Palin to Arnold: How’s that green economy working for California, pal?

posted at 12:15 pm on December 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After Arnold Schwarzenegger criticized Sarah Palin’s stance on global warming yesterday, few thought it would take long for Palin to respond.  She launched a broadside on her Facebook page, and reminded California’s governor that the “grain of salt” the Governator recommended should be taken with economic advice from the leader of a state in free-fall and unable to budget its money properly.  Even if the world is warming, it doesn’t mean that the warming is either anthropogenic or catastrophic — and conservation doesn’t mean killing the economy:

Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change. While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters.

As Allahpundit noted, the attack on Palin seems pretty strange, from a political point of view.  After all, Palin has been a bit of a moderate on climate change, not a “denier” or even a skeptic.  Having her as an arms-length ally would make a lot more sense to the AGW True Believers, who could (a) leverage her influence on the Right to get some momentum for action, and (b) marginalize skeptics and “deniers” by using Palin in that sense.  Even “practical changes” could give enough movement to declare some victories in the US.

This demonstrates that Schwarzenegger cares more about the electoral politics involved than the climate change issues, and he’s not the only one.  The AGW True Believers aren’t interested in working with people to build consensus towards a compromise; they want to dictate their solutions and use questionable science and sky-is-falling hysteria to get it.  Sarah Palin is the canary in the coal mine, so to speak, that demonstrates this.

And Palin’s right to skewer Arnold on economics.  When California shows that it has the fiscal responsibility to actually cut its spending and bring its budget into balance while not overburdening its citizens with oppressive taxes and regulation, then perhaps its governor can offer advice on economics and policy.  Until then, Arnold should mind his own store and save his wit for the state legislature.


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Who takes the corporate brand name of second-rate ski/snowboard accessories favored by trustafarians for a moniker?

I mean, it takes some sheer, stoned stupidity to do that and question others’ intellect.

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

You presume too much my feeble minded friend. “Doorgunner”? Just another internet wannabe badass is my guess. Try again asswipe.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

If was a mathematician, he would divide by zero.

TheUnrepentantGeek on December 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM

That made me LOL.

BPD on December 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Hitchens is a drunk as a skunk former Trotskyite. Sometimes he is wrong, sometimes he’s been drinking to much Johnnie Walker.

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Hitchens is a drunk as a skunk former Trotskyite. Sometimes he is wrong, sometimes he’s been drinking to much Johnnie Walker.

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

That won’t stop Allahpundit from making it a Blog Post by 4:00pm today.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM

katie, Palin will tell you whatever you want to hear. She’s a typical populist politician. She’s pandering. She’s a fiction of your imagination. There’s nothing there. “Heathen”? Really? LOL

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Geez, Charles, you need better material. Even your bootlicking sycophants are funnier than you. Don’t you have some crappy pictures of rusty bike locks or something to go post about?

BlueStateBilly on December 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM

She’s pandering to her “base” dipshit. Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

If you think that’s what she’s doing, why aren’t you just getting out of the way and let her “destroy” the movement?

If she is supposedly playing into the hands of the Statists and destroying the right, why are you complaining?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM

If she was really running she wouldn’t be violating the so-called 11th Commandment of GOP politics.
PappyD61 on December 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

By returning an attack Arnold made against her?
She isn’t violating any commandment. Arnold is a flaming RINO at best a dem in disguise most likely and its’ open season on cross the isle RINOs’.

Keep reloadin and rockin Sarah!

Goin Rogue with ya!

dhunter on December 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM

If you think that’s what she’s doing, why aren’t you just getting out of the way and let her “destroy” the movement?

If she is supposedly playing into the hands of the Statists and destroying the right, why are you complaining?

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here, so damn right I’ll complain. What else ya got genius?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Exactly what does this “conservative movement” that’s being destroyed stand for?

darwin on December 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Hitchens gets to the essence of Palin once again…”a disgraceful opportunist and a real moral coward”.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Considering the people Hitchens has tagged that label with in the past, Palin’s in illustrious company.

I just love reading Palin spin and hedge on Climate Change. Funny stuff.

Pretty much like Lindzen’s hedge.

Plus, saying that California’s environmental policies are what caused the current economic problems in California is kind of like saying letting Marian Anderson sing at the Lincoln Memorial in 1939 caused World War II. Epic logic fail, Palin.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Ummm, no. That only applies if saying that letting Marian Anderson sing resulted in the war being shortened by 3 years. Which is akin to Arnold’s logic here. Epic logic fail, Proud Rino.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 2:29 PM

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

You think all of SP’s base are fundamentalist Christians? News Flash, I am a fan and I am in no way shape or form a Christian.

