Breaking: Nelson will vote for cloture

posted at 9:47 am on December 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Every man has his price, apparently, and Harry Reid found Ben Nelson’s price for a cloture vote on ObamaCare.  Nelson announced this morning that the language in the manager’s amendment on aborti0n will be enough to secure his support for Reid’s compromise bill, but Think Progress reports on what really sold Nelson — or bought Nelson, depending on your perspective.  First, the Washington Post:

Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), the final Democratic holdout on health care, was prepared to announce to his caucus Saturday morning that he would support the Senate reform bill, clearing the way for final passage by Christmas.

“We’re there,” said Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), as he headed into a special meeting to announce the deal.

Democratic leaders spent days trying to hammer out a deal with Nelson, and worked late Friday night with Nelson on abortion coverage language that had proved the major stumbling block. But Nelson also secured other favors for his home state.

A few favors?  Try a boatload of federal cash:

Under the current merged legislation (the version unveiled on November 18th), the federal government fully finances care for the expanded population for two years and increases its matching funds (known as FMAP) thereafter. Page 98 of the managers amendment specifically identifies Nebraska for higher federal matching funds, fully funding its expansion for an additional year:

‘‘(3) Notwithstanding subsection (b) and paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, the Federal medical assistance percentage otherwise determined under subsection (b) with respect to all or any portion of a fiscal year that begins on or after January 1, 2017, for the State of Nebraska, with respect to amounts expended for newly eligible individuals described in subclause (VIII) of section 1902(a)(10)(A)(i), shall be determined as provided for under subsection (y)(1) (A) (notwithstanding the period provided for in such paragraph)

Subsection (y)(1)(A) refers to page 399 of the original merged Senate legislation which fully funds state Mediciad expansions for the first two years. The manager’s amendment also provides 2.2% increase in FMAP to help states finance their existing Medicaid programs.

That will be worth at least hundreds of millions of dollars in federal cash for Nebraska … for the first three years.  After that, Nebraskans get as screwed as the rest of the country.

And what about that abortion coverage? Nelson caved, as one can read in the published version, via Patriot Room:

Managers Amendment

Scroll down to Section 1303, which uses the same reliance on the “prohibited under HHS rules” dodge as the earlier Senate version, rather than using the language from the Stupak Amendment in the House that explicitly prohibited public money from funding abortions or abortion coverage. If Congress fails to renew the Hyde Amendment for just one year, this language will become moot. This version will lose none of the progressives, because they know they can just kill the Hyde Amendment renewal now to eliminate the problem.

Nelson caved on abortion and sold out for an extra year of federal Medicaid subsidies.


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You might think differently when you start receiving your paycheck starting in January to pay for what your “unAmerikans” have charged to this country. Oh…I forgot you probably don’t work and live in your mother’s basement.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Blah, blah, blah. You can’t even be bothered to join your fellow cornhusking zeroes for their little protest today. Well played, internet patriot!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Charles Fox, member of the British parliament after Corwallis’ “victory” at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse (Mar 1781) that sent him scurrying to Yorktown:

“Another such victory would ruin the British army.”

mankai on December 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM

You have no problem making treasonous statements, I see.

mankai on December 20, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Not in the least
simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Freudian (Marxian) slip?

mankai on December 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Here’s what I did yesterday.

I went to the local store and purchased 30 dimes. The I got a nice little drawstring bag, and put them inside it.

Then I went to the post office, and placed the bag with the dimes and a small note to the senator into a padded mailer and sent it off to him.

The note read: “Dear Senator, please find enclosed a small bag with 30 pieces of silver. I understand that this is the customary price for betrayal of one’s freinds and family. Since you have betrayed our nation by selling out to the highest bidder your vote on an illegal and unconstitutional health care bill, I felt it only proper that you be recompensed appropriately.”

I included my name and address. I hope he meets the same fate as the original Judas.

Feel free to do th same thing, if you like.

AW1 Tim on December 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM

simplesimon343 on December 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM

No protest today, simple343….you need to read the posts more carefully.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM

This is my conversation with Maquis from the headlines section. The same two cents on a two bit politician:

So then, Nelson’s principled stand against abortion was merely a bargaining ploy to drive up the price of his vote? This man’s soul shall cast a very faint shadow from this day forth.
Maquis on December 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM

One thing we can be certain of is it was not a principled stand
If someone believes abortion is murder, they would give up their power rather than facilitate such murder. They would walk away before they forced others to facilitate such murder
Unless murder was not as important as power
So either he never considered abortion murder, or he considered power more important than a few murders
However you cut it, it was aa lie
This leads me to the rumor going around that the abortion argument was a set up from the beginning, to allow various factions to pretend they cared. The pantomine was created whereby the ‘caring’ opponent would wage a ‘heroic’ (i.e. seat retaining) fight for principle, after which he would be forced, forced by unstoppable power to sign his name to the document ….
When of course, no man need sign any document in the USA, if he lives by his convictions
Anyone not phased by a few million murders would have no problem staging a bit of re election drama. Tears, sighs, and B.S. all rolled into a big fat cigar for the party backstage
Nelson wasn’t fooled, and he wasn’t waterboarded. He did not make a bad deal by mistake. He a a deal in public to facilitate the deal made in private
entagor on December 20, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Got to add, the short term nature of the deal, here today, gone tomorrow, shows the arrogance and confidence of the DEM leadership. I think they were having fun with this. A bit of rubbing the dogs nose into the dog dish.

