White House: We didn’t know Mao was on our Christmas ornaments

posted at 9:15 pm on December 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

Big fun via Big Government and Breitbart.

Why let a holiday season come between the White House and making some political statements? The White House pegged controversial designer Simon Doonan to oversee the Christmas decorations for the White House. Mr. Doonan, who is creative director of Barney’s New York has often caused a stir with his design choices. Like his naughty yuletide window display of Margaret Thatcher as a dowdy dominatrix and Dan Quayle as a ventriloquist’s dummy. For this year’s White House, he didn’t disappoint.

These photos of ornaments on the White House Christmas tree in the Blue Room were taken just days ago. Of course, Mao has his place in the White House.

From the photo, it looks more like a Warhol print of Mao, which ain’t quite the same as pure Mao iconography but close enough, I guess. Laying aside the fact that spotting a right-wing dictator on ornaments in the Bush White House would have had Media Matters stumbling towards its fainting couch, isn’t the most likely explanation here that they really didn’t know what was on the ornaments? Why court PR trouble with a deliberate provocation via something this trivial? More interesting to me is the fact that Doonan evidently thought this sort of thing would be welcome in a Democratic White House. What an … intriguing assumption.

Obligatory atheist exit admonition: You know, if you listened to Hitchens, this wouldn’t be a problem.


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Hitler spoke of the “collective” being above the individual. Now what ideology does that sound like to you? He most definitely followed policies of the left.

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Nope. Some of his economic policies were certainly socialist (although not nearly as socialist as many of his contemporaries), but saying that Hitler was a evil because he provided a social safety net is like saying Stalin was evil because he had a mustache.

When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism. Those traits caused the horrors of Nazism more than any basic economic policy you could cite.

Anyway, you come off as just another Jonah Goldberg tool. Admittedly, the issue is not as clear-cut as either side admits. But do some research yourself. You’ll learn a lot.

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Hitler certainly was not as big on communism as Obama.

Johan Klaus on December 22, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Of COURSE they would select a designer that designs the windows for Barney’s in New York. Of COURSE the community groups would not realize this was inappropriate for the White House tree. It looks to me like the “designers” used Mod Podge or Elmer’s glue to paste pictures amateurishly on regular ornaments. These are the same people of impeccable taste that tell Michelle she looks GOOD in her wide belts and kitten heels.

Spunky06 on December 22, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I. AM. JOE. WILSON.

Yellowdog12 on December 22, 2009 at 10:28 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Hitler was a Darwinist and Hitler was a left wing dictator, like Stalin who had about the same traits.

Johan Klaus on December 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM

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nondhimmie on December 22, 2009 at 10:31 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Nationalization of industry, valuing the collective over the individual, government controlling production of goods – all of these are extreme left policies. The right stands for limited government and individualism, not collectivism, which is what Hitler stood for. Then you have to factor in his obsession with eugenics. One of his biggest inspirations in that regard was Margaret Sanger, who is loved by left wing women, i.e. Hillary Clinton.

Racism, purification, and supremacy are not inherently right or left. Gandhi, for example, despised African culture and wanted to the white race to remain as the dominant race in South Africa. You wouldn’t consider him a rightist, would you?

“We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race.” – Gandhi

“Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw Kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness.” – Gandhi

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM

I’m surprised he didn’t have a Mapplethorpe on display instead of a tree.

madmonkphotog on December 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM

I am waaaaaay past tired of this Il Duce wannabe pissing on EVERYTHING American.

FUCK Obama.

At the moment I do NOT have a President.

2010 we need to take back the country through the ballot box…otherwise in 2011 we just need to take back the country.

Justrand on December 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Gosh,these intellectuals are just so smart,it blinds me!

theTarCzar on December 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Mt. Rushmore with President Obama’s face on it is actually more insulting.

BadgerHawk on December 22, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM

I read the first page of comments to give you props. I knew somebody had to catch Allah’s false premise before I.

I’ll not feed the trolls on this point, either. Hitler was a right wing dictator? That is insane. The right has never produced a despot or a tyrant.

Allah, you should know better. Weren’t you just smacked down two weeks ago?

roscopico on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

They knew. Now we know. And there is the rub because we can’t seem to do anything about it.

But I have hope that because they seem wired to keep doing this crap that they will very soon do something that is impeachable, that not even the Dems can ignore. And the Dems are pretty upset with them right now- ripe ground.

