Jihadist cleric: Hasan’s very first e-mail to me was about killing American soldiers

posted at 5:03 pm on December 23, 2009 by Allahpundit

Well, look at it this way. AQ’s training for 9/11 was sort of a “research project” too.

Awlaki claims that Hasan initiated the e-mail correspondence with a message on Dec. 17, 2008. “He was asking about killing U.S. soldiers and officers,” said Awlaki. “His question was is it legitimate [under Islamic law].”

The Al Jazeera questioner asks for confirmation that Hasan forwarded this query nearly a year before the shooting.

“Yes,” responds Awlaki. “I am astonished. Where was American intelligence that claimed once that it can read any car plate number anywhere in the world?”

Hasan and Awlaki exchanged as many as 18 e-mails in the year prior to the shooting. As ABC News had previously reported exclusively, Hasan had discussed martyrdom with Awlaki, asking when jihad is appropriate, and whether it is permissible if there are innocents killed in a suicide attack. Hasan also told Awlaki he looked forward to seeing him in the afterlife and sharing non-alcoholic wine.

Aulaqi has every motive to lie, but in light of all the red flags and ABC’s corroborating evidence, anyone want to bet against his version at this point? Meanwhile, the burning legal issue in the case right now is whether it’s a violation of Hasan’s rights to forbid him from speaking Arabic over the phone.

One silver lining: Big media has, it seems, decided that there was more to Hasan’s “Allahu Akbar” cannonade than PTSD.


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I look forward to the US permanently curing his PTSD.

GnuBreed on December 23, 2009 at 5:07 PM

In plain sight.

RobCon on December 23, 2009 at 5:07 PM

it’s a violation of Hasan’s rights to forbid him from speaking Arabic over the phone.

Don’t let him use the phone. He isn’t violating and he can’t speak arabic to anyone. Or bug the phone aka the patriot act. Hmmmm I guess that backfired on the Dems concerning that.

Simple luck.

upinak on December 23, 2009 at 5:09 PM

…butbutbut he’s not a terrorist, just suffering from second hand PTSD. /s

stackedeck on December 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM

My favorite quote from the movie Speed:

Everybody is F#@%ing Fired!

mad saint jack on December 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM

“He was asking about killing U.S. soldiers and officers,” said Awlaki. “His question was is it legitimate [under Islamic law].”

Probably have to double check on that with Chris Matthews.

oldfiveanddimer on December 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM

And yet somehow…no one in a position of authority, with the ability to stop this in it’s tracks early on, saw this as a problem?

Another Spectacularly , awesome, brainless, do nothing move, by those working security in our nations government.

We pay for this…then we should be able to say to any, and all that dropped the ball on this….You’re FIRED!!!!

Sorry Mr. Trump. It had to be said.

capejasmine on December 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Fanatical muslim terrorist.

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:14 PM

capejasmine on December 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM

PC on steroids.

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:15 PM

I am in the San Antonio area, and you wouldnt BELIEVE the local media whitewashing of this TERRORIST and the TERRORIST ATTACK he committed.

You just wouldnt believe it.

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Someone habd that man a little Virgin Mary statue and watch what happens.

Better yet… Get a Hustler playboy in there!

upinak on December 23, 2009 at 5:17 PM

My first instinct is that Aulaqi is lying. What he is claiming to be truth just happens to be the most damaging and insulting to the USA and anyone else involved in this.

On the other hand, if he is telling the truth I wouldn’t be shocked.

Mord on December 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM

now is whether it’s a violation of Hasan’s rights to forbid him from speaking Arabic over the phone.
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Ugh,a violation,I bet,their is some Leftys that think,Hasan should have internet access,with e-mails as well!!

canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 5:19 PM

I am in the San Antonio area, and you wouldnt BELIEVE the local media whitewashing of this TERRORIST and the TERRORIST ATTACK he committed.

You just wouldnt believe it.

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM

It’s pretty pathetic when even Texans embrace dhimmitude.

Disturb the Universe on December 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM

The POS administration in office still has not called it a terrorist attack.

royzer on December 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Another Spectacularly , awesome, brainless, do nothing move, by those working security in our nations government.

capejasmine on December 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM

capejasmine:This happened before,the run up to 911,with
Team Clinton dropping the ball all the way!

