US releases 12 Gitmo detainees, 2 to gov’t we don’t recognize

posted at 9:30 am on December 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Obama administration deported more Gitmo detainees than earlier reported by the Washington Post, and not just to Yemen.  Instead of the six Yemenis first reported, the administration released a dozen detainees, including the six Yemenis but adding four Afghans and two Somalians.  The latter two get returned to a government with no diplomatic relations with the US, and which immediately released the pair:

Defense and Justice Department officials Saturday refused to comment on the massive transfer, a portion of which was reported by The Washington Post on Friday as a potential “prelude to the release of dozens more detainees to Yemen” at a time of gathering Republican resistance to the White House plan to move other detainees to Thomson, Ill.

Reports from Somaliland, a breakaway region in northern Somalia that has its own autonomous government, identified the freed Somalis as Ismael Arale, 45, and Mohamed Suleiman Barre, 44.

Arale and Barre were processed by the Somaliland government and then released to rejoin their families in Hargeisa, the major city in Somaliland and capital of the region, according to a statement on the official Somaliland Web site.

The United States does not recognize the government in Somaliland and there were no official statements on how Arale and Barre arrived there. A local newspaper, the Somaliland Press, said they arrived aboard a jet provided by the International Committee of the Red Cross, suggesting that the United States had released the men to the Red Cross in a third country.

Arale, who’s been described as a document forger and Islamic jurist, was captured in Somalia in 2006 was one of the last detainees ever taken to Guantánamo.

The Pentagon said in a June 6, 2007, announcement that Arale “exemplifies the genuine threat that the United States and other countries face throughout the world from dangerous extremists.”

We captured Arale in Somalia three years ago.  Since we don’t have any military presence in that country, or at least none we acknowledge, Arale had to have been captured either by covert intelligence forces or a secret military mission.  That must have meant that the Pentagon and/or the CIA thought him to be a significant target.  We don’t know, because the paperwork released on Arale has been heavily redacted — which also indicates the presumed value of having him in our custody.

Now he’s gone back to an area known to be a haven for terrorists — and under the control of a government with which the US doesn’t do business.  How exactly did that happen?  Somaliland is a breakaway piece of Somalia that no one recognizes.  Does the US usually extradite prisoners to jurisdictions that we do not recognize and in the absence of an extradition treaty?

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.


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The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.

…..

Who are we to lecture on failed states?

The U.S. will be taking loans from Somalia in a few years.

artist on December 21, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.

About what you’d expect from a failed presidency.

jbh45 on December 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Well, it’s cool… we can assume Arale was completely rehabilitated, right? Obama would not let him out without confirming that. Now, after all those years in Gitmo, he’ll go pal around with his terrorist friends and tell them how great America is. Surely somebody would not hold a grudge that long…. right?

I can see the exit interview now:

Guard: Do you love America?
Arale: ummmmmm…. yes?
Guard: Good enough for me. Move out!

Ferris on December 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Is it wrong for me to find myself wishing that this entire Administration would collectively drop dead, BEFORE “smart power” results in another terrorist attack on US soil?

/absolute a$$holes

Wanderlust on December 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.

But now the world will love us, right?

trubble on December 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM

TSA document accidentally released and a forger released.

Hmmmm. Hmmmm. Hmmmmm

Have life insurance and gird your loins.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Good God. Whoever debates Obama in 2012 better leave him crying in a fetal position when those 90 minutes are up. This is the Hindenburg of Presidents.

Doughboy on December 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM

I think the big O is trying to SURPRISE us by meeting the original Gitmo closure deadline

God Help Us.

ginaswo on December 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM

We released prisoners to Yemen….the same Yemen where we are using Predators to kill terrorists. Wow, did we do that in WW2….you know, release German prisoners to Germany while we fighting them? At what point do these actions become the equivalent of aiding and abetting the enemy? Just kidding, we are already there. We have lost of friggin minds.

David in ATL on December 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM

by thetime this is over Gitmo will probably be the safest place in America

hey if WE move to Gitmo maybe we can bypass the tax provisions in the HCR travesty!

ginaswo on December 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Ogabe and the ‘rats are going to get a lot of innocent people killed from the results of their decisions.

