what?

If this had happened on Bush’s watch and Bush continued his vacation, the MSM would be going apey.

Otis B on December 26, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Apologies to any HA commenters who are male, between 20 and 50 years old, and who might resemble a Mid-Easterner, but anyone fitting that description should be subjected to extreme scrutiny, including body cavity searches, before boarding a plane, train, or subway.

I’m tired of this PC crap, particularly when it comes to security.

TXUS on December 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM

CNN is also reporting that Mutallab was not screened in Amsterdam:

“The [federal law enforcement and airline security] sources told CNN that the suspect flew into Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam on a KLM flight from Lagos, Nigeria, and is not believed to be on any “no fly” list, although his name does appear in a U.S. database of people with suspect connections. He did not undergo secondary security screening in Amsterdam, an administration official said.”

The officials at Schipol are consistently refusing media requests for comment.

Nichevo on December 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM

It sounds as if that may have been the case here, because anyone who had those kinds of burns — by some report, third-degree burns — would not be sitting calmly unless heavily medicated.

When I was a kid I got second and third degree burns on my right hand when a package of fireworks exploded in it. I didn’t get all excited. I just went in the house and said I burned my hand. We cooled it and went to the doctor. Also, as an EMT I treated a woman who had second and third degree burns on her face, arms, and hands. She was more worried about the dogs that were trapped in her burning barn than herself. Sometimes people are so shocked about what happened they just don’t realize what is going on. Also, in third degree burns the nerve endings can be burned off so you don’t feel anything anyway. It’s a bad sign when a burn patient says it doesn’t hurt.

boomer on December 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM

which is that when anyone threatens the plane, everyone becomes a security officer and acts accordingly.

Why, exactly, do we even need TSA anymore?

Oldnuke on December 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Interesting related story

Otis B on December 26, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Ummm, prepare to be sued for assault. Not PC to attack a flaming terrorist.
petefrt on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Gives a new non-politically correct meaning to the word “flaming.”

Nalea on December 26, 2009 at 11:34 AM

No virgins for you!

farright on December 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Moot point. He incinerated his equipment.

Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Anal cavity can hold a lot of goodies. Long flight, ex-lax and a trip to the blue room will unload the cargo.

Katy–you are loud and clear, LOL. Remember the recent attack on the Saudi Royal with an IED up the pooper. He was also hiding in Yemen beforehand. I shiver to think of how the TSA might respond, if true. One experience per year in the Dr’s office is enough.

A.C. McCloud on December 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

…six months ago reported his activities to United States’ Embassy, Abuja and Nigerian security agencies.

W.T.F.

Was he doing a “research project” too????

PattyJ on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

He could have passed as a diabetic and had access to a syringe and whatever drug he needed to do the deed.

Mommynator on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

***
This Jihadi seems like a clown wannabee. A properly trained bomber would have tested the bomb design first and would have made sure it worked properly. And would have provided an “instant” detonator–not a “light the fuse” type initiator.
***
If this guy was an engineer he sure didn’t learn much in school. And while the passengers did a good job “taking him down”–it would have been too late if the bomb design had been better. It only took a pound of Semtex to bring down the Lockerbie Pan Am airliner. And the tens of thousands of TSA screeners can never check everyone for butt bombs.
***
Driving looks better to me all the time–no terrorists in my back seat!
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Otis B on December 26, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Unreal…

I’m shocked a blown plane hasn’t happened… yet.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Let’s see; the terrorist’s father reported his son to the US Embassy but that same State Dept supposedly issued him a visa to enter the US. Ah, in this day of computers, why was he allowed to enter the US. Since this is not the first time the State Department has screwed up, heads should, but won’t, roll.

amr on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Wasn’t there a joke that people were thankful Richard Reid wasn’t known as the “Underwear bomber”?

What is the TSA going to do now about this threat?

Chip on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

The people are taking things in their own hands because the government has failed them in every way. From leadership to security.

We’re on our own…

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The Second Amendment gains more relevant meaning as each day passes in the reign of this administration. When one looks to whom they have to depend upon for their safety the word self keeps rising to the top of the list.

Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

No virgins for you!

farright on December 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Moot point. He incinerated his equipment.

Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Yoop: The jihady should have had on a HilRod fire-proof
testicle lockbox,like Bills,ahem!:)

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

lol my dad hasn’t flown for American Airlines since Dec 01

now hes going back in June to intntl flights

LOVE IT.

perfect timing!

blatantblue on December 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

I shiver to think of how the TSA might respond, if true.

A.C. McCloud on December 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Sad thing is they won’t respond appropriately. They will spin themselves silly trying to come up with a way to make cavity searches fair and balanced.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

But the question is, who will he give a shout out to, before his statement about the unprecedented man made event.

Fuquay Steve on December 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Fuquay: Good point,ala Fort Hood!:)

canopfor on December 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Terrific! After the extremist follower of the Religion of Peace is reported to authorities by his freaked-out father, we get this message from Janet Napolitano’s agency:

The Homeland Security Department encouraged travellers to be observant and aware of their surroundings and report any suspicious behaviour.

Buy Danish on December 26, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Locked & Loaded my friend…

There’s trouble brewing in paradise and it’s time to pay attention, get involved and always watch your back!

