Leaked document: Emission targets at Copenhagen could still produce “catastrophic” global warming
posted at 7:49 pm on December 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
How wonderful that this very not-minor revelation is buried fully 10 paragraphs down in Time’s dispatch from the conference.
Even if diplomats make progress on a deal in Copenhagen, however, it’s becoming increasingly clear that any viable agreement will fall far short of the level of carbon cuts that science demands. A paper leaked from, and confirmed to be authentic by, the U.N. on Thursday night contains an assessment of the emissions-reduction pledges put forward so far in Copenhagen. It calculates that even if all developed and developing nations keep their promises, atmospheric carbon concentrations would rise as high as 770 parts per million, and temperatures could rise 3°C by the end of the century. The upper safe zone in temperature rise, according to many scientists, is 2°C, and the limit called for by vulnerable island nations is 1.5°C. “This document shows that for all the U.N. spouts about 2°C, the plan comes nowhere near it,” says Bill McKibben, the environmental writer who runs 350.org, an environmental group that calls for far deeper carbon cuts. “This is the real Climategate, and it shows that any agreement we sign at this summit will be the equivalent of a suicide pact.”
The Torygraph, thankfully, is giving the story its due. Consider this an addendum to yesterday’s post comparing Copenhagen to ObamaCare: In addition to all the other similarities, now we’ve got two exorbitantly expensive agreements whose own sponsors admit that they’re not going to achieve what they’re supposed to, but which simply must be enacted lest the left lose face politically. All at the low, low cost of trillions of dollars over the next few decades.
Speaking of squandering wealth, here’s the clip of Chavez receiving “deafening” applause inside the convention hall for dumping on capitalism. Send it to a friend because this ain’t showing up in tonight’s network news, rest assured.









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Nope, no commies in that audience.
AUINSC on December 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Capitalism built this country… how’s that socialism working out for yours? Your economy is smaller than most of our individual states.
Scrappy on December 17, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Obama will feel right at home…
cmsinaz on December 17, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Man, AP, why are you telling us things we already knew. I mean, even a caveman would know…
Ok, sorry, I did not mean to offend cavemen.
Trov on December 17, 2009 at 7:54 PM
In other words, our Earth is an absurdly fragile system and can be undone by just a century or two of burning fossil fuels, and the only cure is for us to all renounce all technology that isn’t powered by wind or muscle power.
/sarc
Aitch748 on December 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM
BHO can top that…just you wait.
d1carter on December 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Funniest part: The fact that they have to tell you that the applause was “deafening” in a subtitle since the audio evidence in the clip is a little underwhelming.
Scrappy on December 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Man, Chavez can eat a parrot dick, srsly.
Hannibal Smith on December 17, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Maybe O and his buddy,Chavez can hang out again,exchange marxist books,and have a good laugh again.The only time ive seen O look comfortable and happy with a “world leader” was when he hung out with Hugo.Creepy.
theTarCzar on December 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I have to say, I think the Copenhagen conference deserves a solid B+.
WisCon on December 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Chavez would happily murder every one of those clapping morons if they got in his way, that’s the part they don’t understand.
Bishop on December 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM
“scientists demand”?
Who the hell do they think they are?
OldEnglish on December 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Toopid
Bishop on December 17, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Puzhalsta…!
Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM
A paper leaked
fromby, and confirmed to be authentic by, the U.N.FIFY
ROCnPhilly on December 17, 2009 at 8:02 PM
I so wish GW had walked upto Chavez and blew the Venezuelan dictator’s brains out the back of his skull.
Holger on December 17, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Truer words have never been spoken.
IowaWoman on December 17, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Socialism is like an exgirlfriend, the more time passes, the more fondly you remember them. But we all know why we dumped them in the first place.
Daveyardbird on December 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM
It all depends on how the area was miked.
Allahpundit on December 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM
I must be going deaf because that was hardly “deafening” applause.
The Ugly American on December 17, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Nothing short of shutting down the industrialized Western world will satisfy the “scientists’ demands.” That, and transferring our wealth to the Third World — and to “climate scientists” and Al Bore — is what the lefty cretins of AGW are after.
Wonder if Osama Obama and Yugo Chavez will have time for a cozy little heart-to-heart in between their efforts to
destroy civilizationchange the world?MrScribbler on December 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM
But okay… the fact that they clapped at all is shocking enough.
Trained seals.
The Ugly American on December 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Fascist world to Obowma…
Obowma:
Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2009 at 8:17 PM
His line about the ghost of capitalism seems like a botched version of the first line of the Communist Manifesto:
“A spectre is haunting Europe – the spectre of Communism.”
sandberg on December 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Maybe we’ll have a Christmas miracle and Obama will be visited by the Ghost of Capitalism Past.
sandberg on December 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Actually, no.
