AP poll puts Obama at 56% approval rating
posted at 12:15 pm on December 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I’ve gotten a few e-mails about the latest AP poll, which gives Obama a 56% approval rating — far above Gallup, Rasmussen, and practically every other pollster. In fact, AP’s survey of 1000 adults has Obama’s approval rating improving over last month, most definitely in opposition to the large surveys taken even in Gallup’s own survey of adults. But even the AP analysis notes that his approval rating seems somewhat disconnected to the “squeamish” reaction to Obama’s policies:
The latest Associated Press-Gfk poll shows the president’s popularity holding steady, with 56 percent of those polled approving of the way he’s taking care of the country’s business. His marks for handling the 8-year-old war in Afghanistan have jumped by double digits, with more than half now approving, since he capped a three-month strategy review by announcing a big troop increase.
But despite his prime-time TV speech explaining how he reached his decision to boost U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 100,000, and begin bringing them home in July 2011, there was no change in the public’s resistance to escalation. Just 42 percent favor sending more troops while 56 percent oppose it, essentially unchanged from November.
The findings suggest limits to Obama’s persuasive skills — and underscore what’s seemingly become the public’s default position in his first year in office: People like him, but they’re squeamish about his policy. …
Nonetheless, half the country still says the nation is on the wrong track, and 42 percent don’t approve of how Obama is governing. Those results could prove problematic for a White House looking to advance an ambitious agenda next year and to Democrats seeking to retain control of the House and Senate. Congress’ marks remain low, with only one-third of the country approving of how it’s doing and two-thirds disapproving.
Although the national debate over health care has been heated, there was little to no change from November in the public’s attitudes on the proposals being discussed — 44 percent oppose them while 36 percent support them. And only half the country approves of Obama’s handling of the issue.
Usually, the first place one would look for a skew in an outlier survey is the sample. The AP, like many news organizations, routinely oversample Democrats and boost Obama’s numbers as a result. In this case, thought, the remarkable story of the sample is the correction made to this consistent bias. Their previous two surveys had the split in party ID at a ridiculous double-digit level. In this survey, the sample consisted of 37% Democrats and 32% Republicans — perhaps a point or two too wide, but certainly within reason.
Despite this correction, there wasn’t much movement on the issues, and what there was generally went in Obama’s favor. He remained at a virtual split on the economy, with the numbers in the margin of error but flipping favorably from 46/49 to 48/46. Health care stayed dead even at 49/46, although support for his health care package continued to drop into the fringe range, going from 39/45 in November to 36/44 this month. His rating on the deficit went from 40/51 to 41/48, again more of a statistical hiccup than a movement.
The biggest change came on his approval ratings on Afghanistan, which seems strange, because the survey indicates more resistance than ever to increasing troops in the Af-Pak theater. He went from 42/48 to 52/40, an 18-point swing in approval. That appears to be a leadership effect, bolstered by finally making a decision after months of public dithering. But the opposition to the war in Af-Pak remains at 39/57, and opposition to Obama’s surge increased from 46/50 in October and 43/54 in November to 42/56 this month.
All of these go against trends in other polls, and are somewhat contradictory within this poll. It looks like a classic outlier, not a case of biased sampling, although polling adults rather than registered or likely voters makes any poll much less predictive.









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It’s the Associated Press. What do you expect. Subjective Reporting left that bureau a long time ago.
kingsjester on December 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Betcha that included a lot of new Unicorn owners.
Juno77 on December 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Outlier indeed.
AP is trying to boost his Average. Pathetic.
portlandon on December 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
C+
cntrlfrk on December 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Another example of Hide the Decline.
keep the change on December 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
They must have polled April by accident.
Chuck Schick on December 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I think they do have their thumb on the scale on this one. It would be one thing if they had him 3 or 4 points higher than the other polls, but 9%? Nah, something is wrong.
AUINSC on December 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
In other news, the AP claims Dopenhagen is a success, AGW is going to kill us all next Tuesday, the continued dismal employment numbers are an improvment.
Solid B+ for consistency, at least.
Wind Rider on December 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Bobby Gibb’s says this poll was not written in crayon and highly approves.
Knucklehead on December 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
The AP must run that one temperature station in Antarctica that supports the AGW theory, and ditto for the one tree in Siberia.
jwolf on December 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
He’s so popular. I just don’t get why America hates his health care plan.
BadgerHawk on December 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Associated Pravda…
d1carter on December 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Whatevs
CynicalOptimist on December 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Based on the statistics of their sample size, one in 20 polls will give results outside of the margin of error…
oddball on December 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Projected Wishful Thinking.