This is the arrogance that follows a sense of absolute power. At the moment they have it and they are wallowing

entagor on December 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Nelson is no worse or better than the rest of the 59 democrat senators crooks,liars and thieves.All of them have to be taken down. I wonder how Laura.Ingraham feels now on fri show she thought Nelson was going to stand up and not cave.She told people to call his office and thank him.I have never seen the anger that is out there all over this country.The election in 2010 may be one of historic proportion making what happen in 1994 look small.The anger is real and way more wide spread than anything this country has ever seen.We maybe looking at a permanent realignment .

thmcbb on December 20, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Omaha Conservative – I won’t be able to come to Omaha today….husband’s birthday preparations. If you can, try to find the 76th and Pacific Tea Party people and get on their e-mail list so you are kept up to date on future protests.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 8:12 AM

No protest today, simple343….you need to read the posts more carefully.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM

And you need to keep your lies straight, internet patriot!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM

You real americans need to stop whining! You guys lost – BADLY, in 06 and 08. Your opinions dont matter. Your america is long gone.

Enjoy!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM

you’re right it is gone…and you will fit right in with the new fascist state of ameriKKKa, with your starched brown-shirt.

oh but as Rohm found out…the revolution often devours its own…enjoy, while you can.

right4life on December 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM

simplesimon343 on December 20, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Simple343 – Like I said, no protest today. Have you become the new Internet Spy?

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

If I were any of the other 59 Democrats I would demand the same deal that Nelson got or no deal. Not that I would want ObamaCare for America. Just saying!

Dasher on December 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM

BTW: Here is the list of senators up for election in 2010: Senate Class_III

Dasher on December 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

BTW: Here is the list of senators up for election in 2010: Senate Class_III

Dasher on December 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Even if we beat every dimmocrat, we’d only have 56.

darwin-t on December 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Let’s place the blame for this where it belongs: squarely on Olympia Snowe. Her lone vote moved this process (not the bill because the bill is different now) out of committee. Hey, Maine, thanks a lot!

SouthernGent on December 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Simple343 – Like I said, no protest today. Have you become the new Internet Spy?

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 12:32 PM

simon isn’t capable of being a spy. It’s barely capable of writing two or three sentences.

darwin on December 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Let’s place the blame for this where it belongs: squarely on Olympia Snowe. Her lone vote moved this process (not the bill because the bill is different now) out of committee. Hey, Maine, thanks a lot!

SouthernGent on December 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Is she up in 2010?

darwin on December 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM

AnninCA,

You are missing the point. He did get breaks for Nebraskans, which we conservative Nebraskans are vehemently opposed to.

Nelson has screwed the American Taxpayer. Us Nebraskans did not ask for, nor do we desire, a hand out from the Feds. We just want to be left alone.

Gothguy on December 20, 2009 at 9:50 AM

We don’t want this AnninCA. Ben Nelson is not speaking for the majority of his voters and he will find out very soon that he had better start thinking about retirement.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Ditto. We Nebraskans are proud, hardworking people who are careful with our money, and the majority of us do not want, need, or expect a handout. Benedict Nelson has insulted us at best. There were an awful lot of indignant Nebrasakans at church this morning.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Even if we beat every dimmocrat, we’d only have 56.

darwin-t on December 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

It’s still better than 40.

ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Even if we beat every dimmocrat, we’d only have 56.

darwin-t on December 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

51 ( along with the new Republican majority in the House ) will be good enough. For starters, it will make ‘simple’ wet itself while choking with feral impotent rage

Janos Hunyadi on December 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM

You real americans need to stop whining! You guys lost – BADLY, in 06 and 08. Your opinions dont matter. Your america is long gone.

Enjoy!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Blabbag Simon lol.
“Your forces are useless. The Revolutionary Gard is crushing you!. Saddam is laughing at your weakness!
We have prevailed!”

Oh yeah….Waaaaaaaa..

Itchee Dryback on December 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Even if we beat every dimmocrat, we’d only have 56.

darwin-t on December 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM
It’s still better than 40.

ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Here’s hoping for more democrat early retirements! Tennessee Democrats John Tanner & Bart Gordon (US Congress) chose an early retirement instead of facing an embarrasing and expensive defeat.

TN Mom on December 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

These ads on FNC telling Benedict to stand up to/against liberal dems are making me sick and furious.
Just seeing his ugly mug enrages me.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Why is it that no one is asking Senator Jim Webb of Virginia, who has said nothing about his vote, anything? He wrote an op-ed earlier last week and said he was undecided. His spokeswoman said the same thing on Thursday. Apparently, no one in the media has asked him anything since then, and he has said nothing about his vote.

So all of you who live in Virginia, in particular, need to melt his phone, fax, and e-mail now! He is likely tallying his contacts from constituents. Remember, Virgina just had a huge Republican victory in the Gubernatorial race. His contact information is below.

