Der Spiegel: Copenhagen a Club for Losers
posted at 2:55 pm on December 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Der Spiegel blasts the Copenhagen conference as “a Club for Losers” after it utterly failed to produce a consensus even on Barack Obama’s facesaving non-binding resolution. They excoriate everyone from China to Obama and even the UN, but retain their most pungent shots for European diplomats who bungled both expectations and diplomacy. And Der Speigel now says the best hope for progress won’t come from Turtle Bay, but from a process set in motion by a man whom AGW hysterics used to regard as the devil incarnate:
After days of negotiations, debate, political drama and pages of will-they or won’t-they headlines, the Copenhagen climate conference is over. And there is no conclusive agreement on any important issues. So did the situation produce any winners — or has the whole world become a club for environmental losers?
Even if the world’s leading climate scientists are only partially correct, then without a fairly ambitious climate agreement there will be dramatic consequences for our planet. And the climate conference in Copenhagen neither delivered such an agreement nor did it show any concievable way of reaching one. Countless scientific studies leave us in no doubt that the whole of humanity — and in particular future generations — will lose out. Because, at best, we can only guess the exact nature of the consequences of global warming and the extent of negative change in our natural environment.
Well, perhaps we should wait to see if the world’s leading climate scientists are “even partially correct” before using AGW as a means for a massive redistribution of wealth. This admission alone seems rather startling from Der Spiegel. It shows just how much damage Climategate has done to the AGW hysteric movement as a whole. They’re the biggest losers, and the draining of their credibility means it will be very difficult to stage another Copenhagen without a fully transparent and complete data set that actually determines whether AGW hysterics are correct at all.
But this is even more amusing for its irony:
The United Nations has always maintained that climate protection can only be effective if it’s administered globally — and that the issue cannot be solved by smaller groups like the Major Economies Forum on Energy and Climate. It was actually former US President George W. Bush who initiated this kind of forum but at the time many observers were skeptical that it was Bush’s way of circumventing a broader, more global consensus on climate change. This most recent effort, featuring 16 major economies, was launched by President Obama in April of this year and was meant to augment the UN talks in Copenhagen.
And although UN chief Ban Ki-moon seemed almost euphoric during his concluding statements in Copenhagen and at a press conference, it seemed that almost the opposite emotion would have been more appropriate.
The chaotic Copenhagen summit showed up the UN’s shortcomings more clearly than ever — non-governmental organizations felt that they were shut out, small nations believed they were overlooked and some of the larger nations — and the Chinese in particular — showed exactly how unwilling they were to compromise.
And it was Bush who actually outperformed Europe and its cap-and-trade system on carbon emissions, too. While being demonized by AGW hysterics, Bush tried reaching economic agreements with China and India that didn’t involve massive wealth redistribution, maintained economic growth, and lowered actual CO2 emissions. Why? Europe’s system essentially turned into a corruption market instead of a method to reduce carbon emissions.
George W. Bush has gone from environmental demon to AGW hysteria’s final hope. Don’t expect Hope and Change posters by Shepherd Fairey to start popping up all over the EU, of course.
Meanwhile, the UK blames China for crushing Hopenhagen:
China is to blame for the poor progress made during the Copenhagen climate change talks, Ed Miliband said today.
In the most direct attack on the country to date, the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change accused China of hijacking the summit.
He claimed that Beijing “vetoed” moves to give legal force to the accord and blocked an agreement on global reductions in greenhouse emissions.
Its delegates even blocked attempts by advanced industrial countries to set a target of an 80 per cent reduction by 2050 for themselves, even though China is classified as a developing country.
Perhaps that’s because (a) China also took note of the corruption endemic in Europe’s system, and (b) figured that they would not be classified as “developing” for very much longer. China is the world’s largest carbon emitter, and its industrialization has become so significant that the International Olympic Committee had to start considering contingencies last year when smog smothered Beijing just before the start of the games. Any international effort to limit emissions has to address China, or it will completely lack credibility with other developing nations.










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AGW fanatics insist the temperature must never change and ice must never melt. In essence … they are the true climate change deniers.
darwin on December 21, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Yes…or we could all just dump the hysteria and let the natural warming cycle take its course and simply get on with life without hyperventilating about a degree here and there.
Coming out of an ice age, the temps must show an upward trend..otherwise we would still be in an ice age.
If the average natural trend is about a degree per century, since the early 1800′s we have warmed 2 degrees. Have there been any problems adapting? Are we living the apocalypse of it?..life now is horrible compared to 1800?….without the “science” would it even be perceptable?
