A lesson on government market distortion
posted at 1:00 pm on December 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Joe Windish notes an interesting rebuttal to a science story that appeared in the Times of London that asserted that high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) had specific qualities leading to obesity, and concluded that normal fructose was also a big problem. In fact, Windish links to two rebuttals, the second of which deconstructs the claim that sugars differ much in any form when metabolizing in the human body. In the first case, the Times simply didn’t bother to do its homework:
Yikes. When you see the phrase “scientists have proved,” it’s nearly always an indication that the writer has no idea what he or she is talking about. And superlatives such as “for the first time” should nearly always be avoided.
One of the authors of the study, Kimber Stanhope of the University of California at Davis, weighed in on the Grist message boards. [link] Referencing the Sunday Times, she wrote: “Almost every sentence in the article contained at least one inaccurate statement.” She runs through them one at a time.
Fructose and high-fructose corn syrup aren’t the same. It appears that the writer, Lois Rogers, conflated the two and jumped to all kinds of incorrect conclusions. For example, that the research had anything at all to do with “the obesity epidemic.” It didn’t.
They’re not the same; HFCS is a more concentrated form of the sugar, with much less cost — which makes it all the more ubiquitous. As Big Money notes in its own debunking, the problem of obesity isn’t really the structure of HFCS, but the subsidies that make it dirt cheap:
As I have noted several times, HFCS presents a big problem. But that problem has to do with economics, not (necessarily) biology: HFCS is cheap and efficient to produce and use as an ingredient in all kinds of products—including products that might not contain sugar at all if HFCS didn’t exist. It is cheap in large part because of farm subsidies. As a result, it is ubiquitous and is making a lot of people fat, diabetic, and prone to heart disease. But if sugar were just as ubiquitous, it might be just as blameworthy for many of our worst public health problems as HFCS has become. We just don’t know yet.
The problem here is that by myopically looking for proof that HFCS is some kind of poison, we’re taking attention away from the real problem—the product’s ubiquity, which is largely a result of massive federal subsidies to corn growers. That should be the main target, at least until scientists prove that HFCS is more than marginally worse for us than sugar is. And that might never happen.
In years past, endocrinologists and dietitians would differentiate between various kinds of sugars and starches for diabetics when attempting to control their blood sugars. Now, those efforts focus on the carbohydrate value of the foods instead. Sugars convert in the body into glucose regardless of their original form, whether that is HFCS, natural fructose, starches, or sugar alcohols, the latter of which have been used as sugar substitutes for years. The carb and caloric values differ between these various forms (with HFCS being a relatively high concentrate), but the management of all of them is the same. Namely, diabetics (like myself) have to seriously limit their intake of carbs in all of these forms.
The big problem in the American diet is how artificially inexpensive HFCS is, thanks to federal subsidies. This government intervention in the market made it possible for food producers to replace more expensive sugars with HFCS, and to boost the sugar content at the same time, while lowering the price of the products in which they use it. It created an HFCS bubble that has corn producers converting more of its product from normal food to syrup than the market would have supported, while providing an incentive to manufacturers to load their products with much higher caloric values than they may have done if buying more expensive sugar from other sources. And thanks to the artificially low prices — which all of us make up in taxes eventually — people buy and consume more of it.
It’s yet another story of government intervention creating artificial bubbles and causing unforeseen and unnecessary damage. In this case, the artificial bubble is around too many of our waists. We don’t need more regulation and intervention to address the obesity problem; we can start by eliminating the subsidies that make obesity too easy to accomplish.









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Wait until you see how CommieCare intervention affects the populace; you will look back upon these days with a heavy-hearted wistfulness.
Bishop on December 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Government mandated oatmeal only diet for all American fatties! Otherwise jail or $5000 fine.
Caper29 on December 19, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Another strong recommendation for government intervention in the market place.
Wonder how many people we’ve KILLED through starvation because Congress wants us to put corn in our gas tanks?
GarandFan on December 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Zero. That would be zero.
Proud Rino on December 19, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Great post Ed. Agreed 100%.
Proud Rino on December 19, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Ed, why are those ‘expensive sugars’ expensive in the first place? Aren’t there a large number of third world countries producing sugar for export? Could it be that the other big problem is government regulation of sugar imports?
bayam on December 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Yes, Bayam, that is an excellent point. It’s another market intervention — protectionism, in this case. Good addition to the thread.
I still think sugar would be more expensive in manufacturing process than HFCS regardless, though.
Ed Morrissey on December 19, 2009 at 1:28 PM
You mean the same people that run health care for the Indian Reservations will run health care for all of us. So… let’s see, the demographic group that is one of the most obese in America is the Amerindian. Commie care at its finest.