De Jevu,Liberal F#%^&*(&^$%^%&k up,once again!:)

canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM

The POS administration in office still has not called it a terrorist attack.

royzer on December 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM

royzer: Um…ah…um..to be clear,ah..um..its a Man Made
Disaster!!(sarc):)

canopfor on December 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM

This kinda flashes back to the old Eddie Murphy/SNL ‘Most likely to kill Buckwheat’ skit. This guy spent almost an entire year walking around in a ‘Got Jihad?’ t-shirt, and no one noticed. To me, this means there’s another one out there waiting to attack. What’s being done to stop him?

joejm65 on December 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Hmm, I’m beginning to think religion played a role in this.

Chris Matthews, sir, what do you think?

Funny how Matthews can see “racial tribalism” behind the opposition to Obama but isn’t sure whether radical Islam was a motivating factor behind Hasan’s acts.

Sometimes I think liberals and conservatives were really raised on different planets.

SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM

In the days when common sense was common place … this scumbag would have been dead by now.

This POS doesn’t deserve anything but the barest necessities to keep him alive until his trial.

darwin on December 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Is there is Nidal ornamanet on the WH Chritmas tree ?
Someone should check

macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM

This administration is PRO-ISLAMIC TERRORISM, from the top down. It’s rightly referred to as a Pro-jihad regime or the pro-islamist Obama regime. It’s one long bow to these scum. Because that’s who Obama/Holder are–scum.

Western_Civ on December 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM

First time posting from my new iphone!

He’s pretty quick to blame our intel guys, but he could have said something sooner.

Tony737 on December 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM

He’s a freaking PRISONER! He’ll do what he’s damned well told! Here’s a tie-breaker for dear old Hasan, you don’t speak ENGLISH, we DON’T FEED YOU!

GarandFan on December 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM

It’s pretty pathetic when even Texans embrace dhimmitude.

Disturb the Universe on December 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Many of the newspapers in large Texas towns are not locally owned. The Houston Chronicle is owned by a Canadian company and is about as far left as you can imagine.

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM

It’s pretty pathetic when even Texans embrace dhimmitude.

Disturb the Universe on December 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Its cause for a total facepalm.

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

This administration is PRO-ISLAMIC TERRORISM, from the top down.

Then why are they prosecuting this guy? Or launching missiles at Taliban and AQ in Pakistan and Afghanistan? Or sending 35,000 more troops to fight the Islamists?

Sorry, your claim is absurd.

SteveMG on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

The POS administration in office still has not called it a terrorist attack.

royzer on December 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM

That’s because they know that this is the first terror attack on US soil since 9/11-and they OWN IT, and they can’t Blame It On Bush. They own it lock stock and barrel.

Mission Accomplished!

Del Dolemonte on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I’d guess right this minute Christina Matthews is busy formulating a rationalization for this lunacy.

Metro on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Due to political correctness:

Liberals are in denial that ‘radical’ muslims want to kill Americans

Conservatives are in denial that ‘moderate’ muslims want to kill Americans.

And until people finally learn that Islam is a death cult whose mandate is to forcibly convert, subjugate or kill all non-muslims and dominate the world, Americans will keep dying.

thinkagain on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Yeah, the paper is not locally owned, but I was referring mostly to the local TV news coverage.

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM

He’s a freaking PRISONER! He’ll do what he’s damned well told! Here’s a tie-breaker for dear old Hasan, you don’t speak ENGLISH, we DON’T FEED YOU!

GarandFan on December 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Had the officers carried 45′s, he probably would not be speaking at all.

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Yeah, the paper is not locally owned, but I was referring mostly to the local TV news coverage.

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Maybe, ivy league journalism graduates.

Johan Klaus on December 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM

And because of the idiots on our courts, who won’t enforce our death penalty laws, taxpayers will be paying 100k a year, plus, to wipe his jihadi azz, because every life is sacred. [snort]

Blake on December 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM

I’d guess right this minute Christina Matthews is busy formulating a rationalization for this lunacy.

