Will people comply with health-insurance mandate?
posted at 12:15 pm on December 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Now that the Senate appears to be on its way to imposing the very first federal mandate in American history for residents to buy insurance, a number of questions will need to be answered. We’ve already done more exploration on the issue of constitutionality than Congress has bothered to do, but compliance and enforcement have not received enough attention. Enforcement will come through the IRS under the current plan, as the IRS is the single most knowledgeable federal agency on health-care issues and insurance coverage probity … nah, I’m just kidding. They’re the government agency with the best experience in kneecapping, which is why the Democrats decided to hand them even more power over our lives.
But what about compliance? Nick Gillespie points to an interesting argument offered by the Obama administration on this point, reported by USA Today, that says that a natural compunction to do what’s right will ensure compliance:
White House budget director Peter Orszag says penalty size isn’t the only factor in determining whether people buy coverage. He predicts the mandate will help create societal expectations that everyone gets health insurance, just as most people feel obligated to buckle their seat belts.
He points to Massachusetts, which in 2007 became the first state to require that most residents have insurance. Since then, the percentage of uninsured has declined to 4% from about 7%.
The Massachusetts penalty for failing to buy insurance this year is $1,068 — about half the cost of the lowest annual premium. About 96% of tax filers in the state in 2008 reported they had coverage; only 1% paid a penalty.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, which assesses the impact of legislation, says the number of people opting to pay the penalty instead of buying coverage would be “limited.”
Others aren’t so sanguine.
“Engineering social norms is hard,” says Jeffrey Munn, a principal with the consulting firm Hewitt in Washington. “We may need to temper our expectations around what an individual mandate can actually accomplish.”
A recent CBO report provides a few examples of Americans who don’t follow existing mandates:
- Most states have required seat belt use for about two decades, yet 18% of Americans still don’t buckle up.
- Schools have required children to get immunized for chickenpox since the 1990s, but 15% don’t get vaccinated.
- Nearly all states require drivers to buy car insurance, but 15% don’t comply.
Let’s put those numbers in perspective. At the moment, we have an uninsured rate of 13%, which includes illegal immigrants and millions who opt to pay cash rather than buy comprehensive coverage. Only about 14 million people don’t have insurance because of financial inability to pay (rather than a choice to use their money for other purposes). In other words, we already have better compliance on insurance without a mandate than we do on these existing mandates.
The people who don’t buy insurance do so because it costs more than it’s worth. That will still be true after the mandate passes. As Nick explains in his blog post at Reason, the penalties don’t really change that calculus much:
So what percentage of Americans won’t buy mandated insurance? It’s not clear, though it seems a no-brainer that if the penalty is only $95, many won’t, at least at first. And the non-compliants (a term with Philip K. Dickian resonance and one that I’m sure will become common parlance if and when the current miscarriage of health care reform passes) will be concentrated among the relatively young and healthy, precisely the demographic that the government wants to pull into the pool to lower costs and raise revenues. But that’s OK, because we have ways of making them work, right?
The mandates will both increase the participation in the pool of higher-risk patients and increase demand for services from providers. That will have the same effect nationally as we have seen in Massachusetts and Maine, which is to make insurance premiums much more costly, wait times for services lengthen, and eventually put providers and insurers out of business if they can’t raise prices to meet those conditions. Even with higher penalties imposed by the IRS, many of these non-compliants will still resist the notion of subsidizing cheaper prices for higher-risk people when they could handle their own costs without third-party payers.
Oh, and don’t forget the side benefit of making a vast new class of criminals out of people who only want to be responsible for their own costs, and not everyone else’s. We should be asking Congress why they want to sic the IRS on such people, rather than make it easier for everyone else to handle their medical care in the same efficient manner with some real reform based on eliminating third-party payers from the system altogether.










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I’ve been trying to drum up work as a freelance computer repairman for the past couple years. Cash only so far, but I’d gladly barter for room and board if such an arrangement could be made.
Dark-Star on December 21, 2009 at 1:23 PM
The more of these mandates, the less people will comply. Soon not only you will be taxed 50%, but the other 50% will be dicated to you on what you can spend.
They will Health Care a trojan horse to control all behavior. It’s revolution time.
Oil Can on December 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM
If they want to treat us like we’re Europeon’s we ott to start acting like Europeon’s and start shutting this country down.
heshtesh on December 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Seatbelts aren’t a mandate – you can choose not to wear them. You get a ticket but that’s your choice. I wore my seatbelt before it was law – it was my choice.