Danville
308 Craghead Street
Suite 102A
Danville, VA 24541
Phone: 434-792-0976
Fax: 434-972-0978

Hampton Roads
222 Central Park Ave.
Suite 120
Virginia Beach, VA 23462
Phone: 757-518-1674
Fax: 757-518-1679

Northern Virginia
7309 Arlington Boulevard
Suite 316
Falls Church, VA 22042
Loehmann’s Plaza
Phone:703-573-7090
Fax:703-573-7098

Norton
756 Park Avenue, N.W.
Norton, VA 24273
Mail to: 756 Park Avenue, N.W.
P.O. Box 1300
Norton, VA 24273
Phone: 276-679-4925
Fax: 276-679-4929

Richmond
507 East Franklin Street
Richmond, VA 23219
Phone: 804-771-2221
Fax: 804-771-8313

Roanoke
3140 Chaparral Drive
Building C, Suite 101
Roanoke, VA 24018
Phone: 540-772-4236
Fax: 540-772-6870

Washington, D.C.
248 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363

Toll Free Number
1-866-507-1570

SheetAnchor on December 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM

You real americans need to stop whining! You guys lost – BADLY, in 06 and 08. Your opinions dont matter. Your america is long gone.

Enjoy!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Your opinion doesn’t matter either: YOU voted for C-Span cameras and an end to the status quo/special interest, and change in washington. YOU voted for a man who the world would adore. YOU voted for an end to all the pork spending. Obama’s Democrats are NOT listening to YOU.

YOU get ZERO! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

TN Mom on December 20, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Off to the rally I go. We are meeting a pastor & his wife/friends down there. Please keep us in your prayers, esp. that I’ll keep my big mouth shut to counter-protesters.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 2:02 PM

FYI to anyone attending the rally, I am wearing a London Fog jacket, blue jeans and denim shirt, white sneakers and a dark blue scarf with an American Flag. Come say hello.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM

You’ll have to let us know how Governor Huckabee’s speech was this afternoon.

Here is a site you might be interested in.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 2:13 PM

You real americans need to stop whining! You guys lost – BADLY, in 06 and 08. Your opinions dont matter. Your america is long gone.

Enjoy!

simplesimon on December 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Go away you little puke, and take a freshman course in English composition . . . it may help you cover up your blatant stupidity.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

From Sen. Cornyn’s facebook:

“Deb Kunz Baxter: Senator, you stated in earlier post when I challenged you and Kay to do the following and said you hadn’t pulled out all your tactics/armor yet. What are you gonna do now to stop this?

* Demand that all (ethical) tactics be used to defeat this health care bill
* Demand that the bill and all amendments be read
* Raise Constitutional points of order when necessary which require debate… … See More
* Object to all motions for unanimous consent related to health care
* Force quorum calls when 51 Democrats are not present on the Senate floor
* Demand roll call votes on every motion where possible”

5 hours ago · ReportJohn Cornyn We will do all of this but with only 40 Senators, it is increasingly unlikely we can stop it between now and Christmas unless a Democrat defects.”

Do you think they’ll actually do this?

Vera on December 20, 2009 at 2:30 PM

I think you are right to hold Nelson in contempt. I would not think this if I believed his reluctance to sign on was genuine, but it isn’t/wasn’t. All it would have taken was one brave Democrat to stand up to this impossible health care bill, just one. The others who might be genuinely opposed would then have felt free to vote their convictions. I’m wondering if Nelson will show any smidgen of guilt for his behavior. I’m guessing not. Hope all those Medicaid recipients in Nebraska turn out to vote for him next time. He’s going to need them.

jeanie on December 20, 2009 at 2:32 PM

This puts me in mind of Dick Swett some years ago in NH. This Dem Rep campaigned on never agreeing to gun control, not ever, no how!!! So, being a Democrat he ignored his promise and voted for gun control. Next election he was shot dow by a huge margin(and so was his wife later one). The voters hate a liar more than a crook I think. Anyway he was done in politics and has never been heard from in this genre again.

jeanie on December 20, 2009 at 2:41 PM

“If you don’t [fight], this program, I promise you, will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow. And behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country… until one day as Norman Thomas said, we will awake to find that we have socialism. And if you don’t do this and if I don’t do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”

-Ronald Reagan

Blacksmith8 on December 20, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Whore, thy name is Nelson!!

flytier on December 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM

From Sen. Cornyn’s facebook:

“Deb Kunz Baxter: Senator, you stated in earlier post when I challenged you and Kay to do the following and said you hadn’t pulled out all your tactics/armor yet. What are you gonna do now to stop this?

* Demand that all (ethical) tactics be used to defeat this health care bill
* Demand that the bill and all amendments be read
* Raise Constitutional points of order when necessary which require debate… … See More
* Object to all motions for unanimous consent related to health care
* Force quorum calls when 51 Democrats are not present on the Senate floor
* Demand roll call votes on every motion where possible”

5 hours ago · ReportJohn Cornyn We will do all of this but with only 40 Senators, it is increasingly unlikely we can stop it between now and Christmas unless a Democrat defects.”

Do you think they’ll actually do this?

Vera on December 20, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Senator Cornyn is one of my senators and based on his past actions I believe he will do anything and everything possible to delay this socialist aberration. Unfortunately he’s outnumbered by the left and the options are limited.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM

If the bill somehow passes with the Ben Nelson amendment… It seems to me that portion if not all of the bill should go straight to the Supreme Court. What does Ben(edict Arnold) Nelson do then?

Dasher on December 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Here’s hoping for more democrat early retirements! Tennessee Democrats John Tanner & Bart Gordon (US Congress) chose an early retirement instead of facing an embarrassing and expensive defeat.