Mojave Mark on December 19, 2009 at 1:29 PM
I think most liberals aware of the topic would agree with you, but limit their agreement to the case of HFCS. And McCain, that pro-regulation RINO, came closer than any nominee in calling for an end to such subsidies (thus his skipping Iowa). Unfortunately, with a Congress full of delusional Presidential aspirants and the first caucus always in Iowa, this isn’t going to change, even though the vast majority of people versed in the issue totally oppose the subsidies (but not enough to change their vote).
calbear on December 19, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Dammit, It’s not all what one eats; it’s mostly how much one eats and how much time a person spends sitting on their fat asses watching TV.
Pelayo on December 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Our laws and government agencies need a flamethrower taken to them. There are so many bad things in them that I dispair of reform and I get exhausted ineffectualy complaining. Congress is only making things worse. I live in a ‘free’ country, and I doubt I will retain the wealth I have earned or grow old in peace. And frankly many of my fellow citizens are fools, greedy, and or ignorant of how the world works. Adverse forces have taken over the cockpit and are planning our imolation.
Yeah, Obama care’s progress has me bummed.
AnotherOpinion on December 19, 2009 at 1:32 PM
When someone is an airhead (which includes nearly everyone in the media) the terms “scientist” and “wizard” are for all practical purposes synonymous.
logis on December 19, 2009 at 1:32 PM
You can thank the lobbyists from Archer Daniels Midland for getting corn all these subsidies. Really, people, we need to end this sort of thing and let our producers compete on the world market.
Kafir on December 19, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Hey Proud Rino, still wondering if you can post some of the Republican politicians and ideas you actually support.
Dark Eden on December 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM
I love HotAir. It’s a wonder I get any work done at all.
solidaction on December 19, 2009 at 1:40 PM
This is true – HFCS is substantially cheaper to produce than both cane sugar and beet sugar.
Proud Rino on December 19, 2009 at 1:41 PM
If a gatekeeper in this major media channel (Times of London) cannot grasp, or does not want to grasp, or is unwilling to relay her grasp of these concepts to her channel receivers, then what hope do the senders have of evr getting the message to the craven political elites, and that people who vote for them (where voting is allowed) or otherwise arrange for their elevation? Eventually, as in economics, the senders become discouraged and refrain from producing. Such willful ignorance is civilization biggest enemy, in all areas.
curved space on December 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM
NO Ed,
The problem is the junk science used in the 1970′s by the government to make USDA recs on daily intakes which totally rearranged the American diet and promoted carbs at the expense of fat and protien. The rate of obesity and diabeties can be traced to the 1973 law. Passed by liberals for feel good purposes.
unseen on December 19, 2009 at 1:49 PM
but without subsidies they go out of business. so what to do…
tlynch001 on December 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I didn’t know you were diabetic Ed. I was diagnosed with type 2 about six months ago. It’s been a challenge, especially because I like french fries so much.
Mark1971 on December 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM
FIFY..:-)
Caper29 on December 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM
A cursory look at those countries and the populace therein would indicate the underlying currents at play.
TinMan13 on December 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM
This is a topic that affects me personally, and I found the referenced articles confusing. It was impossible to differentiate expert opinion from those of informed (or misled) amateurs, and confusing to read apparently contradicting opinion.
Especially confusing since I have family attending university and the nutrition lecturer specifically condemns high fructose corn syrup.
Skandia Recluse on December 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM
And don’t forget all the preservatives they were forced to put in cold cereals (BHT, i think) that was eventually to be found to cause cancers in rats—–and humans.
Rovin on December 19, 2009 at 2:11 PM
its not just that, the reason corn syrup became such a staple was to to turn all of the excess corn into something useful. The reason we had the surplus in the first place was because of the ludicrous agricultural subsidies that trace their roots back to the New Deal. When I hear lefties and progressives attack “Big Ag” I can only smile and wonder of they understand it was the government that created this Frankenstein.
rob verdi on December 19, 2009 at 2:11 PM
O/T (sort of)
As the reading of the bill continues, this TASK FORCE that’s in the bill is really scary. Government take-over indeed.
Rovin on December 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM
FIFY.
Midas on December 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM
A few things that always get left out on these things about HFCS. For one honey is largely a fructose/glucose mixture. (There’s other sugars in there but the main ones are fructose and glucose.) Also if you’ve ever made simple syrup you were using a fructose/glucose mixture. (That’s why it doesn’t recrystallize. It’s also called an invert sugar.) Finally all of this is nonsense when it comes to soft drinks. You might hear that sucrose is better for you than HFCS. However when you put it in a soft drink the acid attacks the the sucrose and turns in into a fructose/glucose mixture. (Basically if you have an acidic soft drink you’ll have the same sugars if you start with sucrose or HFCS. You just have to let it sit for a bit for the acid to do the conversion.)
