Breaking: Nelson rejects abortion compromise; Update: Audio added

posted at 1:12 pm on December 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The path to 60 just got a lot more difficult:

In an interview Thursday with a Nebraska radio station, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said new compromise language on abortion funding is unacceptable.

“As it is right now, without further modifications, it isn’t sufficient,” Nelson told KLIN radio in Lincoln, NE.

This could be a significant blow to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s effort to line up 60 votes in the coming days for the health care bill. Nelson has said he would filibuster the bill unless the abortion language mirrored what was included in the House bill.

Even if abortion is addressed to his satisfaction, “that is not enough” for Nelson commit to voting for the bill, he said.

How bad will this get?  Barack Obama hasn’t even addressed the issue of abortion with Nelson directly.  That’s a pretty interesting picture of disinterest coming from the Oval Office on what is supposed to be Obama’s highest priority on his domestic agenda.

Harry Reid will have to go back to the drawing board on abortion funding, but that may not be possible.  His progressive wing is already in near revolt over having to vote for a bill with no government-run plan in it.  They wanted a precursor to a single-payer system; in fact, that was the entire point of the health-care reform push.  Now they’re going to be asked to kill funding for abortion as well, having worked for months to build a path around the Hyde Amendment.  There is no way that will get through to cloture, and no way it will pass in the House even if it did.

Nelson’s driving a stake through the heart of ObamaCare.  Looks like Barack Obama has his pretext for skipping Copenhagen.

Update: Here’s the audio and a transcript:

HOST: “You’ve been very clear that you do not like the idea of federal funding going towards abortions. You provided the amendment that did not pass muster with the Senate. Is that the single issue right now—if that were changed, would that be enough, right now, for you to go along with the bill?”

NELSON: “No. There are other substantive issues…”

HOST: “But if the abortion issue is taken care of to your satisfaction, whether it be some kind of compromise that is to your satisfaction, would that be enough for you to vote for cloture and go forward?”

NELSON: “No.”

HOST: “That’s not enough alone?”

NELSON: “That’s not enough.”

NELSON: “A deadline and a timeline that’s out there that is not achievable isn’t helpful. I can’t tell you that they couldn’t come up with something that would be satisfactory on abortion between now and [Christmas], and solve all the other issues that I’ve raised to them. But I don’t see how.”

HOST: “Senator, we gotta let you go, but I want you to bottom line this for our listeners. As of right now, the way things stand right now, you would not vote cloture on this bill.”

NELSON: “That’s correct. On cloture on the motion to end debate. I voted for cloture on the motion to begin debate and I said at the time, and I’m following through on that, if … it’s not at the point where I think it needs to be with the improvements that I’m pushing, and they’ve made a lot of them, then I will not vote for cloture on the motion to end debate.”


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POS Democrats.

Cornyn ws speaking and his time was up so he asked for additional time. The presiding Democrat objected.

Cornyn pointed out that nobody else waiting to speak so the chair relented.

Anything to derail Republican’s attempt at shining the light of day on ObamaCare.

ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM

This is good news. But I wish the damn thing would die because it will cost $5T and destroy health care, not because of abortion. If it dies because of abortion, then the next time, they’ll leave abortion funding out and say, OK, we compromised, now there is no reason not to pass it.

angryed on December 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM

The end to your cluelessness is nonexistent…

ladyingray on December 17, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Poor Ann–hasn’t got a clue that it’s not about usurping a state’s own sovereigny–it’s giving support to the one man standing in a circle of wolves…
Nelson is the last man holding the rope before we fall over the precipice…and there is no one behind him…
This would be a great cartoon–if it wasn’t so sad…
Get a clue Ann…

lovingmyUSA on December 17, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Time to cancel Copenhagen yet?

HAHAHAHAA oh man lol.

Ok ok, if Obama pulls a repeat of his efforts to bring the Olympics to Chicago and flies from Copenhagen to save healthcare and fails, his name will be used as a verb.

Obama (v): To throw oneself into a situation only to embarrass yourself and publicly fail.

“Before Steve took over as team lead, he spoke with each developer and reassessed the project requirements to avoid pulling an Obama in front of the increasingly impatient clients.”

jhffmn on December 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Do we have a Base there he can land Air Force One at? The Copenhagen Airport might have to close down. **snort**

kingsjester on December 17, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Whoops. Wrong thread. Excuse me.

kingsjester on December 17, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Obama (v): To throw oneself into a situation only to embarrass yourself and publicly fail.

jhffmn on December 17, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Very good, I hope you don’t mind if I use it from time to time.

