Non-binding yet somehow “meaningful” agreement reached at Copenhagen
posted at 5:12 pm on December 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
In case you’re wondering why China snubbed Obama this morning, it’s simple. They want to cheat on their emissions caps and he doesn’t want to let them, so he quite reasonably insisted that they join everyone else in submitting to international emissions monitoring. The result: Histrionic Chinese claims of the “huge offense” caused by his speech followed by a walkout.
But now everyone’s back at the table and the world has, at the eleventh hour, been saved. Sort of.
Leaders here concluded a climate change deal on Friday that the Obama administration called “meaningful” but that falls short of even the modest expectations for the summit meeting here…
The accord drops the expected goal of concluding a binding international treaty by the end of 2010, which leaves the implementation of its provisions uncertain. It is likely to undergo many months, perhaps years, of additional negotiation before it emerges in any internationally enforceable form…
The deal came after a dramatic moment in which Mr. Obama burst into a meeting of the Chinese, Indian and Brazilian leaders, according to senior administration officials. Chinese protocol officers noisily protested, and Mr. Obama said he did not want them negotiating in secret. The intrusion led to new talks that cemented key terms of the deal, American officials said.
No details yet about what was decided on international monitoring, but Tapper has this:
“For the first time these emerging economies have agreed to take significant action to combat climate change,” the official said, adding that the leaders of the four nations have agreed to the core components President Obama laid out in his address this morning upon arriving in Denmark –mitigation, transparency, and financing…
Transparency, he defined as having “a mechanism to review whether we are keeping our commitments, and exchange this information in a transparent manner. These measures need not be intrusive, or infringe upon sovereignty. They must, however, ensure that an accord is credible, and that we’re living up to our obligations.” An agreement without that would “be a hollow victory,” he said.
Two possibilities: Either they’re going to impose some sort of inspection process or they’re going to rely on participating nations to self-report on their emissions. If it’s the latter, then China’s numbers should be as reliable as, oh, say, Iran’s reporting on its nuclear program. But then, since this is all non-binding, what does it matter which system it is?
Grahamnesty, who’s backed Obama on cap and trade, said just today that “The only way we’ll be successful in America is for countries like China and India to make an equivalent commitment. We’re not going to unilaterally disarm.” Without a binding treaty and inspections to keep China honest, unilateral disarmament is precisely what this is. (Gordon Brown’s “plan B” agreement, which would have excluded China, would have been an even more egregious example.) No wonder The One was so adamant about monitoring: Without some sort of fig-leaf concession on that, he didn’t have a prayer of getting this through the Senate. Now, thanks to today’s, ahem, “unprecedented breakthrough,” he’s barely got a prayer. Good work, champ.
To see what sort of pathetic spin he’s been reduced to about the non-binding nature of the agreement, check this out. Exit question: How many times this year has he stood up somewhere and insisted that the “time for talking is over”? He said it today about climate change, on July 21 about ObamaCare, and on February 5 about the stimulus. One out of three ain’t bad, I guess. Am I forgetting any others?
Update: Just how broad an agreement is this? Quote: “It’s not clear how many nations — particularly poorer nations who felt shut out of the process — were included in the final deal or how they will react to the announcement.”










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Just words.
YYZ on December 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Binding for us, nonbinding for them…
Realist on December 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM
The next Congress needs to be sure to “un-bind” us from this “non-binding” scam.
JammieWearingFool on December 18, 2009 at 5:15 PM
I know what the agreement will be. The United States will pay a bunch of money to Third World Thugs. That’s the answer to every ill, real or imagined. I want to know when someone is going to get a clue that this cash cow is dry?
Cindy Munford on December 18, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Obama is going to unilaterally slit our economic throat with this…he’s already done it…with the EPA finding that CO2 is a hazardous gas. This is his fig leaf.
AUINSC on December 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
What a joke. Wolfman Blitz managed to stretch this “drama” out for an hour and 15 minutes. Gotta get those non-existent ratings.
LOL! First guy he calls on is an al-Rooters “reporter”.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Remember how we used to cringe when Bush was made to look like a fool by Chavez, Ahmadinejad and the other bad guys while the media danced with glee? For a while I was thinking that poor, ‘ol George couldn’t catch a break no matter what.
Now, with a blizzard delaying Copenhagen’s commuter trains, 20 inches of snow predicted back home in Washington, and Chavez and Castro mouthing off from yet another U.N. podium, it just seems like too much deja vu.
jay12 on December 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
This post read like AGW wasn’t a hoax.
tommylotto on December 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM
He’s surely said that to Michelle “Scowl Face” Obama a few times after doing the 3-minute dance.
