Copper thief gets business end of 69,000 volts

posted at 12:15 pm on December 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, I had lunch with a friend of mine who lives in my neighborhood, and he started off the conversation by saying, “The reason you didn’t have power overnight — ”

“I did have power,” I replied.

“No, you didn’t,” he insisted.  “Power was out at my house.”

“It wasn’t at mine.  We’re on a different grid,” and I explained that it bisects at a street between our houses.  And that’s a good thing, too, because I wouldn’t have been able to get any work accomplished if we shared the grid that went down in the wee hours of yesterday morning, thanks to a copper thief that didn’t realize that disconnecting a live, high-power line that connects 7,100 homes might be a wee bit dangerous, especially with snow all over the ground:

An attempted copper theft at an Eagan substation early Wednesday knocked out power for thousands of residents and sent a would-be thief to Regions Hospital.

Eagan police said the 33-year-old suspect from St. Paul suffered severe burns but was in stable condition Wednesday and is expected to survive.

Two other St. Paul residents found near the substation, a 28-year-old woman and a 31-year-old man, were arrested on suspicion of felony criminal damage to property. They were booked at the Eagan Police Department and released.

Joe Miller, a spokesman for Dakota Electric, said the injured suspect scaled a chain-link fence, cut through the barbed wire at the top and then climbed on top of a transformer, where he was injured when he came into contact with a 69,000-volt transmission line.

Witnesses reported seeing a flash of light and hearing a boom at the substation before the power went out at about 12:35 a.m. About 7,100 Dakota Electric customers in western and southwestern Eagan were without power until 3 a.m.

This is a bigger problem than people might imagine.  I used to work in the security industry, focusing mainly on retail, and during the last recession, we had a sharp increase in copper theft from empty buildings.  Retailers and landlords would have to maintain full security systems and monitoring of empty spaces to keep people from breaking into the walls and stripping the copper out, which would then cost a fortune to rewire when the space was needed later.

However, those thieves usually at least attempted to kill the power at the breaker before laying their hands on the copper, and those lines carried at worst 440 volts.  I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of one stupid enough to start dismantling a high-voltage feed to steal the copper.  The fact that he’s alive counts as some sort of Christmas miracle (for him, anyway), and maybe will provide some impetus to go straight.  Either that, or perhaps to learn a little more about electricity before trying this again.

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His parents: “You’re grounded.”
LibTired on December 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Hold the phone calls folks, we have our winner!!

drunyan8315 on December 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM

What this story also reminded me of was this (at roughly the 3:10 mark).

jon1979 on December 24, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Can’t be a Darwin winner…he survived (someone may have already pointed this out). Although, maybe if the 69,000 neutered him he could be a technical winner since he could would thus be removed from the gene-pool anyway.

Justrand on December 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM

After reading you’all
I got nuthin

macncheez on December 24, 2009 at 2:04 PM

I heard that his favorite drink is Amp and he drives a Volt.

scorpio9 on December 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM

It’s amazing the trouble this guy went through to follow the path of least resistance.

the Coondawg on December 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I assume the bright flash was the alchohol igniting.

Nah, that was the big blue spark… AKA far closer to the the wrath of God than any sane person wants to get.

jasetaro on December 24, 2009 at 2:08 PM

I wonder why they didn’t name the suspects…in CA it’s a very third world crime MO.

PattyJ on December 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Francisco D’Antonia could not be reached for comment.

fossten on December 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Oops that should be D’Anconia.

fossten on December 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM

wee hours of yesterday morning,

Bevis an Buthead laughter … “he said ‘wee’”.

BowHuntingTexas on December 24, 2009 at 2:21 PM

I was talking to my wife about this problem of copper thief last night and related this story. A few years ago a thief tried to steal copper from a high voltage, 115 KV I believe, transformer at one of our overseas projects not realizing we had energized it. He became a “grounding rod” and sort of exploded from the moisture in his body almost instantly turning into steam. Having worked with high voltage for many years I have a healthy respect for it and what it can do if you don’t.

People don’t realize that with very high voltage you do not have to touch it to get a result. The maximum gap between you and the source for it to jump out and bite you depends on the voltage and how good a ground you are.