CynicalOptimist on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
This is how they get 56%
Leftists: 92% (10% sample)
Moderates 41% (40% of sample)
Conservatives 7% (40% of sample)
ACORN voters 161% (52% of sample)
angryed on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Um, OK then AP. How do you get 56% approval if half or close to it disapprove of individual policies? I dislike his policies, but I approve of the job he\’s doing? Aren\’t the two kind of intertwined?
changer1701 on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I heard the Whitehouse threatened to close em down.
” Whitehouse ” don’t think so.
ambuldog on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I have never seen people really be that flakey in real life.
So when I see a poll way outside of the usual, I figure it is an outlier poll.
I figure he’s still being given a lot of leeway by real people, but they are deciding if it’s OK with them to have an ineffectual leader.
People have figured out he’s no big deal. I’m not sure that’s a big deal to people right now.
They may even like the fact that he’s a bit of a Carter type.
It definitely gives people more power. Then, our vote on representatives and senators means more.
There’s something to be said for that.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
President of the Year
LibTired on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
The Ap polled 1000 adults. Hey, if they get 1500 more, they can claim they have a consensus!
Worked for Al Gore!
Wind Rider on December 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
They probably worded the question about Obama’s approval so that a negative response would appear racist or something.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Someone please hold the door open. I smell the trolls coming.
Knucklehead on December 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Bradley+ effect.
mankai on December 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Should be…
B(radley)+ effect.
mankai on December 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Heh,
Yes hi I’m calling from AP for a poll we’re doing…Question 1: Do you like Obama or do you belong to the KKK? Great thank you sir, one more YES for Obama response.
angryed on December 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM
The number is sufficient.
What matters is how they loaded the assumptions.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM
1000 registered voters across Vermont…..
Trusser13 on December 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM
The aftermath of his (outlier) speech in Oslo?
ignorantapathy on December 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM
They lie!!
becki51758 on December 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Sometimes you just get a wierd sample. I’m not sure this is evidence of the AP’s bias. Though I have no doubt that they ARE biased.
hawksruleva on December 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I wonder where I could get a pair of those rose colored glasses?
scalleywag on December 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM
ap obama???what else would you expect?!:):)
ohiobabe on December 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM
OutlierOutliar.flipflop on December 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM
More likely.
crazy_legs on December 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM
It’s an AP/Family Fued poll.
We polled 1000 people and asked them, “Who lives in the White House?”
President Obama!
Survey says… (ding) 56!
mankai on December 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM
LibTired on December 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM
They must have used the same guys sampling the global warming temperatures:
First define the goal you want for the poll. Then find the samples/people that match the goal. They poll the samples/people you want to get the goal.
So you poll 1500, use only the 1000 you want to get the goal you want.
albill on December 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Thanks for writing about this Ed. I had to email this to you because it’s had me vexed all morning. How they are so far off the gallup, Rass, even NBC and such boggles my mind. I could never find their sample rate but assumed it was skewed. Now I am not so sure what to think, other than to dismiss it. What I was more angered by was the fact that Yahoo, (who does this a lot, from what I have seen), will never post the Rass poll showing him tanking, but they love to post, front and center, the odd poll here or there that makes him look good. Biased as hell.
Thunderstorm129 on December 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Hide the decline.
halfastro on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
How often are AP polls outliers?
d1carter on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
IIRC, that’s SOP in statistics – you throw out data that falls outside your confidence interval.
To most people, that really looks at odds to what happening these days.
Juno77 on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Maybe in Tehran, Copenhagen or Syria, but not here.
And organizations like the AP, Time and Newsweek wonder why no one takes them seriously.
Their trying to trade on prior credibility as news outletss, but, at this point, are simply passing off wooden nickels.
molonlabe28 on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
This will be the top story tonight. The other polls? No mention.
JammieWearingFool on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Hmmmmmmmm….
That seems odd… the surge is about the only issue upon which he has any kind of majority support in the other polls… the poll seems to favor anti-war types who are a group that is more likely to be against the surge, but approving of Obama overall.
mankai on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Well, they did get pretty cute with their jobless report too.
AUINSC on December 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
FIFY you Princess
DarkCurrent on December 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Maybe they polled adults residing in and around the area of UC Berkely?
t.ferg on December 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM
lol…AP. thats pretty funnY. state controlLed AP
how much did they oversample dummocrats in this rigged poll……10, 15, 20 percent? my guess is 15
his REAL approval is somehwere in the 30′s, and REAL unemployment is 18%
sidewinder22 on December 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Hope. Obamedia style.
Fletch54 on December 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM
The A++hole Press is lying, as part of a deliberate attempt to protect Obama and advance his agenda–as they have done countless times in the past.