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM

* “tagged with that label”, that is.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Arnold, like Obama is an egomaniac. Do you realize that he has done 10X the damage than Gray Davis, whom he replaced after a recall – would ever have done? Ahhhnold is a joke and a menace.

marklmail on December 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM

The constant barrage of attacks on a person who isn’t even running for office, or in a leadership position within her own party, only shows that the claims by the opposition of not having fear of her is bogus. If an ant is crawling across your floor, you don’t fear it. You step on it or ignore it and move on. If a pitbull is chasing you and nipping at your butt, you pay attention. If the left, MSM, and RINOs didn’t think she were a threat, they would ignore her and go about their business.

chewmeister on December 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

You Lie!

BPD on December 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Exactly what does this “conservative movement” that’s being destroyed stand for?

darwin on December 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM

He doesnt answer direct,easy questions.His superior intellect is too busy coming up with “put-downs” like dipwad,and asswipe.

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Then you’re being played my man.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Hmmmm.

@ Blake

“One thing that better not happen again is California refusing to pay their venders while they continue to pay themselves. I and others went 4 months without a paycheck while they just kept living the high life.”

But what can you do other than refuse to continue doing business? It’s a state after all. Not like you can put out a lien on the Governor’s mansion can you?

memomachine on December 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Though Palin is too classy to do it, I would have loved a short letter from her where the layout of the paragraph left each sentence starting with an ‘F’. Then a ‘U’, a ‘C’.

Thunderstorm129 on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

What would be hilarious and not the slightest bit out of line would be to do it so that it spelled B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T.

Pablo on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Ha! Even better!

Thunderstorm129 on December 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Who, during the Reagan candidacies would no doubt have said “proud Rockefeller Republican here”. As many did at the time.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

http://www.dakine.com/

I presume nothing. You’ve announced yourself, douchebag.

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Palin will tell you whatever you want to hear. She’s a typical populist politician. She’s pandering. She’s a fiction of your imagination. There’s nothing there. LOL

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Feel in the KoolAide again, huh?

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here, so damn right I’ll complain. What else ya got genius?
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Here’s a tip for ya, try not to unnecessarily aggravate others on the board, okay.

So if you are a Goldwater/Reagan conservative what do YOU stand for?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM

She’s pandering to her “base” dipshit. Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Boo freaking hoo–another whinner–I really gave you more credit then that…provide proof to that statement–dipwad

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

So when you’re not attempting some weak-ass Moby-trolling, do you, like ‘pull a few tubes’ charge up some gnarly accessories on Daddy’s card and head for the mountain in your Xterra?

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Try again poser. I’m well aware of the dakine brand. However, it has nothing to do with my handle. Brah. BTW assclown, do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion at hand?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Arnold should be hiding under a rock in shame. Attacking Palin is just ignorant. I regret that I voted for this man. What a mistake.

Rose on December 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM

logis on December 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Damn, best description of the Republican inaction evah!

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM

She is totally correct about Arnold. I like him as an actor even if he wasn’t very good, but as a politician he has been shackled or allowed himself to be shackled with to many liberal concessions and look what he has now! A state that has to beg everyone else to take care of them.
I wouldn’t take his political advice to seriously right now and Sarah is right to point that out. Since he can’t run with the big dogs he needs to stay on the porch!
You go girl!

SgtRed on December 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM

. Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Don’t get too angry with Dakine. He’s been trying real hard to earn his Rino Merit Badge ever since he spent a week at Camp Frum.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Schwarzenegger

If there was a recall petition today I would sign it.

And alas I voted for him.

enginemike on December 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM

BTW assclown, do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion at hand?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Kind of a self defeating statement there Dakine.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Here’s a tip for ya, try not to unnecessarily aggravate others on the board, okay.

So if you are a Goldwater/Reagan conservative what do YOU stand for?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Save the condescending BS Juno. But just for you: a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

She is totally correct about Arnold. I like him as an actor even if he wasn’t very good, but as a politician he has been shackled or allowed himself to be shackled with to many liberal concessions and look what he has now!

SgtRed on December 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Yeah, I think Arnold’s a good guy essentially who’s gotten a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome, like a lot of figures in the GOP.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here, so damn right I’ll complain. What else ya got genius?
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Here’s a tip for ya, try not to unnecessarily aggravate others on the board, Okay.