TN Mom on December 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

I didn’t even think about those. I just counted the dims up for re-election, starting at 41.

And we’d probably need 53 at least, to cover the two “ladies” from Maine.

darwin-t on December 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Ben Nelson is now trying to blame his vote on our Governor.

OMAHA, Neb. – U.S. Sen. Ben Nelson says it was the concern of Nebraska’s Republican governor over expanded Medicaid costs in the proposed Senate health care overhaul bill that led to a compromise to cover his home state’s estimated $45 million share over a decade.

But Gov. Dave Heineman expressed anything but gratitude Sunday, saying he had nothing to do with the compromise and calling the overhaul bill “bad news for Nebraska.”

That criticism is only a taste of what Nelson has received since announcing Saturday that he would become the 60th vote needed to advance the landmark legislation.

Many Nebraskans and abortion foes who had counted on Nelson to take a hard line against the bill are disappointed — even angry — by his compromise.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Hell yes, I’m “angry” the man essentially held the unborn hostage so he could get a sweetheart deal.

Vera on December 20, 2009 at 5:01 PM

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Hopefully Gov. Heineman is leaning hard on Senator Nelson to change his vote and hopefully they both are realizing that if Nebraska, La and the 3 counties in Florida are the only ones to get extra medicaid money that that is where the patient dumping of medicaid patients will occur.

Nebraska- get ready for Il, Mich and NY to send their Medicaid folks to you.

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM

I am so disgusted and disturbed by the traitorous behavior of our elected officials, I have found myself feeling very helpless. Then I remembered this video a Mormon friend of mine showed me. It’s on YouTube and is 25 minutes long. It is a great Christmas message and doesn’t preach one iota of their doctrine.

Mr. Krueger’s Christmas

If you have never seen it, give it 10 minutes and I guarantee you that you’ll finish it. If you have seen it, you’ll understand how I am going to get through the rest of my life living under socialist rule.

csdeven on December 20, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I just realized that we will soon be the “Socialist States of America”. All of the glory, pride, patriotism and courage of the “United States of America” will soon be just a proud memory of the past. It’s truly a sad time for the Republic and its people.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Every governor should be raising h*ll over this shift of the population to Medicaid via the assorted Dem “health” care bills. The Dems have played a shell game in order to “bend the cost-curve down.” They have transferred the burden of cost to the states, which will have to raise taxation.

onlineanalyst on December 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

any word on that Omaha revolt today?

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM

any word on that Omaha revolt today?

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I just got back from the rally. There were 1800 of us, and I saw about six people holding signs of support for Benedict Arnold Nelson. There were two chartered buses full, one from KS & one from MO. We were mostly a 55+ crowd, but there were some younger people there too.
(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 20, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Nelson has created a monster. Governor Heineman is a good man and I am sure he contacted Ben Nelson about this article.

onlineanalyst on December 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I heard Governor Heineman speak at a dinner several weeks ago and he said the same thing about the cost burden of the health plan being transferred to the states. The states are going to be the losers, but the Democrats and the adminstration don’t care…..just get this health scam passed.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 5:55 PM

thanks for the update and thank you for going to demonstrate against SEN Nelson. I pray that all Nebraskans stand up against this man and his efforts.

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 5:55 PM

We started with the Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem, and Shane Osborn the state treasurer was the first speaker, followed by Mike Foley, the state auditor. State Sen. Tom Carlson of Dist. 38 Holdredge read a letter from another state senator (I forgot his name)and I think he was followed by Congressman Jeff Fortenberry.
(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 5:58 PM

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Good, you’ll have to tell us what Governor Huckabee said at the rally.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Rep. Fortenberry introduced some veterans to whom we gave a standing ovation, with lengthy and thunderous applause, and then he introduced Gov. Huckabee. I have ben sort of lukewarm to Huckabee until today, but after hearing him speak and evaluating him up close and in person (We sat fifth row from the front in the center, directly in front of the podium) my estimation of this good and sincere Christian patriot has shot waaaay up. The central theme that ran through the whole rally was the sanctity of life, along with reckless fiscal irresponsibility.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:05 PM

The Gov. reminded us who our elected officials work for and that we can send them packing if they refuse to work for us. He also cited the 1976 congress that had 60 senators and two to one dems over republicans in the house, and how the Hyde Bill still passed with the very liberal Tip O’Neil voting for it. He asked us to urge our family and friends in the other key states to melt the phones and emails of Reps & Senators. He really knows how to work the crowd and get fired-up people even more fired up. There was a sprinkling of people of color in the crowd.
(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:11 PM

The Governor also brought up our founding fathers and their ultimate bravery in signing the Declaration of Independence, and how All men are created equal ties into the sanctity of life. He said that if we teach our children that abortion is OK, and that some lives are more valuable than others, that our kids will not value our lives when we are old and feeble and they are in charge, and they will feel free to dispatch us.

(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM

He mentioned that he and his wife are friends of our last three governors, Benedict Arnold Nelson, esp. Sen. Mike Johanns, and Dave Heineman. I believe Gov. Huckabee also feels personally betrayed by Nelson over this vote. He noted the similarity between Nebraskans and Arkansans in our morals and values. As he cited his sanctity of life statements, he reminded us that it is a moral and not a political stand, and that abortion is murder.
(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:20 PM

“Why is it that no one is asking Senator Jim Webb of Virginia, who has said nothing about his vote, anything?”