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM
The problem is the junk science used in the 1970’s by the government to make USDA recs on daily intakes which totally rearranged the American diet and promoted carbs at the expense of fat and protien. The rate of obesity and diabeties can be traced to the 1973 law. Passed by liberals for feel good purposes.unseen on December 19, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I think so too. The USDA food pyramid that resulted from it has caused immeasurable harm. That was Senator McGovern who chaired that committee. The science “consensus” it was based on was actually a powerful vocal clique of scientists who used cherrypicked data. Just like the global warming guys.
juliesa on December 19, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Oh sorry, that was supposed to be quote, not a strikethrough. I blame Bush for that.
juliesa on December 19, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Additionally, we overpay for sugar in this country due to protectionist import quotas and high tariffs on imported sugar. Not to mention all the taxpayer funded subsidies.
RadClown on December 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I see…so Ed Morrissey would then have no problem with the “fat tax” that was proposed to be levied against soft drinks and fruit juices in New York? Would this not also solve the problem with artificially inexpensive products with high sugar content?
Dilophos on December 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM
A good book on this subject is the Ominvore’s Delimma by Michael Pollan. Corn subsidies are insidious and cause all kinds of nasty unintended consequences, from fattening food to beef full of antibiotics, because cows aren’t naturally intended to eat corn and it makes them sick and vulnerable to infections. But, just like HFCS being cheaper than sucrose, it’s a lot cheaper to fatten a cow in a feedlot on corn than it is to let him live in a pasture full of grass, so that’s what our food industry does.
(FWIW, after reading that book, my wife and I are now trying to limit our cheap beef consumption and buy more expensive grass-fed beef when we do…)
Doubling down on nutrition guidelines is like doubling down on insurance regulation in Obamacare. In both cases you’re flat out ignoring the root cause of the problem – previous regulation – and just exacerbating the whole situation.
Good post, Ed.
johnmackeygreene on December 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM
I hate to again point out that the same can be said of evolution and global warming.
maynila on December 19, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Ed sugar is dirt cheap to process. If it weren’t for the corn subsidies and sugar tariffs, we’d still be using it to sweeten things.
And putting corn in gas tanks has killed people. It makes food more expensive and leads to shortages.
cbconnolly on December 19, 2009 at 2:54 PM
I have a hard time taking him seriously. I mean for one life expectancy is still increasing. (He wants you to think it isn’t so that’s pretty dishonest.) Also he wants you to think food isn’t nutrious and cherry picks 2 nutrients as his example. (The thing he didn’t mention is that vitamin C and phosphate are so common that deficiencies in those 2 compounds is pretty much unheard of in the western world.) After that I pretty much figured he was blantantly biased and had no problem twisting facts to paint a picture of the world that simply doesn’t exist.
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Boy. Wouldn’t it be nice if the free marketers and the vegans could come together to kill that subsidy?
Never happen as long as Iowa is the first caucus state.
Bleeds Blue on December 19, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Where did I say that? Isn’t this entire post a criticism of government interfering in the market? Obviously you don’t see.
Ed Morrissey on December 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Does this ‘life expectancy’ you speak of include infant mortality? Modern civilization is pretty good at saving folks from death and disease, so any statistics that don’t take that into account are suspect. Just because the ‘average’ life expectancy was short doesn’t mean that a healthy well fed human that avoided injury couldn’t live to be at least as old we can today.
Partisan on December 19, 2009 at 4:11 PM
There is a big cost problem at the other end as well. We are not allowed to import sugar at the world price.
