Quinnipiac: Americans oppose ObamaCare abortion funding 3-1

posted at 12:55 pm on December 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

A new poll by Quinnipiac shows public opinion hardening on ObamaCare as Harry Reid attempts to push it through to its Senate conclusion.  Overall, American voters oppose ObamaCare 53%-36%, but the issue of funding abortion through public funds is even more conclusive.  By a margin of 72%-23%, voters disapprove of using federal funds to provide abortions or abortion coverage.  The controversy hurts Barack Obama’s job-approval numbers, but it’s not the only issue impacting them:

As the Senate prepares to vote on health care reform, American voters “mostly disapprove” of the plan 53 – 36 percent and disapprove 56 – 38 percent of President Barack Obama’s handling of the health care issue, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Voters also oppose 72 – 23 percent using any public money in the health care overhaul to pay for abortions, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

American voters also disapprove 51 – 44 percent of President Obama’s handling of the economy and disapprove 56 – 37 percent of the way he is creating jobs. But voters favor 52 – 42 percent his plan to use $200 billion left over from the bank bailout for a new stimulus package to create jobs rather than to reduce the budget deficit.

Only 31 percent of voters say Obama’s policies will help their personal financial situation, while 37 percent say his policies will hurt and 30 percent say his policies will make no difference. Among voters in households where someone has lost a job in the last year, 37 percent say Obama policies will help them personally, while 37 percent say they will hurt.

Yesterday, Obama tried turning himself into a deficit hawk, but the Q-poll shows a great deal of skepticism in that regard.  An overwhelming majority, 72%, don’t believe Obama when he says that his health-care overhaul will reduce the deficit.  Fifty-six percent of voters oppose moving forward with it if it doesn’t reduce deficit spending.

Obama has been selling this as a critical component of deficit reduction, and it looks like he got the worst of both worlds: he sold people on that necessity while failing to convince them he meant it.

Meanwhile, his overall approval numbers on health care held steady from the last poll, which is not a good thing.  He only manages a meager 38% approval rating on what’s supposed to be his signature domestic agenda item.  The erosion of support on health care has begun helping Republicans, however.  The gap between Obama and Republicans in Congress for public trust on health-care reform have narrowed to 45% Obama, 40% Republicans.  The GOP have picked up seven points since this summer, while Obama has lost eight.  He still beats the GOP, but only just outside the margin of error.

On abortion coverage, the poll shows Obama, Kathleen Sebelius, and Congressional Democrats far outside the mainstream of American thought.  In one demographic, 54% of voters oppose the use of federal funds to pay for abortions or abortion coverage.  That demographic?  Democrats. That number rises to 74% among independents.  In only one age, income, or political demographic does opposition drop below a majority — with self-professed liberals, of whom 46% still oppose public funding of abortions.  In every other demographic, opposition is consistently above 60%.

The conclusion is easy to reach: ObamaCare has no great support and will become an albatross around the neck of Democrats, especially as more of its components become known.  They would do themselves the greatest favor by killing the bill and starting from scratch.


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Firsties!

rollthedice on December 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Americans oppose ObamaCare abortion funding 3-1

Is that all? I would expect it to be higher.

OmahaConservative on December 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM

An overwhelming majority, 72%, don’t believe Obama

I am so glad America is starting to wake up. Almost a YEAR after they elected this idiot in.

They would do themselves the greatest favor by killing the bill and starting from scratch.

Ed, just have them kill the bill. And NOT start from scratch!!!

upinak on December 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM

“The 5 year old turned the crayons over to his 2 year old sibling.”

-Gibbs

Bishop on December 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Who cares what the people think!

We’re the National Socialist Democrat Party and we know what’s best for everyone!

/sarc

Insert witty screen name here on December 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Bart Stupak was just on Fox and now it sounds like abortion is not the only issue that may tank this bill. Or are they all going to line up for more Christmas goodies for their states?

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

And this is “Government of the People by the People and for the People”? What a bunch of BS that statement is.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Bart Stupak was just on Fox and now it sounds like abortion is not the only issue that may tank this bill. Or are they all going to line up for more Christmas goodies for their states?

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

These leftist clowns march in lock step . . . nothing with change the final outcome of this bill.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I honestly think the bill is DOA. There are too many people starting to question what Reid had to pay out to get his 60 votes. Oh that and people are starting to notice that 1am votes mean something bad generally.

