Time for the “atheists dump on Christmas” post

posted at 9:41 pm on December 23, 2009 by Allahpundit

You know our motto: Wherever there is mirth or joy or warm seasonal tidings, we’ll be there to pee on it.

Dude, really?

“I was turning around in the lobby, and I noticed the tree,” Mr. Sutley said. “And then, I noticed the angel.”

Mr. Sutley, an atheist, said he then went to the office of the county Board of Supervisors. “And there was a star,” he said.

Technically, neither stars nor angels belong to any particular religion. But to the mind of Mr. Sutley, 65, a veteran who has fought to keep religion out of public meetings and buildings, the symbolism was clear.

“For most people, a star atop a tree at this time of season represents the star of Bethlehem, which is a cult symbol, the cult being Christianity,” he said, adding that the government should be neutral on religion.

Two clips here, one of atheists doing what atheists do and the other of Laura Ingraham toying with some buffoon. Exit question: Did I not get the memo from Atheist HQ about why I should remotely give a wet shinola about the winter solstice? If you want to dump on Christmas, dump on it. Don’t offer nonsense pagan garbage holidays as a substitute. What’s next? Sunday school for nonbelievers? Oh … right.

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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Now, more than ever.

Merry Christmas to all and may God bless you as well.

dthorny on December 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Well, at least its not the first time religious extremists have fought to ban Christmas in America.

“For preventing disorders, arising in several places within this jurisdiction by reason of some still observing such festivals as were superstitiously kept in other communities, to the great dishonor of God and offense of others: it is therefore ordered by this court and the authority thereof that whosoever shall be found observing any such day as Christmas or the like, either by forbearing of labor, feasting, or any other way, upon any such account as aforesaid, every such person so offending shall pay for every such offence five shilling as a fine to the county.”

From the records of the General Court,
Massachusetts Bay Colony
May 11, 1659

And futhermore…

“The generality of Christmas-keepers observe that festival after such a manner as is highly dishonourable to the name of Christ. How few are there comparatively that spend those holidays (as they are called) after an holy manner. But they are consumed in Compotations, in Interludes, in playing at Cards, in Revellings, in excess of Wine, in mad Mirth …”

- Reverend Increase Mather, 1687

NeverLiberal on December 24, 2009 at 9:20 AM

See here the results of the bad acid served up at Woodstock! Imagine the look on her face at the Golden Gates when Peter tells her, “God told me to tell you He doesn’t believe in you. Now go away.”

Roy Rogers on December 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Whenever there’s a debate on TV between an atheist and a beiever, I can always tell who’s who before their positions are announced just by looking at them.

Do I have a gift?

Akzed on December 24, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Here’s my answer to the atheists: Enjoy the best church choir in America! Oh, and He [Jesus] shall reign forever and ever!

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Reading through the thread, Am I the only one who thinks this levistrauss person is a taco short of a deluxe dinner?

Renae on December 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Words, just words.

OldEnglish on December 24, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Words, just words.

OldEnglish on December 24, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Hi OldEnglish! Merry Christmas! As for your comment, we shall see, won’t we. We shall see.

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Allah,

I usually just roll my eyes at your atheist posts. But I must say I’m really glad to see that even you realize the rabid atheists like the goobers you’ve highlighted today aren’t really doing their causes any good. So, they don’t believe in God. Fine. I don’t really care. But do they have to be a jerk and spoil the holiday for the rest of us? Seriously.

Kudos to you, AP.

mrflibbleisvryx on December 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Here’s my answer to the atheists: Enjoy the best church choir in America! Oh, and He [Jesus] shall reign forever and ever!

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM

They are indeed a wonderful choir; however, “Hallelujah” should not be messed with.

NoFanofLibs on December 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Reason’s Greetings? Wasn’t Reason the “god” proclaimed by the French revolutionaries?

God bless those zany atheists.

rihar on December 23, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Sounds like the start of a parody of God Bless Ye Merry Gentlemen.

For most people, a star atop a tree at this time of season represents the star of Bethlehem, which is a cult symbol, the cult being Christianity

From the perspective of first-century Judaism, Christianity would have been a cult.

Bigfoot on December 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM

All ribbing aside, Merry Christmas to you, and all at HotAir.

OldEnglish on December 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

All ribbing aside, Merry Christmas to you, and all at HotAir.

OldEnglish on December 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Amen and thanks!

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Do Christians believe in Santa Claus?

Take, for a moment, the proposition that Santa Claus doesn’t exist (this is just an exercise in logic, Virginia). Would that make Christmas any less of a festival worth celebrating, just because its central character is nonexistent? Is “peace on earth, goodwill among goodwill to men” any less worthy an idea? Was Scrooge right after all, to say “humbug” and be a stick-in-the-mud who despises Christmas and all that goes with it? I don’t think so.

That is how many of us atheists feel about Christianity. We don’t hate it. We like a lot of the good stuff that is in it. We are cognizant of its influence on our culture. We just don’t believe in its central character any more than you believe in Santa Claus. Oddly enough, I think that you can have a truer appreciation of the Christian ethic by removing the “believe all this stuff literally or go to Hell” part from it – it reminds us of another religion we don’t particularly care for. I would maintain that someone who literally believes in Santa Clause has a poorer understanding of the Christmas spirit too – he just want to be “nice” so he gets his toys.

TrueNorth on December 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM

TrueNorth on December 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Well, Santa may not be real, but Frosty the Snowman sure is! :)

OldEnglish on December 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM

I don’t really give a rats behind if someone’s athiest. IF you have no faith, or belief….fine. But why do you feel this need to turn the rest of the world away from their faith, and belief? What’s it to you? I won’t go out of my way to try and convert you, or bother you, so why can’t you just accept that for 2 thousand years, there has been christianity, and even longer for judaism. Even islam has been around for eons.