“Dammit, you’ve Obamanized yourself yet again. When will you ever learn?”

ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 3:33 PM

“Dammit, you’ve Obamanized yourself yet again. When will you ever learn?”

ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 3:33 PM

You’re gonna need a towel for that…

lovingmyUSA on December 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM

NebCon…thanks for Nelson’s e-mail address.

Muskoka-Eh on December 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Obviously, not everyone in Nebraska is conservative.
ladyingray on December 17, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Yeah, Ben’s going to find out how many conservatives there are here in Nebraska if he wants to run again in 2012. If our Governor runs for the Senate, Ben Nelson is toast.

yoda on December 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM

a capella on December 17, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I really think Dave is thinking about running. He had a grin on his face when he was asked if he would run for the Senate in 2012.

yoda on December 17, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Sen.Nelson must want to keep his job or something… maybe. Depends if he caves or not.

He’s got a LOT to make up for given his voting record this year.

It’s pretty much assured I’ll vote for someone else in 2012 at this point even if he does help kill Obamacare.

Yakko77 on December 17, 2009 at 3:54 PM

It’s pretty much assured I’ll vote for someone else in 2012 at this point even if he does help kill Obamacare.

Yakko77 on December 17, 2009 at 3:54 PM

How about you don’t tell him that?

angryed on December 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM

if Nelson wants to stick with NO, he needs to get into Senator Protection Program in a secret hideout or they will ‘convince’ him somehow

hide Ben hide!

ginaswo on December 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM

I really think Dave is thinking about running. He had a grin on his face when he was asked if he would run for the Senate in 2012.

yoda on December 17, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Yeah, the timing is right and the natives are restless. Johanns and Heineman wouldn’t be a bad set. Nelson’s in a bad spot right now,..vote the wrong way and he’ll kamikize right into the Platte.

a capella on December 17, 2009 at 4:06 PM

hide Ben hide!

ginaswo on December 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM

And whatever you do don’t go for any long walks in any parks!

Unless you take Hillary!
I bet secretly her and Bill are laughin their asses off! Hell, they are prolly givin Ben Clintoon Cash!

dhunter on December 17, 2009 at 4:06 PM

While I am over-joyed to watch the implosion of the progressive agenda, my revelry is tempered by my familiarity with the progressive’s historical response to adversity, and it is not pretty. The progressive’s proclivity towards authoritarian temper tantrums is well documented, even here in the US…

http://knol.google.com/k/john-ray/the-american-roots-of-fascism/1a2p9co02fh9a/3#

.. with this in mind, and the recognition that desperate times call for despearate actions more often than not, ther ois a danger of this proclivity re-emerging as the progressives’ “once in a lifetime” opportunity begins to slip away.

With the Town Halls and the Tea Parties we saw the visceral reation by the progressive left, rabid denunciation, libelous accusations of perfidy and occasional outbreaks of violence, the early manifestations of the tactics reminiscent of the Brown-Shirts of the early 30’s. As their desperation grows, the worry should be that they not move into the latter stages, when one looks at those many (27 & counting) former members of the SDS/Weathermen that now make up the core of Team Obama and progressive coalition, one realizes this not being hyperbolic. As FBI agent Grathwohl has testified to,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ

…these people not only advocated later stage Brown-Shirt tactics, but advocated their intent for a final solution for dissidents opposed to their utopian nightmare.

The point is that though we can take pleasure in this small triumph as Obamacare implodes, we are by no means out of the dark. I fully expect that as the prospects for the progressives agenda begins to fade, they will more and more take on the demeanor of the wounded animal, and become very dangerous indeed.

Archimedes on December 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM

they’re triangulating. Nelson, Lieberman and all the rest of them. They’ll get a bone and the whole mess will swing left. The pieces will soon fall into place provided that there is leadership from the WH added to the mix.

//////s//

ted c on December 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM

they’re triangulating. Nelson, Lieberman and all the rest of them. They’ll get a bone and the whole mess will swing left. The pieces will soon fall into place provided that there is leadership from the WH added to the mix.