So, IF you are a Goldwater/Reagan conservative what do YOU stand for?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Then you’re being played my man.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

So you got nothing better than ad hominems?

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Load, lock, fire–can you imagine Sarah and Liz Cheney aiming side by side? Artic Fox and Foxy Lady!

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM

But just for you: a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Why don’t you spend as much time touting your possible candidate of choice who holds those values, so we can sit around and shoot holes in him/her and tell you what an ignoramus you are for believing in him/her? Go ahead.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Save the condescending BS Juno. But just for you: a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

And believes in AGW with a religious-like fervor.Hmmm.

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here, so damn right I’ll complain. What else ya got genius?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Really? I never once heard Reagan attack social conservatives. So while you might be a Goldwater conservative you missed the boat on Reagan.

chemman on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Really? I never once heard Reagan attack social conservatives. So while you might be a Goldwater conservative you missed the boat on Reagan.

chemman on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Reagan’s one of those who, now he’s safely dead, can be used as a talisman even by lib types who hated his guts.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM

…true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

You asked if I had some something of substance to add, “Brah”. Here’s a suggestion: When you’re Moby-trolling as a conservative adult try not to employ the standard terminology of a juvenile WTO protestor, and, the teen-aged verbal belligerence doesn’t exactly dovetail with a mid-sixties, Goldwater conservatism, either “poser”.

Grow up. And pull up your pants; you look like a jackass.

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Really? I never once heard Reagan attack social conservatives. So while you might be a Goldwater conservative you missed the boat on Reagan.

chemman on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Oh please. The way Dakine talks with all his filthy language and name calling, he/she wasn’t even a afterthought during the Reagan Administration. I’m guessing more like a 17-25 year old basement dweller.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM

dakine – Reagan spent a decade telling the social-cons what they wanted to hear and gave them bugger-all in legislation.

Fine with me.

Palin’s a centrist on policy. If that means she trims her sails to the political winds on occasion, that’s fine with me too.

Her basic positions are the right ones, and while too much of the GOP’s still hiding under rocks pretending anthropogenic climate change is some kind of settled fact, she’s willing to say what most of us are thinking.

Good on her.

JEM on December 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM

But just for you: a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Okay, then why do you have a problem with Sarah?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM

The governator is a warm-monger.

BadgerHawk on December 16, 2009 at 12:19 PM

That is awesome! Can I steal, er, I mean borrow that phrase?

I cannot fully express the love I have for the Arctic Fox when she swats down little punks like Ah-nuld

ReaganConservative3 on December 16, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Goldwater/Reagan conservative here, so damn right I’ll complain. What else ya got genius?
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Really? I never once heard Reagan attack social conservatives. So while you might be a Goldwater conservative you missed the boat on Reagan.
chemman on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM

When I think of rabid, mindless hatred of conservatives I always think of Reagan, Goldwater and Palin.

And now I also think of people like dakin, proudrino and race card.

But I don’t really think of the second group in exactly the same way as the first.

logis on December 16, 2009 at 3:10 PM

a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

…and your problem with Palin?

Lets see, must be her actions as Governor. The state sent a bill to restrict same-sex couples benefits for state workers, and she vetoed it as not in line with her understanding of the state constitution.

So clearly she’s a fundamentalist crazy who is a disaster and Holgin is being played, she’s only for the fundamentalists; which makes vetoing their desire as not in line with the constitution… odd.

Oh wait, she’s a populist and a moral coward who chose veto a bill that the majority vote approved. Can I get a definition of populism and cowardice that covers an action taken in support of a document and not of the majority vote?

Maybe you believe the majority of voters would have been against this? I doubt it as Alaska voters approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. So populism is doing what is right even if the people won’t like it and the majority might not agree? Or is that cowardice?

Or maybe you’ve got something to support your name-calling against Palin? You haven’t shown it yet, but do you have anything at all beyond simple name calling?

gekkobear on December 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM

… the attack on Palin seems pretty strange, from a political point of view.

Not at all, when you consider Schwarzenegger’s personal investments in the Green economy. Schwarzenegger has gambled millions of dollars of his personal fortune on wind turbines (to be placed on BLM lands) and vast photovoltaic glass farms under construction by utility companies and private firms. Schwarzenegger’s play against AGW skeptics like Palin is motivated, first and foremost, by a selfish desire to profit from the Warmers movement and policies.

Wilbur on December 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Sarah pretty much pimp-slaps Arnold.

You have to like that.

molonlabe28 on December 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Arnuld is an airhead. Leggally blond.