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

HogsBreath on December 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Only thing we can say is this guy was a failed engineer and a failed chemist.

chemman on December 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

More truer words have never been spoken.

chemman on December 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

The Second Amendment gains more relevant meaning as each day passes in the reign of this administration. When one looks to whom they have to depend upon for their safety the word self keeps rising to the top of the list.
Yoop on December 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Yes, but just wait until they decide to just ignore the Constitution and the Second Amendment and confiscate our guns – after all, some of those Jihadists could get hurt. /sarc

Chip on December 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Unreal…
I’m shocked a blown plane hasn’t happened… yet.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I’m surprised we haven’t seen any downed on take off or approach via RPGs or other portable rocketry. I know there’s been security enhancement for this at some airports but there are others where businesses and residences are so close that such surveilance is impossible.

TXUS on December 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

CNN is also reporting that Mutallab was not screened in Amsterdam:

“The [federal law enforcement and airline security] sources told CNN that the suspect flew into Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam on a KLM flight from Lagos, Nigeria, and is not believed to be on any “no fly” list, although his name does appear in a U.S. database of people with suspect connections. He did not undergo secondary security screening in Amsterdam, an administration official said.”

The officials at Schipol are consistently refusing media requests for comment.

Nichevo on December 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Hard to believe he didn’t go through security again when coming from Africa. Have been been through Schiphol at least a dozen times, direct from Amsterdam and on connecting flights from inside Europe. We have always had to go through security again (metal detectors, etc.) and then secondary screening again at the gate. There is more screening at Schiphol coming back to the US than at any airport you will find here in the USA. You don’t have to take off your shoes but they do a much better job of interrogating passengers- much easier to profile people.

CNN was also talking about the lax security in Lagos and how it’s inconsistent. Anyone here a frequent flier? How “consistent” do you feel security is at US airports?

He may have been on a list somewhere but it never got to the people at the airport. Unless the Homeland Security starts to truly profile I have ZERO confidence in US airport security and that includes all inbound flights from abroad.

CTSherman on December 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

rocketman on December 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

While I agree he was a p**s poor engineer and even worse chemist many exothermic reactions would mimic a fuse being lit. Everything I have read was that he injected a liquid into a powder to try an initiate the reaction. Thank God he was a failed chemist otherwise this would have been successful since he got the reaction started.

chemman on December 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

“The latest incident could in some respects be described as a success in that it shows that would-be terrorists are now having to resort to trying to get very small devices on board planes. Thanks to increased security, the sort of devices are now not big enough to actually bring down a plane. The terrorists have had to resort to more and more inadequate devices and they are a very long way from actually bringing down an aircraft.”

Something about never under estimating the enemy comes to mind here.

aikidoka on December 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM

http://www.breitbart.tv/flight-293-hero-identified-as-dutch-video-director/

CNN: Passenger Jasper Schuringa told CNN that with the aid of the cabin crew, he helped subdue and isolate Abdulmutallab.

“My hands are pretty burned. I am fine,” he said. “I am shaken up. I am happy to be here.”

Editor’s note: A more detail account of Jasper Schuringa’s actions can be found in the related section below.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

And that again prompts the question: how the hell did this guy get through security in Amsterdam?

Schiphol Airport actually has one of the tightest security for US bound flights. Unless they subject passengers to taking off the pants and/or cavity search, you simply cannot prevent everything.

Call me chicken or not loyal enough, I have been avoiding US Airlines since 9/11 when I fly internationally.

bayview on December 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM

TXUS on December 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I’ve wondered that myself. It seems it would be easier than what this buffoon did.

I have a feeling there are many in place and ready to go. It’s simply a matter of co-ordination to cause a one time, simultaneous MAJOR event nationwide.

katy on December 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Chip on December 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM

That might be successful in large urban areas but in the rural area I live in they would have to bring in outsiders. The local police and sheriff’s wouldn’t work since they would be trying to disarm their families, relatives and friends. Outsiders trying it would pay a big price.

chemman on December 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I think Guardian has it right. On connecting flights you don’t go through security again unless you leave the airport. I haven’t been on an International flight after 9/11, so I don’t know if the rules are different for those. Anyone else?

conservative pilgrim on December 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

That’s just not true, or at least it wasn’t in my case this past summer. I left Budapest and then flew to Amsterdam (Schiphol) to pick up my flight back to U.S. which also landed in Detroit.

I had to go thru security after deplaning my flight from Budapest before getting on the plane at Schiphol twice. At the normal security check and then again at the boarding gate. The only reason I remember is because I was running late and had to run thru the airport in Amsterdam carrying my shoes because I didn’t have time to put them pack on.

Knucklehead on December 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Homeland Security is calling this an incendiary device. It was meant to be an explosive device but it just didn’t work. I don’t trust our government’s reporting to the American people.

d1carter on December 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Soetoro’s Justice Department just doesn’t care. Plain as that.

Ricohoc on December 26, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Knucklehead on December 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Did that include X-rays (body scans) at either of the two checks?

chemman on December 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Waterboard him. Now. Give him a Christmas dunk. Then act immediately on the information provided. Send in the Predators. Kill his leaders and advisors. Then send him to GITMO with a lifetime, transferable, reservation.

16MPG on December 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Last month I went through a body scan after putting my stuff through the x-ray machine.

Screening at Schiphol is tighter than ANY screening people will get here in the US.

CTSherman on December 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM

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