I will NOT take government single payer insurance. If my company drops me from private insurance I will not enroll in the government option.
Enough is enough.
gophergirl on December 21, 2009 at 1:29 PM
The 2010 and 2012 election will literally be the last chance for Americans to turn away from socialism. Americans either make huge changes in Congress and attempt to rescind ObamaCare or we’re screwed. Even 2010 isn’t enough, though. Obama would veto any changes to socialism. Republicans have to run a presidential candidate who says his first priority is to turn way from socialism. If the American people decide they like socialism, then that is it for us.
BillCarson on December 21, 2009 at 1:29 PM
You bet, the more premiums go up (and they will, dramatically), the greater number of caddilac plans. I suspect that is part of the backdoor plan.
Now of course, if you happen to be in a protected group (you know, reliable democrat voting union member) you wont have anything to worry about.
JusDreamin on December 21, 2009 at 1:31 PM
If this bill passes, it will become at that moment morally obligatory for every freedom-loving American to engage in civil disobedience against the Federal Government in as many ways as possible.
There are only two ways to oppose fascist tyranny, and the other way is a lot less pretty.
JDPerren on December 21, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I don’t think it’s valid to compare requiring auto insurance with requiring health insurance. I think a big part of requiring auto insurance is because you can cause harm/damage to others. That’s really not the case when it comes to your health.
GCM on December 21, 2009 at 1:32 PM
That last time a really unpopular law like this got passed also occurred during a time of massive unemployment. People openly disobeyed the law.
The libturds have no comprehension of what they have set in motion.
Live free or die!
dogsoldier on December 21, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Bill Ayers said that 25 million Americans would have to be killed to bring about their socialist utopia.
GnuBreed on December 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Simple math and logic will guide healthy 20 and 30 somethings that are in decent health.
Pay the ObamaCare fine, whatever the cost per year and in the event you get sick sign up for a plan since insurance companies cannot deny coverage for any pre existing condition.
Bingo!
Marginally employed women may choose to pick a plan when they get pregnant and keep the plan to take care of the kid.
Healthy males will not sign on for insurance until age 40 or so absent any chronic illness.
The fine will be another nuisance tax but will save the younger healthier set money in the long run.
FireBlogger on December 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Time for a little irrigation around the tree of liberty?
Oldnuke on December 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM
The chicken as in “Keep F*ckin That Chicken”
Old Hippie Vet on December 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Anyone know where I can join a group to overthrow the government?
m1aman on December 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM
“He said he would respect me in the morning.”
Speaking of numbers, three points.
This morning, I heard Dana Perrino point out that champions of Reidcare are claiming 30 million will be insured, though they admit that 24 million will remain uninsured. She asked, “How did the number that President Obama cite (30 million) increase to 54 million?” How did that happen.
Looking at this another way on Obama’s and Ed’s numbers, if Obama says that we have 30 million uninsured–and Reidcare leaves 24 million uninsured–why all of this to cover 6 million?
Looking at Obama’s and Ed’s numbers yet another way, if Obama says that we have 30 million uninsured–though we really have only 14 million involuntarily uninsured–does Reidcare really improve things for these 14 million and why do conservatives consistently allow Dems to channel the canard that Reidcare will “help” 30 million? Seems to me 16 million are involuntarily being helped.
BuckeyeSam on December 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM
What’s up with the picture of Ace that they are using?
Monkeytoe on December 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Fortunately for us the idiots that worship at his alter don’t believe in the second amendment so they’ll be bringing sticks to a gunfight. They won’t be allowed to use knives, might cut themselves.
Oldnuke on December 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM
LOL!
elduende on December 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Once the IRS is on your tail there is no hiding or salvation from their intrusive tactics. They are the one bill collector that doesn’t give up the chase.
We are stuck until 2010 mid terms when we shut up Obowma and his congressional henchmen once and for all.
This health scare tragedy is his one shot and I suspect the courts will hold up most of it. It’s downhill for him from here.
FireBlogger on December 21, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Sadly, when the IRS becomes the enforcement arm, you WILL take government single payer insurance. Just like you now pay your withholding tax from every paycheck. Or you can opt to fight them through the court system. That’s when we’ll determine how many people will (as the old cigarette commercial used to say) “fight rather than switch”.
oldleprechaun on December 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM
“Bill Ayers said that 25 million Americans would have to be killed to bring about their socialist utopia.”
That has always been the problem in the past.
The state has been too inefficient at killing off the enemies of the people. Be interesting to see how well it goes this time.