Gov Palin has more cognitive ability that the governator can find.

seven on December 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Not at all, when you consider Schwarzenegger’s personal investments in the Green economy. Schwarzenegger has gambled millions of dollars of his personal fortune on wind turbines (to be placed on BLM lands) and vast photovoltaic glass farms under construction by utility companies and private firms. Schwarzenegger’s play against AGW skeptics like Palin is motivated, first and foremost, by a selfish desire to profit from the Warmers movement and policies.

Wilbur on December 16, 2009

Always follow the money.

SKYFOX on December 16, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Dakine…..you are as much of a Reagan conservative as Nancy Pelosi is. You trolls can’t lie to save your lives. True conservatives can see through you like a pane of glass. Keep trying though. Sniffing you guys out as become a hobby of mine.

Dan Pet on December 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Ha! Governator pwned by the ‘Cuda. If anywhere shows the fatuous illusions of “green economy”, then it’s California, which imports black energy from other states so that it can brag that its citizens pay much more than they need to for… well, for everything.

evergreen on December 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Ahnold lost what was left of his conservative credibility when he signed the ill-considered “Kyoto in California” bill into law. It has driven industries and jobs out of the state and raised energy prices for everyone still living here. It hasn’t done hardly anything to help global warming, even if you believe the theory, because those industries just move elsewhere, and California has to buy its “clean” electricity from coal-burning plants in Texas via over-stressed transmission lines that the state still hasn’t upgraded. This will probably to lead to more electrical shortages like the ones that led to former governor Grey Davis’s recall and Ahnold’s subsequent election. You’d think he’d have learned something from that.

Socratease on December 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

HAHAHA!!

Sarah just sent McCain a nice message.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

gekkobear on December 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM

You just HAD to try to explain to him…Didn’t the glazed look in his eyes, or the splittle on his lips tip you off? You cannot reason with him…but it was good of you to try…
Big tip-off–when a troll throws out it’s bait, without a reputable fact to back it up–don’t bother. It doesn’t WANT the facts–messes up it’s one track mind. He described Palin to a “t” and didn’t even realize it!

a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM

You think all of SP’s base are fundamentalist Christians? News Flash, I am a fan and I am in no way shape or form a Christian.

Holger on December 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Nor am I. Well, I’m Christian I suppose but certainly nowhere near being a fundamentalist.

NoLeftTurn on December 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Don’t think that is the real Sarah–it is an imposter–trying to nail her again…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM

We CAN NOT SPARE THIS WOMAN….she fights now we can add coburn and demint it seems

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM

I don’t post very often but like to read the comments daily.

I for one don’t understand the lefties that attack Sarah Palin. She has more experience in her little finger than THE ONE has in his whole body, what did he ever do? vote present and oh yeh he was a community organizer, (ACORN)

Hell even I could do better than that A## that we call president.

Maybe when Iran gets a long range missle it would be aimed at the WH.

concernedsenior on December 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Save the condescending BS Juno. But just for you: a strong national defense, appropriately limited, but smart government, fiscal responsibility, true free market principles (not corporatism and corporate socialism), and maximum personal liberty. What about you?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM

“Weee doggie! Jethro, looks like we got one of them ee-lite cun-servatives Mr Drysdale was talkin bout. Even likes Mr. Goldwater.”

“Sure ’nuff, Uncle Jed. Want I should get the shotgun?”

“No boy, you head out to the cement pond and fetch yer Granny. Looks like we may need some a her Rhumatiz medicine.”

“OK, Uncle Jed. Sure is a little feller, ain’t he?”

“Yep”

Hmmmm. Rattles off Palin’s basic platform but, oh wait, she’s a populist.

98ZJUSMC on December 16, 2009 at 4:46 PM

I swear, Sarah Palin would make Ronald Reagan proud.

pilamaye on December 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM

In other Sarah news, a Salt Lake City grocery store hides the tomatoes in hopes of preventing a repeat of the attack of the not so killer tomatoes that vaguely marred the Mall of American book signing, and the Governor for the Common Man forgot to pay her hairdresser (though, apparently staff is working to rectify that).

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Is that all you got?
Bwahahahahahaha!

mizflame98 on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Arnold quit trying when he lost those referendums.

He’s right about states and local communities doing their part–if it’s not under coercion by the Feds. But California is imposing its costs on the rest of the country.

Worse, its citizens are fleeing to other states, but often bizarrely vote for the same policies that made them flee.

California used to be the model. Now it’s model glue.

Don’t Sniff the Decline.