Keep pushing Obama. I hope to see you in an orange jumpsuit and leggings by Christmas 2010.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM

:eyes roll:

ProudPalinFan on December 22, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM

What a mess you’ve created. Now you’re just purposefully muddying the waters. Hillary Clinton? Gandhi? Because Gandhi was racist towards Africans…Hitler was a left-wing dictator? To call that logic convoluted would be a compliment.

To reiterate, the Nazi’s had a mixed record on economic policies, it’s extremely disingenuous for you to act as if they were doctrinaire Marxists. Indeed, they hated the Marxists. And even if they were economic liberals, as I pointed out earlier…that has little to do with why the Nazi’s were so bad. Suffice to say, it wasn’t the social welfare state which killed the Jews. If an extensive social safety net were so inherently bad, then every state in Europe would be a Holocaust machine right now.

Ugh. And then there’s this…

The right stands for limited government

No they don’t. If you guys all were strict libertarians I might let you get away with saying that, but of course that’s not the case. Search a prison reform thread, or a gay marriage threads on here and let’s see how much you guys believe in limited government. To borrow a quote from fellow HA poster Enrique…

Conservatives are fine with inappropriate expansions of government power as long as they have a badge. Or are done in the name of Jesus.

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I know it has probably already been said, but I miss Laura Bush. She was real, and old school in the good way. She is charming and has style.

Kristamatic on December 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM

roscopico on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

When you repeat a lie enough times, people start to believe it. That is exactly what happened with this notion that Hitler was right wing. It’s like the myth of Obama being a great speaker. Name one great speaker that stutters as much as him and puts emphasis on all the wrong words.

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Eliminationism, Joe, Mao, Ho, Pol
Racism, Joe, Mao, Ho, Pol
Militarism, Joe, Mao, Ho, Pol
Hyper-nationalism, Joe, Mao, Ho, Pol
Anti-intellectualism, Joe, Mao, Ho, Pol

Mae on December 22, 2009 at 11:07 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

You completely skipped over my argument about racism, purification, and supremacy. Interesting. Your entire argument about Hitler relies on the “fact” that those things are characteristics of the right. They’re not. My point of bringing up Gandhi was to show that you can still be a leftist and be a racist.

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 11:07 PM

When you repeat a lie enough times, people start to believe it. That is exactly what happened with this notion that Hitler was right wing

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

“Like…dude…I read this Jonah Goldberg book and it totally blew my mind. Hitler wasn’t a right-winger man. All those historians and academics got it wrong!”

Sometimes (much of the time, really) the conventional wisdom is, well…right. This is one of those times.

I feel a bit bad for embarrassing you with the whole wikipedia incident (make sure you read the whole entry next time!), but hopefully you learned something tonight. Just as you shouldn’t take every history book you read at face value, you shouldn’t take every Jonah Goldberg book at face value. Do your own research. Read both sides. And always wear sun-tan lotion.

Later.

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Here’s the Al Gore Rythm chosen this year for decorating the nation’s Christmas Tree. Apparently, Michelle Obama had this idea:

“We took about 800 ornaments left over from previous administrations, we sent them to 60 local community groups throughout the country, and asked them to decorate them to pay tribute to a favorite local landmark and then send them back to us for display here at the White House.”

So, somewhere, in some community in this great nation, sits a picture of Chairman Mao which is a local landmark worthy of being paid tribute.

unclesmrgol on December 22, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Of course someone says Hitler was a “Darwinist”. I suspect he also believed the Earth went around the sun so that made him a Gallileanist too. He might even have believed that germs cause disease.

I’m almost done with On The Origin of Species and so far I haven’t seen any mention of politics, or any advocacy of the extermination of man.

Darwin is to blame for the holocaust in the same way that Jesus is to blame for the inquisition.

deewhybee on December 22, 2009 at 11:15 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Well I can’t speak for everyone else, but my view on gay marriage is a limited government view. Government should get out the marriage business altogether and just handle the legal side of things. Leave the marriage ceremony stuff up to the Churches and let them decide who can and can not get “married.”

But just because someone on the right wants to prohibit gays from marrying, doesn’t mean that limited government is not a policy of the right. Leftists sure as heck aren’t advocating it. Most libertarians I know would consider themselves to be on the right side.