You see, they’re setting up a system where you will be able to pay for your sins so it doesn’t matter anyway. As long as they have the requisite fines in their pockets all will be well.
The Obamas and Gores of the world will be, understandably, exempt.
Beto Ochoa on December 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Do scientists lie?
/sarc
CWforFreedom on December 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Air Force One is delivering the ghost of capitalism to Copenhagen.
fourdeucer on December 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Is that how intelligence dies? To thunderous applause?
I’m not surprised.
Woody
woodcdi on December 17, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Lets not forget Mugabe’s contribution:
rob verdi on December 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Hugo Chaves is the modern day version of Benito Mussolini.
Hellrider on December 17, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Climate-schmimate. It´s all about taking money from the developed “capitalist” countries and giving it to dictators.
Hillary offered up $100 billion today.
albill on December 17, 2009 at 8:25 PM
He says what Obama really feels.
tomas on December 17, 2009 at 8:26 PM
You put “catastrophic” in quotation marks; isn’t it time to put “global warming” in them too?
ParisParamus on December 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM
A Global Catostrophic Dooms Day Scenario that will
make Judgement Day a picnic!!
Ya know,with all these dire consquences,it reminds me,
of the Liberals first 700 Billion dollar stimulus,that
if it wasn’t agreed to,and had to be done yesterday,then
the entire US Economy would go,and pardon my Canadian
lingo,t*ts up,Ahem!!!!
canopfor on December 17, 2009 at 8:28 PM
In light of Climategate the people that are participating in Copenhagen right now are the equivalent of Baghdad Bob.
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Why is it always the stooges that rob their country’s treasuries and declare themselves presidents for life are always the ones bashing capitalism?
jack herman on December 17, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Since Chavez’s socialism is so great, let him come up with the bucks for GW.
GarandFan on December 17, 2009 at 8:32 PM
List of 500 papers supporting AGW skepticism.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html
CWforFreedom on December 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM
And how well the guy could hear that submitted the report.
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM
The UNITED STATES so damaged his country that it will not be possible.
/
CWforFreedom on December 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Just for that I’m going to turn up my thermostat! (While it is still legal for me to do so.)
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM
How could he hear anything significant with his head so far up his own a$$.
Beto Ochoa on December 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Lying is now an art form. I sure hope Obama makes some really good 2012 ads tomorrow.
The AGW fraud will be well understood by all by 2012.
tarpon on December 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM
so now a polite golf clap is deafening applause?
aic4ever on December 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM
So they are really applauding for the death of America, and our America-hater in chief will be in the middle of them. Thanks, stupid voters.
SouthernGent on December 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Are you serious?
farright on December 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Well with Cankles promise of 100 Billion yankee tax payer dollars for Hugo and his brethren, the parrot brained despot better invite Hillary on down for a weekend of Venezuelan Va-Va-Voom!
dmann on December 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I see your point even though the person in question can’t.
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:47 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how generous these people are with my money.
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Rush has an idea that we come up with an international excrement list. Any country that says anything bad about the US gets added to the list. Any country on the list gets no US aid. I wish we could implement something like this.
Mormon Doc on December 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM
I wonder if there is any way to stop payment on this check.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Anyone else find it odd that Chavez, who finances his revolution off the revenue of one of the world’s dirtiest, massive oil companies, is even speaking at Copenhagen?
No wonder he focused on capitalism instead of the environment.
Golden Boy on December 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Iowahawk weighs in:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2009/12/the-miming-is-settled-it-is-time-to-take-forceful-antics-against-climate-change.html
Erich66 on December 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Climate craptologists long ago admitted that no matter what we do global warming can’t be avoided which just proves their scam has nothing to do with saving the planet and proves what changes in the climate there are is natural.
Of course admitting man made global warming is a big fat fraud then didn’t throw up any stop signs then for these grifters either.
Only when sane people take over the debate and the consequences will these disease go into remission.
Chavez just needs and richly deserves the Shaka Zulu treatment.
Speakup on December 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM
They have already declared capitalism dead. This Man Made Climate change lie is no more than tool to redistribute wealth. 100 Billion is just a start. They are running deficit up so quickly and ruining business, I now believe that they want to destroy our capitalist country by overwhelming it. We have not seen worse yet. Peoples unemployment benefits are running out. Many people live in homes worth much less than the balance on their loans. We are going to see a second round of bank failures, further unrest by the people, resulting in their excuse to declare marshal law and suspension of 2010 elections. I hope not. God Help US!!
Ed Laskie on December 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
BTW, that’s per year.
Fletch54 on December 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I am so sick of these people and their never ending doom saying.
And the idea that Chavez, the guy who basically owns Citgo would go to a global warming conference and rail against capitalism is just too bizarre for words.
