Palin to Arnold: How’s that green economy working for California, pal?

posted at 12:15 pm on December 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After Arnold Schwarzenegger criticized Sarah Palin’s stance on global warming yesterday, few thought it would take long for Palin to respond.  She launched a broadside on her Facebook page, and reminded California’s governor that the “grain of salt” the Governator recommended should be taken with economic advice from the leader of a state in free-fall and unable to budget its money properly.  Even if the world is warming, it doesn’t mean that the warming is either anthropogenic or catastrophic — and conservation doesn’t mean killing the economy:

Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change. While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters.

As Allahpundit noted, the attack on Palin seems pretty strange, from a political point of view.  After all, Palin has been a bit of a moderate on climate change, not a “denier” or even a skeptic.  Having her as an arms-length ally would make a lot more sense to the AGW True Believers, who could (a) leverage her influence on the Right to get some momentum for action, and (b) marginalize skeptics and “deniers” by using Palin in that sense.  Even “practical changes” could give enough movement to declare some victories in the US.

This demonstrates that Schwarzenegger cares more about the electoral politics involved than the climate change issues, and he’s not the only one.  The AGW True Believers aren’t interested in working with people to build consensus towards a compromise; they want to dictate their solutions and use questionable science and sky-is-falling hysteria to get it.  Sarah Palin is the canary in the coal mine, so to speak, that demonstrates this.

And Palin’s right to skewer Arnold on economics.  When California shows that it has the fiscal responsibility to actually cut its spending and bring its budget into balance while not overburdening its citizens with oppressive taxes and regulation, then perhaps its governor can offer advice on economics and policy.  Until then, Arnold should mind his own store and save his wit for the state legislature.


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I just love reading Palin spin and hedge on Climate Change. Funny stuff. Plus, saying that California’s environmental policies are what caused the current economic problems in California is kind of like saying letting Marian Anderson sing at the Lincoln Memorial in 1939 caused World War II. Epic logic fail, Palin.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I thought conservatives were supposed to be the ones who had trouble appreciating nuanced reasoning. It seems to me that Palin has a healthy take on the matter.

There is nothing wrong with being careful with the environment, but not at the expense of the economy through the use of cap and tax schemes that benefit only an elite core of true believers.

By the way P-Rino, would you mind changing up your post format. You’ll never get promoted out of the boiler room if all Rahm and Axelrod see is:

Blah, blah, blah, blah, Palin, blah, blah, blah.

Epic fail

Lazy work. You said the same thing yesterday. Try harder next time, mmmmkay?

Nat Hound on December 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

In other Sarah news, a Salt Lake City grocery store hides the tomatoes in hopes of preventing a repeat of the attack of the not so killer tomatoes that vaguely marred the Mall of American book signing, and the Governor for the Common Man forgot to pay her hairdresser (though, apparently staff is working to rectify that).

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM

If she was really running she wouldn’t be violating the so-called 11th Commandment of GOP politics.
PappyD61 on December 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

No offense, but does that rule apply to Rino’s?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM

She either isn’t going to run and doesn’t have to care about stepping on toes or she’s going to run the most unconventional campaign in recent American History.

Yeah, it will be the second thing you said. That’s Sarah: Going rogue.

NoLeftTurn on December 16, 2009 at 12:58 PM

There’s nothing strange about this politically. In fact, it’s all too predictable. Palin has been turned into a caricature by the MSM. They live in the extremes when it comes to coverage of her and that’s what informs many. People don’t bother to read what she says most of the time. Instead they rely on what the MSM says about what she said. As a resident of California I can assure you that Arnold, like the majority of my fellow Californians, sucks.

Stickeehands on December 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Throw in the nutjobs liberals and the whole stinking mess wouldn’t be missed if it were to be dropped into the Pacific.

Think of the pollution. Patchouli oil slick.

Aviator on December 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Arnold is a complete and total failure as leader. And like many failures, he needs to attack other to deflect attention from his own gross incompetence. He’s learned the lesson taught to him by his in-laws very well. Now he can rot in Hell for all I care. He was all promise and no results.

TheBigOldDog on December 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM

***
Great Army or Marine snipers can hit their target with a single shot from more than a mile away.
***
The Sarah’Cuda can hit a liberal Gubernator with a single Facebook shot all the way from Alaska!!
***
SARAH PALIN for POTUS in 2012–JOHN BOLTON for V.P. The AMERICA FIRST ticket. Bend over and kiss your A** goodbye, Comrade Obama (PBUH). The Sarah’Cuda has you in her sights–and the CorruptocRATS of both political parties know it. And so does the AMERICAN PRAVDA (not MSM) media.
***
John Bibb
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rocketman on December 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Norweigan on December 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Did you hear Rush Limbaugh’s battle plan yesterday for the 2010 midterms. A part of his strategy was “no more RINO’s”.

I think either Sarah got the memo from Rush, she gave it to him or that it was a mutual collaboration.