This is a ‘dog bites man’ story, only stating the Obvious
lipstick on a pig…….
Janos Hunyadi on December 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM
What’s the party ID advantage for this poll? D+95%?
amerpundit on December 17, 2009 at 12:35 PM
He should leave the country more often, he does better in the polls whenever he does.
DrAllecon on December 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Well I guess this answers the question of which is the most in the tank polling outfit.
Dark Eden on December 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Well, I think that’s free enterprise.
Polling is a business.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I wonder how many people they pulled from the poll. They ask so many questions and don’t like the answers, so they ask someone else. They like the answers they keep that person. They close the gap between D and R to get what appears to be a more accurate polling data.
I don’t trust polls anyway.
jeridhill on December 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I am not paying attention to these polls – because as in the election – they never polled any of these feaks who ended up supporting him.
The reason – they all have cell phones and were/are unpollible(sic).
These polls keep polling the usual people at home with landlines during dinnertime which gives us nothing on this guy.
I want to hear from the real deal – those who actually voted for him.
I don’t want to hear from these Democrats who supported Clinton and the Republicans who supported McCain. We already know how they feel.
AprilOrit on December 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Yep, it’s because the birther stuff has died down so now he is recuperating. We let him off the hook.
Buddahpundit on December 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM
The AP story mixes apples and oranges here. They talk about popularity in the same sentence with job approval. Those are very different things, and with The One, his popularity (what people think of him as a person) will always be higher (at least for now) with job approval (how well people believe he’s running the country).
In addition, and apart from things like garbage sampling that AP and other hacks news organizations pull off, you have to take a look at what group each poll is targetting. Rasmussen uses likely voters, which is the most useful in elections and is the most favorable for the GOP, whereas Gallup uses adults (which is the most favorable for Dems), which should also be contrasted to registered voters.
ieplaya on December 17, 2009 at 12:39 PM
All numbers verified by the University of East Anglia.
mankai on December 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Gallup polls cell phone users.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Created by AP’s Fiction Dept….
DL13 on December 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM
They got it backwards its 44% approval and 56% disapproval.
Nice try AP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nvuEw9XcuU
jaboba on December 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Polling is an art, not a science. The only part that is science is the proven statistical number needed for a valid amount.
Looking at the questions is a matter of judgment.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM
How can anyone take this poll seriously when the NBC poll – NBC FOR GOODNESS’ SAKE! – has him at 47/47?
We need more background info on the specifics of the polling methods/practices here.
Intrepid on December 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I would love to see a poll of active duty military. It would be interesting to see how that goes.
BTW: they are debating the defense spending bill right now and according to Sen. Cornyn in the bill is a provision that TriCare will fall under the modle of MediCare as far as reimbursments to doctors. As a TriCare patient it is hard enough to find a local doctor who will accept TriCare and now that they are going to model it after MediCare does that mean that TriCare will suffer the same budget cuts as MediCare?
milwife88 on December 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM
AP
Associated with democrats Prevaricator
ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM
In a recent AP poll of adults in a recently discovered tribe in the deep jungle of Brazil, 56% approve of Obama’s handling of the country. In that same poll, 100% reported having no idea of who Obama was.
The signifigance of this remarkable. A majority of people who have never heard of Obama realize how effective his leadership is.
BobMbx on December 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM
This poll was done by Al Gore and his scientist on climate research. Ya just gotta massage the numbers the get the “left” answer.
vulcannomad on December 17, 2009 at 12:46 PM
AP—-STATE RUN MEDIA OUTLET
People just have no clue about what is going on. If he doesn’t get Obamacare this nations debtors are going to call the debt and he’ll get his collapse he really wants.
Voters just can’t bring themselves to see that we have a full fledged Marxist in the White House that thinks he should have the power of a Chavez or Putin.
Hells Bells with the “EXECUTIVE ORDER” power he has it’s only a miracle we still have the appearance of a Democracy in this country.
If this all goes down it’s going to be ugly.
Gird your loins Conservatives.
PappyD61 on December 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Finally, a poll that Gibbs doesn’t have to ridicule.
Bishop on December 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM
American Pravda lies, it lies all the time.
jukin on December 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM
AP was “Shocked” that umemployment went up….again. They should change their name to ‘UO’. Useless Organization.
PappaMac on December 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM
I question the timing of this outlier poll.
farright on December 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Oh come on guys. AP is trying to survive. They’ve printed polls on a host of issues.
Nobody is going to pay attention to this one poll. It’s obviously what I call, a “dying breath” poll.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Hey I took a shower last week.