Back to my point about Sanger. You made it about Hillary when I was actually talking about Sanger. She was also a leftist. This woman wanted a pure society, and to achieve that, she wanted to weed out people that, in her opinion, had bad characteristics (sick, poverty stricken, dumb, lazy, etc.). Who does that sound like to you? Starts with an H. :-D

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM

When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism. Those traits caused the horrors of Nazism more than any basic economic policy you could cite.

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

You’re more than a tad confused. Hitler was a statist. U.S. conservatives are individualists.

John the Libertarian on December 22, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Obowma: Dammit, it was supposed to be Che.

But do some research yourself. You’ll learn a lot.
crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM

uhhh, yea: Nazi Party or National Socialist German Workers’ Party which would explain the treaty with Italy’s socialist dictator Mussolini during World War 2.

How is living in that glass house working out for ya? Not so much, huh? Sorta mirrors that Obowma vote of yours.

dthorny on December 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Mae, you forgot to put Adolph on your lists. Was he not quilty of the same behaviors? Some of you folks need a good strong lesson in civics.

LarryG on December 22, 2009 at 11:25 PM

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM

1. I didn’t get that quote from Wikipedia. 2. The extra part that you added did nothing for your argument. He didn’t rebuke socialism, he simply was saying that the word was unnecessary and not needed. His actual policies and statements about the COLLECTIVE shows where he stood politically – and it ain’t on the right.

Now, please, address my statements on race, purification, and supremacy. You falsely tried to claim that these things made him a right winger. I would like to hear your thoughts now that you know that that is crap.

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 11:26 PM

I’m surprised he didn’t have a Mapplethorpe on display instead of a tree.

madmonkphotog on December 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM

They’re saving that for the White House Easter Egg hunt this spring…

jon1979 on December 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM

The word for the day and every day of the Obumma administration is, of course”

Unprecedented

Main Entry: un·prec·e·dent·ed
Pronunciation: \ˌən-ˈpre-sə-ˌden-təd\
Function: adjective
Date: 1623
: having no precedent : novel, unexampled

Which, as we all know by now, is not necessarily a good thing.

Goldy1 on December 22, 2009 at 11:37 PM

The Christmas Tree Czar needs to be fired;
like yesterday.

la.rt.wngr on December 22, 2009 at 11:40 PM

When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism.

Because lord knows, the left is none of those things. [rolls eyes]

capitalist piglet on December 22, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Hitch is right about the Crescent. People would freak.

ronsfi on December 22, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Obligatory atheist exit admonition: You know, if you listened to Hitchens, this wouldn’t be a problem.

If less people had listened to Hitchens they might not have voted for Obama like Hitchens did. Problem avoided ;p

aikidoka on December 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Why does the White House have to “peg” any designer to make Christmas decorations? Go to Target for Pete’s sake! It’s like Obama thinks there’s taxpayer money to burn out there! /s

KS Rex on December 23, 2009 at 12:12 AM

I never thought I’d get into your heads so much that you’d start randomly making up quotes from me. Awesome.

I’d make up a quote from you, but I don’t know who you are and can’t recall a single prior post by you. Good to know you find me memorable though!
What right wing dictator?

Narutoboy on December 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Just to get you started on a Jonah Goldberg-esque rant…

Hitler.

crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 9:57 PM

THIS is why trolls should be ignored. This bitter little boy or girl gets lots of attention around here, and makes a good point in this post. He/she is right. So, if you want to keep ‘em coming back and even making them into celebrity-trolls, just keep letting them drop their dirty bait into the water and giggle as people who should know better keep on biting – and wasting energy and wearing those of us out who are sick of hijacked threads and foul discourse that goes nowhere but into the gutter…

Sorry to the regulars, but I am SO disgusted with the HELL that is about to be unleashed on us that I cannot understand why anyone would waste one milisecond on anyone who is part of the evil – say a prayer for their conversion and move on – please.

tigerlily on December 23, 2009 at 12:20 AM

Dearest Laura Bush NEVER got this wrong. Michelle is a loser First Lady, no unlike Rosalind.

YankeeinCA on December 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Either the 0bamas fscked up, which makes them fsckups, or they honestly didn’t know that someone who makes window displays of Margaret Thatcher as a dominatrix might do something tasteless. Which makes them dumbfscks.

So either 0bama is a fsckup or a dumbfsck. I don’t see where one is preferable to the other.