But whatever Sarah has launched a shot across the bow of the RINO’s and their position on climate change.

technopeasant on December 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Sarah: “BOOM! Taste my nightstick!”

Love. Her. ;)

repalincan on December 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Lord, please make her run for POTUS as the Republican candidate. I look forward to the hysteria that would likely breakout by so many far-left-of-center souls when she is sworn into office in 2013. :D

itzWicks on December 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Epic logic fail, Palin Proud Rino.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

FIFY–ultimate oxymoron…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM

If she was really running she wouldn’t be violating the so-called 11th Commandment of GOP politics.
PappyD61 on December 16, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Which in fact Reagan also “violated” when people ridiculed him.. but he did it with wit.

I am sorry… if someone is going to say something, do you usually just walk away? I don’t think so.

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Sarah: I’ll be back.

kahall on December 16, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Like every other Palin Thread, the Trolls are coming out in force. The smell of fear is a sweet aroma.

Oy vey. Again with the “fear” thing. Yes, it’s true. Every criticism of Sarah Palin is because people know how brilliant she is and, as a result, are scared of her. Every single one, from every source. All the time. I mean, what else could it be?

*sigh*

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

*sigh*

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Ok I get your “It isn’t fear” thing. So WTF is it? Can you explain that since we (as in even people who don’t like her) are getting annoyed by the lies?

I will wait, with baited breath!

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:04 PM

It’s practically a socialist workers’ paradise up there. (Alaska)

Except for the weather.

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

You obviously have no idea of the history of Alaska or why it was obtained by the US as a state. It was Alaska’s oil resources and close proximity to Russia that made it desirable. Unlike the rest of the country, the people of Alaska believed her resources were owned by everyone, that is why they are payed by the government and energy companies for their use.

You imply that Alaskans are lazy and living off the federal government. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Jvette on December 16, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Lord, please make her run for POTUS as the Republican candidate. I look forward to the hysteria that would likely breakout by so many far-left-of-center souls when she is sworn into office in 2013.

Would it be anything like the breakout among some right-of-center reaction we’ve seen since January?

It’s called politics. Of course people go into hysterics when their political opposite is elected. The reaction would be the same if Romney, Huck, or Pawlenty were to win.

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

You’re right to call Palin a ‘moderate’ on this issue. She has, at times, received praise from environmentalists. It’s when she wouldn’t buy into their politics that they’ve come after her. She is pro-science, all the way, and I fully expect, if she does ever become president, to spearhead the cause to bring respect back to the scientific community. The ClimateGate scandal is going to do to the scientific community what the pedophile scandal did to the Catholic Faith. Palin is the daughter of a science teacher and was raised being constantly exposed to the scientific method. It makes no sense to go after her on this….but since they have, it may very well embolden her to do something if she’s President, for the scientific community to save face. She’ll help them in fostering the respect responsible scientists deserve.

gocatholic on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Lazy work. You said the same thing yesterday.

Nat Hound on December 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM

It was true yesterday too.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Dear former Governor GRAY DAVIS,

I APOLOGIZE for voting your OUT of OFFICE and replacing you with Arnold.

You were a much better governor than Arnie, and you were terrible.

originalpechanga on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Are you talking about Obowma?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Not too original Juno. No, I’m talking about Palin. This thread is about Palin and Arnold, no? Obama has his own problems, but maybe you should stay on topic. Oh, and be more original.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Hitchens gets to the essence…Doesn’t speak well for many of you being played by this vacuous populist a$$.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

That fact that you quoted Hitches disqualified you right out of the gate–but thanks for the laugh…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

It’s kind of hard to see it any other way when her detractors continually prove themselves incapable of having any kind of reasonable debate about her and instead just resort to lies and ad hominem attacks.

NoLeftTurn on December 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Oy vey. Again with the “fear” thing. Yes, it’s true. Every criticism of Sarah Palin is because people know how brilliant she is and, as a result, are scared of her. Every single one, from every source. All the time. I mean, what else could it be?

*sigh*

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Some of it is that the trolls think she is easy pickings because of how she was handled in the campaign and how they were able to marginalize W through relentless mockery and derision.

Bad news, gang. You’re about 15 months too slow. Left to her own devices, Sarah Palin can and will fight back. Your days of trying to “Tina Fey” or “Crazy Andy” Palin are over.

Nat Hound on December 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Parody: Green Jobs Program to Recycle Two Non-Green Jobs for Every One New Green Job Created http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/10/green-jobs-program-to-recycle-two-non.html

Mervis Winter on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Charles Johnson.. don’t you have a blog to update?

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Not too original Juno. No, I’m talking about Palin. This thread is about Palin and Arnold, no? Obama has his own problems, but maybe you should stay on topic. Oh, and be more original.
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Shouldn’t you follow your own advice?

Palin vacuous, quitter, populist, blah, blah, blah.

darwin on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

How about a Palin Bauchman Ticket?

You want something done right, you get women!