Johnnyreb on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Yesterday, Obama tried turning himself into a deficit hawk, but the Q-poll shows a great deal of skepticism in that regard.  An overwhelming majority, 72%, don’t believe Obama when he says that his health-care overhaul will reduce the deficit. 

Translation: 72% say YOU LIE!!

Insert witty screen name here on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Hey Dems… what was that about “Running on Obamacare”? See how long you all last…..

Razgriez on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

These leftist clowns march in lock step . . . nothing with change the final outcome of this bill.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Conservative Democrat = Higher Price.

Pass it on.

fiatboomer on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Come-on we nee to get the bill done so we can start our vacations.

Maybe we will see BO on the beach without a shirt on this Christmas.

He’s so FREAKIN’DREAMEY!

SayNo2-O on December 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Move right along please…wait what’s that in the ditch…oh it’s ubuhma and his man wife…they’ve fallen and can’t get up…

winston on December 22, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Bart Stupak was just on Fox and now it sounds like abortion is not the only issue that may tank this bill. Or are they all going to line up for more Christmas goodies for their states?

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Goodies. And they’ll get them.

TXUS on December 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Not that it matters to these fascists.

CurtZHP on December 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I honestly think the bill is DOA. There are too many people starting to question what Reid had to pay out to get his 60 votes. Oh that and people are starting to notice that 1am votes mean something bad generally.

Johnnyreb on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

I think you’re right. Dingy Harry can’t lock up his minions forever, they will eventually go home for Christmas and the poop is really going to hit the fan.

My prediction……whole new ballgame after the first of the year. There is still hope and Ben Nelson may have given us a bigger Christmas present than we realize.

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Is that all? I would expect it to be higher.

OmahaConservative on December 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM

The other seven were aborted decades ago.

Fletch54 on December 22, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Goodies. And they’ll get them.

TXUS on December 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM

On another thread, Enoxo noted that if they go to conference committee, they cannot add anything. All they negotiate is what is in the two bills (not that Harry has been obeying rules lately, of course).

So do they go back and start over, denying Obama his SOTU gloat, or do they tack on the goodies to other, unrelated bills?

Wethal on December 22, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Conservative Democrat = Higher Price.
Pass it on.
fiatboomer on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Yup, In the end they’re just Spitzer class hookers instead of streetwalkers.

Insert witty screen name here on December 22, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Obama has a habit of doubling down on the stupid. One the man makes a decision, nothing will change his mind. He is so vain he won’t admit to being wrong on anything.

Remember during the campaign he was asked if he changed his mind about opposing the surge in Iraq now that we had pretty much won? He said he would still oppose it, even knowing that it would work.

He also got asked why he would raise taxes on the rich even though it is proven that doing so will ultimatly lead to LESS tax revenue for the government. He said he would still raise them because it’s not about raising revenue, “it’s about fairness”.

This bill will get passed somehow, I can feel it. Obama will sign the bill and spend the rest of his political life blaming everyone else for what will happen.

Mord on December 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Nullification!!!

Push back the federal government. Put it back in its Constitutional bottle.

DerKrieger on December 22, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Own it liberals.

Badger40 on December 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Bart Stupak was just on Fox and now it sounds like abortion is not the only issue that may tank this bill. Or are they all going to line up for more Christmas goodies for their states?

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I’ve said for a while now that reconciling the bill between the two bodies is going to be very difficult, and very painful for the liberals. It has potential to stall, if not die, in conference committee because the House wants things the Senate will not vote for, and the Senate wants things the House will not vote for.

That’s not to say we should give up, or stop fighting to kill it ourselves. It’s just not over on Christmas Eve.

And no, there are no more goodies. My understanding is that they cannot add anything new to the bill that isn’t already in the Senate or House version. So if they did not secure any bribes already, they’re hosed unless they accept a “future” promise (and if they do, they’e stupid).

Enoxo on December 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM

There are too many people starting to question what Reid had to pay out to get his 60 votes. Oh that and people are starting to notice that 1am votes mean something bad generally.

Johnnyreb on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

I sure would like to think that people are paying attention, but I really don’t think they are to any great extent. Darthbama and his gang will have the bleeding over with by the State of the Union address, and they’ll have 9 or 10 months to pander as necessary to shore up support.

Hate to be so bleak, but I think it’s going to take a lot more effort on our part to undo this than most conservatives are willing to exert.