And I guess we are going to have to pay for his enormous medical bills. I can well imagine that with the pain he is going through with the burns, he wishes he had died.

amr on December 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM

I’ve never seen copper transmission lines and I doubt they exist. The cost alone is prohibitive when compared with aluminum and bare conductors run through free air have an incredible ampacity no matter they’re made of. I don’t doubt the guy got the sh!t knocked out of him butI don’t think it was from copper.Regardless, it’s a tough way to learn ohms law.

repvoter on December 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

After conducting a wire tap he was jolted to discover that the rumour of many sparkling joules was true.

YiZhangZhe on December 24, 2009 at 2:39 PM

He is a liberal democrat, for sure.

It’s said “Date democrats and marry republicans”.

Since I was 16 years old, I’ve always deliberately hated liberal democrats. So how could I date them.

Actually I recall at age 8 having an exchange, discussion, with a liberal family member; at that moment I knew I detested liberals.

father on December 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM

The common term is a flash-bang. Alternating current tends to flow over the surface, seeking ground. I expect the worst of his damage will be to his feet.

Arc-welded on stupid.

DanaA on December 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM

We have copper theft issues here in south Alabama. My hubby is allowed to save scrap copper from his job and we collect it through the year then take it to the recycler for Christmas money. You are required to provide ID sign a log book and get your photo taken when you sell copper. The last time I went, I was wearing the same shirt as I had on when I got my drivers license photo… the guy at the scrap yard thought it was kind of funny and asked if that was my only shirt.

kringeesmom on December 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I’m surprised the guy lived. I’ve heard of deaths in high-voltage power areas for this very reason. My husband works in security and also has nabbed would-be copper thieves. It’s a problem for farmers who use irrigation, too. I don’t know what can be done about it, but copper theft has gone way beyond nuisance to deadly nuisance.

evergreen on December 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM

The crook can sue and win. They probably didn’t have safety warning on the pole.

seven on December 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I’ve never seen copper transmission lines and I doubt they exist. The cost alone is prohibitive when compared with aluminum and bare conductors run through free air have an incredible ampacity no matter they’re made of. I don’t doubt the guy got the sh!t knocked out of him butI don’t think it was from copper.Regardless, it’s a tough way to learn ohms law.

repvoter on December 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

From the story, sounds like he was in a substation dueling with Transformers.

unclesmrgol on December 24, 2009 at 3:55 PM

We may one day hear of the great and wonderful things this thief is doing to better the world and the people in it.

What ever reason would God have to spare the life of a moronic, idiotic empty-headed doofus like this for doing the totally beyond-boneheadedly stupid thing he did?

pilamaye on December 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I wonder if he shouted “it’s alive!!…it’s alive!!” before he shut off.

I worked in a shop some years ago when a co-worker, in a hurry to start the 220 shop heaters, started them with a thermostat unfortunately located above the toilet while he was urinating. The voltage leak forced him to complete his leaking whilst screaming bloody murder-much to our amusement. (no perm. harm done)

trl on December 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I’ve never seen copper transmission lines and I doubt they exist. The cost alone is prohibitive when compared with aluminum and bare conductors run through free air have an incredible ampacity no matter they’re made of. I don’t doubt the guy got the sh!t knocked out of him butI don’t think it was from copper.Regardless, it’s a tough way to learn ohms law.

repvoter on December 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Buried transmission lines have to be copper or better, to keep from overheating.

Slowburn on December 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM

I guess that is a swing and a miss in baseball metaphors. I would have enjoyed the story more if it had a crispy happy ending.

di butler on December 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

OK- I re-fuse to write a pun on this receptacle of stupidity. Doing so would only be an ohmage to him. There’s an obvious circuit of this type of humor in comments. I personally, therefore, believe we should switch to something else.

Amendment X on December 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

The crook can sue and win. They probably didn’t have safety warning on the pole.

seven on December 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM

And there was no recorded playing of his Miranda rights automatically activated when he was cutting through the barbed wire?

I hope that, if he sues, the prosecution demands a re-enactment (hopefully aided by his shyster lawyer) so that Natural Selection can take its course.