Metro on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Its not terrorism if a muslim kills American soldiers in an enemy camp ? Is it ? Is it?
/

macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 5:53 PM

It is not terrorism because the target was military. It was treason.

tommylotto on December 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM

This is insane.

Under military confinement such phone usage is a privilege, not a right.

Guess there are different requirements for culturally sensitive officers who engaged in acts of terrorism on US soil than for regular enlisted incarcerated for kiting checks under the current application of the UCMJ and command courts martial authority.

coldwarrior on December 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Everyone losing their rights except for these people.

bluegrass on December 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Preparing the meme when one of the Air Force bases in the San Antonio area suffer a similar attack.

chemman on December 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM

American is committed to diversity, and there’s nothing wrong with diversity. However, the way they’ve gone about “enforcing” diversity leaves us wide open to Jihad attacks because no one wants to appear to be unfairly scrutinizing those who practice the Islamic religion, whether they be soldiers in our military, university professors, or even corporate employees. Imagine if you went to your boss and said you had concerns about Abu in the next cubicle because, well, he reads the Koran all the time and he sends emails to people in Yemen. You’d probably be the one under scrutiny and sent to diversity training. Unfortunately, this kind of attack could happen anywhere and my fear is that this particular act of homicide will embolden our enemy to attack again.

scalleywag on December 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Preparing the meme when one of the Air Force bases in the San Antonio area suffer a similar attack.

chemman on December 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM

No doubt about that!

NickTx on December 23, 2009 at 6:44 PM

It is not terrorism because the target was military. It was treason.

tommylotto on December 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM

That sounds right to me. Did he join the military solely to commit Jihad against us? Was he just in there waiting for the right moment to attack?

scalleywag on December 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM

scalleywag on December 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM

With few exceptions, had this happened in a civilian setting far more people would have died. I am particularly concerned about attacks on schools since they are no gun zones even in right to carry states. Nobody there to protect the children.

chemman on December 23, 2009 at 6:46 PM

This exceptional Muslim will have the best bag licking coddling America can offer. Maybe Islam won’t hurt you any more if your nice to Hasan and let him off easy.

How are the Muslim FBI agents doing with the mystery? Still coming up empty?

We may never know.

BL@KBIRD on December 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM

And until people finally learn that Islam is a death cult whose mandate is to forcibly convert, subjugate or kill all non-muslims and dominate the world, Americans will keep dying.

thinkagain on December 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I agree wholeheartedly of course. It is the appeasement of muslims that pisses me off most. They can do what they want in any country or call tolerant foul, yet try to do anything in their faw king sh/t holes and you will be murdered on the spot.

royzer on December 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM

chemman on December 23, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Yea, that’s my fear as well. As long as we look the other way we’re in trouble. I live in a small town, work in a university, know professors who side with terrorists. (All of them left wingers, I might add.) While I don’t think they’re capable of terrorists attacks, it troubles me they sympathize with them and are teaching our students their radical beliefs.

scalleywag on December 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM

America needs to keep an eye on this Awlaki guy. He’s bad news.

SoulGlo on December 23, 2009 at 7:39 PM

America needs to keep an eye on this Awlaki Hussain guy. He’s bad news.

SoulGlo on December 23, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Thank you

macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Wonder if Stinky and Nancybaby are willing to insert a couple of billion into Obamacare for Auliki if he’ll take Hasan off our hands, get Interpol to assume custody stateside for the prisoner transfer, then blame it on Bush?

Nothing these morons do would surprise me.

Robert17 on December 23, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I remember when his arab cousin in Samaria was questioned about this terrorist and he stated that his american cousin couldn’t speak arabic. So how could it be a violation of this terrorist’s right to ban him from speaking a language that his own cousin claims he wasn’t able to speak?

eaglewingz08 on December 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM

coldwarrior on December 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Nowadays, only E-6s and below ever see the inside of a military prison.

The other day we had a breifing on suicide prevention. One of the slides was talking about PTSD and this clown was mentioned. Everybody I talked to afterwards thought it was a total slap in the face to everyone who has PTSD and to our fellow soldiers (and sister law enforcement officer) this clown killed.