SouthernGent on December 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Historical!
jukin on December 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM
I’ll be on my knees tonight thanking God that nothing got signed.
theCork on December 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM
These clowns actually think they can control the weather.
JammieWearingFool on December 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Now that statement right there is priceless.
Your paranoia is showing Mr. President.
Knucklehead on December 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM
And the compact reads; “Pollution is bad. Mm’k?”
Trusser13 on December 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Epic and sad failure, Bozo. Nice try but your agreement is total BS and everyone knows it. You still come away looking like a complete idiot for going.
dogsoldier on December 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Sounds like Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao must have kissed Obama .. before he did sex to him
J_Crater on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
…at least, nothing binding.
theCork on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Maybe McConnel should bust into Reid’s conference room when they’re secretly meeting on Obamacare.
TXUS on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Looks like a second Copenhagen FAIL.
Cuffy Meigs on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Second “reporter” O’bama calls on by name?
al-AP DNC parrot Jennifer Loven.
Guess he doesn’t want to be asked or answer any real questions. Mission Accomplished!
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I guess Harry Reid is the only one allowed to negotiate in secret…
LASue on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
“Unpresidented.”
portlandon on December 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Put it on C-SPAN!
Mark1971 on December 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Whether it be climate change or health insurance reform Obama will gladly take anything. Heck if he found out he could not have apple pie he would take cow pie.
CWforFreedom on December 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
So another case of Obama taking it from his international masters? For once his cowardly subservience works in our favor. Huzzah.
chicagojedi on December 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Non-binding for the world. Obama’s EPA will dictate the reductions of the newly named pollutant. He still can wreck our economy without a treaty.
OldeSCfan on December 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
The time for lying is over, President Empty Hands.
TXUS on December 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Wow! A “non-binding agreement” agreement. Now that will carry the force of law. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
Pinheads!
GarandFan on December 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Fify
CWforFreedom on December 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM
If only he would say that to Nanzi and Harry.
farright on December 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM
So broad that only the US agreed to do it, and all the other nations laughed at Obama.
Enoxo on December 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM
This presser is rapidly deteriorating from a starting point of ZERO.
Obama is fumbling, fumbling, fumbling badly.
jay12 on December 18, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Can anybody tell if the Obama actually wrote another check for this crap?
I keep hearing $100 billion to be raised, helped by the US, but that was before this idiotic agreement was announced.
AUINSC on December 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM
OMG – Obama actually said that he tried to be MODEST in what he had hoped to accomplish prior to his arrival at Copenhagen.
jay12 on December 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Can someone please ask Obama where the $100Billion dollars (in Dr. Evil voice) will come from? Make sure the camera pans to Sasha and Malia’s face when asking.
WashJeff on December 18, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Yeah but the scariest part is what if they actually do figure out a way to do it in the future.
Youngs98 on December 18, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Exactly, all this BS reporting by everyone. The first and only line of every Copenhagen story should be:
Climate Change is a bunch of crap.
uknowmorethanme on December 18, 2009 at 5:25 PM
OT: What happened to Sitemeter?
Connie on December 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Can’t wait to see the very strong statement Dear Leader was able, through his stunning charm and force of personality, to garner.
After all, the world (at least his world) is governed by the aggresive use of words.
TXUS on December 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM
watching Obama’s speech. He is so very weak. That’s good in this instance.
chaswv on December 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
“Gosh Mom! you’re suppose to knock first!”
Obama than told the Chinese,Indian & Brazilian leaders they are not suppose to use the computer or phone with the door closed, and to put their dirty clothes in the laundry hamper. And that dinner would be ready in 10 minutes.
portlandon on December 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Next reporter called by name: Helene Cooper, from Pinch’s rag. She once tried to call her sister from Air Force One.
http://www.nytpick.com/2009/03/helene-cooper-forgets-shes-reporter.html
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Did Teh Won explain to the Chi-Coms how we are going to pay them back after he destroys the American economy – and the Chi-Coms top market?
Kalapana on December 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
China: “We will be very transparent in our emissions control monitoring. At least as transparent as Obama’s administration.”
innominatus on December 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM
How much will it cost us? Everything he does takes us closer to bankruptcy. Now we’re going to borrow money from China so we can then turn around and give to them? How does that work?
ImRight on December 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM
yeah right. even the lefties know Obama is just flapping his gums.