Scott P on December 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM

and they think passing this will make their poll numbers soar?

Monica on December 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM

If something good emerges from Obama’s 4 years as POTUS and from a Leftist Democrat controlled Congress it will be that the Left is being exposed for the socialists that they are and that more and more Americans re rereading and reading the Constitution and the writings of the Founders. Every time I listen to talk radio a caller says “I’ve never been politically active before but…”

Conservatives are by our very nature…conservative, we tend to not get involved in politics and instead focus on our own lives. Having done this for generations we’ve left the field of battle wide open for the Left to have taken over all public institutions and our culture. “The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.” We were not vigilant.

I hope and pray that Americans will now be vigilant.

DerKrieger on December 22, 2009 at 1:20 PM

If the suckers didn’t get anything in this bill, you know dog gone well that the next few bills will be loaded with more bribes for this disaster. Something will pass.

Brat4life on December 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Firsties!
rollthedice on December 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM

that was a bad post, and you should feel bad.

I want to know what congress’ approval is after the dead of night cloture vote.

liquidflorian on December 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I sure would like to think that people are paying attention, but I really don’t think they are to any great extent. Darthbama and his gang will have the bleeding over with by the State of the Union address, and they’ll have 9 or 10 months to pander as necessary to shore up support.

Hate to be so bleak, but I think it’s going to take a lot more effort on our part to undo this than most conservatives are willing to exert.

Scott P on December 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Yes I too have this recurring vision of the enslaved, mindless masses simply returning to the mud pits to stomp more straw.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM

In my local paper American Pravda’s National Title on the underhanded, middle of the night, corrupt payoffs:

“Dealmaking life blood of health care bill”

I. SHIT. YOU. NOT.

The media is 110% in the tank for this boondoogle to even up with the us.

jukin on December 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM

“Obama the deficit hawk.” That’s rich. Obama is a bumbling doctrinaire leftist whose only apparent skills so far are (1) embarassing himself in front of foreign leaders and (2) spending mountains of taxpayer dollars on Dem pork. He’s never successfully managed anything in his life, but since his polls are collapsing, he’s now going to put his laser-like penlight-like intellect to work rooting out waste and inefficiency in government.

It’d be funny if the country wasn’t turning into a bankrupt socialist banana republic in the process.

Cicero43 on December 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Oh shit!!!

Just IXq’d this and every outlet has that headline. ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NYT,REUTERS,…

jukin on December 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Dems too busy developing Universal Healthcare legislation to notice American public doesn’t want it.

“It’s for the children….”

BobMbx on December 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM

has the msm seen these numbers yet?

still going to cover for dear leader??

cmsinaz on December 22, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Translation: 72% say YOU LIE!!

Insert witty screen name here on December 22, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Amen!

+100

cmsinaz on December 22, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Scott P on December 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Yes I too have this recurring vision of the enslaved, mindless masses simply returning to the mud pits to stomp more straw.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Ooh! There’s some lovely filth here!!!

Scott P on December 22, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Who cares what the people think!

We’re the National Socialist Democrat Party and we know what’s best for everyone!

/sarc

Insert witty screen name here on December 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM

FIFY.

That would have been true a year or so back but not now.

turfmann on December 22, 2009 at 1:31 PM

The conclusion is easy to reach: ObamaCare has no great support and will become an albatross around the neck of Democrats, especially as more of its components become known. They would do themselves the greatest favor by killing the bill and starting from scratch.

Not a chance!

As so many have stated the Dems could care less about the elections in 2010 and 2012. Unlike the idiot savant Repubs the Dems are thinking long term. This bill will effectively take over 16% of the US economy, now and forever. At some point in the not to distant future 40% of all Americans will work for state, local or the federal government. Central planning 101 will have been achieved.

If you doubt it Harry Reid knows this bill is going to cost him his Senate seat. I ask you, when has a Repub ever made the same sacrifice? While I loathe Dem policies I admire their backbones and discipline. Meanwhile the esteemed Repub leadership could not even turn one, just one Senator to switch sides. If the Repub position is so brilliant why hasn’t even one Senator switched? The current Repub leadership is pathetic.

Next year some sort of cap and trade and amnesty will be next.

patrick neid on December 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM

And this is “Government of the People by the People and for the People”? What a bunch of BS that statement is.

rplat on December 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I was just thinking that this is “Government of the People” by Those Who Think They Know What’s Best For Them.

