Quotes of the day

posted at 10:44 pm on December 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

“Mr. Obama has shown himself to be a deeply partisan and polarizing figure. (‘I have never been asked to engage in a single serious negotiation on any issue, nor has any other Republican,’ Senator McCain reported over the weekend.) The lack of transparency in this process has been unprecedented and bordering on criminal. The president has been deeply misleading in selling this plan. Lobbyists, a bane of Obama during the campaign, are having a field day.

“President Obama may succeed in passing a terribly unpopular piece of legislation – but in the process, he has shattered his carefully cultivated image. It now consists of a thousand shards…

“Mr. Obama has revived the worst impressions of the Democratic party – profligate and undisciplined, arrogant, lovers of big government, increasers of taxes. The issues and narrative for American politics in the foreseeable future has been set — limited government versus exploding government, capitalism versus European style socialism, responsible and measured policies versus reckless and radical ones.”

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“In his special healthcare address to Congress in September, he said, ‘I am not the first president to take up [the cause of healthcare reform], but I am determined to be the last.’ Those were just words, and everyone, including Obama, knew it. Indeed, the only grounds for supporting the bill, according to progressives, is that it is a ‘first step’ or a ‘starter house’ that they’ll build on for years, even generations, to come. In other words, the healthcare debate is not only not going to end, it’s going to get uglier for as far as the eye can see.

“But here’s the point: Obama’s rhetorical audacity breeds cynicism, because utopianism always comes up short. Obama has many victories ahead of him, but his cause is already lost.”

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“President Barack Obama said Monday that Congress should approve a final healthcare bill even if it doesn’t include a public option…

“‘But this is an area that has just become symbolic of a lot of ideological fights. As a practical matter, this is not the most important aspect to this bill — the House bill or the Senate bill.’…

“‘But either way, whether there’s a public option in there or not, if you don’t have health insurance, you are going to have now the option of getting it at a reasonable cost,’ Obama said. ‘And that’s the most important thing.’”

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John McCain created this mess.

bloggless on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

There you go, people.
Didn’t like the Republicans? Want to vote Democrats in? Own it!

Lanceman on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

“You lie!”

SouthernGent on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

John McCain created this mess.

bloggless on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Actually, Olympia Snowe’s lone vote in committee allowed this to happen. Let’s blame the correct RINO, please.

SouthernGent on December 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM

“The lack of transparency in this process has been unprecedented and bordering on criminal.”

I guess you missed it on C-SPAN

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on December 22, 2009 at 10:50 PM

“Man, do I look good up here or what…..the homeys are gonna freak when they see this……Lady Botox and Court Jester Joe….top of the world am I….”

BobMbx on December 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

I still can’t believe he made that speech. It was so naive, he was so ignorant of “profit” and “overhead,” so “true believer.” He didn’t sound like a president, he sounded like a Jr. High kid writing about how he would “make America better for everyone.”

It was both embarrassing and horrifying to watch a man with that much power over my country speak so sincerely about something which he obviously didn’t understand.

That, or he was lying.

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

“‘But either way, whether there’s a public option in there or not, if you don’t have health insurance, you are going to have now the option of getting it at a reasonable cost,’ Obama said. ‘And that’s the most important thing.’”

Sanctimonious prick.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

There you go, people.
Didn’t like the Republicans? Want to vote Democrats in? Own it!

Lanceman on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Obvious troll is obvious.

fossten on December 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

“President Obama may succeed in passing a terribly unpopular piece of legislation – but in the process, he has shattered his carefully cultivated image. It now consists of a thousand shards…

Bumpty Odumpty acts as a total partisan with no tempered judgment at all
Bumpty Odumpty is having a great fall
And all the tyrants Rahm weasels and all the tyrants Axelrod con men
Won’t ever be able to put Bumpty Odumpty’s mask back on again

MB4 on December 22, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Obama has many victories ahead of him

No! What makes them think he’ll be anymore better at achieving anything else? If he bungled his image with his cornerstone legislation, he’s inept.

This notion should not be a default assumtion, cause I assure you those who would welcome the end of America don’t think of Obama of having a “many victories ahead of him” they already know he’s weak.

Sharr on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

40 Republicans. 40 votes against Obamacare. 60 Democrats. 60 votes for Obamacare. Can we put to bed the lunacy about Republicans and Democrats being no different?

pearson on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

On the plus side, my healthcare ETF is up.