//////s//

ted c on December 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Oh THATS’ what they call it! Looked to me like they were:
CHOKIN THEIR CHICKENS their in the Senate!
I hope your wrong and I’m right!

dhunter on December 17, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I used to live in Lincoln, NE. Nice state. Nice people. I disliked Hagel and have felt the two-faced sting of Nelson. That is why on the first post of this blog, I stated that he will cave…

jbh45 on December 17, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Winter Storm Watch for District Of Columbia, DC
from 12 am EST, Sat., Dec. 19, 2009 until 6 am EST, Sun., Dec. 20, 2009

Issued by The National Weather Service
Baltimore/Washington, MD
1:48 pm EST, Thu., Dec. 17, 2009

… WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT…

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH… IN EFFECT FROM LATE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT.

* PRECIP TYPE… SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS… HEAVY SNOW WITH ACCUMULATIONS GREATER THAN 5 INCHES.

* TIMING… SNOW WILL BEGIN LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING.

* TEMPERATURES… UPPER 20S TO LOWER 30S THROUGH THE EVENT.

* WINDS… 10 TO 20 MPH THROUGH THE EVENT… WITH GUSTS OF 25 TO 30 MPH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

Was Harry thinking of meeting this weekend? It looks like Copenhagen isn’t the only place with a snowstorm. And Lieberman won’t drive or ride on the Sabbath. He walks from Georgetown.

Wethal on December 17, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I reiterate my bet that if Obama threatened to close a military base in retaliation for Nelson’s NO vote, that base is already in the consideration works of getting shut down. Regardless of Nelson’s vote, the base will be closing.

For years, Gates has been reformulating the Air Force to cut back everything.

Since this particular airbase has climate records to repudiate Obama/Gore fraud, Obama would definitely want the records destroyed to facilitate his desired legislative agenda to tax America dead as he “ascends” to UN global governance.

maverick muse on December 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Nelson has said he would filibuster the bill unless the abortion language mirrored what was included in the House bill.

What is the point of that? Pelosi already promised to restore mandated federal funding for abortion in the final house version.

Vashta.Nerada on December 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM

It’s pretty much assured I’ll vote for someone else in 2012 at this point even if he does help kill Obamacare.

Yakko77 on December 17, 2009 at 3:54 PM

How about you don’t tell him that?

angryed on December 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM

I’ve written him a couple times and have had enough foresight to leave that out.

;-)

Yakko77 on December 17, 2009 at 5:54 PM

If Reid uses the “nuclear option” then this will no longer be a Representative Democracy and the Constitution will no longer be in effect. The vile, blood thirsty left is literally raping the nation and destroying this once great Republic. It’s time to pull out the stops and ensure that the people replace this Fascist government in 2010.

rplat on December 17, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Just my two cent, I like “Baracked” much better. Better ring.

“What is this Barackery?”

“What a Barack (‘crock’) of s***.” (Not that I curse, but you get the drift.)

“Well you Baracked that all up.”

Etc.

voxpopuli on December 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM

I bet secretly her and Bill are laughin their asses off! Hell, they are prolly givin Ben Clintoon Cash!

dhunter on December 17, 2009 at 4:06 PM

I’m sure their laughter is tempered by the fact that they couldn’t get it done either.

That being said, as I wrote the other night, take a look at what Lyndon Johnson was able to get through the 89th Congress with a similar sized majority in the Senate (and that was when it took 67 votes to invoke cloture).

We should all be on our knees nightly thanking god that the Democrat who got the nod was as incompetent as Barack Obama, and not as competent as Frau Pantsuit. If she had won, I suspect this would already be law.

JohnGalt23 on December 17, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Why is this even an issue? The Senate must match the language in the Stupak amendment. Otherwise they make Obama out to be a liar. Why don’t they just abide by the statements Obama clearly outlined?
The text from Obama’s September address to Congress:

“And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up – under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”

Was Babs Boxer not paying attention in September?

kooly on December 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM

O.K., so I’m on the late show tonight with what Harry Reid is up to- Drudge says a Dec. 24th vote? Is this the latest? What else can we do?

anniekc on December 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM

We should all be on our knees nightly thanking god that the Democrat who got the nod was as incompetent as Barack Obama, and not as competent as Frau Pantsuit. If she had won, I suspect this would already be law.

JohnGalt23 on December 17, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Oh, agreed. Had we been dealing with Hillary or a Lyndon Johnson, this would have been a done deal a long time ago. It’s only because we have the three stooges combo of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama that this atrocity hasn’t been perpetrated on the American people yet.