’cause he is still deciding on his price

enginemike on December 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM

He did mention that the founding fathers didn’t quite get it right in the All men are created equal by excluding African Americans and women, but that was fixed later. He is a very warm and sincere man of God. I must say, I was very impressed. When I heard yesterday that he was to be keynote speaker, I was not very enthusiastic about attending, but decided to go only to oppose Benedict Arnold Nelson. I am always pleased to re-evaluate my opinion of someone I harbor negative feelings towards and find I like them after all. This good man loves God, Country, and us, his fellow patriots. You could tell he enjoyed himself immensely.

I just saw myself in the crowd on KETV7.
(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:32 PM

“Why is it that no one is asking Senator Jim Webb of Virginia, who has said nothing about his vote, anything?”

’cause he is still deciding on his price

enginemike on December 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM

You could be correct. Webb once held my respect but he, like Nelson, has obviously been altered by crooked, corrupt politics. The pot of swill we call Washington D.C. frequently rots the minds and souls of once honorable men and women. We’ll soon know what his game is.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 6:36 PM

from NRO’s “Doctor, Doctor”:

Coburn: ‘Full Nelson’ [Robert Costa]

From WSJ.com:

Republicans said the legislation would impose big costs on government and taxpayers, and they denounced Mr. Nelson. Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.), speaking on the Senate floor Sunday as the chamber spent a third weekend in a row tackling health care, called the Nebraska Democrat’s deal the “full Nelson.” He added, “This process is not legislation, this process is corruption…It’s a shame the only way we can come to a consensus in this country is to buy votes.”

The Senate health bill, if it passes, will have to be reconciled with the House version approved 220-215 on Nov. 7. The House is likely to do most of the reconciling because Mr. Reid, after battling for weeks to get the bare minimum of votes needed for passage, has little room to maneuver.

onlineanalyst on December 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM

I think US Representative Lee Terry (NE-3)followed the governor, and then poor Julie Schmit-Albin, Executive director, Nebraska Right to Life had to apologize to us for her past support of Benedict Arnold Nelson, and how she wept during Mass this morning. She tried and tried to get through to the traitor all week and couldn’t, and then he called her hours before the announcement to tell her he had caved in, and refused to let her patch through the National Right to Life director on a conference call. I guess Nelson was in Dingy Harry’s suite of offices all night with Sen. Ma’am Boxer Sen. Patty “Osama Mama” Murray, and that after he said he’d cave in, he went over and hugged the repulsive pro-slaughter of the innocents heinous wenches.

(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Again, from NRO’s “Doctor, Doctor”…This time re Huckabee. (I’m not too crazy about H, but he must have hit the right notes at the rally.)

Huckabee Dogs Nelson [Robert Costa]

From Omaha.com:

The health-care reform bill expected to win passage in the U.S. Senate is an attack on “liberty” in America, said Mike Huckabee, a former Republican presidential candidate from Arkansas.

Huckabee was the star of the show at an Omaha rally held Sunday against President Obama’s health care initiative. He opposes the mandate in the bill that will require all Americans to have insurance.

Huckabee said in an interview prior to the rally that the bill requires Americans to “put their liberty in the hands of government.”

About a 1,000 people packed the lower level of the Omaha Music Hall for the rally. Many of them said they came to show their disappointment with Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson, who is providing Obama the crucial 60th vote to get the bill passed.

They booed heartily whenever Nelson’s name was mentioned.

onlineanalyst on December 20, 2009 at 6:49 PM

I think after Lee Terry, the national Atlanta tea party director spoke and she urged us to melt the phones and emails. When someone in the crowed shouted out that the phones are full, she said get in the car and drive to the local offices and tell the staff to tell Benedict to vote no. Good idea, I am going to do just that. All in all, it was a very good rally.

I may have gotten the speakers out of order as I did not take notes. There were givebentheboot.com people holding big yellow signs as we exited the Music Hall, and we signed petitions going to Benedict before or after the rally.

(cont)

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:52 PM

This was a handout we got at the rally:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: December 16, 2009
Contact: Greg Boyle, (402) 350-2476

Taking America Back – National Sovereignty Symposium
Judge Andrew P Napolitano, Keynote Speaker

Once again, Americans must stand up and fight for the preservation of Liberty and Freedom. Taking America Back, the National Sovereignty Symposium, will be held on January 16, 2010, at The Qwest Center Omaha. The Constitutional Conservative Alliance will be hosting State Representatives from across the nation to educate the public on the powers vested in the states and the people by the Constitution.

Judge Andrew P. Napolitano will be the keynote speaker at the National Sovereignty Symposium. Judge Napolitano, who serves as the senior judicial analyst for Fox News Channel, has been a leader in states’ rights and state sovereignty issues as well as the Constitution. Judge Napolitano has written several books including the New York Times best seller, The Constitution in Exile: How the Federal Government Has Seized Power by Rewriting the Supreme Law of the Land. A book signing by Judge Napolitano will be held at the Symposium.

The National Sovereignty Symposium acknowledges the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. The Tenth Amendment simply states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Thomas Paine wrote, “These are the times that try men’s souls.” What will history write of this generation’s response to the current assault on personal liberty and freedom?

