Merry Christmas: Senate ObamaCare vote may come on December 24th
posted at 4:48 pm on December 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
Pelosi did promise us a special present this year. The bad news: Unless Ben Nelson holds the line, we’re going to wake up to a boulder-sized piece of coal in the stocking from Obama Claus on Christmas morning. The good news: Looks like I won’t have to scrounge for Palin material to keep traffic up on Christmas Eve.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s plan to pass the Senate health care reform bill by Christmas looked increasingly in doubt Wednesday, as Republicans launched an offensive to stall the legislation and Democrats had yet to strike a 60-vote compromise.
Senators privately considered one scenario Wednesday that would have them casting a final vote at 7 p.m. Christmas Eve…
The Christmas deadline is a political target. Democrats want to finish the bill so they have a few weeks to move it through a House-Senate conference committee and deliver it to the president by the State of the Union address in late January or early February. After months of health care dominating their domestic agenda, Democrats are eager to shift to other issues early next year — mainly a focus on creating jobs.
Because Republicans like McConnell and DeMint are promising to delay by every possible means (even Olympia Snowe wants to slow down, believe it or not), the only way to get the bill to the floor by Christmas Eve is to schedule votes at the first possible moment under Senate rules — which means they could be voting on amendments at 3 a.m. this week. That’s how desperate the most transparent administration ever is to get this done before the next round of polls freaks out even more centrists.
Republicans may force Senate clerks to read the entire manager’s amendment but that will not disrupt the schedule. That’s because reading the amendment, which will be shorter than the 2,074-page healthcare bill, is not expected to take more than eight hours.
Reid could offer the manager’s amendment on Saturday morning and keep to his schedule as long as he files cloture sometime before midnight.
Cloture motions need one day to ripen, so the earliest the Senate could vote to end debate on Reid’s manager’s amendment would be 1 a.m. Monday.
Democrats would have to allow 30 hours of post-cloture debate to elapse before voting to approve the manager’s amendment. A second cloture vote to end debate on the initial healthcare bill would happen as early as 7 a.m. Tuesday, followed by another 30 hours of post-cloture debate before a vote to adopt that amendment to the underlying bill.
Even if they pass something, Clyburn reiterated this morning that the House wants a conference on the bill where it plans to “fight very hard” for the public option, so this will drag on past Christmas. The question then will be whether the polls can get so toxic that Blue Dogs will start peeling away even though both chambers will have already passed something. I’m skeptical, but who knows how deep in the toilet the numbers will be after New Year’s?
Oh, and have I mentioned that there’s still no bill yet? Watch Mitch McConnell chew Reid up over that in this morning’s floor speech. Six minutes is long-ish for a YouTube clip, but it gets better towards the end. Quote: “No American who hasn’t been invited into the Majority Leader’s conference room knows what will be in that bill.”
Update: Seriously, no American outside the conference room has seen it. Including Nancy Pelosi.









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slaughter this legislation
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
quoting predator
“if it bleeds, we can kill it”
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
this isn’t legislation, its a conspiracy.
rob verdi on December 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM
It is going to pass
tomas on December 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Was Harry thinking of meeting this weekend? It looks like Copenhagen isn’t the only place with a snowstorm. And Lieberman won’t ride or drive on the Sabbath. He walks from Georgetown.
Wethal on December 17, 2009 at 4:52 PM
To paraphrase Norm MacDonald, “Merry Christmas, America! Hope you like crap!”
teke184 on December 17, 2009 at 4:52 PM
nelson will cave.
jbh45 on December 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but don’t you need a bill in order to vote on it? Please tell me they’re not going to pass a 3000-page, multi-trillion dollar monstrosity that effectively nationalizes 1/6 of our economy and not read it. Did they learn nothing from porkulus?
Doughboy on December 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Democracy is dying in front of us.
Track-A-'Crat on December 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM
That is a pretty tough needle to thread, schedule-wise, even if it wasn’t on a holiday. Add in possible bad weather and the fact that they don’t have anywhere near unanimous agreement on the bill…
Christmas miracles are the best kind.
Missy on December 17, 2009 at 4:55 PM
So it is probably safe to assume that our liberal trolls were always for our Congress voting on bills that have not been written yet?
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM
‘Tis the season to be jolly, fahlahlahlahlah…lahlahlahlah.
jbh45 on December 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM
You could post a video of Jessica Biehl and Jessica Alba wrestling naked in jello and I still wouldn’t log in on Christmas Eve. Ok maybe I would but the resulting scars from the wife beating me wouldn’t be pretty.