Sekhmet on December 23, 2009 at 12:42 AM

Whatever they are, they sure are tacky. And not in a cool, hip way.

di butler on December 23, 2009 at 1:36 AM

SO tired of indoctrinated dips thinking (and arguing) that Hitler was of the Right.

/And that the Democrats weren’t the party of slavery, and Jim Crow / KKK -driven gun bans against blacks.

rayra on December 23, 2009 at 2:37 AM

There’s no such thing as a “Right Wing Dictator”. There are only 2 kinds of government–totalitarian and representative republics. I know the left likes to say fascism is on the far right, but Obama is pretty much running the country on that platform. Even anarchists, claiming to want no govt at all, are totalitarian as they are the ones who really want to run the show.

txhsmom on December 23, 2009 at 2:39 AM

Why is it that Obama’s best defense is always to plead complete ignorance?

Wasn’t he supposed to be the smartest guy in the room?

mad saint jack on December 23, 2009 at 2:46 AM

“Umm, those ornaments…ahh…were here….errr, ahh…before I got here…annnnnd, ummm….were here…umm…when I was…uhhh,ya know…was 8 years old….in Kenya…ahh…Hawaii. They were just….umm, err….some ornaments I found….ya know…around the neighboorhood”.

Odd, no Christmas honor to our Lord and Savior Jesus until shamed into it but ornaments to Mao and homosexuals. The man is a disgrace.

dthorny on December 23, 2009 at 3:24 AM

This is an unforgivable slap in the face to all Christians and American patriots. The Obama family, including Michelle Obama’s mother, have been afforded the privilege of residing in the White House and they are responsible for all that goes on in it. There is no excuse for this blatant insult to most Americans – NONE.

Barack Obama has made a mockery out of the position of President of the United States of America/Commander-in-Chief. 2012 cannot come soon enough.

sinsing on December 23, 2009 at 3:29 AM

And Beck was excoriated by the Leftists when he pointed out the Mussolini image in art deco work at Rockefeller Plaza.

Hitler and Mussolini were admired by progressive-minded people here in the states and abroad. They liked the idea of a ruling elite bringing social order to society. Their sanitized view of Lenin and Stalin was in no way going to make them realize any conflict between Fascism and Bolshevism as they are actually pretty much the same.

One can compare Hitler/Mussolini to Stalin/Mao…and come up with any real differences? The only difference is that Fascism being nation-based is more difficult to export whereas Communism is international-based…at least in theory. Anyone who says that a big difference is that the Soviets weren’t racists knows nothing about how the Muscovites treated the ethnics in the surrounding soviet republics.

It’s the fact that the Nazis and the Fascists were utterly defeated and were our enemies that have allowed the Left to portray them as being the definitive conservatives/right wingers. You can call someone a “Nazi” and it brings up negative connotations and the sheeple bleat “baaaa-aad…baaaad”. Call someone a “Commie” and the sheeple only blink and think, “Oh, like Meathead in All In the Family? Oh, I liked him…he was educated, funny and wasn’t grumpy like that ol’ Archie.”

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 23, 2009 at 3:46 AM

When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism.

Exactly….just like Democrats.

xblade on December 23, 2009 at 3:57 AM

cr666,

You’re a tool and an unabashed shill for your party no matter the sick things they do. You couldn’t come here and comment about the basic topic of the thread. Namely, your president hired an artist to decorate a Christmas tree who is a political hack, who has a history of disrespectful “artistic” renderings of Conservatives, who put a picture of Mao on a Christmas Tree ornament. Considering you claimed no link or support to the more radical part of your party (Namely the black bandana wearing thugs who beat up opposing point of view at “peace” rallies and harass war heros at recruiting stations and on college campuses), you seem to be okay with this. Further, you claimed I was worse than said black bandana wearing thugs from your party and how did that make me feel and then never came back to comment about my answer to you. Why, because you’re the worst troll on this site and a coward to boot.

I really would have thought you might want to take this opportunity to distance yourself from this very ugly face of your party, but wow. I guess this really is you.

But nice Hitler, straw-man arguments! Really!

hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 4:08 AM

Let’s have a back to square one fresh start here, shall we cr666? Your president hired an artist who put Mao on a Christmas Tree ornament. How does that make you feel? Are you proud?

hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 4:12 AM

isn’t the most likely explanation here that they really didn’t know what was on the ornaments?