Registration is being taken online at the CCA’s website, http://www.cca1789.com, or call Symposium organizer, Greg Boyle, at 402-350-2476 for more information.

The Constitutional Conservative Alliance is working to unite states in the assertion of their constitutional right to sovereignty. We strive to advance all constitutional rights and privileges adopted by our founding fathers in 1787. The Constitutional Conservative Alliance serves as a forum for the study and exploration of state and individual sovereignty issues, focusing primarily on the decentralization of federal government power. For more information, visit http://www.cca1789.com.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Something from OpEd News to consider…

The other day, Dylan Rattigan on MSNBC was giving Rep. Wassersman-Schulz (D-Fl) a hard time about the health care package. He disputed her contention the bill was a big win for consumers. He wanted to know why the stock prices for Big Insurers (e.g.m, Aetna, Cigna, Wellpoint, United Health) shot up if this was such a big loss for them.

Unfortunately, he was so exercised on the point, he didn’t give his guest a chance to address the question. This is an important question. Asked another way, the question is “Why are stocks in this sector at a 52-week high if this legislation is such a blow to their profits?

That’s worth investigating. Follow the money and things get real clear real fast.

If you look at the S&P 500, a broad indicator of the market, you see it is fluctuating but largely unchanged. However, all the health insurers took a dump towards the end of September, for an average loss of about 12%. They stay down throughout October. However, they start rising in November to reverse those losses. Last week they all moved again, this time to gain over the S&P. In sum, these stocks have posted an average 10% gain, after making up their losses. That’s about a 20% swing in value. That’s a big move compared to the overall market.

It’s true these stocks are more volatile than the overall index. That’s the point of the index, to smooth out volatility. The fact these stocks all move in concert shows they are being affected by the same forces. That’s not surprising. Stocks in the same sector should be responding in roughly similar ways to the same news. The interesting point is when they made their moves. That reflects the conversation of the time.

Where were we in mid-September?

On September 9, Obama had made a clear pitch for the public option in his speech on health care. This resonated with the public. A CBS poll from that time showed growing public suport for a public option. The reason people argue for a public option is to provide a competitive break on run away prices. That would not be good for profits. The stocks took a dump.

Where were we in early November?

Lieberman had become the center of attention. He made it clear he wasn’t supporting a public option. Of course, it was not just Joe blowing smoke that moved the stocks. Even if he did support it, the public option was so diluted it wouldn’t matter. As Ezra Klien noted, the public option at that point wouldn’t be available to 90% of the people in states that allowed it. Nor would it have any pricing leverage over private competitors. Basically it was going to be hollow. Safe in the knowledge their profits weren’t going to get hammered, the stocks started to rise.

What happened in early December?

On December 10th, Pelosi caved on the public option. That followed the death of expanded Medicare. That killed any hope the House would force this back on track. In other words, the profits of these companies are going to be just fine. Once again, stock values jumped.

The bottom line: During those different time points a lot of ink got spilled, pixels got burned, and bytes bit it. But for all the noise, one thing is clear. If you want to know how the insurance companies are viewing the legislation, just follow their stock prices. The second image is a comparison for the same stocks over the last year. See the cliff they all fell off towards the end of February? That was their response to Obama’s February 24 speech in front of a joint session of congress where he announced health care reform was a central pillar of his recovery strategy.

IT’S ALL ABOUT FOLLOWING THE MONEY TRAIL!

BobAnthony on December 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM

http://www.meetup.com/912-iowa/

Another handout was this card for a Council Bluffs, IA group.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Judge Andrew P Napolitano, Keynote Speaker

JUDGE NAPOLITANO FTW!

BobAnthony on December 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM

JUDGE NAPOLITANO FTW!

I am also going to that event.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Apparently Ben Nelson assumes that Nebraskans enjoy being bought and paid for like he does.

Maybe he should stand up in front of them and say “See, I stiffed the rest of America, and got you cheaper healthcare so you will re-elect me! Don’t I just make you so proud?!!”

Goodbye Ben, you lumbering dinosaur. Your asteroid is coming, and you can’t even recognize it much less stop it.

drunyan8315 on December 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM

You could be correct. Webb once held my respect but he, like Nelson, has obviously been altered by crooked, corrupt politics. The pot of swill we call Washington D.C. frequently rots the minds and souls of once honorable men and women. We’ll soon know what his game is.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Webb was never praise-worthy. He resorted to calling George Allen a racist by the flimsiest of excuses to get the job. He has been a rat bastard traitor from the very beginning. A comment I shared with the bastard earlier this evening. I hope his entire family dies because of the healthcare bill he is voting for tonight and, while in a coma, I hope he ends up being sexually violated in the same manner as one of the characters in his pornographic books.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM

If there was true justice in this nation in the year 2009, we would see Reid and a number of his fellow travelers served with arrest warrants as they try to enter the senate chambers tomorrow morning.

Considering not only the scope of the Osama Obama Care bill (what we know of it, anyway), the secrecy with which it has been drawn up, the blatant lies spoken on its behalf and the outright bribery used to win its passage, those responsible should be facing imprisonment. It seems impossible that laws have not been broken, not the least of which are the laws prohibiting treason: does not destroying the nation’s economy give “aid and comfort” to our enemies?

At a minimum, there are 60 senators, 200+ representatives and a president who have violated their oaths of office, in that they are doing the exact opposite of “preserving and defending” the Constitution.

