Breaking: Nelson will vote for cloture

posted at 9:47 am on December 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Every man has his price, apparently, and Harry Reid found Ben Nelson’s price for a cloture vote on ObamaCare.  Nelson announced this morning that the language in the manager’s amendment on aborti0n will be enough to secure his support for Reid’s compromise bill, but Think Progress reports on what really sold Nelson — or bought Nelson, depending on your perspective.  First, the Washington Post:

Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), the final Democratic holdout on health care, was prepared to announce to his caucus Saturday morning that he would support the Senate reform bill, clearing the way for final passage by Christmas.

“We’re there,” said Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), as he headed into a special meeting to announce the deal.

Democratic leaders spent days trying to hammer out a deal with Nelson, and worked late Friday night with Nelson on abortion coverage language that had proved the major stumbling block. But Nelson also secured other favors for his home state.

A few favors?  Try a boatload of federal cash:

Under the current merged legislation (the version unveiled on November 18th), the federal government fully finances care for the expanded population for two years and increases its matching funds (known as FMAP) thereafter. Page 98 of the managers amendment specifically identifies Nebraska for higher federal matching funds, fully funding its expansion for an additional year:

‘‘(3) Notwithstanding subsection (b) and paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, the Federal medical assistance percentage otherwise determined under subsection (b) with respect to all or any portion of a fiscal year that begins on or after January 1, 2017, for the State of Nebraska, with respect to amounts expended for newly eligible individuals described in subclause (VIII) of section 1902(a)(10)(A)(i), shall be determined as provided for under subsection (y)(1) (A) (notwithstanding the period provided for in such paragraph)

Subsection (y)(1)(A) refers to page 399 of the original merged Senate legislation which fully funds state Mediciad expansions for the first two years. The manager’s amendment also provides 2.2% increase in FMAP to help states finance their existing Medicaid programs.

That will be worth at least hundreds of millions of dollars in federal cash for Nebraska … for the first three years.  After that, Nebraskans get as screwed as the rest of the country.

And what about that abortion coverage? Nelson caved, as one can read in the published version, via Patriot Room:

Managers Amendment

Scroll down to Section 1303, which uses the same reliance on the “prohibited under HHS rules” dodge as the earlier Senate version, rather than using the language from the Stupak Amendment in the House that explicitly prohibited public money from funding abortions or abortion coverage. If Congress fails to renew the Hyde Amendment for just one year, this language will become moot. This version will lose none of the progressives, because they know they can just kill the Hyde Amendment renewal now to eliminate the problem.

Nelson caved on abortion and sold out for an extra year of federal Medicaid subsidies.


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Here it comes…

blatantblue on December 19, 2009 at 9:49 AM

How does it feel to have the blood of innocent unborn children on your hands, Ben?

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

How can they just pick and choose what states get what and what states have to do while exempting others?

I hope constitutional lawyers are lined up waiting to stop this monstrosity in it’s tracks.

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Bastards!

The whole lot of them.

Aye Chihuahua on December 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Nelson caved on abortion and sold out for an extra year of federal Medicaid subsidies.

Un freaking believable! What a little turd. His state is going to eat him for lunch!

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Attn Fellow Hot Air Nebraskans:
Now is the time to start doing everything in our power to see to it that Benedict Nelson is defeated in 2012.
I’d like to draft Gov. Heineman to oppose him as I can’t think of a more formidable opponent.

OmahaConservative on December 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Baby Killers Rule

bluegrass on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

How does it feel to have the blood of innocent unborn children on your hands, Ben?

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Apparently it feels ok. The green on his hands covers the red.

I’m sure the people of Nebraska are seething.

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Shocking that a dem would sell out for socialism.

Bring on the 2010 elections.

DeweyWins on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

gotta love a democrat…

winston on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

I received a very thoughtful email from Sen. Webb with his concerns about Medicare Advantage and how this Bill would impact Virginia. I guess I was too optimistic about his standing up to this mess. Is there anyone with a spine in that town?

Cindy Munford on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Looks like assisted political suicide is covered under Obamacare.

Kataklysmic on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Is it time for the revolution to begin yet? I’m ready.

Geochelone on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This is heartbreaking.

As Wethal said, blood money.

INC on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Now is the time to start doing everything in our power to see to it that Benedict Nelson is defeated in 2012.
I’d like to draft Gov. Heineman to oppose him as I can’t think of a more formidable opponent.

OmahaConservative on December 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

How about kicking him out now? Is there a procedure for that?

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Hope you enjoyed your career as a Senator, Ben.

See you next election.

CPT. Charles on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

We have to turn this calamity to our advantage by harnessing the outrage and throwing these bums out of office. This bill will not stand. We are now at war.

BottomLine5 on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I’m not surprised.