Terrye on December 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
$100 billion A YEAR!
uknowmorethanme on December 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Chavez will probably receive a Nobel winning fist-bump and a bag of cash tomorrow.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Ever notice how the high profile socialists (Moore, Chavez) are pretty hefty people?
ThePrez on December 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I wish that I could wake up and be told that this has all been just a terrible nightmare. The dummies that voted for this douche should be the ones that fund his socialist agenda. Where the f is the money coming from??!!
farright on December 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Ever notice how that deduction column of your pay stub keeps getting larger?
uknowmorethanme on December 17, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I don’t think Comrade Hugo was happy about warming up the audience for Chairman Maobama.
james23 on December 17, 2009 at 9:22 PM
That’ll have to wait until Osama Obama is removed from office.
Any country that makes the list would be run by the Chicago Jesus’s tight buddyroos.
MrScribbler on December 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
How much longer do we the “good people” of America put up with all this abuse and insanity; be it global warming, nObamacare, creeping socialism, illegal immigration, a whole host of secular agendas, Islamic supremacy, the list goes on and on somehow enshrined in the all to slick moniker of Hope & Change…… Enough, fast approaches the moment of inertia after which there will be no stopping the juggernaut of truth and the inevitable call to stand the line.
dmann on December 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM
For a guy that wears tailor made suits and jets around the world in first class style, he sure seems to hate the idea of other people getting a taste of the finer things in life.
hawkdriver on December 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Till 2010
hawkdriver on December 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Chavez…I didn’t know that monkey poop could be stacked so high.
BottomLine5 on December 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Copenhagen today.
BL@KBIRD on December 17, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Preemptive panicking. Setting up future protesting and fundraising. Causes need a crisis.
There is nothing that will make environmentalists happy because the environment has absolutely nothing to do with why they are angry.
29Victor on December 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Love the new grading scale aka “The Obama Curve”.
Failure = B+
b3026 on December 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
He’s just an old bandito, there’s no reason to show him the slightest bit more respect than what comes from a pike.
Speakup on December 17, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Hawk, make sure your vote counts. We need it.
BottomLine5 on December 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM
If the whole world went communist, who would produce the things the people use all the time? Where would the poor immigrants migrate to if there is no capitalist nation to draw them? Would Hugo be pleased that the whole world would be in misery? I believe he and BO would be perfectly happy if the whole world was like Cuba and old East Germany.
garydt on December 17, 2009 at 10:58 PM
I had no idea that tickets to the circus were that much more than box seats at the Super Bowl.
Lily on December 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Here’s the beauty of Chavez and his rant. We all know where he gets his money, from the oil this conference wants to shut-off from production. The people buying his oil, for the most part, are the capitalists he was trashing. Chavez is more of a moron than Castro, since he derives his power from the money oil generates, Castro derived his power from a revolution against a corrupt dictator, big difference.
Oil production, in Venezuela is down, since Chavez took over and nationalized the oil industry. Without oil money, Chavez is just another vulnerable dictator waiting to be overthrown. He can rant all he wants, but facts is facts.
bflat879 on December 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Copenhagen: Meeting of the communist minds
UltimateBob on December 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Well, the people of Red China are pretty productive.
Of course, the workers there have guns to their heads, and are laboring under threat of execution if they slack off or screw up. I guess that works, too.
UltimateBob on December 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Hey doofus … quit wasting your time with this anthropogenic global warming nonsense.
If you want to tackle a REAL problem …….
STOP PLATE TECTONICS!
bannedbyhuffpo on December 18, 2009 at 12:46 AM
The lurking ghost of Capitalism…
The lingering sulfur scent of BushSatan…
Hugo is another frustrated poet, I fear.
Disturb the Universe on December 18, 2009 at 8:07 AM
If there was thunderous applause, I didn’t hear it. Played the clip twice, heard it on Limbaugh yesterday. No applause. If you’re going to post something like this, at least make sure the clip matches the headline. Sending that to a democRat is a waste of time. Get the clip with the applause.
Jarhead68 on December 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM
To quote Chicken Little, “The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling!”
To quote Ronald Coase, Nobel Prize for Economic Sciences, 1991, “If we torture the data long enough, it will confess.”
Uniblogger on December 18, 2009 at 9:54 AM
… too funny
J_Crater on December 18, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I do have to say that Chavez cuts through the smokescreen, and goes to the heart of the issue, somewhere the other attendees are loathe to traverse. The entire movement is about socialism, not the climate.
Vashta.Nerada on December 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Yes, it is Scrappy, but not for long. These folks are winning the war in destroying America, in case you haven’t noticed – being on the right side doesn’t mean you win.
Don L on December 20, 2009 at 5:34 AM