Matt Helm on December 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM

We should all be on our knees nightly thanking god that the Democrat who got the nod was as incompetent as Barack Obama, and not as competent as Frau Pantsuit. If she had won, I suspect this would already be law.

JohnGalt23 on December 17, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Agreed! The ONLY thing that has delayed that disaster is mass incompetence on the part of the Democrats!

Dark-Star on December 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM

’m not connected to Nebraska.

AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM

So many of us are glad for that.

HuskerNate on December 17, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Ditto that.

OmahaConservative on December 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Yeah, Ben’s going to find out how many conservatives there are here in Nebraska if he wants to run again in 2012. If our Governor runs for the Senate, Ben Nelson is toast.

yoda on December 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Governor Dave Heineman is a principled man who says what he means, and means what he says. Very refreshing these days.

OmahaConservative on December 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Frau Pantsuit.
JohnGalt23 on December 17, 2009 at 7:10 PM

You Sir, owe me a keyboard, it is now soaked in VO and ginger-ale.

Thanks Dude…

M-14 2go on December 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM

How the heck did Nebraska vote for a Democrat in the first place?

Dems allow Reid to control the Senate and all the liberal bills that come with him.

Stop voting for Democrats!

scotash on December 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM

How the heck did Nebraska vote for a Democrat in the first place?

Dems allow Reid to control the Senate and all the liberal bills that come with him.

Stop voting for Democrats!

scotash on December 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM

We have a history of Democrat “centrist” governors who go on to become liberal senators. Think Bob Kerrey of NY New University/Viet Nam infamy.

OmahaConservative on December 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Ben Nelson was governor before Mike Johanns, who was succeeded by Dave Heineman. Hopefully, our current governor will replace ol’ Ben in 2012.

OmahaConservative on December 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Governor Dave Heineman is a principled man who says what he means, and means what he says. Very refreshing these days.

OmahaConservative on December 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Those are words that we all should live by.

Hope your retail business is going well during Christmas!!!

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 12:34 AM

How the heck did Nebraska vote for a Democrat in the first place?

He was the Governor before he was a senator. He supports farm subsidies so he gets elected in Nebraska. GRRRRR.

nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:06 AM

I wonder how many liberals even know where Nebraska is?

nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:07 AM

What do you think the price they’ll try to buy Nelson will be?

$50 billion? $750 trillion?

After all, who’s counting dollars in the Obama Administration these days?

Good Lt on December 17, 2009 at 1:19 PM

They will just make the new “Man of the year” print more money to pay him off. It’s all funny money…

nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:10 AM

I wonder how many liberals even know where Nebraska is?
nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:07 AM

Bet they know where we are now. ( :

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 2:40 AM

Hope your retail business is going well during Christmas!!!

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 12:34 AM

It is. Thank you, & Christmas Blessings to you!

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2009 at 6:50 AM

I wonder how many liberals even know where Nebraska is?
nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:07 AM

Bet they know where we are now. ( :

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 2:40 AM

They sure do. We are all over the news.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2009 at 6:51 AM

WHY DO I NOT TRUST BEN NELSON?!?!?!?

BobAnthony on December 18, 2009 at 6:57 AM

WHY DO I NOT TRUST BEN NELSON?!?!?!?

BobAnthony on December 18, 2009 at 6:57 AM

Because, at the end of the day, he is a liberal democrat.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2009 at 7:06 AM

They sure do. We are all over the news.
OmahaConservative on December 18, 2009 at 6:51 AM

It would be wonderful if Nebraska (Ben Nelson) was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I doubt Ben will be the lone nay voter, but we can hope and pray he comes through for us and that is all we can do.

I watched Governor Heineman on Greta last night and I am going to e-mail or call his office today to tell him that I agree with him.

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 8:26 AM

I watched Governor Heineman on Greta last night and I am going to e-mail or call his office today to tell him that I agree with him.

yoda on December 18, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Yes, he was very good. I will also let him know I appreciated his appearance on Greta.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2009 at 8:43 AM

How the heck did Nebraska vote for a Democrat in the first place?

He was the Governor before he was a senator. He supports farm subsidies so he gets elected in Nebraska. GRRRRR.

nazo311 on December 18, 2009 at 2:06 AM

“When the people find they can vote themselves money,
that will herald the end of the republic.”

—Benjamin Franklin

Dark-Star on December 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM

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