Now for the backlash.

forest on December 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Bastards..this is what he is….rot in hell you moron senator.

hawkman on December 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Geochelone on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Yup.

I’ll say this about 3rd world countries, they know how to literally clear out their parliaments.

These people are pissing on us.

Rage is building.

artist on December 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Rot in hell, Ben Nelson. Everyone I’ve ever met from Nebraska is a gem, but you are an evil scumbag. May you be locked in a Tristan & Isolde embrace with that other scumbag Harry Reid for eternity.

Western_Civ on December 19, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Liberals are seething pissed over the state-opt out for abortion part.

At this point, we can only hope a liberal in the Senate (Feingold, Sanders, Burris, etc) won’t vote for it because it doesn’t have a public option and it cuts abortion (however temporarily).

Otherwise, it’s a done deal. The Mitch McConnell forced the reading of the manager’s amendment, which will take 7-8 hours from 8:25am EST. And at this point all Repubs have are stalling tactics of forcing amendments and bills to be read.

Enoxo on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

lulz. . . look at the comments on Huffington Post.

They’re JUST as PISSED as we are.

Notorious GOP on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

with respect to all or any portion of a fiscal year that begins on or after January 1, 2017, for the State of Nebraska,

Laughable.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM

I’ve wondered about the favortism myself. All it takes is an equal protection lawsuit claiming every other state should be treated the same. The states may have different payments, based on local costs and state cost of living, but the coverage one would think would have to be unifrom across the country.

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

So it all depends on Joe Lieberman now?

promachus on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

we knew this was going to happen, but at the very least the final vote and debate will be next year. The fight continues.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Another politician blinded by the mystique of this “historic opportunity”. I hope he wraps himself in that comfort when he’s out in the cold.

sherry on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

lulz. . . look at the comments on Huffington Post.

They’re JUST as PISSED as we are.

Notorious GOP on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

That’s because they’re too damn stupid to know they’ve won.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Harry Reid: Using other people’s money to buy some people’s votes.

Which took more money, the Louisiana Purchase or the Nebraska Purchase?

petefrt on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

How about kicking him out now? Is there a procedure for that?

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Sorry, no recall for federal officeholders.

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Hard to be shocked when a Democrat acts like a Democrat.

Hawkins1701 on December 19, 2009 at 9:56 AM

So it all depends on Joe Lieberman now?

promachus on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Lieberman will vote for the bill. Folks, all the Democrats were going to cave anyway.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Damn, Double Damn.

oldguy on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

by the way Lieberman went home for the weekend.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

When John Thune defeated Dasch-hole in SD I sent money to help Thune win because I lived in CA at the time and knew it would be fruitless to fund Boxer’s opponent.
I hope BlueState HotAir’ians here will help us in NE to send Benedict Nelson home to NE.

OmahaConservative on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

lulz. . . look at the comments on Huffington Post.

They’re JUST as PISSED as we are.

Notorious GOP on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Obama promised to bring people together..

the_nile on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

What will the Nebraska Right to Life say about this?

Nelson is out. How about Bayh and Webb? Why should I even ask, since all these liberals are stupid.

cubachi on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

How about kicking him out now? Is there a procedure for that?

darwin on December 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Yes but it’s not in the rule book.

LOL

artist on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Hey Ben…didn’t you just tell a local radio station that your vote couldn’t be bought?

“YOU LIE!”

Gothguy on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

His state is going to eat him for lunch!
elduende on December 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Big fu**in’ deal; Nelson knows that he is going against a huge majority of Nebraskans and doesn’t care. The ‘rats know they will lose seats all over the place…they don’t care either.

The douchebag left has decided that kicking in the teeth of America is the rule of the day, they have become a ruling class unto themselves and aren’t listening to the people any longer.

Bishop on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

The writers of this made for TV drama still have a few plot twists to explore. This is just the opening two hours of an eight hour mini-series. We’re just beginning to see hints of the second episode.

Skandia Recluse on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Is there anyone with a spine in that town?

Cindy Munford on December 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM

They are all spineless invertebrates; that’s why they get their suits starched, so they can walk upright.

Geochelone on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

What did you expect – integrity from a Senator? Any principles they profess are on a dry erase board for situations just like this.

An easy to read price tag is included for comparison shopping. Discounts for buyers in bulk are available – just as a sales clerk.

Numbuh One on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

What about the CBO numbers? Where the hell are they?

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Okay, so does this mean that Pelosi is going to drop the conference thingy and take what the Senate produces?

gatorfanatic on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

lulz. . . look at the comments on Huffington Post.

They’re JUST as PISSED as we are.

Notorious GOP on December 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM

On on Kos too. Not too often you have the left and the right equally pissed off.

angryed on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Another political whore. Now we know his price.