burt on December 19, 2009 at 4:18 PM
What has made obesity too easy to accomplish are things like remote control on the Boob Tube, remote control on the garage door, drive trough at the “fast”
foodsfats joints, drive through at the bank, et all.MB4 on December 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM
These are all simplistic explanations for obesity. It’s complicated folks, ALL of the things blithely mentioned as the absolute answer to the question of obesity contribute and more besides. Yes food comes into play (USDA messing with the pyramid BECAUSE of the corn/grain subsidies). Additives come into play as well. Lack of exercise comes into play. Stress definitely comes into play (think Cortisol). Self-image come into play. Loneliness, etc, ad nauseum. If it were as simple as putting down the remote and changing the channel manually then they would have made a workout DVD saying that exact thing. Who among us, readers and bloggers all, can say that in America, in this day and age, we don’t suffer a little bit from stress? And haven’t we taken a beating on the self-image problem seeing that our President and many of our fellow citizens travel the world apologizing for us? Tell someone long enough that they’re something horrible and they will either believe it or give up trying to refute it. It all comes into play. So I guess my solution, at least for our family, is turning my yard into a small farm. Raising food and herb crops as landscape instead of ornamentals which have no value other than they’re purty. And take up bee keeping and see if I can grow the Stevia plant here in the PNW. But I don’t think we need to worry about this obesity problem too much longer. Cap and Tax would make it almost impossible to drive anywhere cheaply. We’ll need to walk or ride bikes which is aerobic. (well, walking is weight bearing as well as aerobic.) And then we can always just shiver ourselves to fitness because our power bills “will have to fundamentally skyrocket.” And if we are still a little heavy why then I’m sure “spas” will be popping up all over the country. I’ll tell you one thing, I’ve just changed my training routing. I’m kicking it up a couple of notches and going straight to the Navy SEAL PT guide. (AVailable at Barnes and Noble) I’m sure it will come handy in the future. You see? This is a good thing! (More Demerol, please. Not a shot! The whole freaking bottle!)
Driefromseattle on December 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM
It also helps that corn syrups are liquid at room temperature, while, obviously, cane and beet sugar isn’t.
That really aids manufacturing. Lots of producers would still likely opt to use syrups rather than sucrose unless the syrups were to become prohibitively expensive.
Techie on December 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Anyone see John Stossel last night with Mackey of Whole Foods? They laid out the market distortions existing now in health care, and the monster distortions that are to come with whatever bill is passed.
They destroyed the opponents’ arguments, IMO.
PattyJ on December 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM
This is also true if you make a simple syrup out of sucrose. (You are basically making the same thing as HFCS but using sucrose as a starting point.) That’s used for sweetening things like ice tea since plain only sucrose doesn’t dissolve well in cold liquids but if you make an invert sugar out of it then it dissolves pretty well.
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Hmm guess my post got lost in the ether. Anyway there’s a couple of things going on. Part of it is that women outlive men. So suppose we take a parent born in 1975 and a child born in 2005. I found some stats and we see the following for men vs. women.
1975 68.8 76.6
2005 75.2 80.4
So what we see here is the following. A girl child could expect to outlive either parent.(Since she could expect to be 80.4) However a son could not expect to outlive his mother. (His life expectancy increased but not enough to catch up with mom, 75.2 vs 76.6.) The second concept is something you caught wind of and it’s listed here.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_09.pdf
Your life expectancy is least at birth and rises the longer you live. So an adult would have a longer life expectancy than a child because of that fact. (It’s a selection bias. If you’re say 35 already you’ve already got past everything that could have killed you as a child and young adult so we’re looking at a bunch of people with that selected out.) Of course in either case the point is he’s trying to convice you that life expectancy is going down when it’s actually going up. (You know what they say about statistics.)
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Oh the first stats come from infoplease if anybody cares.(And take into account deaths in childhood and adjust upward because of that)
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 7:11 PM
HFCS and sugar may be no different regarding their contribution to obesity specifically, but HFCS IS probably much more dangerous. See Gary Taubes, Good Calories, Bad Calories, p. 200 (2007 Alfred A. Knopf).
Whether you agree with his criticisms or not, if you haven’t read his book, then you are not prepared to debate the topic of diet and obesity. The chapter of Taubes’s book dealing with Sugar is facinating. There is a more thorough explanation of the apparent dangers of Advance Glycate End products (left over from the incomplete breadkown of fructose) which stimulate the liver to produce triglycerides.
Also, HFCS technically is both glucose and fructose in a 45 percent 55 percent mixture. I’ve left off the discussion regarding the problems with glucose on insulin, but the short story is that HFCS is the worst of both worlds, because it contains both sugar (stimulates insulin production quickly) and fructose (leaves AGEs which cause damage to the body).
The research on these issues was performed by endocrinologists who have not been swayed by the enormous pressure to adopt the Ancel Keys low fat diet model.
This topic fascinates me because of the parallels between it and Anthroprogenic Global Warming. There is little difference in my mind.
Hot Air is a wonderful place.
An Objectivist on December 19, 2009 at 7:41 PM
DITTO!
Thanks, Ed! Merry Christmas!!
Khun Joe on December 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM
I believe Diet Coke, which I drink quite a bit of even though I am not at all overwieght, is high in fructose and yet I have a low/very low triglyceride level.