But who knows, maybe someday soon Yemeni troops will be landing on our shores to depose the dictator sitting in D.C.

Bishop on December 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Screw it, I’m going to convert. I don’t want my head sawed off in front of a camera.

Mord on December 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Good God. Whoever debates Obama in 2012 better leave him crying in a fetal position when those 90 minutes are up. This is the Hindenburg of Presidents.

Doughboy on December 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Are you kidding?

I can see it now, the GOP approves these debate panelists:

1. Al Sharpton
2. Rachel Maddow
3. Howard Dean

artist on December 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

You know… I can ALMOST admire this administration’s will to do whatever it thinks is right, no matter the consequences. I say that I “almost” admire it because it’s so patently obvious that most of what it does are Horrendously HORRIBLE ideas.

This is WORST than Carter 2.0.

ExSubNuke on December 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

I’ve never understood why no one recognizes Somaliland. They’re actually a fairly stable government and before this “catch and release” thing I thought they were actually kind of decent.

Red Cloud on December 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM

The latter two get returned to a government with no diplomatic relations with the US, and which immediately released the pair:

heckava job there dear leader…

cmsinaz on December 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Well, obviously, this Arale guy has been flipped by the CIA and is now a paid informant working for the United States. That’s the only reason why the US would release him so early.

He is being sent back to Somalia to infiltrate the terrorists organizations there and will be reporting back to his handlers at the CIA.

It’s not a problem.

Skandia Recluse on December 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Everyday I think that Obama has reached a new low in policy…and he manages to move the bar of leadership ever lower.
I laughed at people when they said he was a one term president, now I am almost sure that is what it will be…and I laughed at people who said he might not finish his term, and I am beginning to wonder.
How much more foolishness can America take?
Pedophiles and sex perverts running our fed schools, tax evaders running our economy, terrorists being given rights, voter fraud being ignored, corporations being taken over by the feds…and the health care fiasco.
How many detainees do we release until one comes back to finish the job others have started?
My God…what have we done to our country?

right2bright on December 21, 2009 at 9:44 AM

artist on December 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

sad but true, they rather play nice then actually stand for anything…they need to play like the(D)s or they will get creamed…I know I know we need to be above the fray,but that can’t work with these slick weasels…

cmsinaz on December 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Terrorists give Obama a good, solid B+ (and they mean it).

The only reason he doesn’t get an A is because there are still some terrorists that are currently in our custody. Obama and Holder will fix that, too.

Good Lt on December 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM

This is like releasing a pedophile to NAMBLA to oversee and make sure he is “converted”…

right2bright on December 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM

If this country can survive 4 years of Obama trying his best to destroy our financial system and military .It will take years for us to recover.The people that voted for this horror some how should be made to last in line for any recovery.

thmcbb on December 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM

We all knew we’d rue the day Holder was given power over justice, and we have a lot of spineless conservatives to thank for assisting his appointment. Effing cowards.

Goldy1 on December 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Give Obama a break. He needs GITMO to house enemies of the state.

Supreme Court Guts Due Process Protection

The development? If the president or one of his subordinates declares someone to be an “enemy combatant” (the 21st century version of “enemy of the state”) he is denied any protection of the law. So any trouble-maker (which means anyone) can be whisked away, incarcerated, tortured, “disappeared,” you name it.

After hearing passionate arguments from the Obama Administration, the Supreme Court acquiesced to the president’s fervent request and, in a one-line ruling, let stand a lower court decision that declared torture an ordinary, expected consequence of military detention, while introducing a shocking new precedent for all future courts to follow: anyone who is arbitrarily declared a “suspected enemy combatant” by the president or his designated minions is no longer a “person.” They will simply cease to exist as a legal entity. They will have no inherent rights, no human rights, no legal standing whatsoever — save whatever modicum of process the government arbitrarily deigns to grant them from time to time, with its ever-shifting tribunals and show trials.

[...]
The implications are FAR worse. Anyone can be stripped, with NO RECOURSE, of all their legal rights on a Presidential say so. Readers in the US no longer have any security under the law.

Rae on December 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Narrator: Sentor Reid, you just got cloture on Obamacare, not what are you going to do?

Reid: I am going to Somaliland.

WashJeff on December 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM

They go right back into the ransk of jihadis.

Hope to see them featured as War P@rn on Weasel Zippers soon.

Akzed on December 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM

All Muslim countries are failed states, they are all Jihadist states, so what is the difference?

BL@KBIRD on December 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Too early to move for impeachment? Do we have to wait until the economy, the Republic, the freedoms of the people have been completely compromised?
Congress has been turned into an out in the open organized crime machine in order to force a political ideology on a population who clearly does not want it…..and thats not overstepping their powers and doesn’t undermine the Constitution??
Reeeeally?

Itchee Dryback on December 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM

“You can get a lot more done in the middle of the night”- B. Obama

Fletch54 on December 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM

I am preparing myself to hear the incredible silence from the state run media when one of these turds (who properly should have been subject to a firing squad) kills an American.

Vashta.Nerada on December 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.
===========================================================

I know the Obama Administration is incompetant,but this is
no accident,this is Liberal Party policy,its deliberate,and
no,I don’t have the facts to support my theory!

canopfor on December 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Are the adults in charge yet?

Del Dolemonte on December 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Wow, this is really pathetic. I believe this administration is dangerous!!!

This is scary and sad.

deidre on December 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM

where the heck are the trolls on this thread?!

deidre on December 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head…

It’s happening. Revolution, anyone?

Goldy1 on December 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

“You can get a lot more done in the middle of the night”- B. Obama

Fletch54 on December 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Fletch54: Especially,at 3:00AM!!!:)

canopfor on December 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I’ve never understood why no one recognizes Somaliland.

Red Cloud on December 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM

For the same reason Bush the Elder was against Ukraine breaking away from Russia. Established govts do not want to set the precedent that it is OK for territories to seceed.

MarkTheGreat on December 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM

You know I’m beginning to wonder if the Mayans weren’t on to something…

texabama on December 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM

where the heck are the trolls on this thread?!

deidre on December 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Still sipping wine celebrating the further undoing of the founding principles of this country.

WashJeff on December 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Now he’s Predator bait!

Tony737 on December 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Wonderful

blatantblue on December 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM

You know I’m beginning to wonder if the Mayans weren’t on to something…

texabama on December 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM

texabama: Yup,the movie,’Knowing’ comes to mind!:)

The End!!
=========

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQEh5_pSbd4

canopfor on December 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Wow, did we do that in WW2….you know, release German prisoners to Germany while we fighting them? At what point do these actions become the equivalent of aiding and abetting the enemy?
David in ATL on December 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM

+++100

lovingmyUSA on December 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Will someone please ask Pillsbury Dough Boy Gibbs about this during the next presser? I would actually love to see Helen Thomas lob the question because she won’t shut her yap until she gets an answer.

D2Boston on December 21, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Maybe we implanted chips into these men and we are using them for more intelligence. And the dream lives on.

bridgetown on December 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Are the adults in charge yet?

Del Dolemonte on December 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Del Dolemonte: Smart Power *ssHatery Death Star is
operational,and waiting orders for
destruction by the Tea Party Patriots
on one flank,and the SarahCuda Army cl
osing in on the other flank!!!(Snark).

canopfor on December 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

The very slim chance that some of these people, all of whom have been wrongly imprisoned, most likely tortured and deprived of their basic human rights, may return to their former (alleged) life of terrorism is a small price topay for the goodwill that we have now earned among both the Muslim world and more enlightened Western countries.
If Bush hadn’t failed so spectacularly in protecting us and hadn’t flusehd all the goodwill the U.S. earned since WWII down the toilet, then this wouldn’t be necessary. Obama is making the hard decisions. We can all be thankful that we now have a President with a longterm vision.

(just filling in for our missing trolls…)

max1 on December 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM

How long before this becomes treason!?

Honestly, if this administration set out on a course to deliberately make this country less safe, a veritable target, I don’t see what they could do differently other than building Bin Laden a palace in the desert and picking him up on Air Force One to bring him on over.

Incredible.

paustin110 on December 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Will someone please ask Pillsbury Dough Boy Gibbs about this during the next presser? I would actually love to see Helen Thomas lob the question because she won’t shut her yap until she gets an answer.

D2Boston on December 21, 2009 at 10:08 AM

D2Boston: I’m wondering what word Gibbsy is searching for,
to describe today,I bet,’Bitter Americans’!!!:)

canopfor on December 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Obama is sending 30,000 troops out. He wants to ‘level the playing field’.

bridgetown on December 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Good God. Whoever debates Obama in 2012 better leave him crying in a fetal position when those 90 minutes are up. This is the Hindenburg of Presidents.

Doughboy on December 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM

I’ve thought that often. I actually wonder if Obama will choose not to run rather than face the bloodbath that will be the debates. He won’t have the country swooning over him anymore — in fact, he may be the most hated man in America by that point — and he gets terrifically angry when challenged. A high school debater could tear him to shreds with just his performance over the last year. Give him three more, and it’ll be the debate of the century. He’s a straight-up corrupt liar. Watching him be called to account for that will be quite interesting. What’s more, Fox News will likely get one of the debates in 2012. They’ve earned it. More people watch them than anyone else. Oh my.

Rational Thought on December 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Don’t blame me. For better or for worse, I voted McCain/Palin……….

adamsmith on December 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Paroy: Guantanamo Bay Class of ’08, Now Released, Gathers for Class Reunion, Mass Destruction http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/12/guantanamo-bay-class-of-08-now-released.html

Mervis Winter on December 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I’ve never understood why no one recognizes Somaliland. They’re actually a fairly stable government and before this “catch and release” thing I thought they were actually kind of decent.

It’s really a wonderful place, with Somali Disney and all. You know, I was thinking of sending my daughter there for school, the options for an exchange program are endless…

Vincenzo on December 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.

Good thing we plan to release the rest of them in the Western part of Illinois. We wouldn’t want them in the middle of another failed state, especially one that can’t even fund their own prisons.

MNScott on December 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM

B+rack

kelley in virginia

Kelley, if that’s your’s, we gotta make sure you get full credit for it!

Tony737 on December 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM

(from the Chavez Headline thread)

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM

You beat me…it will be a classic…B+rack…

right2bright on December 21, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Let’s see. KSM, et al., get a civilian trial in NYC. Other enemy combatants to be transfered to an Illinois prison where full due process and other constitutional rights will attach the moment they land on US soil. Yet other of these vermin are released to countries friendly to them.

Now, if you’re a soldier in theatre today and happen across the enemy, do you choose Door No. 1 (Capture), Door No. 2 (Summarily Kill), or Door No. 3 (Do Nothing)?

The ROEs clearly lean toward Door No. 1, unless you or your brothers are in mortal danger. But that door ultimately leads to nowhere.

If you choose Door No. 2, you’re at risk yourself for being court martialed unless you can prove you were following all the applicable ROEs.

Door No. 3, anyone?

TXUS on December 21, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I sure hope we have one of those James Bond injectible tracking things in him. In 4 years under a new administration, we could just send a Preditor drone to the signal and bomb the whole group. (Provided we have plugged the hack on the drones.)

barnone on December 21, 2009 at 10:47 AM

right2bright on December 21, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Only this thread- I need to step away from the computer and catch up on the house and pray for our country.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM

The Obama Doctrine:

~weaken and endanger America in some way, every day.

profitsbeard on December 21, 2009 at 10:55 AM

And all the AGW money from developed nations, goes to these developing nations. To fund their projects to make the environment better? Hell no! To fund their projects like nukes, and weapons, as a means of attacking western nations? Hell yes!

Isn’t if fun? We’re funding our own demise!

capejasmine on December 21, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Doughboy on December 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Now about those debates, I’m unable to attend them and particpate in them because I am too busy throwing parties running the country.
/zero

Brat4life on December 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Obama says “Ya gotta he’p the brothas out, man!”

SilentWatcher on December 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Obama says “Ya gotta he’p the brothas out, man!”

SilentWatcher on December 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Meanwhile, his brother George continues to live on his meager pittance, and Obama’s aunt is shunned from any contact with her nephew. Change we can believe in! ;)

capejasmine on December 21, 2009 at 11:12 AM

With Obama’s “capture and release” terrorist program, it looks like our armed forces and intelligence personnel are better off if they shoot to kill.