A serious problem I see this time is getting a loan.
enginemike on December 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM
From Blue Cross and Blue Shield CEO
I can’t afford those rates. Not many can. So much for this plan saving money.
Posted originally at http://www.omaha.com/article/20091220/NEWS0802/712209997/-1/NEWS08
Inzax on December 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM
if we refuse to pay the penalty tax, can we get a job in the Obama admin with the rest of the tax cheats?
kringeesmom on December 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM
It will take closer to 100 million. That’s about how many own weapons for self defense.
chemman on December 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM
See you in jail gophergirl.
Labamigo on December 21, 2009 at 2:19 PM
What about the self-employed?
Insurance options (from what I recall) already sux for them.
This is why I work off the ranch as a teacher.
My policy is almost $1000/month for a family.
My school pays about 96% of a family policy. I’m at the only school in the state that does that.
But if my policy goes up & my school district decides to drop that benefit, then teaching where I live won’t be worth it.
I’ll probably just quit & work under the table driving truck & doing other stuff.
This is just crazy.
And I’m sure the SCOTUS will probably have to rule on this at some point when the 1st conviction comes around.
And who knows what they’ll say.
Badger40 on December 21, 2009 at 2:30 PM
This is how they’ll kills us-through the care rationing that will enevitably develop from this.
Badger40 on December 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM
The Democrats are morans. Buy insurance and coverage begins in 2014.
Should I buy car insurance for the car I drive in 2014?
seven on December 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Will you sit in your car and buckle up for a trip that starts in 2014?
seven on December 21, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Genocide has never been physically difficult – and it is less so today than ever before. The only difficulty now is a moral issue; not a practical one. But bear in mind that American liberals have been inuring themselves to the concept of “relative morality” for decades now — to the faithful, literally ANYTHING is justifiable, at the drop of a hat.
The difference between this “complete economic transformation” and all the other previous ones is that America is STARTING OUT as a welfare state.
It has always been considered a necessary step to buy the loyalty of whoever happens to be the “victim class” for pennies a head. But how will that work in America? All propaganda aside for the moment, there is no “subjugated class” here. We have a productive half of the population, and a full half of its productivity is being used to pay the living expenses of the non-productive half of our population.
The critical question is, as you point out: how will the government finance ANYTHING, let alone a civil war, while its spending is going through the roof; its tax receipts are tanking; GDP is stagnant or dropping; and the country is simultaneously becoming insolvent?
The productive citizens are the ones who are angry. The Welfare Class are (again, putting all transient effects of agitprop aside for the moment) perfectly fat dumb and happy.
Against all odds, I believe the liberals are actually correct in assuming that they what they are instigating will comprise a complete re-organization of American society. However, I don’t think they have the faintest idea what form this particular revolution is taking.
logis on December 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM
“He predicts the mandate will help create societal expectations that everyone gets health insurance, just as most people feel obligated to buckle their seat belts.’
Horse manure.
There are at least 2 itsy bitsy differences.
There is virtually no penalty for not fastening your seat belt. The penalty for not purchasing health insurance will be thousands of dollars a year.
And everybody knows that fastening your safety belt can save a 25 year-old’s life. Very few will seriously believe that a 25 year-old not purchasing health insurance might kill you. It just won’t work that way.
notagool on December 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM
It’s time for a real civil war.
The last one was ostensibly to free the black man and give him equality.
Well now we’ve voted a half-black guy as our over-lord and he apparently wants to enslave everyone regardless of skin color.
Freedom or slavery? It’s gonna be a fight unless you choose the latter.
Dorvillian on December 21, 2009 at 3:21 PM
You’re forgetting, the version of the bill that is being voted on in the Senate isn’t the same as the one voted by the House. Pelosi needs to get another vote from the house, this time without the abortion amendment, so it’ll be very tough. If they change a single word, back to be voted on in the Senate!
SnKArcbound on December 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I am not sure the Senate bill addresses specific plans, but in the House bill, there’s a provision that states you must be enrolled in a “qualified plan.” What constitutes a qualified plan will be determined by Kathleen Sebelius 18 months after the bill is enacted into law. Whether a high-deductible plan is considered qualified is anyone’s guess, but I am thinking it won’t be. You will, like me, have to purchase something you neither want nor need (nor likely will use), and at a much higher cost than you would pay today b/c you will be all of a sudden subsidizing the sick.
At least that’s how I see it playing out. If it comes to an increase in my premium, I will drop it and go without until I need it.
I will not be paying any penalties, however. They’ll have to jail me first.
