New housing sales fall 11% in November
posted at 1:36 pm on December 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
This news may surprise some who heard yesterday that the housing market grew 7% in November, but that was the resale market — which has a key difference in measurement. Resales get calculated when the sales close, where new housing sales get calculated when the deal is made:
Sales of new homes plunged unexpectedly last month to the lowest level since April, a sign the housing market recovery will be rocky.
The 11 percent slump from October’s pace shows that consumers are taking their time following an extension of a deadline for first-time buyers to qualify for a tax credit. The incentive was set to expire at the end of November, but Congress pushed back the date to April 30 and expanded the program to include current homeowners who relocate.
“They don’t have to act today,” said David Crowe, chief economist at the National Association of Home Builders, who called the results “pretty awful.”
New home sales data are a better indicator of future real estate than sales of previously occupied homes, but capture a smaller slice of the market. The new home figures tally sales agreements signed in November, while home resale numbers reflect contracts signed over the summer that were completed in November.
In other words, it measures two different sets of times. The resale numbers reflect decisions made anywhere from one to four months earlier by buyers, and the November closing figure reflected the increased optimism during the mid- to-late summer of 2009. That optimism has disappeared, and with it the impetus to buy any of the new inventory in the market.
That may signal an end to the influence of a key Democratic economic stimulus strategy. The tax credit for first-time homebuyers was intended to get inventory lowered, which it accomplished by essentially stealing sales from future quarters as people jumped into the market a little earlier than they may have otherwise. An $8000 tax credit would not have been enough to make a house affordable that wouldn’t have already been affordable to the buyer, at least not in large enough numbers to promote home sales that would have otherwise taken place later.
When new housing starts dropped in October, Congress assumed that the issue was not market saturation but the end of the tax credit. They extended the credit to April 2010 and widened it to existing homeowners who buy new houses. Instead of getting a rush to buy, the market turned sour anyway, demonstrating that the only real impact of the Cash for New Homes program was to move purchasing decisions up a few months, not to create sales that would not have taken place anyway.
Finally, with all of that in mind, it’s amusing to see the AP continue to use the word “unexpectedly” in its economic reporting. This was actually easily predictable.










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Hey Kiddo! How’s life? Merry Christmas.
Cindy Munford on December 23, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Partly…some businesses kept building homes like it was the 1950s.
Dark-Star on December 23, 2009 at 2:51 PM
When are we going to get experts that everything is not
unexpected.
I could stay at home and tout that everything that happens
is unexpected and not really do anything.
uber on December 23, 2009 at 2:55 PM
No such thinkg as lower…. unless you go boony’s.
Which the BF and I are thinking about. Here is what we want to build as well.
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Around 250 ~350k in reasonable northern VA. Get to the peoples republic of Alexandria and the average joint is about 500 ~ 600k.
Hahahahaha! Sounds exactly like my dinner, lamb was particularly tasty this evening. Civilian.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM
I was telling UpinAK that her, yours and ladyingrays care packages all came. The stockings where pretty funny. They guys wanted them right away. But I made them hang them up in the CP. Half of us are flying Christmas Eve. The rest are picking folks back up on Christmas Day and we’re going to have a little Christmas Party after the Christmas crew gets back. I’ll give them their stockings them.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Lamp….mmmmmm unprocessed gyro meat.
We had one our employees leave the company about three months ago to do armored vehicle repair and improvements in Afghan.
Be safe and have a good Christmas.
WashJeff on December 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Don’t complain about paying 2-3K on Property taxes when I have a 160K house and pay 3500 on it. I would rather have a larger house.
Sighs
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Stockings???
Cindy… you didn’t send them pantyhose did ya?!?!? :O:O
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 3:01 PM
On the precipice to the great leap forward.
the_nile on December 23, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Army here. You’re the first Hot Air commenter I’ve met that’s actually here. Some have said they had been here at one time but never still here. Let me know some time you’re free and I’ll buy you a Green Beans or a Tim Horton’s.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Perhaps the dustoff? I may have flown with you before. I will be out on the road on Christmas morning a passed up the dustoff due to return flight issues.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Do not see many log homes in IL, they do exists though. A much better and appropriate fit for the AK environment. Make sure the big window(s) face some mountains…mine face a corn\soybean field.
WashJeff on December 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM
No, but you can “run” in them. (I kill me)
More like “Christmas Sockings” and they’re great.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM
What? That was wrong? I looked for little helicopters to put on them, no luck.
Cindy Munford on December 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Hope you distriubted the loose stuff in the boxes into the stockings that upinak sent. And I hope there are enough movies.
Cindy Munford on December 23, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Everyone loves “Clean Stockings”. ;)
Actually.. I was going to get the “Boys” a blow up doll and make her wear a Mrs Santa garb (MEOW) but then I thought Hawk would have to explain to the major and I couldn’t find the right Hillary doll!
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Hehe.. Hawk I think likes Christmas more then he lets on. Maybe the “Firelight” DVD was a winner.
Hawk.. how was that little Christmas Tree working out?
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Thanks! I will be taking some Cubano Habanos out to a bunch of Marines and Army medics in the frontier for Christmas. It will be a lot of fun!
I hear you, but I also pay property tax on all my vehicles, my jacuzzi, just about everything that has any real value.
Shoot me an email at donkichiyahoo.com and I will shoot you the digits or email.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
BadgerHawk on December 23, 2009 at 3:09 PM
No, not Dustoff but those guys are mine. I’m the UH60 SIP for 82ND CAB and currently flying down at a small detachment for SOTF guys. You know I can’t get more specific. Can you say who you work for?