Bishop on December 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM
You always pass something you are proud of when no one is looking. It’s a lot like robbing a house that way.
lorien1973 on December 17, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Silly, we are in a post modern world We don’t need actually bills any more to enact legislation.
rbj on December 17, 2009 at 4:57 PM
They ain’t gonna vote on it on the 24th.
lorien1973 on December 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Training video for congress.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Soon we won’t even need a Congress. I’m sure Obama would love that.
Doughboy on December 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM
This is a threat to get Nelson to cave and the GOP to waive unanimous consent.
They don’t have 60.
gophergirl on December 17, 2009 at 4:59 PM
I hope those crooks waste their Christmas Eve sitting in Washington DC, trying to get this thing passed to no avail.
That would be one sweet Christmas gift!
UltimateBob on December 17, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Assbackwards Obamatalk Newspeak.
maverick muse on December 17, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Democracy is going to be what happens in November, 2010.
Obama needs to go ahead and start working on his pardons list, because he will stand no chance of re-election of this garbage passes.
I assume that he will spend the time between his November, 2012 trouncing and Sarah’s innauguration in January, 2013 opening up the prisons.
molonlabe28 on December 17, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Sickening.
They have to screw with us on Christmas Eve! I hate these people! I really do! On freakin Christmas Eve of all times! We can’t just have a break from the freaking Marxists for one stinking night! They have to ram their bill down our throats on Christmas of all times! Can’t just relax and have family time, no! We have to watch and wonder whether we will all be voted into slavery the night before Christmas!
JellyToast on December 17, 2009 at 5:00 PM
It is to bad that Sen. McConnell has to give Sen. Snowe all that attention just to try and keep her from defecting. I hope it works and she doesn’t get bought.
fourdeucer on December 17, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Boy: Listen to those congressmen arguing! Is all that discussion and debate about you?
Bill: Yeah, I’m one of the lucky ones. Most bills are written before they are voted on. I hope they don’t write me up so I change into anything congressional leaders want me to be.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Can Reid stop McConnel from reading the bill?
ctmom on December 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
I don’t think Grinch Reid will get DeMint to cave just because it’s Christmas. Or Coburn.
Their families will just be told, “Daddy [or Grampa] can’t be here this Christmas because he’s fighting to keep our country free, just like the soldiers far away from their families, too. We’ll have a special family dinner when he comes home.”
Wethal on December 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Don’t think so. All it takes is one senator to make the request.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM
It’s their only out. It will pass.
Caper29 on December 17, 2009 at 5:04 PM
slaughter this legislation
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
What legislation?
runawayyyy on December 17, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Porkulus was the beta test…
phreshone on December 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM
That’s how Sessions stopped Shamnesty the first time around. Even McConnell couldn’t stop Sessions.
Wethal on December 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Sort of like Don Quixote.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
…really
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Kill the bill. Tar and feather Harry and send him on a slow boat to Copenhagen.
BottomLine5 on December 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I wonder if some of the demonrats would just not be there for the vote.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Debbie Stabenow: “Republicans are starving children by holding up this bill”
Was Stabenow a member of the house back in the mid nineties when Republicans were in charge and the po wittle Dems would claim daily that the children were starving?
Rovin on December 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
C’mon it’s not like it’s that important like ramadan
Caper29 on December 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
oh boy
i called it legislation by accident
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
That’s Chinese for “Do I look like Mrs. Obama?”
txhsmom on December 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Speaking of snowstorms-this is one huge $hitstorm they’re going to start if they ram this through.
The American people will be livivd (I hope).
BO & company-you are extremely arrogant and stupid to boot.
Badger40 on December 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM
These scoundrels cut into “It’s a Wonderful Life” and heads will roll.
Knucklehead on December 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM
All GOP senators should show up with canes.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Where is our Alexander Hamilton? No one was better prepared to defend the US Constitution than Alexander Hamilton. What would he say about this take over of 1/6 of the American economic private sector? Would he favor socialistic rationing of any kind?
Americannodash on December 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM
If they pass this crap, especially on Christmas eve, we need to celebrate New Years in the Capitol with bonfires, pitchforks, hot tar and lots of feathers.
Guardian on December 17, 2009 at 5:10 PM
I’m starving.
I want to be the poster child of poverty here.
Give me my bailout & I’ll sing.
/sarc
Badger40 on December 17, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Ridiculous. They have not even seen the bill.
Terrye on December 17, 2009 at 5:10 PM
I don’t have any of those materials, but I can bring truckloads of cow & horse $hit along.
It will mix well with the tar & feathers.
Badger40 on December 17, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Do they show It’s a Wonderful Life on Christmas Eve? Seems like it has be replaced by Christmas Story ever since the copyright holder stop allowing it to be shown over and over again for a day.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM
So they’re going to be voting on bills that no one has seen yet, at 1 am and 3 am, on weekends and on Christmas eve, all so they can give President Obama something nice to talk about in his SOTU Address?