Likely if they immediately removed the ornament when they found out. Did they?

Ronnie on December 23, 2009 at 5:09 AM

So have these dispicable ornaments been taken down or not ?

macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM

The White House pegged controversial designer

 
Anyone know the total cost for something like this?

rogerb on December 23, 2009 at 5:54 AM

Obligatory atheist exit admonition: You know, if you listened to Hitchens, this wouldn’t be a problem.

Course, if you didn’t get an atheist to design your Christmas tree, you wouldn’t get caught up in this cognitive dissonance either.

You didn’t put up a Christmas tree, did you AP? Disingenuousness is so childish.

Squiggy on December 23, 2009 at 6:20 AM

Dearest Laura Bush NEVER got this wrong. Michelle is a loser First Lady, no unlike Rosalind.

YankeeinCA on December 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM

THEY ARE LYING. THEY DID EQUATE MAO TO JESUS.

THEY ARE COMMUNISTS. If you’re surprised … then you’re blind.

If you’re skeptic on their being communist … GO TO CHICAGO WHERE COMMUNISM AND BLACK THEOLOGY GOT MIXED UP!

TheAlamos on December 23, 2009 at 6:25 AM

Like his naughty yuletide window display of Margaret Thatcher as a dowdy dominatrix and Dan Quayle as a ventriloquist’s dummy.

Wow, what a big bad anti-establishment rebel!

That window display is the equivalent of being 12 and playing music slightly too loud to annoy your parents.

mudskipper on December 23, 2009 at 7:11 AM

Unbelievable. Mao was the greatest mass murderer in history! What the hell were they thinking?

madne0 on December 23, 2009 at 7:16 AM

Obama really brought some class to the Office of the President.

shov74 on December 23, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I used to love to watch HG TV showing how the White House was decorated during Laura Bush’s time there. They start the planning in the Spring and then huge teams of decorator volunteers come and do the work in a short amount of time. These people would have to be vetted in order to be inside working. To me it is just one more example of them surrounding themselves with progressives who push the boundaries of good taste in order to make political statements.

Spunky06 on December 23, 2009 at 7:41 AM

No one is buying the horse crap Bozo is shoveling anymore. He and his family are commies. Pure and simple.

What a disgrace.

dogsoldier on December 23, 2009 at 7:49 AM

How much did they hire this designer for?

Those ornaments look like a resized image of some teen’s bedroom wall.

No class.

reaganaut on December 23, 2009 at 8:11 AM

These folks are just ‘effing fools and tools.

skatz51 on December 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM

When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism. Those traits caused the horrors of Nazism more than any basic economic policy you could cite.

Because the left does not have militarism and hyper nationalism (see communist china, the USSR, Pol Pot, Castro, etc).

Nor do they have eliminationism (what the hell stupidity is that) and racism: again, see china, ussr, pol pot, castro, etc. they all had various pogroms and major killing fields. Indeed, the left has killed many more millions of people than the right is even accused of.

As to the idiotic idea of “anti-intellectualism”, your quote above proves that your side has the title on that one too.

You don’t even know a thing about history. All of the things you point to as making the nazi’s “of the right” fit much more easily into what the socialists and communists have actually done in this world than in what’s in your fevered imagination of what the right wants to do. Thus, again, the Nazi’s economic, social, and military policies all dovetail with the left – making them again a purely left party.

Monkeytoe on December 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM

“You don’t even know a thing about history. All of the things you point to as making the nazi’s “of the right” fit much more easily into what the socialists and communists have actually done in this world than in what’s in your fevered imagination of what the right wants to do.”

Here’s one Bush-hating anti-war atheist’s take on it:

http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm

ebrown2 on December 23, 2009 at 9:18 AM

A representative quote:

“Fascism was a movement with its roots primarily in the left. Its leaders and initiators were secular-minded, highly progressive intellectuals, hard-headed haters of existing society and especially of its most bourgeois aspects.

There were also non-leftist currents which fed into Fascism; the most prominent was the nationalism of Enrico Corradini. This anti-liberal, anti-democratic movement was preoccupied with building Italy’s strength by accelerated industrialization. Though it was considered rightwing at the time, Corradini called himself a socialist, and similar movements in the Third World would later be warmly supported by the left.