Chuck Schick on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

John McCain created this mess.

bloggless on December 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

No, he did not. A lot of people are responsible for this, but not McCain.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Actually, Olympia Snowe’s lone vote in committee allowed this to happen. Let’s blame the correct RINO, please.

SouthernGent on December 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Yep. And if The Great White RINO was president right now, no one would even be talking about universal health care.

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

I still can’t believe he made that speech. It was so naive, he was so ignorant of “profit” and “overhead,” so “true believer.” He didn’t sound like a president, he sounded like a Jr. High kid writing about how he would “make America better for everyone could help the President.”

BobMbx on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

40 Republicans. 40 votes against Obamacare. 60 Democrats. 60 votes for Obamacare. Can we put to bed the lunacy about Republicans and Democrats being no different?

pearson on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

I would think so, but it amazes me how many people can still either say there is no difference, or blame the GOP outright as if they were the ones who thought up this lunacy.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:57 PM

The issues and narrative for American politics in the foreseeable future has been set — limited government versus exploding government, capitalism versus European style socialism, responsible and measured policies versus reckless and radical ones.

Now if we can translate this into “what’s in it for me” we’ll have a start.

r keller on December 22, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Hey, guys, Faustian just called me a troll!
I’ve been called everything in the book, now.

Lanceman on December 22, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Lame duck.

John the Libertarian on December 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I would think so, but it amazes me how many people can still either say there is no difference, or blame the GOP outright as if they were the ones who thought up this lunacy.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Yep, but people voted for Perot, complained about Clinton for four years and then voted for Perot again. So I’m all amazed-out when it comes to some people’s stupidity.

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I couldn’t help myself. It was the way he said “Giant suckin’ sound.” ;)

Lanceman on December 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM

The spanking the Guv of Nebraska gave Nelson on Greta should be YouTubed and posted here. He states he is STILL talking to this turncoat and relaying the fury of Nebraskans. It was an outstanding interview session and gave me a glimmer of hope – what could happen in 24 hours. Please Lord.

Marcus on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

The issues and narrative for American politics in the foreseeable future has been set — limited government versus exploding government, capitalism versus European style socialism, responsible and measured policies versus reckless and radical ones.

“…when the wolf rises in the heart.”

—Theodore Roosevelt

Horatius on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Obama’s salute to U.S. America

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Obama has many victories ahead of him

The freedom and liberty of America’s past
He wants buried in darkness and shadows cast
Erased through all eternity
No more hope for humanity

MB4 on December 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Idea for the GOP next State of the Union….

When the Caliph starts talking all the Whigs all stand up and say….”YOU SIT ON A THRONE OF LIES”.

Apologies to Will Ferrell the Elf.

PappyD61 on December 22, 2009 at 11:06 PM

No, he did not. A lot of people are responsible for this, but not McCain.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Consider the man’s hubris at running when he could intuit that he didn’t have a shot.

TinMan13 on December 22, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Yep. And if The Great White RINO was president right now, no one would even be talking about universal health care.

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

BUT, Amnesty, and Cap and Trade would be probably be law… and Copenhagen probably would have worked out better for the lefties.

El_Terrible on December 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM

utopianism always comes up short

Indeed, and the attempt often leads to totalitarianism.

kc8ukw on December 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM

BUT, Amnesty, and Cap and Trade would be probably be law… and Copenhagen probably would have worked out better for the lefties.

El_Terrible on December 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM

I’m filing your comment right next to “BUT, if we hadn’t passed the Stimulus Package….”

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every step you take
Obama wants to be controlling you

Every single day
Every word you say
Every night you stay
Obama wants to be controlling you

Oh, cant you see
He wants you to belong to the sheeple collective Obama we
To control all your life how his heart does ache
With every step you take

Every move you make
Every dollar you make
Every claim you stake
Obama wants to be controlling you

MB4 on December 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Purple-lipped liar with his purple prose.

EMD on December 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM

utopianism always comes up short

Indeed, and the attempt often leads to totalitarianism.

kc8ukw on December 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM

There is nothing more dangerous than a philosopher who wants to change the world.
- Piero Scaruffi

MB4 on December 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Governor Palin on Facebook just now: BOOM! Taste my nightstick.