That seems about like what the founders had in mind when they set the process up.
BadgerHawk on December 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM
Smokin’ gun. Been a big week for them, what with the Russians and climategate and all.
turfmann on December 17, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Not himself during a duelk though. Personally, I would hire James Madison for the defense.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:13 PM
My thoughts exactly. It’s infuriating.
citrus on December 17, 2009 at 5:13 PM
The last thing I want to do after midnight Mass is to find out this bill has passed. Can’t these senators call for a recess and go home before they ruin the country?
fourdeucer on December 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Harry “Mr Potter” Reid is hell-bent on going after our liberties (aka The Savings and Loan)
We need to open up a good ol’ fashioned can of ZuZu’s Pedals on ‘em.
Intrepid on December 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM
It’s a done deal. Public Option will be included, just you wait and see. Only question left is how big the payoff to SnoweJob will be. I say somewhere between $700-900 million. And then they get 61 and it’s The Health Care Bipartisan Christmas Miracle.
All the while the sheep of America baaaahhhhh about Rudolf.
angryed on December 17, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Looks like it was already on this past Saturday night. NBC owns the rights to it.
Knucklehead on December 17, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Democrats in the Senate
Will have a very shiny eye
And if you ever saw it
You’d laugh until you cried.
All of the other Americans
Used to laugh and call them names
After Nov 2 2010 the democrats
Won’t be able to play legislative games.
SouthernGent on December 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Christmas is to be held from 3PM on Dec 28 until 1AM on Dec 29. The State of the Union is yet to be scheduled, but will definitely occur by August 11 at 2AM.
pedestrian on December 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM
A clusterf*ck wrapped in a FUBAR. Now that I’ve covered Reid, what is there to say about this pretense of a bill.
Thanks, Nevada!
GnuBreed on December 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM
cant santa run over harry reid
blatantblue on December 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM
O’bama won’t be there-he’ll be topless on the beach in Hawai’i.
Del Dolemonte on December 17, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Yes, they learned they can get away with anything.
neuquenguy on December 17, 2009 at 5:21 PM
That’s why I have it on DVD. You just cannot find that movie on TV like you could ten years ago.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I think in the remake George Bailey sues Mr. Gower for slapping him on the ear.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:24 PM
AP you forgot to mention that the CBO cannot score a non document document.
Hopefully Nelson will stick to his guns. He may want to get reelected.
The libs from Dean to Olberdipstick are apoplectic and melting down over Obamunistcare and as Peggy Noonan pointed out the libs have manged to piss off everyone in sight over it.
dogsoldier on December 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM
I am assuming the republicans will use each and every parliamentary scheme to slow or stop the mess…every opportunity to have them read the thing, take it…
JIMV on December 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM
It kinda’ lends new meaning to the oft-asked question: “What did you get for Christmas?”
This year, your answer won’t be nice.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I’d rather pay them to do nothing at this point.
Badger40 on December 17, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Fools…anybody with a brain would drop this damn thing…but Oh No the uhbuhma must have it for the SOTU…joke
winston on December 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM
And what will his visor say?
Badger40 on December 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM
And I was having such a good day…and I’m out of whiskey!
lovingmyUSA on December 17, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Pookie says big ‘ole machelle wants Christmas Eve & Christmas Day to be 2 new days of service, too……..to help America overcome its sordid Christ filled past/
Ris4victory on December 17, 2009 at 5:30 PM
HAHAHA Big Update:
Ben Nelson now has company: Bernie Sanders is now NOT VOTING for cloture.
More to come, no doubt.
Khorum on December 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM
It’s a trap!
fiatboomer on December 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Happy Birthday To Me.
fourdeucer on December 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I’ve taken my meds, had a nap, washed my face with cold water and cleaned my glasses. Nonetheless, the whole thing still seems surreal. How far has our government descended? It’s gut-wrenching what these fools (and I’m not excluding Republicans) have done to this country. Simply sickening. The average citizen needs to re-think what they expect from the government. They can’t be trusted with money and power, so take them away from the crooks! Let’s get back to a bare-bones federal government. If the states want to engage in this kind of nonsense, well then let the best state win!
mr.blacksheep on December 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM
More hits from “It’s a Harry Reid Christmas!” album, now on eight track and cassette…
“God rest the Kerry gentleman,
Let nothing be debate
For the bill of our Saviour
Was past on Christmas day…”
Horatius on December 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Focus on creating jobs? Now, you can FINALLY get around to creating jobs? Idiots.
Neo-con Artist on December 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM
doesn’t matter what is says, it’s how it says it.
neuquenguy on December 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM
So this is how the Republic dies…to the sound of Jingle Bells.
kingsjester on December 17, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Don’t worry, it will be written by then. And it will probably be distributed in markup format, with strike-throughs on deleted language and italicized additions, so Senators will only have to read the new stuff.