Noel on December 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I swear, Sarah Palin would make Ronald Reagan proud.

pilamaye on December 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I agree 100%. And unlike “Dakine” I was actally voting age during the Reagan era. Palin reminds me a great deal of Reagan.

But hey, don’t take it from me, but rather Reagan’s conservative son

Norwegian on December 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Well said.

jonezee on December 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Noel – Arnold’s strategy for the initiatives was a failure.

You go in the first year, put all your force behind one measure, probably restricting public-union spending on elections. Round one. Win that one, it makes the rest easier. Maybe you do redistricting reform at that point too, but no more than that. Defeat the bad guys one at a time instead of driving them all to the wall and forcing them to make common cause against you.

Instead, he went for the whole enchilada, and lost.

When he did, he flip-flopped completely and essentially went centrist-Democrat.

JEM on December 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Ed, thanks for your op-ed. Common sense. Too many thick skull heads in DC. The Governator had an interesting body language as soon as her name was mentioned.

He should read her book before opening his mouth. Oh, and try to decide which political party he really wants to be in.

ProudPalinFan on December 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM

HAHAHA!!

Sarah just sent McCain a nice message.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Great pictures. click the one with Trig kissing Palin adorable.

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM

MORE PROOF PALIN WON’T BE RUNNING IN 2012

Name one single politician that comes back and doesn’t put up with crap like her?

If she was really running she wouldn’t be violating the so-called 11th Commandment of GOP politics.

She either isn’t going to run and doesn’t have to care about stepping on toes or she’s going to run the most unconventional campaign in recent American History.

PappyD61 on December 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

The part I highlighted is what you got right.

There is absolutely no doubt she is running for President in 2012. None whatsoever.

And yes, she will do it like no other has. She will do it as a Republican.

People run to Reagan’s 11th commandment when it’s convenient, but forget that Reagan would rip another Republican to shreds if that’s what it took.

There’s a difference between ripping on someone just to score cheap political points (think Huckabee, Romney) and standing up for something.

Of course, you forget that it was Arnold who went after Sarah, not the other way around. Unless it’s now poor form to respond when attacked.

Maybe that’s one of those new “Sarah Palin only” rules, or something.

gary4205 on December 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Sarah Palin: Joyful Warrior, Joyful Leader

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/sarah-palin-joyful-warrior-joyful-leader/

gary4205 on December 16, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Great pictures. click the one with Trig kissing Palin adorable.

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Yeah but typical snarky text from TMZ.Hey..isnt that a disease?

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Yeah but typical snarky text from TMZ.Hey..isnt that a disease?

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM

I admit I didn’t read the captions just looked at the pictures all 5 were great and showed Palin as a real person. she was even working on vaction with her blacberry in the one

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 5:55 PM

JEM,

That sounds right. But even in loss, a leader regroups for another day, not folds up.

Arnold pushed that $4 billion cloning referendum that did pass–I bet he’d like that money back now.

It shows the basic flaw in “socially liberal/fiscally conservative”; when social liberalism needs money (aka “always”), fiscal conservatism takes a hike. By contrast, Ronnie left ‘em with a surplus.

Noel on December 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM

HAHAHA!!

Sarah just sent McCain a nice message.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Sweet!!! *having dinner, then fetch that Sharpie for my b-sticker*

ProudPalinFan on December 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM

I actually don’t believe that Palin is trying to endorse JD Hayworth or something stupid like that. It was probably something more prosaic like she thought that marking out the McCain on the hat would provide greater anonymity.

Not the smartest thing she’s ever done. Now she’s got to smooth things over with the McCain people.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment?

Because he has to be able live with Maria and her BFF Oprah?

Nalea on December 16, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I like her personally but we all can see the sheer folly in electing individuals based on personality instead of ability. Whomever the GOP nominates will have to clean up the mess left behind by the filthy lying coward in the White House and his corrupt party. Sarah Palin is far too nice for a job that will require a ruthless Attilla the Hun approach of governance.

highhopes on December 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

You’re kidding, right?

They have a saying in Alaska:

The Alaskan landscape is littered with the political corpses of those who have tangled with Sarah Palin.”

She is pretty much universally hated by the Alaskan GOP, because she introduced more than a few of them to the intimacies of the prison system. More than a few came to know FBI agents on a first name basis, and not by choice.

I think you’ll quickly find that there was a reason why her High School nickname, Sarahcuda, stuck!

You don’t tug on Superman’s cape, you don’t spit in the wind……

gary4205 on December 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM

HAHAHA!!