Fascism was intellectually sophisticated. Fascist theory was more subtle and more carefully thought out than Communist doctrine. As with Communism, there was a distinction between the theory itself and the “line” designed for a broad public. Fascists drew upon such thinkers as Henri Bergson, William James, Gabriel Tarde, Ludwig Gumplowicz, Vilfredo Pareto, Gustave Le Bon, Georges Sorel, Robert Michels, Gaetano Mosca, Giuseppe Prezzolini, Filippo Marinetti, A.O. Olivetti, Sergio Panunzio, and Giovanni Gentile.

Here we should note a difference between Marxism and Fascism. The leader of a Marxist political movement is always considered by his followers to be a master of theory and a theoretical innovator on the scale of Copernicus. Fascists were less prone to any such delusion. Mussolini was more widely-read than Lenin and a better writer, but Fascist intellectuals did not consider him a major contributor to the body of Fascist theory, more a leader of genius who could distil theory into action.

Fascists were radical modernizers. By temperament they were neither conservative nor reactionary. Fascists despised the status quo and were not attracted by a return to bygone conditions. Even in power, despite all its adaptations to the requirements of the immediate situation, and despite its incorporation of more conservative social elements, Fascism remained a conscious force for modernization. (21)”

ebrown2 on December 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Dadgumit, he even has a radical decorate our WH for Christmas. Does dear leader know any normal non-radical people. This is just another middle finger salute to the American people.

Kissmygrits on December 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Just effing sick.

Alden Pyle on December 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM

‘Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the White House, not a Commie was stirring, not even a Mao.

Crashpanic on December 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

ain’t it amazing how these kinds of innocent mistakes/comments/staffers/friends keep piling up under the same point on the ideological spectrum? I mean, what are the chances?

Golden Boy on December 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Gee, I wonder who is the Hedda Lettuce fan at the White House? hmmmm?

james23 on December 23, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Allah’s ‘gee whiz’ commentary is almost as funny as the story.

james23 on December 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Why would you need expert help planning a Christmas display? Is it an upper middle thing to separate you from the Walmart set? Was the point to have us admire Michelle’s taste in designers more than her ability to find a nice tree and enough matching colored glass balls?

Chris_Balsz on December 23, 2009 at 10:29 AM

“Why would you need expert help planning a Christmas display?”

Because traditional Xmas decorations are for “bitter clingers,” that’s why.

These people are vanguardist elitist leftist filth. They are unworthy of running a lemonade stand let alone the US.

ebrown2 on December 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM

‘Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the White House, not a Commie was stirring, not even a Mao. Crashpanic on December 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Well done.

(Cliff Claven moment) It’s a little known fact that Mao actually means cat in Chinese.

I wonder if baby Jesus made the cut to be displayed in the White House celebration of kitsch, crass, and bombast this Christmas?

Mojave Mark on December 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Somewhere, John Lennon is laughing.

…if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao,
you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.

Bigfoot on December 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM

ChickaBOOMer: Well-Hung
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/12/well-hung.html

StewartIII on December 23, 2009 at 12:08 PM

<blockquote

I’ll not feed the trolls on this point, either. Hitler was a right wing dictator? That is insane. The right has never produced a despot or a tyrant.

roscopico on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Wait…what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
yea ok…

Norvell on December 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM

2010 we need to take back the country through the ballot box…otherwise in 2011 we just need to take back the country.

Justrand on December 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM

You’re singing my tune.

Mirimichi on December 23, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Whatever they are, they sure are tacky. And not in a cool, hip way.

di butler on December 23, 2009 at 1:36 AM

But, but, they’ve got that fancy eatin’ table,
and that see-ment pond.

mrt721 on December 23, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I’m surprised he didn’t have a Mapplethorpe on display instead of a tree.
madmonkphotog on December 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM

They’re saving that for the White House Easter Egg hunt this spring…
jon1979 on December 22, 2009

I thought Obama’s safe fisting czar was in charge of that.

SKYFOX on December 23, 2009 at 12:50 PM

When it is okay to adorn the Christmas tree with communist icons, you know the country is in trouble.

Disturb the Universe on December 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM

The Obamas have so cheapened the White House and the office of the presidency. Laura Bush exhibited total class in everything she did and in her appearance. No sleeveless dresses with big prints and no shorts getting off Air Force One. She was always groomed impeccably with her hair and makeup done nicely. We expect the people who live there to uphold a certain decorum that goes with the top office in the land – we don’t want them looking like us in our casual clothes.