Big snowstorm possibly expected Christmas Eve, they’ll be trapped in DC anyway.
Bleeds Blue on December 17, 2009 at 5:35 PM
They remind me of lemmings marching to political suicide. Every step they take is another nail in their coffin. They can all feel the sand shifting beneath their feet and know it is now or never for statism. By next November the jig is up.
Daveyardbird on December 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Harry is leading the dems toward a momentus pyrrhic victory, if they do indeed get Nelson and Sanders to fold. I don’t think they realize how horrific a campaign ad will be produced as the dems all clap and pat each other on the back after having accomplished capturing 1/6 of the American economy.
November next year will hit them like an F5 tornado hits a 100 year old barn.
Intrepid on December 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM
It’s dingy bells…
“Dingy bells, dingy bells, dingy all the way, Harry Reid will make this pass if it takes till Christmas Day…”
Horatius on December 17, 2009 at 5:37 PM
KS Rex on December 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM
It’s fun watching you try to spin this process as a good thing.
BadgerHawk on December 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Dream on. The American voters elected these clowns knowing exactly who they were, I will not be surprised when they do it again.
neuquenguy on December 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM
The only consolation would be if Santa Claus stuffed the stockings of every liberal on the North American continent chock-full of coal.
What a Christmas present we’re set to get!
Dark-Star on December 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM
This will make people even more happy vote on this while most everyone is in church. I’m sure they’ll vote on the bill then write it. You know that way he can send it to San Fran Nan and she can have her minions vote on it.
Brat4life on December 17, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Can Reid stop McConnel from reading the bill?
ctmom on December 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Don’t think so. All it takes is one senator to make the request.
WashJeff on December 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Jeff you are correct, if you accept that there are rules of the Senate. As we saw with Sanders’ Bill being withdrawn yesterday, against the Senate rules that required unanimous consent, Reid no longer finds these techinicalities relevent.
This type of thing was the inevitable consequence of the adherence to rule of law becomming a matter of political expediance once Chrysler’s shareholders were stripped of their property rights. That was that initial crack that appears on your windshield that eventually spiderwebs across its entire area. Until it is completely compromised and is no longer viable for its intended purpose.
Chrysler was just the beginning, the breakdown of legal protocols in our legislature is the but only another fissure spreading across your windscreen. Wait till the next moment of stress, or if you like when we get up to free-way speeds, the resultant implosion will be dangerous. If not fatal, to our way of life.
Archimedes on December 17, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Let me go out on a limb and predict right now that if the dems somehow pass this thing between getting their 60 votes or reconciliation, 1994 will be a picture of health for them to what the voters will do to them in 2010.
The problem they are dealing with is that every age demographic is opposed to this garbage. I predict is they pass this and the pres signs it, they will lose @ 100 seats in the house and lose every senate seat as well.
BTW, as a teaser, there may be a dem senator in the future forced to resign due to corruption in presvious position
ConservativePartyNow on December 17, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Reid is a pathetic waste of skin, and is pulling a scam. If no one is allowed to read this bill, especially ALL senators, then it must be voted down. KILL THIS CRAP!!!
capejasmine on December 17, 2009 at 5:44 PM
A necessary thing. The Republicans are playing hardball. I don’t know why you expect the Democrats to do anything differently.
Bleeds Blue on December 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM
I don’t mind if they are working on Christmas Eve. I will be working that day, and they are no better than I am. Let’s just hope they get it right and kill this idiotic bill.
SgtRed on December 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I still haven’t figured out why you want this bill to pass so badly other than partisan stubbornness. Can you help us out?
Chuck Schick on December 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Perhaps because they’ve shown themselves for the cowards they are, whining about all manner of Republican boogeymen and teabaggers who have yet to shoot off anything besides angry words.
The Democrats have squandered their position of power, acting like a bunch of frightened lambs when they could have acted like bears and steamrolled the opposition. There is NO logical explanation for the vast majority of their failures so far except mind-boggling incompetence, and even the hardcore leftwingers are starting to see that.
Now, in the comparative ‘final hours’ of what was supposed to be their ace in the hole, they’ve substituted all manner of nonsense in the name of ‘reform’ and may yet lose. Only NOW are they playing hardball.
Dark-Star on December 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Yet we can still be entertained by lefty hysteria…..
http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/12/17/the-left-pounds-obamacare-some-more/
Intrepid on December 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM
They want to push it through now, when almost everyone is busy preparing for the holidays and, they hope, not paying as much attention.
God help us all.
Common Sense on December 17, 2009 at 5:56 PM
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