Midnight Votes, Backroom Deals, and a Death Panel

Last weekend while you were preparing for the holidays with your family, Harry Reid’s Senate was making shady backroom deals to ram through the Democrat health care take-over. The Senate ended debate on this bill without even reading it. That and midnight weekend votes seem to be standard operating procedures in D.C. No one is certain of what’s in the bill, but Senator Jim DeMint spotted one shocking revelation regarding the section in the bill describing the Independent Medicare Advisory Board (now called the Independent Payment Advisory Board), which is a panel of bureaucrats charged with cutting health care costs on the backs of patients – also known as rationing. Apparently Reid and friends have changed the rules of the Senate so that the section of the bill dealing with this board can’t be repealed or amended without a 2/3 supermajority vote. Senator DeMint said:

“This is a rule change. It’s a pretty big deal. We will be passing a new law and at the same time creating a senate rule that makes it out of order to amend or even repeal the law. I’m not even sure that it’s constitutional, but if it is, it most certainly is a senate rule. I don’t see why the majority party wouldn’t put this in every bill. If you like your law, you most certainly would want it to have force for future senates. I mean, we want to bind future congresses. This goes to the fundamental purpose of senate rules: to prevent a tyrannical majority from trampling the rights of the minority or of future congresses.”

In other words, Democrats are protecting this rationing “death panel” from future change with a procedural hurdle. You have to ask why they’re so concerned about protecting this particular provision. Could it be because bureaucratic rationing is one important way Democrats want to “bend the cost curve” and keep health care spending down?

The Congressional Budget Office seems to think that such rationing has something to do with cost. In a letter to Harry Reid last week, CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf noted (with a number of caveats) that the bill’s calculations call for a reduction in Medicare’s spending rate by about 2 percent in the next two decades, but then he writes the kicker:

“It is unclear whether such a reduction in the growth rate could be achieved, and if so, whether it would be accomplished through greater efficiencies in the delivery of health care or would reduce access to care or diminish the quality of care.”

Though Nancy Pelosi and friends have tried to call “death panels” the “lie of the year,” this type of rationing – what the CBO calls “reduc[ed] access to care” and “diminish[ed] quality of care” – is precisely what I meant when I used that metaphor.

This health care bill is one of the most far-reaching and expensive expansions of the role of government into our lives. We’re talking about putting one-seventh of our economy under the government’s thumb. We’re also talking about something as intimate to our personal well-being as medical care.

This bill is so unpopular that people on the right and the left hate it. So why go through with it? The Senate is planning to vote on this on Christmas Eve. Why the rush? Though we will begin paying for this bill immediately, we will see no benefits for years. (That’s the trick that allowed the CBO to state that the bill won’t grow the deficit for the next ten years.)

The administration’s promises of transparency and bipartisanship have been broken one by one. This entire process has been defined by midnight votes on weekends, closed-door meetings with industry lobbyists, and payoffs to politicians willing to sell their principles for sweetheart deals. Is it any wonder that Americans are so disillusioned with their leaders in Washington?

This is about politics, not health care. Americans don’t want this bill. Americans don’t like this bill. Washington has stopped listening to us. But we’re paying attention, and 2010 is coming.

Enoxo on December 22, 2009 at 11:27 PM

I’m filing your comment right next to “BUT, if we hadn’t passed the Stimulus Package….”

29Victor on December 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM

lol. But if we hadn’t passed the stimulus package experts claim that unemployment would have been above 12%. We were lucky we passed it when we did. Should I start adding sarc tags?

El_Terrible on December 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM

OT, but should be noted:

From AP (Mexico City) via Yahoo -
Slaying of drug war hero’s family shocks Mexico

Short version – Melquisedet Angulo was a Mexican Marine who died during a raid, which killed drug lord Arturo Beltran Leyva, also known as the “Boss of Bosses.” Hours after his funeral service today, “unknown assailants” killed Melquisedet Angulo’s mother, aunt and brother. His sister is in critical condition at a local hospital. Apparently the message was, “You go after us, we wipe out your families.”

You can click and read the rest. Sorry if I’ve ruined your pre-Christmas reading. But this seems beyond the pale even for Mexico. For what it’s worth, Calderon’s response -

Calderon called the attack “a cowardly act” and vowed to press forward in his war involving more than 45,000 troops.

“We will not be intimidated by criminals without scruples like those who committed this barbarity,” he said Tuesday. “Those who act like this deserve the unanimous repudiation of society and they must pay for their crime.”