Talk about being caught red-handed!!!

landlines on December 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Another Obama volter!

chickasaw42 on December 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Check for drugs – I’ll bet he was wired!

psrch on December 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

I’ve never seen copper transmission lines and I doubt they exist. The cost alone is prohibitive when compared with aluminum and bare conductors run through free air have an incredible ampacity no matter they’re made of. I don’t doubt the guy got the sh!t knocked out of him butI don’t think it was from copper.Regardless, it’s a tough way to learn ohms law.

repvoter on December 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM

You know, now that I think about it, you’re right. I got caught up in the story, Transmission line is nickel/chromium or nichrome. At those heights and weights, the wire better be strong. Nichrome has a much higher tensile strength than even hard-drawn copper. And a hell of a lot cheaper.

Lanceman on December 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Lanceman on December 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

We don’t really think that this stool knew what type of conductor was under the sheathing do we?

thomasaur on December 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Somebody comes into my house looking to steal stuff, and I’ll donate them the copper that jackets my .40 cal hollow-point slugs.

mr.blacksheep on December 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM

+1 about the copper jacketed bullets, but this news article is pointless without photos of this clowns burn marks to illustrate to others why you don’t do this.

tx2654 on December 24, 2009 at 5:40 PM

…And is expected to survive.

Unfortunate.

Claypigeon on December 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Whoopsie.

uncivilized on December 24, 2009 at 6:03 PM

His parents: “You’re grounded.”
LibTired on December 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM

D’Oh!
What a load!

DSchoen on December 24, 2009 at 6:26 PM

I’m a lineman for the Railroad and a few years ago we had a guy climb a 45′ pole to steal the copper wire off the top which was 550v and marked “High Voltage”. We found him dead draped over the cross arm. Guess what his family did? They sued the Railroad and WON! We all pay for this.

Pole-Cat on December 24, 2009 at 6:27 PM

many years before I was born..my dad had a close encounter of the electrical kind at Gitmo..

he was a seabee working on one of the substations there..and forgot to look before he swung that hammer.

it arced from the hammer, down his arm, to his tool belt suspenders, tool belt, down his leg and out the tip of his steel toed boot.

for years after that he’d run insulated copper wire down the inside of his ALICE suspenders..he claimed that it would keep anything like that from getting near his heart.

of course, he also was very careful where he swung his hammer from then on!

unfortunately he passed on dec.1st or I’d have many more details about it, like the exact date.

warhorse_03826 on December 24, 2009 at 6:33 PM

grid that went down in the wee hours

might be a wee bit dangerous

Sounds like somebody’s wee wee’d up?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 24, 2009 at 6:34 PM

“Hey, if you touch something wrong, it says 69,000 volts!”

“Man, static shock is, like, 25,000 volts. How bad could it be?”

eeyore on December 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM

“You’ll never take me alive, copper!”
ya2daup on December 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Guess Ohms law won again!

DSchoen on December 24, 2009 at 6:56 PM

It ain’t the volts….it’s the amps.

Ever scoot across the carpet and get zapped by a door knob? The voltage in that static zap is around 80,000 volts. But there’s virtually no current. Good thing…none of us would survive a winter.

BobMbx on December 24, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Almost as funny as the Nigerians who flock to burst gas pipelines with buckets and lit cigarettes.

Sharke on December 24, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Now let me see if I got the facts straight here…
Cleaning woman Clara Clifford discovered your clean copper clappers kept in a closet were copped by Claude Cooper the kleptomaniac from Cleveland, now is that about it?

Coronagold on December 24, 2009 at 7:43 PM

What ever reason would God have to spare the life of a moronic, idiotic empty-headed doofus like this for doing the totally beyond-boneheadedly stupid thing he did?

pilamaye on December 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Sense of humor? I Dunno.

I’ll bet that lit him up like a Christmas tree.

BillH on December 24, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Guess Ohms law won again!

DSchoen on December 24, 2009 at 6:56 PM

“I fought the law, and the law won…”

BillH on December 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Was he (they) Mexican? As a previous poster pointed out, in LA this is a very “Third World” (i.e., Mexican) crime. If so, I hope he is ceremoniously deported back to Mexico immediately, to recover in *their* medical system.