Terrye on December 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM
BHO is disappointed that we do not yet have one-world government. Yikes.
chaswv on December 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM
You can blame that one on Hillary.
COPENHAGEN — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has promised the United States will help raise $100 billion annually by 2020 to assist poor countries in coping with climate change as long as America’s demands for a global warming pledge are met.
Knucklehead on December 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM
You can bet that if the other countries involved agreed to even this meaningless, incomprehensible pile of steaming nothing, Osama Obama hauled out the checkbook and gave ‘em a little something to get started with.
Even when he doesn’t accomplish anything meaningful, the Chicago Jesus always manages to stick it to us.
MrScribbler on December 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
China will have a billion people inhale their pollution, then go to the Pacific shore, and Exhale.
That will be their compliance. Thank heavens for the Russians (what a world, what a world) to scuttle this socialist junk science fundamentalist hoax meeting.
eaglewingz08 on December 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Heh. I guess that’s the reset button,…doing away with the premise we bully the rest of the world.
a capella on December 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM
If you have to say it’s meaningful, you can be sure that it isn’t.
Excellent work. This is the best possible outcome from Copenhagen that the most optimistic could have asked for. I’d love to see the health care debacle turn in to a “meaningful” and nonbinding resolution.
Splunge on December 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
“We’ll see some of you on the plane”.
O’bama to his adoring presstitutes.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
most of the text is completely worked out. not a legally binding agreement. no deal
chaswv on December 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Yeah, I saw that…but that was before this New Improved scam was agreed to…I also saw that our share would be $30 billion a year, I think…but again, no idea whether Obama actually signed the check, so to speak.
AUINSC on December 18, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Western guilt.
No thanks, I don’t need to see any more freedom lost, so the progressives can feel good.
reaganaut on December 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
AP—- The “Quote” link in your update is going to a different piece over at Politico
RushBaby on December 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
The world is teetering on economic collapse and these fools are bleeting about something that is possibly one of the largest hoaxes in recorded history.
GOD help us.
mountainmanbob on December 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Sounds like Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao must have kissed Obama .. before he did sex to him
Obama announces an .. get this .. “meaningful and unprecedented breakthrough.”
In the accord, the official said, “nations will list their actions and stand behind them.” I believe they used to call this the “Honor System” .. “unprecedented“.
What ever happened to “Trust but Verify” ?
J_Crater on December 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
“Better than Nothing!”
-CNN’s Candy Crowley spins madly. She should do ads for Maytag.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Can’t wait to see how lathered up Chris Tingle will get tonight over the courage Obama showed in barging in like a bull on the secret meeting, and on the momentous results he achieved.
He might ought to wear diapers during his show tonight.
TXUS on December 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
FIFY
29Victor on December 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM
If I had time and the resources, I’d like to come up with one of those counters like they use for the national debt.
I’d record every penny pissed away in “developing” nations.
Be neat to see how much was stolen by the UN, how much stayed in the hands of the dictators and ruling classes, and the miniscule amount that actually hit the intended target.
reaganaut on December 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
NONBINDINGRESOLUTION ACCOMPLISHED!
AGW=WMD
29Victor on December 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
It’s just like obamacare. They don’t get what they want, but they never intended to in one fell swoop. They get a framework which will then be built upon for decades. That’s how socialism works in the west. It is not revolution, as it is in the Third World, but evolution. This is why socialism is unstoppable. It just needs the thinnest of wedges to start, and then time provides the hammer. So while the Left pretends to complain about how thin the wedge is, mustaches are twirling. All that they need now is the passage of time.
This is historic, just as obamacare will be.
keep the change on December 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Yeah. What did she imagine that “nothing” would look like, if not like this?
Splunge on December 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Heh.
Buy Danish on December 18, 2009 at 5:34 PM
The whole thing is so ridiculous. All this drama over two degrees Celsius.
RushBaby on December 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Snowjob.
the_nile on December 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM
+1
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What a joke
CWforFreedom on December 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM
I’m pretty sure this is not the end of it. I still have a little money left, so they can’t stop until they get it.
MikeA on December 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Bullcrap!
Does anyone actually believe this nonsense? This reminds me of when Hillary claimed Chelsea was jogging past the World Trade Center when the first plane hit, or when she said she had to dodge live fire. This is a bogus attempt to make it look like Obama came strolling in and saved the world at the last minute. Superhero!
Don’t fear now, Obama’s here to save the day!
Give it a day or so. The other countries involved will claim this never happened.
Gregor on December 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Selling out the american economy over something thats not even a major problem.
sonofdy on December 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Very carefully worded press release, wouldn’t you say?