Sarah just sent McCain a nice message.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Yeah, it’s TMZ, but it’s still funny:

The failed Vice Presidential nominee took time off from shilling her book to vacation with her son Trig, daughter Piper and opposite sex spouse Todd, in President Barack Obama’s birth state of Hawaii on Tuesday.

“Opposite sex spouse”. LOL

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 6:17 PM

TMZ are bottomfeeders and swine.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Not the smartest thing she’s ever done. Now she’s got to smooth things over with the McCain people.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

screw the mccain people

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Not the smartest thing she’s ever done. Now she’s got to smooth things over with the McCain people.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Why? She’s “irrelevant”. LOL

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Why? She’s “irrelevant”. LOL

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Plus Arnold is part of the McCain people. he campaigned for McCain. Screw the McCain people. screw the Rino’s they can come for the ride but they need to pay for the gas and sit in the back. Let the smart people 9conservatives)drive for awhile so we stop getitng lost on these backwoods liberal dirt roads

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

“it takes some sheer, stoned stupidity”

And yet here you are bringing up one of the 21 ethics complaints that a judge through out citing

“the snow indicated the temp was cold”

and

In cold weather most people put coats

and

virtually every coat at that event had some sort of “moniker” on it.

DSchoen on December 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM

She’ll show loyalty to JMC, you watch.

In her book, she differentiates between the Staff and McCain himself. McCain has been reasonably nice to her on the air since she left the Governorship, because he knows she draws in the thousands. Palin, for her part, loves the guy, and can’t get the war hero thing out of her head. She’ll campaign for him and piss off some conservatives in the process.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM

She’ll show loyalty to JMC, you watch.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM

I think so too. This is just sh*t-stirring from TMZ.

ddrintn on December 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Up yours Arnold!! Shut your mouth Calefornea is bankrupt and you do not have any credibility left!!

build the wall on December 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM

DSchoen on December 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM

You have it wrong–he is referring to dakine’s name..
http://www.dakine.com/

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Hell even I could do better than that A## that we call president.
concernedsenior on December 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I call him many things but president is not one of them. I do, however, agree with your comments.

silvernana on December 16, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Not the smartest thing she’s ever done. Now she’s got to smooth things over with the McCain people.

victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Why? They already hate her. Fuk’em if they can’t take a joke.

BPD on December 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Ahnold has no support from Republicans or Democrats in California or beyond, and most of the warmers see emission standards and national wealth redistribution as inseparable issues.

Palin represents an honest American viewpoint on the subject. Nobody is advocating polluting as much as we can. We should reduce emissions and try to reduce our impact. We don’t need to tie that into wealth redistribution and global governance.

Ahnold’s attack is from out of nowhere and I don’t think I’d be picking too many fights with her – especially not one with an under reported scandal and public opinion moving against you.

To me that is asking for the hammer. Ahnold would be wise to drop this one.

Mr Purple on December 16, 2009 at 8:28 PM

It was incredibly stupid of Arnold to take on Sarah on this issue when its rather obvious to everyone that he’s been a complete and total failure as a governor.

The fact that he would seek to lecture someone who has demonstrated executive competence several magnitudes beyond his own is almost inconceivable. To hold out California as some sort of model of how business and the green machine can work together is startlingly ludicrous. How disconnected must this man be ?

johngalt on December 16, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Sarah Supports McCain 100 Percent:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30699.html

Sounds like the paparazzi was giving them a hard time, and once chased off, she was trying to look less like Sarah Palin.

gary4205 on December 16, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Actually the CA policies are working rather well for California. They have to… we have had substantial population growth but have managed to reduce demand for water and energy in this state. The wasteful spending and poor management of the state are seperate issues.

lexhamfox on December 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Sarah, we love you.

Cinday Blackburn on December 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Go Sarah Palin.

With businesses fleeing Arnold’s state ever single day, and tax payers with them, he is a fool to say anything. Look how great that environmentalism has been for the central valley, one of the world’s greatest producers of food is rapidly becoming a dustbowl and Arnold hasn’t got the know how to do anything about it. He proves a greater, and more foolish disappointment by the day.

California has enormous oil reserves off its coast, no one should feel sorry for a state tumbling into depression when it refuses to tap its own reserves. Not a penny of federal money should be offered to California until it is willing to help itself. Sadly we have to watch the entire state fade like its own central valley because the pols there – notably Arnold among them – have proven themselves incompetent fools.

Mr A on December 16, 2009 at 9:22 PM

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