Suihei Deloi on December 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM

No, he did not. A lot of people are responsible for this, but not McCain.

Terrye on December 22, 2009 at 10:56 PM

McCain and all of his “our tent is big enough for everyone except for conservatives” cronies and advisors should choke on this thing because, yes, they are as much to blame as the democrats. And a lot of us will never forget it. He will find that out when he and his valet, Lindsey Graham, come down to stump for Crist.

JeffinOrlando on December 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM

The spanking the Guv of Nebraska gave Nelson on Greta should be YouTubed and posted here. He states he is STILL talking to this turncoat and relaying the fury of Nebraskans. It was an outstanding interview session and gave me a glimmer of hope – what could happen in 24 hours. Please Lord.

Marcus on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Amen. We are blessed to have a calm and sensible governor.

OmahaConservative on December 22, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Hope and optimism springs eternal in a new year. Thanks to the radical liberal’s egregious and over-achieving agenda, they have, (again) slipped the noose around their political necks. This IS still a center right nation, even while it’s currently financially upside-down. And the left will learn what conservatives have (hopefully) learned……..elections have consequences.

The political winds are blowing. With the Democrats ignoring the will of the people, their arrogance will send them backwards another two election cycles. And the conservative platform couldn’t be more simple—put big government back in its place and seriously become the fiscal stewards of a nation that yearns for spending sanity.

Rovin on December 22, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

They’ve got a hilarious little troll on that page. I took a jab at him to see if he’d overreact.

John the Libertarian on December 22, 2009 at 11:50 PM

Which health care address to the nation was the video from?

BKeyser on December 22, 2009 at 11:53 PM

New York Times (12-22-09):

“officials now believe that they are unlikely to close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and transfer its population of terrorism suspects until 2011 at the earliest — a far slower timeline for achieving one of President Obama’s signature national security policies than they had previously hinted.”

Enoxo on December 22, 2009 at 11:56 PM

The spanking the Guv of Nebraska gave Nelson on Greta should be YouTubed and posted here. He states he is STILL talking to this turncoat and relaying the fury of Nebraskans. It was an outstanding interview session and gave me a glimmer of hope – what could happen in 24 hours. Please Lord.

Marcus on December 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Video is here.

Hawkins1701 on December 23, 2009 at 12:00 AM

if you don’t have health insurance, you are going to have now the option of getting it at a reasonable cost,’ Obama said. ‘And that’s the most important thing.’”

This guy sounds like he’d be a great health insurance agent. Which company does he represent?

What?! That’s the PRESIDENT of the US? No way. Aren’t there nuclear weapons or terrorists somewhere? Why is he so busy selling health insurance. I’ve been doing it for 15 years and believe me, it ain’t sexy at all.

Maybe we should trade. Since he’s so concerned with how much people pay for insurance(not that he’s actually helped or talked with a single person toward a solution to their problem), I’ll be president so he can help people save money on health insurance.

ThackerAgency on December 23, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Amen. We are blessed to have a calm and sensible governor.

OmahaConservative on December 22, 2009 at 11:43 PM

After seeing the interview and re-watching (thanks Hawkins) I don’t see how this man could now say he doesn’t WANT the money unless he has seriously reconsidered his stance after the tsunami of pressure from his home state. How he could attend town halls and claim opposition and then crawl back home like a prostitute with a STD is beyond me. Have you no shame, sir?

Marcus on December 23, 2009 at 12:15 AM

John the Libertarian on December 22, 2009 at 11:50 PM

after 17 days, you may not want to hold your breath for a reply.

disillusioned on December 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM

Americans don’t want this bill. Americans don’t like this bill. Washington has stopped listening to us. But we’re paying attention, and 2010 is coming.

- Sarah Palin

publiuspen on December 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM

“‘But either way, whether there’s a public option in there or not, if you don’t have health insurance, you are going to have now the option of getting it at a reasonable cost…or go to jail if you don’t.

emphasis obvious.

DrAllecon on December 23, 2009 at 12:42 AM

We still don’t know exactly what’s in the health care bill.

We just know a lot of senators got a lot of tax payer money.

For Christmas, we’re going to be handed a battery operated device and told to insert into an orifice, or else suffer the penalty of law.

Oh, and publiuspen, think 2012

Kini on December 23, 2009 at 12:48 AM

disillusioned on December 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM

Hmph. Assumed it was fresh. Still holding my breath, though.