Rahm made sure the word “meaningful” got in there because that made it headline material and that can be used to make the multi-million dollar trip sound like a SUCCESS!!
In 2012, we’ll see commercials highlighting the SUCCESS of the fraud’s Dopenhagen trip in 2009…guaranteed!
GoldenEagle4444 on December 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM
24 hours of meaningless drivel boiled down to a lede paragraph. I say we take up a collection and send Allah to the next liberal pow-wow to get real reporting for once (also, to get him out of his apartment).
pookysgirl on December 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM
The Green movement and global warming is the new socialism / marxism.
I’ll be saying this tonight at a dinner party; you should too – say it at least thrice this weekend.
father on December 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Very well put. Just look at the incredible/horrific advances made by the European Union over the last 50 years.
Track-A-'Crat on December 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM
If you can’t trust senior administration officials, who can you trust. I mean c’mon…they wouldn’t lie to us, would they?
AUINSC on December 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM
This is pretty ironic, isn’t it, given how Obama and the Dems have orchestrated the ObamaCare? I mean what could possibly be wrong with negotiating the climate deal in secret if it is perfectly okay to “negotiate” the health deal in secret? Who could blame the Chinese for being surprised at Omaba’s objections, given his reliance on the same tactics on health care?
Blaise on December 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM
These people will never stop. They are literally drooling at the control, power and money they can get using the environment as a theft and behavior modification tool … not to mention the population control.
It’s us against the progressives.
darwin on December 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM
One of those ‘current’ language groups likes to come out with a list of overused words each year. I so humbly submit to them the following — unprecedented, unexpected, unexpectedly. Feel free to add your own.
As an aside, Ace has a post up on the Won talking for 10 minutes without a teleprompter at Copenhagen. TOTUS was unavailable for comment.
GnuBreed on December 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM
“You should lecture on transparency” –The Chiese
Obama, oh-so-smart one, see transparency on healthcare, and pretty much all else you do, not what you say. Kids in charge of the world. Cry.
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Chinese, darn it…
Schadenfreude on December 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs
I think this is all that needs to be said.
TQM38a on December 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Obama plans to control the weather like he’s done with the deficit. Average temperatures will rise 50 degrees by the time he leaves office.
JammieWearingFool on December 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Be sure to call it an Organized Religion, too. WIll drive your Leftist friends out of their trees.
Del Dolemonte on December 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Can someone explain this to me. I look at charts all day long and this has been bugging me. If accurate data only goes back 150 years, and the less reliable data goes back to, I’ll be generous, the last ice age 10000 years ago, how can you get an accurate idea of what the temp of the planet thats over 4 billion years old should be? Its like getting an avg stock price from the last 10 seconds of trading.
Daveyardbird on December 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Hmmm…over at Little Green Goat Berries they’re calling it a major something…or other….
BigWyo on December 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Now that the Marxism parade of man’s desire to control the weather is concluding, can we resume the call for a congressional investigation of the manipulated data or do we need to wait for the 112th congress?
Americannodash on December 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Seems to me any agreement we make with these clowns will get us nothing more than another pig in a poke. We need to do something about our climate, but we can’t make every country do something about it. This was a complete waste of time/money/energy, and all it did was leave a huge carbon footprint in Copenhagen. Good thing we didn’t have it in the U.S.
scalleywag on December 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Why?
darwin on December 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Now don’t that make them feel all warm and fuzzy working out a non-binding agreement. Time for their group hug now.
Total waste of time and carbon.
la.rt.wngr on December 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Noqw the diplomats can text their favorite hookers and meet again in Mexico city in July. I am sure Algore can’t attract a snowjob there.
seven on December 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM
“Just words”? HAH. Wait until they’re TELEPROMPTERED to you and then LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, they’ll be EARTHSHAKING MOMENTOUS and first ever and great and wow and um, oh, zzt…
bradley11 on December 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM
They also agreed to set a limit on future temperature increases. No word yet on whether the sun has agreed to this commitment.
If temperatures go up, who gets paid? Mugabe?
hawksruleva on December 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
This is interesting.
darwin on December 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
According to El Presidente, it was time for “… action not talk…” and Obama got what he wanted: an agreement to take action tooooooooo, ahhhhhhhh, talk some more. This is a good outcome and allows time to expose more ClimateGate fraud.
stefano1 on December 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
There are some who say that these are mere words…
hawksruleva on December 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/high-drama-in-copenhagen-per-administration-officials.
deidre on December 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM
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