(I said something to a colleague recently about stealing copper and was told that the price of metal has plunged so much that it’s not worth stealing any more. Maybe the hero of this story didn’t know *that*, either.)

NahnCee on December 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Aw Give the guy a breaker.

bluesdoc70 on December 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM

“Alex, I’ll take ‘What is a dumb ass’ for $300.”

dentalque on December 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

We don’t really think that this stool knew what type of conductor was under the sheathing do we?

thomasaur on December 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

There is no sheathing at that voltage. The dielectric breakdown would turn it to powder in a relatively short time. And believe it or not, 69,000 volts is only medium voltage

Lanceman on December 24, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Professionals (electrician is the 5th most dangerous occupation) have to get close to the equipment, working near live circuits can expose them to an arc blast, even if the part they are working on is de-energized. I sell the protective gear and know that it will save someone from serious injury or death.

DanaA on December 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Reminds me of when I was growing up in Appalachia, and they tried to run cable TV out of town into the farming community I lived in. Every time they extended the line, they’d come back and find a bunch stolen.

Finally gave up, then the satellite option came up a few years later and many of the neighbors had those huge early dishes in their yards.

Copper theft has been an issue for a loooong time.

cs89 on December 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM

You know, now that I think about it, you’re right. I got caught up in the story, Transmission line is nickel/chromium or nichrome. At those heights and weights, the wire better be strong. Nichrome has a much higher tensile strength than even hard-drawn copper. And a hell of a lot cheaper.

Lanceman on December 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Nichrome is toaster wire: you’d have enormous line loss if you attempted to use it for power transmission. It would make a fine VLF/LF/HF antenna, though, just like copperweld (copper coated steel) does. The secret to these materials’ success in radio transmission is that they are not attempting to carry power to a destination: they are radiating it into the ether.

Power transmission lines have to carry all of the current (or as much as they possibly can) from source to destination with minimal loss. Real-world, everyday power transmission lines pretty much have to be copper or aluminum: anything else would either melt or waste so much power you’d have to build a lot more generating plants.

landlines on December 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM

This has happened twice within the last year, here in SC. One ended in death, the other ended in the guy’s clothes being blown off him by the blast, and him wandering dazed around the area of the substation ’til he was picked up.

Geniuses, I tell ya…

HowardRoarke on December 25, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Metal theft is very common here in Oregon. We have a tremendous number of tweakers (Meth-heads) and they are soooo incredibly stupid.

The last one we had was when a man called 911 because his O2 concentrator stopped in the middle of the night. (He lived in a rural area) When the medics got there they heard moaning coming from across the road. When they investigated they found this tweaker barely alive. I think he lost an arm and a leg. I’m sure we are supporting him now.

(This is Oregon. Being stupid is enough to get on the gravy train. Being stupid and crippled is the E-ticket.)

schmuck281 on December 25, 2009 at 2:37 AM

Thief: “I don’t know, it says 69,000 volts. I probably shouldn’t take this stuff.”

Accomplice: “Go ahead, I don’t see any cops around here.”

Afterwards…

Accomplice: “You know, we still didn’t get all the copper from the site.”

Thief: “You get it. Ohm not touching it with a 10 foot pole.”

DrAllecon on December 25, 2009 at 2:59 AM

Actually I recall at age 8 having an exchange, discussion, with a liberal family member; at that moment I knew I detested liberals.

father on December 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM

You KNOW my brother in Law boB? Amazing, then you know he too is sorta sparky…

magicky on December 25, 2009 at 3:04 AM

Young man… you better change your ways…I don’t want to wake up some day and read about you in the O-IT-BIT-U-airy COLUMB!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RedLizard64 on December 25, 2009 at 3:51 AM

This story need pictures!

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1330772.shtml

Recently out of prison for…drug charges. Color me shocked.

MNHawk on December 25, 2009 at 5:45 AM

kringeesmom on December 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM

How much do you get for it?