John the Libertarian on December 23, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Maybe AP was the troll last time around.

Connie on December 23, 2009 at 1:22 AM

The issues and narrative for American politics in the foreseeable future has been set — limited government versus exploding government, capitalism versus European style socialism, responsible and measured policies versus reckless and radical ones.”

Yeah, the Republicans are for limited government and responsible spending and policies… look what they did when they had a majority a mere 3-9 years ago.

Oh, wait; don’t look at that. Pay no attention to the medicare drug plan, McCain-Feingold and burgeoning deficit spending on discretionary budget items behind the curtain?

The Dems are worse; but that isn’t a rallying cry. It’s a bit too early to pretend that the Republicans aren’t for spending huge amounts of money they don’t have. Sure it’s only 300-400 billion instead of a trillion; but some people even consider that pittance real money. Unless they’re bribing Dem Senators to get some votes in line.

If the Republicans actually governed the way they claim they will now we wouldn’t have Obama and a Dem controlled Congress would we?

Sorry, it’s just when we’re all sunshine and roses here it might be worth mentioning why we’re having to stage a comeback in the first place. A lot of the Republicans in office now aren’t exactly the most trustworthy ones to hold the banner of limited government and fiscal responsibility.

gekkobear on December 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM

gekkobear on December 23, 2009 at 1:38 AM

Good argument for term limits

Kini on December 23, 2009 at 1:50 AM

It is heartbreaking watching Obama. I cannot believe that the people of this country sold us down the river to such a tinpot wannabe. I cannot believe the ignorance of the people who watched him during the campaign and fell for this sorry excuse for an American, much less the president of the great country. He is the epitome of what is wrong with our world and society. I am sad that my children will be left with this legacy because of the children of hippies who thought they were so smart and enlightened and elected this piece of trash.

TXMomof3 on December 23, 2009 at 1:52 AM

Healthcare. The new Abortion.

fitzsweetpea on December 23, 2009 at 1:56 AM

Isn’t ironic that the Global Warming Kooks think that people are responsible for Climate Change.

Isn’t ironic that Population Control Kooks think that people are using too many of the Earth’s resources.

Isn’t ironic that the Planned Parenthood Kooks think that abortion is somehow planning parenthood. You can’t be a parent without children, yes?

What do these groups have in common? Could it be, DEATH?

Now imagine Sarah Palin’s death panels and you’ve got a health care bill.

Merry Christmas…. the season of life and giving is now the season of death and taxation.

I want a tax strike.

Kini on December 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM

Merry Christmas…. the season of life and giving is now the season of death and taxation.

I want a tax strike.

Kini on December 23, 2009 at 2:11 AM

+1

TXMomof3 on December 23, 2009 at 2:13 AM

Merry Christmas from Harry Reid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JJnfrvaKgk

macncheez on December 23, 2009 at 2:36 AM

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

Read that again. then read it once more. And read it again. Would you today sign your name to that document?

unseen on December 23, 2009 at 3:07 AM

In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.

unseen on December 23, 2009 at 3:10 AM

Dumbo ears.

tbear44 on December 23, 2009 at 3:14 AM

So Obowma demands us to pay for babies to be murdered by this tax plan aka the healthcare bill while he frowns against killing terrorists and gives them their day in court?

Do these aborted children get their say, “free choice” right?

Obowma will be judged for these actions before God.

dthorny on December 23, 2009 at 3:29 AM

Read that again. then read it once more. And read it again. Would you today sign your name to that document?

unseen on December 23, 2009 at 3:07 AM

YES!

WesternActor on December 23, 2009 at 4:13 AM

40 Republicans. 40 votes against Obamacare. 60 Democrats. 60 votes for Obamacare. Can we put to bed the lunacy about Republicans and Democrats being no different?

pearson on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

But in Porkulus apparently 40% of the earmarks were by Republicans.

And, as someone pointed out don’t forget about Snowe…and Collins…and Specter and their selling out in Porkulus. And then Snowe again when Obamacare was before the Senate Finance Committee.

To their credit, all of the House Republicans did vote “no” against the stimulus bill last January.

So, no, not all of the Republicans can be accused of being Dem lites but as a group they aren’t really getting the word out there as to what they do stand for. For one thing, saying they want to have a hand in the Obamacare monstrosity but can’t isn’t endearing to me. They’ve buckled to the (rather successful) “party of no” propaganda that the Alinskyites came up with.