Now…go crawl back to your rocks, and get over it. Don’t believe. We don’t care. But leave the rest of us the hell alone.

I swear the 2nd coming is near, with all these minions running around trying to sway people from their faith in God.

capejasmine on December 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM

And there were in the same country shepherds watching, and keeping the night watches over their flock.

And behold an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the brightness of God shone round about them; and they feared with a great fear.

And the angel said to them: Fear not; for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, that shall be to all the people:

For, this day, is born to you a Saviour, who is Christ the Lord, in the city of David.

And this shall be a sign unto you. You shall find the infant wrapped in swaddling clothes, and laid in a manger.

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly army, praising God, and saying:

Glory to God in the highest; and on earth peace to men of good will.

Gospel of Saint Luke Chapter 2 Verses 8-14

Merry Christmas Everyone!

panzerkardinal on December 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM

I’m waiting for these “brave and principled” atheists to dump on Ramadan.

Merry Christmas to all.

scullymj on December 24, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Reading through the thread, Am I the only one who thinks this levistrauss person is a taco short of a deluxe dinner?

Renae on December 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM

No, you’re not.

Here is the main difference between an atheist and a christian: joy. Someone else posted earlier the observation that it seems atheists are miserable, joyless people (paraphrasing here). That has been my experience with these folks, too. My brother is sort of like that. He always has a dark cloud hovering over him. Nothing is ever right. Unhappy person. Maybe this will help.

Proud Texan on December 24, 2009 at 1:04 PM

The purpose of the athiest billboards is clearly not to celebrate anything they’re interested in, but more to mock people who celebrate Christmas. Misery so desperately wants company.

Gulfcoastconservative on December 24, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Why does the “Free Thinker” appear as though she doesn’t have a single thought in her mind?

AaronGuzman on December 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM

The reason there’s so many atheists at HA is because they’re under 30 and have Vulcan mind-melded with the gubmint-run educational system. And their parents are aholes…

Coronagold on December 23, 2009 at 10:42 PM

My collie says:

*whistles* *applause* Let’s hear it for POGs like CC!

Collie, you KNOW why they call themselves “brights”, don’t you?

My collie says:

Because they’re jealous of all the colorful, shiny Christmas lights?

No. Because if they called themselves “flaming”, it would all be JUST TOO EASY.

CyberCipher on December 24, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Do I have a gift?

Akzed on December 24, 2009 at 9:45 AM

You certainly do.

But do they have to be a jerk and spoil the holiday for the rest of us? Seriously.

Kudos to you, AP.

mrflibbleisvryx on December 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM

How can an atheist you don’t know “spoil” such an important day for you?

The Race Card on December 24, 2009 at 3:04 PM

“The shortest & darkest day of the year.” How apropos is that?

Ha ha ha

kg598301 on December 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM

It’s gratifying to know that there’s at least as much buffoonery in atheism as there can be in theism, and I would argue that there is much more of it in atheism. This woman is exhibit A: someone of whom all atheists can be proud.

Merry Christmas to all at HotAir, bloggers and commenters alike!

Pilgrimsarbour on December 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I will respect Christmas-trashing atheists when they trash Islam during Ramadan – won’t go there, will they?

Anyway, joyful Christmas blessings on all! God loves you and offers you eternal life (starting now!) through Jesus Christ.

MochaLite on December 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

You’ll all be glad to know that while we were debating atheism last evening, the lefties responded to their frustration at not getting the stars taken down by destroying 60 government cars in Santa Rosa.

Yup, nothing negative about atheists at all…

warbaby on December 24, 2009 at 9:38 PM

If the entire globe only offered one of two choices, Atheism or Islam, which would be the better choice?

Speakup on December 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I’d be a lot more tolerant of atheists criticizing Christianity if they’d criticize Islam once in a while, too.

JimC on December 25, 2009 at 3:00 AM

Merry Christmas.

jgdp on December 25, 2009 at 3:01 AM

AN ATHEIST’S DEFENCE OF CHRISTMAS

December 23, 2009 by SECN
By Markham Hislop, Editor

By Markham Hislop, Editor

Everybody take a deep breath. Now repeat after me: Christmas is alive and well. Worshipping Jesus Christ is still allowed in Canada. Judeo-Christian traditions have not been swamped by political correctness. And even we atheists are likely to wish you a Merry Christmas over the next few days.

A frequent theme in conversations this Christmas season is that Christmas celebrations are being neutered in the interests of socially acceptability. Justin Bills remarked on this phenomena in his recent Faith and Life column. Some of the complaints I hear include school children not being allowed to have Christmas parties or plays anymore, Nativity scenes are just about outlawed and, of course, for God’s sake don’t wish anyone a Merry Christmas.

Speakup on December 25, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Merry Christmas everybody.

Speakup on December 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Take the atheist crap elsewhere.

5u93rm4n on December 25, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Nearly 48 hours later and AP doesn’t even come close to the 1000+ comment flame war he was shooting for. You’re losing your touch and your credibility.

Merry Christmas.

slug on December 25, 2009 at 8:01 PM

I think that you can have a truer appreciation of the Christian ethic by removing the “believe all this stuff literally or go to Hell” part from it – it reminds us of another religion we don’t particularly care for.

Lol. Sorry dude, that’s part of the deal.

Merry Christmas!

kg598301 on December 26, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Like, the BIGGEST part…

kg598301 on December 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Lol. Sorry dude, that’s part of the deal.

Not so much.

Morals does not require personal or organized quirks to learn not that community morals network is a bad thing, the difference between right and wrong isn’t exclusive to Religion, for most people at least.

Speakup on December 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM

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