Why would we expect anything different from the AP. They are and have shown that they are nothing but a mouthpiece and propaganda machine for the left. BO is the poster boy and great hope of the left and the AP must do everything they can for the cause.
RagTag on December 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM
LMAO. AP = AllPoo
Give ‘em a B+ for effort.
Key West Reader on December 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM
You would think that simple polling would be, well, simple. Hell, I could call 100 people across the US and probably have a good idea of what people thought.
ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM
If AP tells the same lie over and over again…
ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Now ogabe can take this poll to hopenhagen as proof of how much he is loved, and the enire world must bow down to him. I wonder if he will get a more rousing reception than chavez did?
lukespapa on December 17, 2009 at 12:54 PM
It will and it will be.
I’m still betting on that national emerangcy next summer that will allow them to postpone elections. I also think all the Senate should be abolished talk is prep to get people use to the idea that it is not unreasonable if it happens.
I still say Lucus was a prophet and nailed what may very well be inevitable.
RagTag on December 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Hopenhagen
lol
ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I think you should see the media printing a host of outlier posts.
They are concerned about the debate dying.
Debate is their bread and butter. If people truly foreclose on Obama, his agenda, and it’s over…
Nobody will bother to read.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM
FUDGE FACTOR!!!
n0doz on December 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Fast fact: the GFK is a German pollster founded as Hitler was grasping for power. They maintained he was popular among all Germans right up to the end of WWII.
Why anyone would hire them to poll anyone about anything is beyong me
LeeSeneca on December 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Can we be sure the AP isn’t directly involved in the fudged Climategate numbers?? The evidence seems to indicate that the AP does it’s survey during coffee breaks at the Democrat National Headquarters and over at MoveOn.org.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me to find out that the AP is polling the Democratic party, in federal, state, and local levels. LOL That would be the ONLY way to explain that number! ROFL Wouldn’t it have been easier if the AP just asked to be seen as irrelevant?
capejasmine on December 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM
This poll is just about the only one my lefty newspaper ever uses. And that’s for a reason.
Connie on December 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Who ran this poll, Al Gore’s scientists ?
Wade on December 17, 2009 at 1:05 PM
With them up is down and black is white. They make headlines with the higher unemployment look good and it’s the opposite from the Bush 43 era. The samples abound at how deep in Obama’s pants they are entrenched.
Some day they’ll come out, deprived.
Schadenfreude on December 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
GMTA
Wade on December 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
…and emaciated….
Schadenfreude on December 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Expect this poll to be broadcast all over MSNBC and quoted as gospel during the weekend talk shows, ad nauseaum.
Bob in VA on December 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Outlier, or outright lies?
UltimateBob on December 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Here’s my deep and real response.
Grow up.
You’ve been buying into lies all of your life.
So stop acting surprised that it is coming to gin up debate on this.
I have little patience about this.
AnninCA on December 17, 2009 at 1:14 PM
They must have been using different tree ring data to “hide the decline”.
echosyst on December 17, 2009 at 1:15 PM
My comment wasn’t an attack on you, Ann, I was expressing doubt about the accuracy of this poll.
I live in a very blue state, and even here there is a great deal of doubt and dissapointment with this administration (not that I’ve ever conducted a scientific poll). Many of the lifelong democrats who I work with, as well as my parents who were lifelong democrats, are saying they will vote them out next year.
I just can’t see how 56% of Americans can say that they approve of this disastrous presidency.
UltimateBob on December 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Maybe there’s that third factor of his lousy job at actually accomplishing anything (basically, a good, solid B+).
If people get past their initial instincts and answer each question honestly, thoughtfully, and independently of the other this might make sense:
Most people hate what he’s proposing to do, so they can take comfort in the fact that he kinda’ sucks at getting it done; Lousy policies, so a high rating on (lack of) implementation skills.
If you polled folks asking how many approve of Obama’s policies to destroy the country, and then asked a follow-up about how many approve of his efforts to accomplish this by stammering over pre-canned, accusatory speeches and employing the help of a gaggle of buffoons to draft the papers…you might see similar results.
Maybe not. I guess that’s a bit of a stretch. I’m actually baffled by this as well, but it seems to go hand in hand with the other AP’s highlighting the contradictory stats: e.g. though most people oppose troop escalation in Afghanistan, they seem to approve Obama’s decision to send more troops (?!)
BlueCollarAstronaut on December 17, 2009 at 1:23 PM
I can’t wait to hear O’Reilly heralding this good news for the Messiah. Last night he called Michelle Obama beautiful and gracious…..predicted Obamacare will pass and acted like a pompous jackhole!!
dmann on December 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Did they poll anyone outside of PMSNBC?
drjohn on December 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM
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