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Ok that is just stupid and insane. There is no reason to pay a tax on something you own.
upinak on December 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Plenty and we were floored at the great selection you sent. Very nice. We’re keeping them in the CP for guys to check out and then we’ll either pass them on to the 101 guys if they put up a detachment like ours, or just give them to the enlisted guys to divy up and take home if there’s no one to pass them on to.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Roger. I support you guys and the guys you are supporting. I run the tan satellite system they have sitting on the connex behind their plywood palace the maintenance guys order their parts off of. I work for ArCent but am supported by 143rd soon to be 135th. Supported SGT Wallace down at your CSSAMO shop on the flight line, if you know her.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Yes, it is quite insane. But all I have to do is look across the border at MD and I deal with it.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:17 PM
I swear IE8 has some spell check thng that changes my words.
But yes, I like the Christmas Story lamp!
WashJeff on December 23, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Sounds great. In the mean time, if you’re down on the flightline, our CP is in between to the Canadians new UAV hanger of the 82nd CAB med station. Ask for the Renegades.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:18 PM
It is after midnight…
our CP is in between the Canadians new UAV hanger and the 82nd CAB med station. (Right next to the small “Wings” pax terminal)
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Do whatever is best, they are belong to y’all. She did seem to have stuff for just about everybody. All three of the kids loved Boondock Saints.
Cindy Munford on December 23, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Heh, I will be over there tomorrow at the medlog right next to the med station. Will ask around.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM
The only thing that I find “unexpected” is that this poor sick Republic is still not in default . . . although I expect that soon.
rplat on December 23, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Yup, and I have an early meeting. Catch up with you at some point I am sure.
donkichi on December 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM
I don’t think I know SGT Wallace. We’re a gigantic CAB. She would probably know me though because of my rank from working with our Colonel. I’ll drop you an e-mail and it would be great to meet another fellow Hot Air commenter here.
Take care all.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:27 PM
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:27 PM
geez it is late…
my rank “or” from working with…
G-nite all.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Roger that. Said hi in a e-mail to Mr Munford too.
hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 3:41 PM
He forwarded it to me. Sweet dreams.
Cindy Munford on December 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Après le décembre, le déluge… vous le lisez ici d’abord!
ya2daup on December 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM
OMG…. We ended up funding people who could afford to buy houses. Big Middle Class Fat Cats. TAX THEM…. TAX THEM… 90% of their income. While Americans are struggling, these fat cats are taking advantage of taxpayer money. Shameful.
Let me be clear. I will not rest until houses are selling, banks are working, cars are selling, Americans are working….
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Unprecedented is a way to hide the lie.
antisocial on December 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I had to pay Kentucky $340 for coal that I own that hasn’t been dug up yet! It’s called the unmined coal tax.
Oldnuke on December 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I’m on the front lines of the mortgage biz every day, and I must disagree with Ed’s statement that the $8000 incentive is not the difference between a home being affordable or not.
Many more than half the first time home buyers that I have helped this year got thier downpayment as a gift from mom and dad. A gift that they plan to repay with a portion of their $8000 refund.
This incentive isn’t stealing as many deals from the future as Cash for Clunkers. Some, maybe, but there are lots of deals closing that would not have been made..ever…without the $8000 incentive.
DrW on December 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Obama’s depression has “unexpectedly” gotten worse!
Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Um…so the parents loaned $8000…so the government could print $8000 and send it to them???? Ow my head.
How bout $8000 and a note? If the kid has equity in a house then someday he can pay off Mom & Dad with a home equity line instead of running up the national debt and helping screw the dollar? Oh wait, I know the answer already…”That’s my security” Ow ow ow ow
Chris_Balsz on December 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Weine nicht, wenn der Regen fällt,
Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM
I have not seen juggling acts like this since the Ted Mack Show.
bluegrass on December 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Not to worry, we have rewarded Chris Dodd with a new hospital for his part in this scheme. Yes Obama, politics as usual. The devil and his deciples.
bluegrass on December 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Fragen Sie nicht, für wen die Entlassung kommt, kommt es für dich.
ya2daup on December 24, 2009 at 1:22 AM
(AP NEW YORK) Dec. 24th….The sun rose in the east unexpectedly today.
angryed on December 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM
It is amusing to see AP (associated press, not the HotAir blogger) using words like ‘unexpectedly’ in a ‘news report’. The AP motto should be ‘Adverbs Provided without documentation’. It becomes more and more amusing to see AP called a ‘news service’
If they want to help the economy, how about an $8000 tax credit for everyone? They call it a tax ‘cut’. Fund the essentials, war, SSA, and the mail by selling Treasuries. They do anyway. And stop spending money on non essentials until the credit truly kicks in.
Sorry, I was hallucinating for a moment
Since I have gone mad, also withold salaries, healthcare, and government paid donut and flower deliveries to all members of Congress. The primal scream would wake the world as the overfed, overage fetuses running the show would feel the pangs of detachment from the uterus
entagor on December 24, 2009 at 12:19 PM
My madness expands. How do you remove a fatted calf with fangs from the teats of the cow, without injuring the cow?
entagor on December 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Duh.
Just DUH.
Saltysam on December 24, 2009 at 1:33 PM
The Democratic talking heads however will stick with the +7% number thank you very much.
Dr. ZhivBlago on December 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM
How much does it cost to buy a vacant house out of foreclosure?
Brian Paasch on December 25, 2009 at 4:25 PM
This makes sense since Durable Goods also took a nose dive…
jerrytbg on December 25, 2009 at 5:40 PM
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