ProfessorMiao on December 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Mandated reform!

theperfecteconomist on December 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM

jukin on December 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Good thing we have a ‘Free and Independent’ Press to accurately inform the American public on the abuse of power our elected officials are doing to change the very fabric of this Nation…

For a moment there, I was getting worried.

Seven Percent Solution on December 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Meanwhile the esteemed Repub leadership could not even turn one, just one Senator to switch sides. If the Repub position is so brilliant why hasn’t even one Senator switched? The current Repub leadership is pathetic.

patrick neid on December 22, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Because the minority Republicans don’t have the means to buy the votes of the spineless ones selling them?

ProfessorMiao on December 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM

While sometimes it may appear otherwise, there is a rationale for the Dhim’s obsessive fixation on Healthcare.

“Medicine is the keystone to Socialism”
Vladimir Lenin

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/the-progressive-span-and-the-bridge-to-healthcare-reform/

Not long back Carville intimated that the Dhim’s were now in position to maintain a “forty year dominance” over electoral politics. He was not counting on really winning elections, he was counting on obediance to party doctrine or risk being deprived of the means of sustenance. The formula of collectivists in every time and place they have attained power.

’08 was not a “Free & Fair” election…

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/barack%e2%80%99s-magical-mystery-tour/

… and ’10 & ’12 will only be more of the same, but worse. Collectivists only acheive power by claiming the will of the people, once! There after it is not an even passing consideration, think Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina, Laos, Beloruss….and on and on.

Without extra-ordinary vigilance in the next 2 election cycles, the fate of the Republic may already be sealed.

Archimedes on December 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM

My prediction……whole new ballgame after the first of the year. There is still hope and Ben Nelson may have given us a bigger Christmas present than we realize.

Knucklehead on December 22, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I don’t think so. It would be predicated on the donks acting on the wishes of their constituents after they get scorched in their local enviorments. This is a kamikaze operation and the goodies can come in the form of high salary jobs after they lose office or don’t run for re-election. I’m sure this entered into Nelson’s calculus.

a capella on December 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Reid/Pelosi slogan heard only inside their offices:

“Give the people what we want”.

BobMbx on December 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Maybe it’s time for a national strike as Rush’s caller was suggesting. Rush is talking about it now – not just small businesses.

How about a march on DC with the theme, YOU LIE!!

Withhold taxes, wait for the winter to pass and march on DC.

Cody1991 on December 22, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Michelle Bachmann just announced on Beck Radio:

This Bill on pgs. 240-249 has provisions set aside for ACORN.

UN freakin believable.

Geochelone on December 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Geochelone on December 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM

It does. Read it earlier, and I think that guy, Burris, supports it. Anyone thinking he wouldn’t hold out for a pay off?

Cody1991 on December 22, 2009 at 1:41 PM

At this point I’m thinking the ratio could be three hundred to one and it wouldn’t make a whit of difference.

Dark-Star on December 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM

UN freakin believable.

Geochelone on December 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM

you can thank burris for that…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM

So do they go back and start over, denying Obama his SOTU gloat, or do they tack on the goodies to other, unrelated bills?

Wethal on December 22, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Enoxo is right, if the bill goes to conference. If a conference committee is blocked, which takes only one Senator to do, then the House must vote on the Senate bill, but it can be amended. Then, it gets sent back to the Senate and it will require another cloture vote on the bill, as amended.

Now, I think it would be a smart play to block the conference, thus prolonging the process and opening up the opportunity for the Senate bill to be gummed up or amended in a way that Reid loses his 60 votes.

That said, Pelosi could block amendments and require a straight up and down vote on the Senate bill, thus sending it to Obama. But, she would run the risk of pissing off enough Ds that want changes who could defeat the bill.

The possibility of goodies being added to other bills exists, but as a practical matter a member wouldn’t want to rely on that given the uncertainty of any bill being able to pass.

TXUS on December 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The Marxists in control of D.C. have three battle cries!!

KILL THE UNBORN!!!!!

UNPLUG GRANNY!!!!!

BRING THIS SUCKA DOWN (Constitution, etc.)!!!!

George Soros is proud of you Lieberman/Nelson/McCain/McConnell, you did your Master just the way he paid you too.

PappyD61 on December 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

George Soros is proud of you Lieberman/Nelson/McCain/McConnell, you did your Master just the way he paid you too.