OxyCon on December 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM

“The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.”

Ka-Lee-For-Nya ?

holdfast on December 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM

We captured Arale in Somalia three years ago. Since we don’t have any military presence in that country, or at least none we acknowledge, Arale had to have been captured either by covert intelligence forces or a secret military mission. That must have meant that the Pentagon and/or the CIA thought him to be a significant target. We don’t know, because the paperwork released on Arale has been heavily redacted — which also indicates the presumed value of having him in our custody.

CIA morale takes another hit. Where is Panetta in all of this?
Who is going to put their life of the line to infiltrate a group or turn a known jihadi to reveal the important figures in an organization IF ALL WE ARE GOING TO DO IS RELEASE THEM?
Obama, they already DID the catch and release of small fry. This guy had to be a hell of a forger for us to go after him in Somalia. We are in elephant doo doo now.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM

President Obama needs something to report as done for his state of the union address.

meMC on December 21, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Wow, this is quite a development. I guess we will be hearing all about this on all the major networks eh?
/s

JusDreamin on December 21, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Obama sure is impressive, always exceeding expectations and moving the bar further. Unfortunately that would be low expectactions and moving the bar further to the ground.

At this rate, is 35 miles from downtown Chicago far enough away?

aikidoka on December 21, 2009 at 12:10 PM

***
Too bad the CIA didn’t load these Jihadis up with B**T BOMBS before they turned them loose. Maybe they could “cozy up” to their handlers and enablers during their welcome home parties and do some more “unintended” Predator type “hope and change” work.
***
The only good Jihadi is a dead Jihadi. Make it happen.
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on December 21, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Does the US usually extradite prisoners to jurisdictions that we do not recognize and in the absence of an extradition treaty

Obviously this administration does.

chemman on December 21, 2009 at 2:02 PM

History will trace the unprecedented fall of America, from the world’s sole super-power, to just another corrupt 3rd world nation to November, 2008 – the day the nation handed its future into the hands of “President” Obama and the Democrats. This time will be memoralized as when:

“The citizens of America exchanged their freedom and liberty for the illusion of security and cradle to grave government-provided care.”

The future will be baffled by this seemingly insane action and will search the ruins of the nation for some environmental factor, much like the lead drinking-water pipes of Rome, that could explain such a decision. They will fail to find one.

“Doomed” is too mild a term for what we now are. “To be pitied” is far more accurate.

Fatal on December 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM

But did Obama bow to them first?

AnotherOpinion on December 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM

What’s the big deal with releasing a couple more pirates? How can they make any money (and contribute to the won’s 2012 campaign) in gitmo?

notanobot on December 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I can ALMOST admire this administration’s will to do whatever it thinks is right politically expedient, no matter the consequences

There, fixed it for you.

Common Sense on December 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM

B+

Alden Pyle on December 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Somaliland is a breakaway piece of Somalia

Yeah, but they have all the best rollercoasters, so…

Mark Jaquith on December 21, 2009 at 3:07 PM

OT but then again on topic:

Confirmation that Illinois is a bad place to send gitmo detainees:

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/comments/?id=345716

Lawsuit over too much soy in prison. NK.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Now he’s gone back to an area known to be a haven for terrorists — and under the control of a government with which the US doesn’t do business.

Is that true? I always thought Somaliland (formerly British Somaliland) wasn’t involved in terrorism, that only the former Italian Somaliland (all of Somalia which isn’t Somaliland) had terrorist problems. If so, your implications are inaccurate. If not, you haven’t substantiated them.

Somaliland might not be recognized by anyone, but, as I understand it, it is a stable democracy. The only reasons to call it a “failed state” are because it emerged from a failed state and because no one recognizes it. Taiwan isn’t a “failed state.” Northern Cyprus isn’t a “failed state.” Just because a place is unrecognized doesn’t mean it’s a God-forsaken terrorist-loving hellhole.

calbear on December 21, 2009 at 3:54 PM

The only thing more foolish than releasing terrorists is to release them in the middle of failed states.

Hey, we’re moving them to Illinois too. That’s about the same.

Hawkins1701 on December 21, 2009 at 4:26 PM