MB4 on December 19, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Uh, MB4, DIET Coke does not have fructose (high or low for that matter) in it. It is not first source material, but I’m going to cite you to Google and any of the links that turn up on a search of “diet coke” and “ingredients.”
Diet Coke does have citric acid in it.
An Objectivist on December 19, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Err no it isn’t. Fructose is just another sugar. Diet coke doesn’t have any sugar in it so it doesn’t have fructose either. (Plus the fact if it had fructose it’d have way more calories than it does since sugars have quite a few calories in them.) For those that care sucrose is a combination of fructose and glucose chemically bonded together. What happens when you consume sucrose is your body breaks it apart into it’s components and then your body absorbs the glucose and fructose. With HFCS your body doesn’t need to do that step so theoretically it’s absorbed faster. Still sucrose is already broken down rapidly so it’s not as though your body has to do much to get it. (In the stomach the acid breaks it down. That’s the same process that would happen if you put sucrose in coke for what it’s worth since most soft drinks are very acidic. Anything that isn’t absorbed in the stomach gets broken down by a compound called sucrase in the intestines. Very little gets to the large intestine. If it did you’d get alot of gas like you do when you consume oligosaccharide.) But like I wrote before you’re getting the same thing if you have anything made from simple syrup or honey. (Or if you drink an acidic soft drink.)
Dave_d on December 19, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Heh, I didn’t know you were diabetic Ed. I don’t think the subject ever came up before at HA, though admittedly work arrangements no longer allow me to listen to TEMS.
My deceased grandfather had diabetes, and so did my college roommate. Scariest moment of my college life was when he had too much to drink and didn’t take his insulin, so we needed to keep him awake and give him something sugary until his blood-sugar level normalized.
BKennedy on December 19, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I was thinking it didn’t have fructose in it either but then I found a source that said it did, but now I have found a couple of sources that say it does not. If fructose has much at all in the way of calories it would make sense that diet cola would not have it.
MB4 on December 19, 2009 at 9:02 PM
I don’t buy that HFCS is not worse than sugar, however I do agree that the govt. has made it worse with susidies and distortion of the market.
aikidoka on December 19, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Ed should check his facts-HFCS is actually less concentrated, as it is a mixture of fructose and dextrose. It is not as sweet as pure fructose (about the same as table sugar), but foods usually aren’t sweetened with pure fructose anyway.
oddball on December 19, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Please don’t blame this on Iowa. My mom’s cousin has farmed there for something like 60 years now, and wouldn’t take subsidy if it guaranteed she’d get into heaven. She’s seen markets come and go, and sees the misery of the government dole, and rejects it out of hand.
Some farmers still have their integrity.
tcn on December 19, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Painfully true. It’s a shame we can’t require reporters to earn a living in a technical field for a year or two before they’re allowed to cover the news.
There Goes The Neighborhood on December 19, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I think you’re right about it being a mistake to tie high-fructose corn syrup to obesity and diabetes. And I certainly agree that the focus on carbohydrates and against protein and (limited) fats is wrong and destructive.
But Ed’s points about the market distortion of the corn subsidy still stand. And we can add to that the market distortion of ethanol.
There Goes The Neighborhood on December 19, 2009 at 11:17 PM
So the government distorts the market through corn subsidies, which takes money from taxpayers and gives them to farmers, and the solution is to make the taxpayers who consume the subsidized substance pay extra taxes?
This kind of thought process is very disturbing.
There Goes The Neighborhood on December 19, 2009 at 11:27 PM
C’mon folks. Ya eats and moves. The more ya eats and the less ya moves the fatter ya gets. It’s simple. Demonstrated over ages and generations. Doesn’t much matter. Ya eats more calories than ya move, fat happens.
It is what it is and no amount of verbiage changes the chemistry or the physics. Basic: The goesouta equals the goesinta minus a few losses.
Sh*t. Underlearned and over educated folks are always overspoken. And 2 + 2 must never produce the same result in politics.
Caststeel on December 20, 2009 at 2:27 AM
Well Ed I see now that you are screwed by Uncle Sam in multiple ways (wait: aren’t we all?),
first by this bullocks distortion of the corn market vis a vie HFCS & corn ethanol,
the odd screwing of the “food pyramid” in the 1970s (which always seemed odd to me as a child growing up-I am now 23 years young)
and the upcoming “insurance reform” (yea let’s screw everyone with a long term medical condition out there) from your diabetes.
God be with you brother
SgtSVJones on December 20, 2009 at 2:42 AM
But you can have all the HFCS on it that you want. Just no butter or margarine.
Voyager on December 20, 2009 at 4:21 PM