As to why the Army did not do anything prior to cull him out. Just take a look at all the “mandatory” training one has to do concerning discrimination and such. No longer is the Army one color, OD Green.

Claimsratt on December 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM

royzer on December 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Thanks and likewise, its the appeasement and also the dhimmitude, the deliberate self-censorship and submission we in the West practice towards Islam/muslims.

The last thing muslims and liberals ever want us to discuss seriously is the elimination of their death cult-because it’ll mean a recognition of a truth that the Islamo-Leftist nexus are trying to suppress, that Islam is evil, we are at war with them and we must defeat them by any means.

This is not a pansy little pretend war against a handful of turban wearing ‘radical’ savages armed with AK47s but against a vast enemy that is a global fascist totalitarian movement involving one quarter of the human population.

Every person involved in the defense and expansion of Islam and is working against freedom/democracy, whether they be muslim, liberal, conservative is in fact an Islamist and an enemy combatant.

Non-muslim sympathizers of Islam are traitors and even more dangerous than the ‘known’ enemy (muslims) since we don’t perceive them as a threat. Yet if you look all over the world, who is preventing non-muslims from defending themselves against the Jihad onslaught? Leftists, ‘moderate muslims’ and other assorted “useful idiots” (as Lenin called them).

Marcus Tullius Cicero said it best:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

Not only do we have to defeat Islam but all those that deliberately or inadvertently support it. What scares me is that this war we’re in dwarfs the war against Nazism and our leaders haven’t even been able to call our enemy by their proper name.

We’re headed for some very dark times and are not prepared for what’s about to come. Europe is in the midst of it and it appears they will lose the battle if they don’t fight back soon. We shouldn’t be so arrogant or complacent to think it can’t happen here…its only a matter of time. With a Mohammedan president, our decline has accelerated. Al Qaeda could only dream of wreaking the kind of devastation to the country that Obama is getting away with ‘legally’.

Military strategists have pointed out that Iran’s latest ballistic missiles are sophisticated enough to penetrate US and Israeli BMD shields. All Iran needs to do to destroy America is set off an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) from one nuclear blast 200 kms above the USA and the nationwide electrical grid, cars, electronics will be wiped out and America will be back in the stone age again. No one is taking this threat seriously or even talking about it. If America falls, so will the rest of the free world.

It took only 19 muslims to kill nearly 3000 Americans. People need to understand that in our technological age, a few ‘bad actors’ can cause the deaths of thousands or millions. This is why our leaders need to start taking this seriously.

I think this Nidal Hasan case was archetypal example in exposing exactly what is wrong with people’s perception of Islam and how to deal with it. Anyways, I’ll stop rambling, I’m sure I’m only preaching to the choir, its the idiot liberals and their ilk who need an education and wake-up call.

thinkagain on December 24, 2009 at 2:35 AM

It’s pretty pathetic when even Texans embrace dhimmitude.

I doubt TEXANS embrace any such thing. The newspaper does, and it is likely owned by some outfit in the northeast. That the radio and TV do is a “given”, because of their being part of – or subscribers to news feeds from – ABC, NBC, CBS (see? BS!), NPR, and AP.

friendlygrizzly on December 24, 2009 at 6:18 AM

Hang him. Put his belt around his neck in his cell, and just hang him. Make it look like a suicide. He’s at war with me, I’m at war with him. You lose ahole……..If I could only be President for a day………..

adamsmith on December 24, 2009 at 6:20 AM

Last I heard Hasan, the murderer of 14, was in the Army. In the Army you don’t have civil rights. You will speak when spoken to. You will be quite when told to be quiet. You will speak English as that is a direct order from DAY ONE! Anybody here have relatives at the USDB?

Blacksmith8 on December 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM

To truly win this against these people we have to start thinking in terms of “What Would Patton Do”?

If Gen. George S. were in change, this guy would already be at the end of a rope. I’d prefer four ropes and four horses, but then again, I didn’t get everything I wanted for Christmas, so I’ll deal with a single Gallows…….

adamsmith on December 26, 2009 at 6:22 AM