Itchee Dryback on December 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM
oakland doesn’t know about the Little Ice Age. oakland only get’s it’s “facts” from NOAA, who deleted the LIA.
darwin on December 21, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Depends, doesn’t it?
We are a quite adaptable species. If you’re asking..or hoping that things will stay the same and never change, well thats just silly imo. The areas of food production will simply shift from here to there. The growing techniques and crop choices will change and we will adapt and most likely not miss a beat.
Yes. I’m sure warmer temps are always better. This is evidenced by the fact that most of life is found in warmer areas of the globe.
No..I don’t think that there will necessarily be greater extremes in weather overall. The areas exposed to the weather may change..we’ll have to adapt.
Itchee Dryback on December 21, 2009 at 7:06 PM
So, where are the data that include the LIA? Surely, some astute scientist has seen through all of the corruption and posted the true comparative data for all to see….no? Is this not what should happen, and will inevitably happen, and soon?
oakland on December 21, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Obama’s two strikes in Copenhagen show that America is embarrassed about our mentally-handicapped president….
IntheNet on December 21, 2009 at 7:16 PM
So, our efforts should be directed at raising the global temperatures for the sake of improving our lives through better crop yields?
Will adapting be an easy thing to do? Can we easily predict what crops will thrive in a warmer environment, without trial and error and massive crop failures?
oakland on December 21, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Here’s what needs to be done:
Cold areas of the world need to be warmer.
Hot areas of the world need to be cooler.
Come back when you have a way to do that.
Goodbye.
Meremortal on December 21, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Have you ever tried typing “Little Ice Age” in Google?
I could sit here all night and give you link after link but that’s tiring when you could find this stuff yourself.
While you’re at it, look up the warming in the 1940′s. Also look up Arctic melt in the ’40′s. If you’re good, you’ll find old NYT’s articles talking about “global warming”. Some have pictures.
Yeah … the polar bears survived, don’t know how, but they did it.
darwin on December 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Thanks, Darwin; I’ll check that out. I enjoyed the exchanges with you. G’nite.
oakland on December 21, 2009 at 7:30 PM
oh … oakland. Remember those paintings of Washington crossing the ice laden Delaware River and the tales of the bitter cold at Valley Forge during the Revolutionary war? Yeah, that was the Little Ice Age.
darwin on December 21, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Hard to do when the raw data has been destroyed.
Itchee Dryback on December 21, 2009 at 7:39 PM
You obviously didn’t read the article that I dug up for you. Or you did and didn’t understand it. It’s pretty straightforward, so if you can’t understand it, you are coming from quite a bit behind, and perhaps aren’t really in a position to benefit from this particular discussion.
mr.blacksheep on December 21, 2009 at 7:49 PM
No. Why disrespect nature like that and strive for domination?
Let nature take its course and we’ll adapt.
Who knows..maybe we will not have to adapt to much of anything.
Has it been hard adapting to the couple degree increase over the last couple centurys?
We already know what crops thrive in warmer temps. Most crops have a wide range of growth survival parameters. Specialty crops may be more expensive and things like vineyards may have to adapt..but these are not necessary for human survival. Will all crops continue to be available at all times through the season?..who knows, but that is little more than a yuppie luxury anyway. People should become more earth based and allow themselves to be satisfied with the natural cycles. We’ve become so removed from nature with our unrealistic expectations imo.
Maybe things will not change much at all.
Itchee Dryback on December 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM
That pic of Bush put a smile on my face. Any pic of him does but that one shows that cute playfulness of his. Sadly missing from arrogant O’s insufferably smug mug.
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on December 22, 2009 at 12:33 AM
I couldn’t agree with you more, Aslan’s Girl.
I wish I could make it into a bumper-sticker. It would have a prominant spot between my “NObama” sticker, and the one that says “How’s that Hope-n-Change thing working for you?”
DuctTapeMyBrain on December 22, 2009 at 8:37 AM
oakland Dec@7:17
there are drought resisitant strains of wheat and rye which are working out quite well. Hydroponic farming is another alternative. What I find scary is the whole geothermal thing to produce energy. Causing man made earthquakes is not a good idea. We should be much more wary when screwing around with the natural sequence of climate changes. We have no idea what it will do to our planet or the future generations living on it. More science and less hysteria please.
elclynn on December 22, 2009 at 8:54 AM
and (c) as a holder of massive U.S. debt, undermining the U.S.’s ability to service that debt is the last thing China needs right now.
RD on December 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM
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