Michelle said on Oprah’s special that they sent previously done ornaments to be redone by “community” groups. I know Laura Bush had artists from each state one year hand paint something representative of their state, so to take something like that and cover with crappy paper pictures that looks like kindergarden work, seems to be a travesty to me. I’m surprised they even put up Christmas trees. It’s all so sad.

silvernana on December 23, 2009 at 2:31 PM

“When people call Hitler a right-wing dictator, they’re talking about the eliminationism, racism, militarism, hyper-nationalism and anti-intellectualism. Those traits caused the horrors of Nazism more than any basic economic policy you could cite.”

So what is different from Stalin’s Russia.

davod on December 23, 2009 at 2:44 PM

cr666,

Nice. How old are you? 12?

You’re a tool and an unabashed shill for your party no matter the sick things they do. You couldn’t come here and comment about the basic topic of the thread. Namely, your president hired an artist to decorate a Christmas tree who is a political hack, who has a history of disrespectful “artistic” renderings of Conservatives, who put a picture of Mao on a Christmas Tree ornament.

Hawkdriver is the self-appointed king of what people can comment on. Duly noted.

Anyways, I didn’t comment on it because there’s nothing really worth saying. It’s a humorous mistake, as AP alluded to..

Big fun via Big Government and Breitbart.

No use crapping your pants over it. It must be exhausting to be perpetually outraged and frightened.

Further, you claimed I was worse than said black bandana wearing thugs from your party and how did that make me feel and then never came back to comment about my answer to you. Why, because you’re the worst troll on this site and a coward to boot.

Or I didn’t check back to the thread, because I had better things to do at the time. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

Mainly though, I found you kind of boring and tiresome. You traffic in the typical wingut fair, so batting you around for a few posts is plenty.

But nice Hitler, straw-man arguments! Really!

hawkdriver on December 23, 2009 at 4:08 AM

Thanks! And you did such a terrific job refuting them!

crr6 on December 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM

crr6 on December 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Still avoiding the debate, eh I guess it’s what you have to do when you’ve lost the argument.

Anyhow, as for was Hitler left or right, I think it can be seen most simply by the intense hatred between National Socialism and Communism. That kind of hatred it only born out of two rivals to the same “truth”. It’s the kind of intense hatred only seen in Catholic vs Protestant for dominance of Christianity, Sunni vs Shia for dominance of Islam, or Japan vs China for title of natural leader of East Asia. National Socialism and Communism absolutely despised each other since they were fighting for dominance of the same “truth”, control of global leftist ideology.

jarodea on December 23, 2009 at 3:33 PM

To borrow a quote from fellow HA poster Enrique…

Conservatives are fine with inappropriate expansions of government power as long as they have a badge.
crr6 on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Nope. I just refuse to blame a cop for getting in somebody’s face with a weapon, in situations where I’d get in somebody’s face with a weapon.

Chris_Balsz on December 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM

crr6,

This ongoing desire to tar the right with the Hitler brush is just silly. The right has conservative “traditionalist” strains and libertarian strains, and the Nazis don’t fit in there anywhere. The German and Italian varieties of fascism had their parallels in England, U.S. and elsewhere. In America this parallel arrived as the “progressive” and “populist” movements and their various cousins. The line from these groups and the modern progressives takes its twists and turns, and they are hardly identical, but the line is unbroken. In the early days the villians were railroads and banks and today they are insurance companies and banks, but the accompanying nonsensical analysis is the same.

And let’s acknowledge that even the communists were just fine with Hitler until the he broke the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. Stalin’s problem with Nazism wasn’t ideological so much as it was a product of the fact that Hitler invaded the Soviet Union.

jl on December 23, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Watch out Hot Airheads…crazy Charlie is watching you and posting your comments on his site.

I tried to bring a little balance, went to log on using my LGF account and surprise…I have been blocked!

Keep playing that fun Kevin Bacon game little Charlie.

~B

Brian on December 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM

“…ornaments in the Bush White House would have had Media Matters stumbling towards its fainting couch…”

THIS is why I read Allah P. HA!

leftnomore on December 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Lefties don’t practice eliminationism?

Hmmm, I guess the over one hundred million killed deceased under the Utopian auspices of Socialism/Communism really died in a plague called dare-to-be-free-ism — just like they did under Pol Pot. Damn the right wing anyway though ;-)

flameofjudah on December 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM

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