That’s perjury.

MrScribbler on December 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM

DAMN!!!! I FORGOT PETE RICKETTS, HE introduced the governor.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Slightly OT but relevant.

The OPM has shut down the federal agencies in DC tomorrow due to the storm. Driving around this afternoon, it was a valid decision although laced with irony from an administration headed by a man who attacked DC public schools for shutting down due to snow last winter.

Why is pushing through healthcare in the Senate so important to convene the Senate on Monday when the region’s entire federal workforce in the region is given an excused absence? I don’t really care if Harry Reid or Ben Nelson meets death in an ice-slickened road but I do care about the staffers who will be forced to get to work so the Dems can push through this legislation.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:13 PM

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM

I’ll have to watch KETV7 tonight at 10:00. Thank you for your update on the rally. I found the entire article where Nelson is blaming Governor Heineman for his Nebraska Nanny-State vote.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM

I’ll have to watch KETV7 tonight at 10:00. Thank you for your update on the rally. I found the entire article where Nelson is blaming Governor Heineman for his Nebraska Nanny-State vote.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Mary Landrieu had ample reason to believe that Louisianans would forego good legislation for $300B in bribes. I frankly, had a higher opinion of Nebraskans but apparently I was mistaken if Ben Nelson can so easily be bought.

BTW, Why the f**k should I be expected to pay the freight for Nebraska and Louisiana on healthcare just to get Nelson and Landrieu onboard? It offends me that the bribes are this obvious. Voters in those states should be outraged as well but I suspect the bribes will work.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Your last question was asked in the senate today. The Democrats, corrupt to the end, stonewalled it.

MrScribbler on December 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM

I’ll have to watch KETV7 tonight at 10:00. Thank you for your update on the rally. I found the entire article where Nelson is blaming Governor Heineman for his Nebraska Nanny-State vote.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Apparently, your good Senator is quite proud of what he has done for his constituents.

F*ck the rest of us, though…

ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Voters in those states should be outraged as well but I suspect the bribes will work.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Believe me, we are even more outraged, furious and righteously indignant at these handouts than you are. We believe in paying our own way and living within our means here. We have Heartland values and a strong work ethic.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:30 PM

F*ck the rest of us, though…

ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM

We are all being treated like Mrs. Obama and the people in Nebraska could care less. They are getting theirs thanks to a rat bastard traitor who pretended it was all about abortion to cut a more lucrative deal than Mary Landrieu cut.

I knew from the beginning that Nelson wasn’t serious. I can only hope at this point that his constituents give it to him with both barrels. I’m speaking figuratively but am so angry that the literal interpretation wouldn’t make me upset either.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:33 PM

ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM

As was stated at the rally today, “We here in NE expect our elected officials to recognize pork when they see it.”

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Nelson’s attempt to blame the governor of Nebraska for his own cowardly, self serving act was despicable but that’s how wormy cowards behave. It’s unfortunate that Nebraska cannot have a recall election and throw the bum immediately.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM

The Nebraska Appleseed Center for Law in the Public Interest, which advocates for the poor, losers who won’t work praised Nelson’s decision and urged people to thank him.

The Nebraska Democratic Party chairman called Nelson’s decision “courageous” dangerous and socialist and dismissed Republican criticism of it.

“Whatever he did, they would be critical,” Vic Covalt said. “They have no program and they have nothing to offer us other than more of the same.”

Fcuk these commie a$$holes.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Nelson’s attempt to blame the governor of Nebraska for his own cowardly, self serving act was despicable but that’s how wormy cowards behave. It’s unfortunate that Nebraska cannot have a recall election and throw the bum immediately.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM

They won’t do crap. They won’t call Nelson’s office and express their outrage nor will they move to get rid of the rat bastard traitor despite the fact that abortion was only a red herring to cut a better deal for Nelson and his political interests.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:45 PM

It’s unfortunate that Nebraska cannot have a recall election and throw the bum immediately.

rplat on December 20, 2009 at 7:38 PM

67% of us would do just that, although I suspect the numbers may be even higher.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM

As was stated at the rally today, “We here in NE expect our elected officials to recognize pork when they see it.”

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM

You all are supposed to recognize it and laud Nelson for his actions. The spin on Fox News was that this bribery was, in fact, unprecedented transparency because the bribes were this obvious as opposed to being hidden in the legislation.

Allow me to go on the record as a taxpayer that I’m pissed off beyond belief that I’m expected to pay for your healthcare in order to get your Senator’s vote. I hope they do close your AFB!

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:48 PM

They won’t do crap. They won’t call Nelson’s office and express their outrage nor will they move to get rid of the rat bastard traitor despite the fact that abortion was only a red herring to cut a better deal for Nelson and his political interests.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Sir, you are wrong. Those of us who attended the rally today did do something. I cxl’d a very long-standing and important Christmas commitment today to attend the rally. Please don’t tar all Nebraskans with your broad brush.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM

It offends me that the bribes are this obvious. Voters in those states should be outraged as well but I suspect the bribes will work
highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Apparently, your good Senator is quite proud of what he has done for his constituents.
ladyingray on December 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM

We don’t like this any more than you do. Ben Nelson will start hearing the anger when he comes slinking home after his vote on Christmas Eve. His phones were full early yesterday morning so he and his staff have an idea how mad we are here in Nebraska. I will continue to call his offices here in Nebraska and D.C. and I am sure the other Nebraska posters here at HotAir will too.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I am driving over to his office in the morning to raise holy hell. I am practically apoplectic over his cave-in.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:52 PM

I am sure his office is going to get a few visits tomorrow. You might tell them that he sold his soul and Nebraska to the devil.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 8:00 PM

So does the rest of the USA now foot the bill for Nebraska just because their Senator dragged his feet to assuage his “moral conscience?”