They shouldn’t be discussing anything other than getting the government’s mitts off of health care and ending Federal restrictions that guarantees health insurance monopolies in states and regions.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 23, 2009 at 4:43 AM

Kini on December 23, 2009 at 1:50 AM

I appreciate your points, but the system is set up so a tax strike is impossible, and term limits are not the answer–repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments is the answer. If people understood how our system was originally designed, and why, they would understand how these two amendments have led to this disastrous mess.

DrMagnolias on December 23, 2009 at 5:11 AM

40 Republicans. 40 votes against Obamacare. 60 Democrats. 60 votes for Obamacare. Can we put to bed the lunacy about Republicans and Democrats being no different?

pearson on December 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM

WHEN YOU OWN BOTH HORSES IN THE RACE. DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHICH ONE WINS

donabernathy on December 23, 2009 at 6:41 AM

WHEN YOU OWN BOTH HORSES IN THE RACE. DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHICH ONE WINS

donabernathy on December 23, 2009 at 6:41 AM

It depends on the point spread…

doriangrey on December 23, 2009 at 6:58 AM

There’s no difference
To choose between the two parties.
So why vote at all?

Haiku Guy on December 23, 2009 at 7:05 AM

There’s no difference
To choose between the two parties.
So why vote at all?

Haiku Guy on December 23, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Well, there are a few differences. At least the Republican party hasn’t made a pact with Satan to destroy freedom and liberty while killing off as many babies and old folks as possible in the process.

Plus, I’d rather not have to refer to fellow Americans as “comrades” in the future.

darwin on December 23, 2009 at 7:38 AM

Brass on December 23, 2009 at 1:41 AM

Nebraskans love our Governor!!!!!!Look for Governor Heineman to be the next Nebraska Senator in 2012.

yoda on December 23, 2009 at 7:40 AM

Nebraskans love our Governor!!!!!!Look for Governor Heineman to be the next Nebraska Senator in 2012.

yoda on December 23, 2009 at 7:40 AM

I grew up in the Nebraska panhandle over 70 years ago and I know, respect and share the values held by the people of Nebraska. If Heineman runs he can expect my contribution.

rplat on December 23, 2009 at 7:47 AM

This is like a really bad episode of ‘Punked’ where’s Ashton. Tell us this ain’t real Ashton!

shov74 on December 23, 2009 at 7:49 AM

The GOP should be asking this question every time a camera comes near:

Do you hold your Senate or House votes in the middle of the night on weekends if the bill you’re voting on is something to be proud of?

VelvetElvis on December 23, 2009 at 8:07 AM

McCain has got to be kidding. We knew this a year ago and he wouldn’t talk about Obama in any kind of a derogatory way. It is his fault.

ctmom on December 23, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Did he just give us the middle finger salute?

Kissmygrits on December 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM

There’s no difference
To choose between the two parties.
So why vote at all?
Haiku Guy on December 23, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Well, there are a few differences. At least the Republican party hasn’t made a pact with Satan to destroy freedom and liberty while killing off as many babies and old folks as possible in the process.
Plus, I’d rather not have to refer to fellow Americans as “comrades” in the future.
darwin on December 23, 2009 at 7:38 AM

Such little details.
But, other than that, they are
Pretty much the same.

justltl on December 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

oh puuuuleze, he promised the P.O. on the OFA website and in video over and over…..

not fer nuthin’ but the Neoprogs used the GOP CDS to rile up the Obot youts with their Clinton lied, blah blah blah BS

Big Dawgs BJ did not affect my life AT ALL, THIS sell out THIS POS mandated tax monster WILL affect ALL OUR LIVES

I will take my Big Dawg every day of the week over this lying crony corporatist who socializes losses and privatizes profits

just sayin, what a TOOL

Maybe Franken can go introduce himself to a guy who really represents lies and the lying liars who tell them..Barack Obama.

ginaswo on December 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Now we have two gecko’s selling insurance on TV!

Cybergeezer on December 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM

McCain has got to be kidding. We knew this a year ago and he wouldn’t talk about Obama in any kind of a derogatory way. It is his fault.

ctmom on December 23, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Exactly right, ctmom.

There were so many opportunities and so much material available for McCain and the Republican party to come out swinging, but they wouldn’t do it. McCain played the “gentleman” in the campaign. Look where that got us.

GrannyDee on December 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM