Newest broken promise: Gitmo to close no sooner than early 2011
posted at 8:21 pm on December 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
Fine by me. And, chances are, by you too.
Rebuffed this month by skeptical lawmakers when it sought finances to buy a prison in rural Illinois, the Obama administration is struggling to come up with the money to replace the Guantánamo Bay prison.
As a result, officials now believe that they are unlikely to close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and transfer its population of terrorism suspects until 2011 at the earliest — a far slower timeline for achieving one of President Obama’s signature national security policies than they had previously hinted…
But in interviews this week, officials estimated that it could take 8 to 10 months to install new fencing, towers, cameras and other security upgrades before any transfers take place. Such construction cannot begin until the federal government buys the prison from the State of Illinois…
Moreover, the administration now says that the current focus for Thomson financing is the appropriations legislation for the 2011 fiscal year. Congress will not take that measure up until late 2010.
What are the odds that Reid and Pelosi, staring at a GOP wipeout in November, are going to push funding for a signature national security issue opposed by 64 percent of the public mere months before the election? They’d have to be as stupid as, say, The One was when he promised to close Gitmo by January despite not knowing (a) how soon the case against each detainee could be prepared, (b) how willing other countries would be to take prisoners, and (c) whether any alternate facilities were available and, if not, how hard it would be politically to get one built in mainland America. I guess his plan, as always, was to say a few words, fire off some Hopenchange charisma starbursts, and trust that everything would fall into place. The result: Copenhagen, ObamaCare, and a 48 percent approval rating.
More fun from Illinois, the future home of Gitmo north:
US Federal Bureau of Prisons Director Harley Lappin told commissioners that, upon its elevation to “Super Max” status, the facility will be comparable to the federal prison in Florence, Colo., where, he said, “there’s never been an escape or an internal attack.”
But some were not convinced. “How are you sure Al Qaeda will not use Thompson in the future as a recruiting tool?” asked state Sen. Matt Murphy (R). During a break in the hearings, he added to reporters: “No one has given us a clear indication of what this will do from a security standpoint. Right now we’re being told there is minimal risk … I kind of feel the state of Illinois is being rolled.”…
Outside the proceedings, peopled continued to voice their doubts. “This is a national security issue for our country. These terrorists, they’re ruthless,” said Stacey Mathia, who made the journey to Sterling from Bay City, Mich. “They want their people out. We don’t want them on our soil.”
Exit question: Why try to deny jihadis a propaganda point by closing Gitmo when you’ve just handed them a much bigger propaganda point by ramping up in Afghanistan? As repulsive as I would have regarded a pullout, it would have at least been logically consistent with a general “let’s not piss them off” approach. Instead, to his credit, he flipped them the bird — but meanwhile he’s still scrambling to shutter the prison. Does anyone think this guy would care at all if Gitmo stayed open if his nutroots base didn’t whine about it periodically?









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Hasan comes to mind.
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Its not closing at all, if they are just moving it.But hey,after the bag of sh*t Illinois gave us,its only fair they get theire.Enjoy the jihadi threats(at least( Illinois!
theTarCzar on December 23, 2009 at 8:24 PM
O/T,on Fox News,they say,a credible threat towards FLOTUS!?
canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM
If it, at least in his eyes, makes America less safe, Obama would do it.
steveegg on December 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM
I have said from the beginning…………….Let me be clear.
mmmm mmmm mmmm
IowaWoman on December 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM
What are the odds that Reid and Pelosi, staring at a GOP wipeout in November
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Its gonna be Biblical!!!
canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM
So now he has something to motivate his base to give him a second term?
aikidoka on December 23, 2009 at 8:27 PM
In the words of that famous wordsmith Gomer Pyle:
Surprise, surprise surprise!
hillbillyjim on December 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Oh, they are that stupid!
bluemarlin on December 23, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Just in time for the midterms. GOP candidates had better have a field day with this one.
Kafir on December 23, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Re:
Instead of calling it the “newest broken promise” shouldn’t it be referred to as the “latest threat delayed”?
Blaise on December 23, 2009 at 8:36 PM
While I’m glad to see Gitmo will still be up and running until at least 2011, I’m speechless at the scores of broken promises of this Empty Suit.
Has he kept any promise he made during his two year long campaign for POTUS? There are videos out there of him extolling the virtues of the single payer/government run healthcare system, and now he’s all “meh, I’ve never truly pushed it”.
Intrepid on December 23, 2009 at 8:36 PM
What???? I’m shocked!
Exactly. Nothing like politicizing terrorists, and their crimes, for political gain.
I am soooooooo sick of democrats right now. My neck has a kink in it, that will NOT go away.
capejasmine on December 23, 2009 at 8:36 PM
This is typical of his administration. Move terrorists to Illinois, create 3,800 jobs (for the team) at a huge cost to taxpayers:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1944999,tompson-prison-worth-121709.article
Let’s say that to upgrade and sell this facility in Illinois to the government it will cost $100ml. That’s low ball. See the article below.
In Bambi speak that means that to each of those 3,800 jobs costs us over $250,000 per job? WTF? It’s Bambi Math.
We already have a state of the art facility in Gitmo, but that’s not PC. And Gitmo is run by the military.
I vote for Gitmo.
More of the usual crap, like Mark Penn’s bailout. $6MMl of our money for 3 people.
Staggering.
Cody1991 on December 23, 2009 at 8:41 PM
This will make a suitable moment for the First Anniversary of the Blame Bush administration.
Drained Brain on December 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Lying treacherous loony Liberals!!!
So many lies,and its only been less than a year,
of,HopeLess/ChangeLess!!!
canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Yeah, but I think it’s the “Norwegian jihadis” this Administration is concerned about.
And German, British, Swedish….
SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 8:46 PM
And escalating again would be, and in fact is, logically consistent with the boy who was seen hitting himself in the head.
Adult: Why are you hitting yourself in the head?
Boy: Because it is going to feel so good when I stop.
MB4 on December 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM
I’m at a loss here. If the cost of guard towers and barbed wire and cameras is a problem, then why doesn’t Barack just annex Gitmo and make it part of Illinois? Then we can rename it to some interesting Illinois name and be done with it, and not have to buy new anything.
unclesmrgol on December 23, 2009 at 8:49 PM
You have to pardon Barry, he never was a ‘details’ man. Come to think of it, he never was really a legislator or leader either.
GarandFan on December 23, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Yeah, this is his first, real job, so WTF.
Solid B+, baby!
Cody1991 on December 23, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I don’t think it should ever close.
johnsteele on December 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM
I am going to be really petty here and say he never was a real man.
bluemarlin on December 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM
You know…
A mature, intelligent, and experienced Commander in Chief might want to visit Gitmo first hand to see for himself and make a more informed opinion on the actual conditions of the facility and separate it from the image painted by the propaganda of the Left.
But we can’t have THAT, now can we?
Better to throw Billions to Chicago-land, and build a sub-par prison filled with graft, theft, and union corruption.
Seven Percent Solution on December 23, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Being president is HARD!!!
I give this promise a good solid B+.
Someone had to.
jukin on December 23, 2009 at 8:55 PM
So Thomson IL will to be Gitmofied ?
macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 8:56 PM
A number of voices on the left have characterized Gitmo as some sort of Gulag (Sullivan called it “Bush’s Gulag”) and now they are stuck with it.
If it wasn’t so important to national security – directly and indirectly – I’d laugh. Schadenfreude big time.
But I can’t.
SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 8:56 PM
He is learning less and less about more and more details and ultimately will know nothing about all of them.
MB4 on December 23, 2009 at 8:56 PM
You have a way with words, AP.
Are you even sure about the *man* part?
onlineanalyst on December 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Matthews already spilled the beans on that one. Eeeewwww….
Cody1991 on December 23, 2009 at 9:07 PM
In “Willful Blindness” McCarthy makes it pretty clear that the FBI was watching a place in NY that these jihadis would go to to practice firing weapons. If they have 1 training area, they have plenty more- in fact I have read as many as 35 places of interest.
Does anyone mention this in the main stream media? It is not just breaking out that I am worried about. Has Obama, Durbin, or Quinn mentioned this to anyone? No, they keep silent and allow the vast majority of Americans to think only Jesus loving cults with weapons exist in the US, not Mohammed loving ones.
journeyintothewhirlwind on December 23, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Just call it the Daley Hotel and this would be a lock.
GnuBreed on December 23, 2009 at 9:22 PM
onlineanalyst on December 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Back when the fraud knew it all, he painted himself into a corner by boldly stating “Gitmo will be closed within one year” of when I take office. He has no choice, really…he has to do whatever it takes to close it or look like the total arsehole that we all know him to be.
He’s winging it. Playing it by ear. He’s an OJT kinda president. In WAYYYYYYY over his head.
I can’t wait for the first (and it will come quite soon) legal brief filed because “it’s torturous to transfer my client to such frigid weather conditions”.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 23, 2009 at 9:55 PM
I think there are still some true believers around Berkeley, but their faith in the Light Worker is being sorely tested.
Here’s my own exit question: Anyone else recall Beslan? Granted, al Qaeda whackos (but I repeat myself) could take over a school and hold the children hostage if the prison stays in Guantanamo, but isn’t putting in the continental US just begging for the mother of all hostage situations?
irishspy on December 23, 2009 at 10:00 PM
I’m quibbling, but I think it’s unfair to accuse any politician — even including Republicans — of “breaking” a campaign promise when they’ve made a serious effort, but have been defeated by determined opposition. “Failing to deliver,” yes, but breaking a promise, I’m thinking not.
Art of the possible and all that.
Bleeds Blue on December 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Sure, a President has to work with Congress and deal with other matters along the way. Et cetera, et cetera.
But this was the first thing he’d said he do after being sworn in. It was a major campaign promise as well.
This isn’t exactly promising to amend the “Snail Darter Act”.
SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 10:25 PM
“Failing to deliver,” yes, but breaking a promise, I’m thinking not.
Art of the possible and all that.
Bleeds Blue on December 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Then wouldn’t it make sense to refrain from making such “promises”??? And, YES, that goes for any and all politicians. When he was a wet-behind-the-ears, totally inexperienced candidate, he made many of those promises and he’s failed to deliver on most of them, despite having a clear majority/control over both houses of Congress!
When your party has total control of D.C. and you can’t “deliver”, you’re inept, there’s just no two ways about it.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Clearly you’re unfamiliar with both the problems of being the “big tent” party (having to welcome moderates into your caucus and deal with their neuroses) the filibuster and the fact that a critical one, if not two, Senators are not real Democrats. Let the Senate move on simple up or down votes, and we’ll show you how to do things right.
And, I thought Bush was going to reform Social Security. Oh, wait, he failed. Nonetheless it wasn’t a broken promise so much as a political defeat.
Bleeds Blue on December 23, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I’m a little torn on how to feel about the fact that Obama’s Marxist agenda is getting shot down on a number of fronts, and that the left is now turning on him, making him appear in the MSM like some sort of “moderate”.
This goes back to Beck saying it would have been worse to elect McCain. McCain would be slowly taking us down the same bad road, whereas Obama’s radical policies stood to shock us in to “ENOUGH!” mode, forcing us to do a 180 and throw all of the bums out and get back to our roots. This is sort of what happened with the town halls and tea parties… but perhaps we peaked to early.
If Obamacare and cap & tax go down in flames, the left will become more furious with Obama than us, and the media will use this to paint him as the moderate he tried to paint himself as during the campaign… instead of the radical who vowed to “fundamentally transform” the country, and who doesn’t seem to have a single associate who isn’t a racist, anti-Semite, anti-American, Communist, terrorist, or population control nut.
RightWinged on December 23, 2009 at 10:38 PM
But Bush didn’t call Social Security a blight on America or a violation of our principles of a major recruiting tool for AQ or an abdication of American values, blah blah blah.
I’m sure there’s some Medicaid funds that the President could have bribed, er, offered Congress up to get the closing through.
If he really thought that Gitmo was such a scar on America.
Rhetoric meets reality with this President.
Once again.
SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Bleeds Blue on December 23, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Rushing off to blame George Bush is about what I expected.
Weak…Mighty weak.
When you can’t answer the question, or won’t admit someone else just might be right, BLAME BUSH.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 23, 2009 at 10:47 PM
For five years all we heard from the left was how horrible Gitmo was. It was a Gulag, a blight on America equivalent to the Japanese-American internment, a recruiting tool for AQ and a dishonor to our history.
All good old Obama was going to end it all.
A year later and it’s, hey, you have to recognize the limits of the powers of the President and of the difficulties of politics.
Wow.
SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 10:51 PM
A recruiting tool for AQ?
Sure, it is. Yep. Gitmo caused 9-11.
The recruiting tool for AQ is the existence of the United States and all those misguided non-Moslems all over the place.
That so many would buy into the Gitmo is a recruiting tool for AQ meme certainly indicates that this late in the game too many, far too many, haven’t a clue about AQ, and violent jihad.
Until that cluelessness is overcome, AQ will use any and all “tools” (to include a lot of bleeding heart politicians and dhimmis) to advance their cause…total submission of the non-Moslem world to Islam.
As for Gitmo, there are serious Constitutional issues at play in this announced intent to move Gitmo detainees to Illinois…Constitutional issues that will far outlive the Obama Administration. Obama was behaving stupidly when he made closing Gitmo the keynote Executive Order of his Administration.
coldwarrior on December 23, 2009 at 11:02 PM
ObaMao as Eddie Haskell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DCYp8KwDxA
The Say-Anything Guy shows his condescension, contempt, and deceit just about everywhere.
onlineanalyst on December 23, 2009 at 11:06 PM
I didn’t blame Bush. I merely suggested that being beaten, politically, is not the same as breaking a promise. Bush had promises he couldn’t deliver on, he didn’t “break” them, he just lost the battle. I’m sure he did his best, as Obama is. Sometimes it’s not in the cards, in which case, a president can be criticized for failing to deliver, but not for actively being untruthful.
Bleeds Blue on December 23, 2009 at 11:22 PM
“I guess his plan, as always, was to say a few words, fire off some Hopenchange charisma starbursts, and trust that everything would fall into place. The result: Copenhagen, ObamaCare, and a 48 percent approval rating”
Nice!
csThor on December 24, 2009 at 12:51 AM
I have no problems with Gitmo staying open. I live in the Chicago area, and we already have enough dangerous creeps to keep us busy.
jana on December 24, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Well said.
hillbillyjim on December 24, 2009 at 3:09 AM
Gotta move all those nasty actions the people are against so when it comes to the mid terms all the libbies can claim they’re not for any of it.
The pathetic thing is, so many Americans are falling for this kind of thing. Not a single supporter of health care “reform” I’ve spoken to has any idea that this “landmark” legislation doesn’t go into effect until 2014. They all believe they’re going to get their free health care right away. Not a one of them realizes the tax hikes will be the only thing to happen right away in this whole mess.
Instead of blindly walking lock step with the administration and the Reid/Pelosi junta, these people ought to be asking why, if this legislation is so important it must be passed without review by the people and/or even being read by those who “support” it, none of its “benefits” begin for so many years.
I know logic isn’t something the DNC or liberals as a whole embrace, but this blind faith is ridiculous.
This whole Gitmo thing is just another broken promise. And this ham-handed attempt to “hide” it by claiming they’ll do it in 2011 is pathetic. But even more pathetic is the teary-eyed, thrill up the leg belief in anything this president says. It’s also more than a little bit scary.
Mad Mad Monica on December 24, 2009 at 7:24 AM
If there was ever a time to see what clunkers we have in WDC’s politburo, now is it.
Bribing people with your money, to force you to do what they will… This is the bottom.
tarpon on December 24, 2009 at 8:37 AM