JammieWearingFool on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Big fu**in’ deal; Nelson knows that he is going against a huge majority of Nebraskans and doesn’t care. The ‘rats know they will lose seats all over the place…they don’t care either.

…..

Zactly.

And the GOP wins in 2010.

Then what?

Relying on them is like relying on Nelson.

artist on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Nelson must go! Get on it Nebraska.

AUINSC on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

The douchebag left has decided that kicking in the teeth of America is the rule of the day, they have become a ruling class unto themselves and aren’t listening to the people any longer.

Bishop on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Plus they’re never ever going to have an opportunity like this to get their Welfare State wet dreams realized.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

skandia,
I agree.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

In today’s Washington, a whore, and a cheap one. “My vote is not for sale” apparently was a lie too, right Senator? You just had to name the price. This farce proves you have no more scruples than any other politician in Washington.

bradley11 on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I hope Nebraska remembers this vote and kicks the bum out in 2012!

joedoe on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

What about the CBO numbers? Where the hell are they?

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

They

don’t

care

about

them.

artist on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

the pug is about to speak live

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

What about the CBO numbers? Where the hell are they?

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

We don’t talk about CBO numbers anymore.

Enoxo on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

by the way Lieberman went home for the weekend.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM

His Sabbath is over tonight. He can fly back tomorrow if he wants. I wouldn’t put it past Harry & Obama to send a military to pick him up if commercial flights are a problem. The big vote is supposed to be early Monday morning, I think.

Of course, one could dream about Joe calling Harry from the safety of CT, and saying he was voting no on cloture….just a dream….

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Nelson caved after a day long session with Schumer. Schmucky, the evil one, delivers.

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/1209/Democrats_reach_deal_on_health_care_.html?showall

rishika on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I’m sick of hearing the crap about how “thoughtful” Webb is. Despite being told by the legislature of his own state that it will cost Virginians hundres of millions in unfunded mandates and the majority of Virginians oppose, he’s still ‘throughfully’ considering it.

If Webb votes for this, Hot Air Virginians need to support Delegate Bob Marshall in 2012. He has sponsored the Virginia Healthcare Freedom Act to basically nullify Obamacare in VA and he’s reliably conservative on other issues.

http://delegatebob.com/

Firefly_76 on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I’m holding out for a little divine providence. The snow’s so bad that Leiberman can’t get back to DC when he tries to leave Connecticut after sundown tonight. Byrd, well, just can’t be there at all.

Oh, well.

TXUS on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Hes on Fox now

theTarCzar on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I think the best analysis of the whole shibboleth can be found here, by sean treande at rcp.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

And the GOP wins in 2010.

Then what?

artist on December 19, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Nothing. I’m pretty pessimistic about it. It would take an overwhelming takeover of Congress by conservatives to reverse this thing. Once it’s enacted, it’s there forever.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

What kind of deal did the guy make? Or, is Rham holding his wife and children hostage?

joedoe on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Harry Reid is going to bribe his way to victory.

SoulGlo on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

How’s Byrd’s health these days – has anyone even seen him in the past several months? McConnell and the rest need to fight this week with everything they’ve got!

PatMac on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

What the hell are the Republicans doing to stop this?

beatcanvas on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Voters from Nebraska will have to get back at Nelson somewhere other than the polls. I don’t think he would have voted this way if he didn’t plan to retire.

Still holding out hope for Jim Webb…

parteagirl on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Lieberman is a POS too.

The left smears his wife and he goes and support this?

Phuq him.

artist on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I hope Nebraska remembers this vote and kicks the bum out in 2012!

joedoe on December 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Trust me. We have long memories; esp. when innocents are slaughtered wholesale at our expense.

OmahaConservative on December 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Looking ahead to the next move …

1) How do Pelosi and Reid reconcile the difference on the abortion issue? Can Stupak shut this thing down in conference?

2) I realize it’s impossible to eliminate entitlement programs once they are up and running. But this one really doesn’t get started until, what, 2014? WHEN Republicans and Conservatives take over the House AND Senate in 2011, can they repeal this monstrosity and return the money to the taxpayers? If that’s a possibility, there’s the #1 plank in the GOP platform next year.

BardMan on December 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

How’s Byrd’s health these days – has anyone even seen him in the past several months? McConnell and the rest need to fight this week with everything they’ve got!

PatMac on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

They wheeled him in for a vote this week.

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Democrats are going to be destroyed next year.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Voters from Nebraska will have to get back at Nelson somewhere other than the polls. I don’t think he would have voted this way if he didn’t plan to retire.

Still holding out hope for Jim Webb…

parteagirl on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

+10

Ambassadorship….

Caper29 on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Nelson had every intention to cave. He was just trying to get as much as he could out of his faux ethics and stallin. Screw him.