Dollayo on December 25, 2009 at 7:07 AM

***
I remember seeing a video of a bear that went up a power pole. A lot of people were looking on and wondering how to get the bruin down.
***
The bear climbed higher and got into the 14KV. wires. A flash was seen, and the bear–still smoking–dropped down the pole and hit the ground. I thought the oso was dead–but he got up and took off–leaving a smoke trail!
***
Tough bear–but don’t try this at home! Like Joan d’ Arc–he was smoking more and enjoying it less.
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on December 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM

My Dad used to work for Detroit Edison as a sub-station operator. He said that the Detroit stations (as oppossed to the subberbs) were the most dangerous because of all the copper theft. And sometimes it was the employees that did the stealing. He said that you could tell by the ways they tried to cover their tracks.

mechkiller_k on December 25, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Non-precious metal theft is more of a problem than most realize.
Have heard tales from folks from the Rust Belt about how as soon as the mills shut down and people started bailing out, you would see houses stripped of their aluminum siding up to as high as you could reach from the top of a pickup. A bit latter the interiors would get stripped of the wiring and plumbing.
A plant about 20 miles over the border from me into PA was stripped down over a few nights. Luckily a local called the police because there was truck traffic on the road back and they caught the folks on the pickup night. IIRC it was something like 6 tons of copperwire and aluminum fixtures.
We had people steal aluminum siding we had taken off of a church we were renovating, the church had planned on using the money from it to host a barbeque for locals when they opened the new hall. It still happened, mainly because my boss and a couple contractors ponied up for it.
Work in with construction folks for a while and you hear all kinds of stories about people stealing non-precious metals, sometimes to the benefit of the construction company.

Nathan_OH on December 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Bah Humbug !!!. Too bad he didn’t take the eternal celestial dirt nap and eliminate another person from the idiot gene pool.

hamradio on December 25, 2009 at 8:01 PM

More stories from Oregon: Last summer, thieves were sawing up new aluminum bleachers from the local drag strip, and were caught because somebody “noticed” something at the recycling center.

Thieves were also stealing irrigation pipe. I have a farmer friend who had to replace $25,000 of copper wiring that was stolen from his irrigation pumps. It was early summer and he nearly lost his corn crop.

Meth heads are usually the culprits. The drug makes them so crazy that logic, common sense or safety no longer prevails.

Pazman on December 25, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Copper thieves are a serious and destructive problem around where I live. I hope the idiot has learned his lesson, but I confess I have no sympathy for him.

WannabeAnglican on December 25, 2009 at 10:14 PM

My old physics professor once said when you multiply a German by a Frenchman you get an Italian and you have to be careful around Italians.

AaronGuzman on December 26, 2009 at 3:59 AM

Such thefts in Hawaii have left thousands of homes, business, large segments of streets/highways, and parking lots without electricity. Thus when the lights go out the crime rate (robbery, rape, etc.), insurance rates (from accidents), food rots, and a multitude of other problems.

So this guy did not get fried in perpetrating his crime I hope he gets fried by the courts. But, this is liberal America and a power outage to them is tantamount to a lousy run public utility that just couldn’t properly maintain the grid.

What will be the result is that copper mines and processors will be regulated like those associated with Gold, and your power will cost thousand per Kilowatt hour as copper scarcity becomes a reality.

MSGTAS on December 26, 2009 at 10:26 AM

NahnCee on December 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Here is the east, one euphemism is to call such a crime a “southwest crime.”

In our town, burglars broke in one side of the building of a local restaurant, and, rather than break into the safe there, they carried the several hundred pound, and very bulky safe out through the window on the other side of the building, and then down an alley, where they loaded it into a van.

They conducted about 40 or more burglaries or attempts, before they finally switched to an armed stick-up in a bank in a neighboring town, and got caught — even though they crossed the state line into PA after fleeing the bank.

Trochilus on December 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Can’t society use capital punishment enrollee’s to do this type of work?

TBenton on December 26, 2009 at 9:21 PM

He conducted himself accordingly.

johnnyU on December 27, 2009 at 11:58 AM

AT LEAST HE KICKED HIS CRACK ADDICTION…AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AMERICAN VETERAN on December 27, 2009 at 4:29 PM

ANOTHER OSAMA VOTER DOING THE JOBS AMERICANS WON’T DO…

AMERICAN VETERAN on December 27, 2009 at 4:30 PM

It’s a shame that the would be thief’s case wasn’t terminal.
Positively a shame.

VelvetElvis on December 28, 2009 at 8:07 AM

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