PappyD61 on December 22, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Knowing a bit about Soros I often wondered why he wanted to become a US citizen. As usual, I ignored the obvious.

Destroying the US is his biggest objective. Tampering with, and creating havoc with smaller countries was merely practice.

Bringing down the USA is this psychopath’s dream. He owns the Dem party, and Barry is his ultimate tool.

Cody1991 on December 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Seeing poll numbers such as we have the last several weeks, one wonders what the American people really thought they were voting for.

Oh well, as a friend at work said: We had to have Carter before we got Reagan. Keep up the good work Libs, and the GOP can return to power despite itself. Let’s hope they’ve learned something while in the political wilderness.

tgharris on December 22, 2009 at 2:03 PM

so what. Polls this and polls that…they Obamanots just keep ramming it down out throats. What can we do?????

screwauger on December 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Michelle Bachmann just announced on Beck Radio:

This Bill on pgs. 240-249 has provisions set aside for ACORN…..

Geochelone on December 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Michelle Bachmann just announced on Beck Radio:

This Bill on pgs. 240-249 has provisions set aside for ACORN…….

Geochelone on December 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Hey, somebody has to turn out the dogs and dead people next November.

tgharris on December 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM

“Do you work for us or do we work for you?”

d1carter on December 22, 2009 at 2:10 PM

OT but,……Oh joy!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c1a7aade-ee98-11de-944c-00144feab49a.html?nclick_check=1

Carbon trading prices collapse after the Hopehagen debacle. I’d bust a gut laughing if it were not for the next proverbial shoe to drop. The Big Boys, Goldman, Citi, JP Morgan and such are HEAVILY vested in the Carbon trading scheme. See Tiabbi’s Rolling Stone piece on same. This of course has the overt implications of yet another bailout.

The perversion of such a thing defies even recent outrages. Think about it. A capricious power grab by Gov’t (CO2 regulation) to finance the Bigs in their quest to launder organized crime cash (see inter-pol arrests this week in Euro Cap & Trade Scam) to perpetuate an artificial market built upon Fraudulent Science.

In essence the bigs invested seed money to engineer the greatest heist in history to rob us, the tax-payer. Now we will be expected to cover their losses lest “the entire financial system will collapse!”, their usual trope.

I can see this one coming already! How do you spell SUCKAH!</strong>

U-S-T-A-X-P-A-Y-E-R!

Archimedes on December 22, 2009 at 2:22 PM

“Obama the deficit hawk.” The ONLY way this could become true is if a hawk named ‘Deficit’ swoops down from the sky and eats him. The OPM force is strong with this one.

GnuBreed on December 22, 2009 at 2:26 PM

They would do themselves the greatest favor by killing the bill and starting from scratch.

They aren’t that smart.

GarandFan on December 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM

They would do themselves the greatest favor by killing the bill and starting from scratch.

Right and then they can run on their great stewardship of the economy, errrrrr ….

PackerBronco on December 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM

There are some serious issues with the bill, including taxation without benefits during a recession.

That simply is unheard of.

I don’t think that people want single-payer. I don’t think they also agree with the right wing on this, either.

I think most people are saying, “Say what?”

AnninCA on December 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM

By a margin of 72%-23%, voters disapprove of using federal funds to provide abortions or abortion coverage

–The question was about using federal funds to provide abortions. It didn’t mention abortion coverage.

Jimbo3 on December 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM

AnninCA on December 22, 2009 at 3:04 PM

I knew You would be trolling in this thread. Remember how much you try to spin or justify it . You did it . Live with it. Truly sickening.

CWforFreedom on December 22, 2009 at 5:22 PM

By a margin of 72%-23%, voters disapprove of using federal funds to provide abortions or abortion coverage.

America is not as crazy nor bloodthirsty as I thought. Ann is almost all alone.

CWforFreedom on December 22, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Inner party.

Outer party.

Proles.

Pretty simple to peg down the mentality of these Marxists.

In spite of all their arguments, I just can’t get this notion that it’s no big deal to kill an infant.

I also try to imagine the implications if it were a bunch of right wingers up there outlawing abortion nationwide.

What great hardships would arise from that? What disasters of epic, nay, Biblical Apocalyptic proportions would arise from women not being able to have their babies murdered at will?

Perhaps, those who want to play around would take precautions, say “no”, cross their legs…make better choices in the man department…

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 23, 2009 at 2:57 AM