Blake on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Scroll down to Section 1303, which uses the same reliance on the “prohibited under HHS rules” dodge as the earlier Senate version, rather than using the language from the Stupak Amendment in the House that explicitly prohibited public money from funding abortions or abortion coverage.

The question then becomes one of will the “Stupak faction” in the House accept this or threaten to kill the bill if the abortion language isn’t restored, thus setting up another intra-party showdown with progressives. This is by no means over, yet.

irishspy on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I called the D.C. switchboard and senator nelson’s mailbox is full. Called back and was told no messages being taken, call back on Monday. All of his other contacts are busy or go to voice mails that are full. I have e-mailed. Are we going to have to march on Washington with torches and pitchforks?

SandyToes on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Swine.

disa on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

these pieces of sh1t need to be driven out of Washington by any means necessary.

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Nebraska has learned the hard way there are NO moderate Democrats.

MaiDee on December 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Once it’s enacted, it’s there forever.

I don’t think so this time. Taxes start immediately, benefits not until 2014. This could take a lot of fatal hits before it’s fully enacted.

parteagirl on December 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

BardMan on December 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

As far as abortion goes, Pelosi has to lean on or bribe enough of Stupak’s group to get them to cave to Harry’s language.

Wethal on December 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

This Nebraskan is ashamed of Ben Nelson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ben (cave-in) Nelson – Wonder what we got for the cave-in?
Hope he has retirement plans, because he won’t be a Senator in 2012.

yoda on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

The governor needs to give Nelson a phone call and talk him out of this.

The Senate is completely ignoring the will of the people.

dogsoldier on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Rush is right…

At the end of the day, a democrat is a democrat.

People had better wake up quickly though when I see global cheers for Chavez and a worldwide movement for communism, I am not encouraged.

PrincipledPilgrim on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

He’s on TV talking about historic. These people are disgusting.

Cindy Munford on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

WHEN Republicans and Conservatives take over the House AND Senate in 2011, can they repeal this monstrosity and return the money to the taxpayers? If that’s a possibility, there’s the #1 plank in the GOP platform next year.

BardMan on December 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM

You’re forgetting Obama will veto. Even if Repubs retake the House and Senate, they won’t have a 2/3 override. I think the only hope of blowing this up is to have so many parts of it scrapped as unconstitutional, and have enough states nullify/block implementation that it would be gutted.

Firefly_76 on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

BardMan,
The taxes on industry would be the easiest to repeal, but the subsidies are all but impossible once people get use to them.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

What the hell are the Republicans doing to stop this?

beatcanvas on December 19, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Ultimately, there’s not a lot they can do.

Democrats are going to be destroyed next year.

rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM

They don’t care. Their handiwork will remain.

ddrintn on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Here’s how it plays out. Senate bill passes, goes to conference, and the public option is put back in. Only 51 Senators are needed to passes the conference bill. So, we get socialized medicine after all. If it can’t die in the Senate, we are all screwed. Maybe Senator Byrd will save us by staying in the hospital.

oldguy on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

This was a banzai charge; they broke through and couldn’t give a flying turd about the losses or the long term effect on the war.

1/6 of our economy will be under the thumb of the retards, criminals and jackas.ses who comprise our government, with the most retarded of them being given supervisory and management roles. People call it ‘DMV Healthcare’ but it will be worse than that, it will be ‘Chicago Trade Union Healthcare’ and if you don’t know what that entails, try doing anything in Chicago outside of a union.

What a go**am disaster this is, and the traitors were bought with a few pieces of silver that came out of our wallets. I hate these people.

Bishop on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

I hope his office is inundated with phone calls this morning.

missl on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

haha, so much for his “principled” stand. what a pathetic joke these people are. how do they even look at themselves in the mirror. funny how these democrats stake out such iron-clad firm opposition positions only to do a 180 in a matter of hours or days. Add Mr. Nelson to the list of senators now serving their final term in office.

exceller on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

they don’t give a crap about us. none. its time to finish this farce and make them all pay.

elduende on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

It’s official. We (the right) will now win back the Congress in 2010. Both house and senate by a landslide.
Bye-Bye Jimmy Carter II

AnthonyK on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Watching Nelson on Fox News now. What’s the complaint? He’s doing exactly what you would expect from a democrap.

May he rot in hell with all who vote for this America killer!

donh525 on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Nebraska has learned the hard way there are NO moderate Democrats.

MaiDee on December 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM

My cousin who is a social liberal and registered dem is furious about Benedict’s vote on cloture.

OmahaConservative on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

PrincipledPilgrim on December 19, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Interestingly, the Mises Institute did a worldwide survey of 30,000 people and only 11% supported capitalism. The vast majority of people on this planet appear to want socialism. Its very depressing.

Firefly_76 on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

The democrats own this outrage. Let’s throw them all out.

BottomLine5 on December 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

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