Bull Shiite.

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 8:00 PM

I will be over there every day this week. Please pray I can keep my cool as I don’t need to spend Christmas in jail.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Sir, you are wrong. Those of us who attended the rally today did do something. I cxl’d a very long-standing and important Christmas commitment today to attend the rally. Please don’t tar all Nebraskans with your broad brush.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM

I have full respect for the people of Nebraska but I will maintain that all the fuss and fury amounts to nothing. Your rally was meaningless in swaying public debate as will be your dive to his office in the morning. I appreciate the efforts but your Senator made his deal and that will not change.

The vast majority of the American public does not want Obamacare. My own Senators (Webb & Warner) have all but ignored the public when making vague statements about the need for reform as the reasons for their voting with the party instead of doing the will of the American public. They will vote along with your Quisling for state seizure of one-sixth of the economy.

I don’t like being this angry over anything but I am that angry over this vote. It is a pure partisan deal and your Senator clearly was able to be bribed. Don’t expect me to celebrate the citizens of your state when you put this traitor into office.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM

to assuage his “moral conscience?”

Bull Shiite.

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM

What moral conscience?????????
He has a black soul. He is a fcuking liar, a traitor and a thief.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM

We don’t like this any more than you do. Ben Nelson will start hearing the anger when he comes slinking home after his vote on Christmas Eve. His phones were full early yesterday morning so he and his staff have an idea how mad we are here in Nebraska. I will continue to call his offices here in Nebraska and D.C. and I am sure the other Nebraska posters here at HotAir will too.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM

And all that anger is meaningless to Nelson and his staff. He cut his deal so STFU and celebrate the deal he got for you all.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM

So does the rest of the USA now foot the bill for Nebraska just because their Senator dragged his feet to assuage his “moral conscience?”

ted c on December 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Pretty much.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Don’t expect me to celebrate the citizens of your state when you put this traitor into office.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I didn’t vote for him. I voted for Pete Ricketts when he was reelected, and before that I voted against Feinstein or Boxer since I was living in California.

I worked my ass off to try and get Ricketts elected.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I hope Nebraska enjoys the spoils their whore brought home at the expense of the nation. Cornhucksters, Cornhookers

clnurnberg on December 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I don’t like being this angry over anything but I am that angry over this vote. It is a pure partisan deal and your Senator clearly was able to be bribed. Don’t expect me to celebrate the citizens of your state when you put this traitor into office.

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Hey this is out of line. I am from Minnesota and I didn’t put Franken or Klobuchar in office – I did everything I could to keep them out. I don’t expect people to celebrate my Senators but keep the attacks on them – not on me and the people who DIDN’T vote for them.

I understand people are angry – I’m furious but the last thing we should be doing is turning on each other.

gophergirl on December 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM

A group called Americans for Prosperity of Nebraska held a rally Sunday afternoon before a crowd of about 1,800 at the Omaha Music Hall at which former GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee spoke. Nebraska Republican Rep. Lee Terry also spoke in an effort to persuade Nelson to change his mind.

Huckabee said those unhappy with the health care overhaul set to be pushed through the Senate should express their displeasure at the polls next November.

Huckabee said the vote on health care reform is a pivotal moment in American history and he took Nelson to task for deciding to support the measure.

Huckabee went so far as to compare Nelson to Judas in the biblical story of Jesus’ betrayal. He said the last time a deal like the one Nelson negotiated with Democratic leaders was when “30 pieces of silver exchanged hands.”

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM

I hope Nebraska enjoys the spoils their whore brought home at the expense of the nation. Cornhucksters, Cornhookers

clnurnberg on December 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Again out of line – Nebraskans didn’t ask for this, in fact they wanted him to vote no including their Governor.

Keep the attacks on Nelson.

gophergirl on December 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM

I’m sure the dems of Nebraska are happy as hell and think they can get the rest to swallow the bait

clnurnberg on December 20, 2009 at 8:16 PM

highhopes on December 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM

He cut his deal so STFU and celebrate the deal he got for you all.

I also didn’t vote for Nelson and moved from Texas just a few years ago. I have nothing to celebrate and don’t like what Nelson did to this state.

yoda on December 20, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Bought, just like a common street whore.

ultracon on December 20, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Someone far upstream said they put thirty dimes in a bag and mailed them to Benedict Arnold Nelson. I am taking him a velvet bag with a rope with thirty dimes to his Omaha Office. 7602 Pacific St. Ste 205. Omaha, NE 68114. T: (402) 391-3411. F: (402) 391-4725.
I will mail another to his Washington, D.C. Office. 720 Hart Senate Office Building United States Senate Washington, DC 20510. T: 1-202-224-6551. F: 1-202-228-0012.
Thanks, Judas Iscariot Nelson, for the betrayal.

OmahaConservative on December 20, 2009 at 8:21 PM

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