NoLeftTurn on December 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM
There are a lot of low income people who do not file. After all, if you don’t make much money you don’t have to file..and a lot of those people just get by and mind their own business too..they might not want to mess with the government. They might no want to divulge the money they made selling firewood or mowing other people’s lawns or whatever. How will the IRS find those people? And when umemployment is high and people are doing all sorts of things to make ends meet there are even more of those people.
For instance, my husband did not make much this year, his work was way down, but he owns land, so while his income might come in low, his assets are still there. It can very complicated, especially when the government is dealing with people who just want them to buzz off.
Terrye on December 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM
According to Harvard and Grayson, 44K die each year without health insurance.
The Harvard study is based on people
who died,
how old they were
and
if they had health insurance or not.
It did not take into account why or how someone died.
On average 40K Americans die each year due to car accidents , the vast majority of them are under 25 years old.
And the vast majority of those are male.
Oddly enough these are the same people who won’t buy health insurance, (not ta mention, no matter how good your health insurance is, if you slam a car into a brick wall at 100mph your dead)
so what good is this plan?
DSchoen on December 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM
States require drivers to buy car insurance, ONLY if they own and operate a motor vehicle on PUBLIC roads.
States do not require you to buy car insurance because you exist.
DSchoen on December 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
And they don’t want to or are unable to handle some 14th century thugs living in caves and tents.
Think back about how difficult it was to corral the crooks during the 1920′s and 30′s. They don’t think about that. But consider what the increasing number of homeless are going to do and then consider that Bozo and company are about to vastly increase their number.
dogsoldier on December 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM
The only thing about this bill that will happen are the taxes starting years before the coverage takes effect. If the Dems continue their insane ways they will lose the house next year and the senate and presidency in the following election cycle. This allows time to repeal the bill but I’ll bet that all the taxes collected get lost in the general fund (just like social security).
duff65 on December 21, 2009 at 5:25 PM
That’s why soon we will have a “Buyers Card” its the perfect tool for our new “ Nanny Nazi State” because we care!
A “Buyers Card” will be issued to each and every American.
This card MUST be used to purchase ANYTHING.
What you buy will be recorded in a central data base, say, if your weekly purchase exceeds your allotted caloric intake that six-pack of sodas will not cost $1.98 but $29.98.
You will not be allowed to NOT purchase the $29.98 six-pack of sodas, we can call this a “Teaching Purchase”.
The uses of this “Buyers Card” are endless, link it to the IRS and used to determine if you are spending more than you REPORT to the IRS, well then ya found a TAX cheat!
Isn’t that great!
DSchoen on December 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Er, excuse please. Everyone is not the same as most people. That’s about as logical as the idea of “societal expectations” making this work. And when was the last time societal expectations made anything work? Seat belts? Get stopped by a cop without a seatbelt, get cited. Are traffic citations now the same as “societal expectations”?
This is your White House Budget Director speaking, either ignorantly or, more likely, assuming that because he was speaking to USA Today, and the transcriptionist/reporter was willfully ignorant, that the immediate and apparent end users of the information are also some variety of ignorant. Probably a good bet.
Prediction: Compliance in the hands of the IRS? These new taxes will be withheld from paychecks.
curved space on December 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Of course people will comply. The government will handle this just like income tax: It will come out of your paycheck before it is in your hands. In fact, isn’t the IRS already going to be charged with enforcement of Obama/ReidCare?
It’s easy to steal money from people when they don’t even know they earned it. If payroll taxes today had to be paid out, instead of being withheld, there would be riots in the streets when people found out how much they are taxed.
The only people that may not comply are the unemployed and self-employed. Those will be easy to round up and “deal with.”
mojojojo on December 21, 2009 at 6:15 PM
And what happens to people who draw disability?
m1aman on December 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Many of these people also happen to be young and healthy.
I sense a flaw in the plan.
NoLeftTurn on December 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM
A Clockwork Obama.
Maquis on December 21, 2009 at 6:38 PM
We should hold giant rallies and burn copies of the fascist scarecare bill the way the hippies burned bras and draft cards in the 60s.
Screw the government. I’ll gladly go to jail before bowing to them.
madmonkphotog on December 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Hell NO we will not comply. I am a stay-at-home mom who has an apron hanging in the kitchen. Obama, Pelosi and Reid consider me a criminal. All our family wants to do is take care of ourselves and help out our neighbors. Obama and his minions can get stuffed.
Come and freaking get me, IRS.
citrus on December 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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