2nd Ammendment Mother on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Hitchens gets to the essence of Palin once again…”a disgraceful opportunist and a real moral coward”.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe#34429103

Doesn’t speak well for many of you being played by this vacuous populist.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Saw that… of course, hitchens completely lied about and mis-characterized her position and her op-ed. You didn’t mention that.

BPD on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Smackdown by the Artic Fox.

kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM

After reading this….. it made me think of this:
AN ASS, having put on the Lion’s skin, roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met in his wanderings. At last coming upon a Fox, he tried to frighten him her also, but the Fox no sooner heard the sound of his voice than he exclaimed, “I might possibly have been frightened myself, if I had not heard your bray.”

I’ve seen attributed to both Shakespeare and Aesop’s Fables, nonetheless I thought it was fitting… =)

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

You’re right, that’s too Kind of a description of the Statist in Chief.

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Sarah embodies what led to American exceptionalism, and she, therefore, irritates a lot of people.

GaltBlvnAtty on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM

How’s that rash coming BB? You know rumaging in the garbage can give you the runs…better have lots of TP for all the sh*t you seem to be full of…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Mervis Winter on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

That’s no parody. That’s Spain… soon to be the USA.

BPD on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

That fact that you quoted Hitches disqualified you right out of the gate–but thanks for the laugh…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Why so? What do you think about his take on Afghanistan?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

As Allahpundit noted, the attack on Palin seems pretty strange, from a political point of view.

Since when is it “strange” for a politician to want unlimited free airtime?

logis on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

That fact that you quoted Hitches disqualified you right out of the gate–but thanks for the laugh…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Yeah, I am shocked that an elitist Marxist like Hitchens would dislike Palin. I really have to re-evaluate my admiration for her…. /sarc

Norwegian on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Since when is it “strange” for a politician to want unlimited free airtime?

logis on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Yeah you are correct. Obama is on almost EVERY night, during Primetime!

Hmmmm… explain that one Logis!

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Hitchens gets to the essence of Palin once again…”a disgraceful opportunist and a real moral coward”.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe#34429103

Doesn’t speak well for many of you being played by this vacuous populist.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

LOL using the drunk as a judge of morality?You sure he didnt say”disshhh..grasheful opportunisssht! *hic* You HAVE to be charles dingle johnson

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

I wouldn’t say it if it was not true. Sarah Palin does not play by the rules of the Beltway Elite. She was expected to remain as Governor of Alaska and stay vulnerable to the Liberal-financed attack on her and her family. She chose to step down and connect with the American people via the new Media and the writing of a best selling book. And the only thing her detractors can do now is launch ad hominem attacks consisting of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Why so? What do you think about his take on Afghanistan?
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Gee, isn’t that off topic?

This thread is about Palin and Arnold, no? Obama has his own problems, but maybe you should stay on topic.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Oy vey. Again with the “fear” thing. Yes, it’s true. Every criticism of Sarah Palin is because people know how brilliant she is and, as a result, are scared of her. Every single one, from every source. All the time. I mean, what else could it be?

*sigh*

YYZ on December 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM

If not fear, than why all the irrational hatred? The woman isn’t even running for anything and it only takes a mere mention of her name for the underside of bridges to empty out and all the billygoats to be left untended. If she is as irrelevant as you suggest, you tell us why there is so much hatred running amok.

BTW, I am not a Palin fan. I like her personally but we all can see the sheer folly in electing individuals based on personality instead of ability. Whomever the GOP nominates will have to clean up the mess left behind by the filthy lying coward in the White House and his corrupt party. Sarah Palin is far too nice for a job that will require a ruthless Attilla the Hun approach of governance.

highhopes on December 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

True Juno..point taken, but I wasn’t “talking” to you so STFU.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM

This thread is about Palin and Arnold, no? Obama has his own problems, but maybe you should stay on topic.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM

You mean like Americans waking up to the fact that the filthy lying coward is unfit for office? That’s he’s a fraud? That he’s a terrorist-loving radical and Chicago street thug?

We all have an Obama problem.

highhopes on December 16, 2009 at 1:18 PM

just love reading Palin spin and hedge on Climate Change. Funny stuff. Plus, saying that California’s environmental policies are what caused the current economic problems in California is kind of like saying letting Marian Anderson sing at the Lincoln Memorial in 1939 caused World War II. Epic logic fail, Palin.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

You might want to work a bit on your reading comprehension. Emphasizing your comment… “evironmental policies are what caused the current prolems in California”…when this is what was ACTUALLY said….

Palin: “Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment? ”

HELPED. She never said it was the main, and, or only cause. She said those policies helped. And she’s right. The state has become so oppressive with it’s taxes, and restrictions, people are leaving in droves.

capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 1:19 PM

In other Sarah news, a Salt Lake City grocery store hides the tomatoes in hopes of preventing a repeat of the attack of the not so killer tomatoes that vaguely marred the Mall of American book signing, and the Governor for the Common Man forgot to pay her hairdresser (though, apparently staff is working to rectify that).

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Christ you people follow her more closely than the SarahPAC email folks. What color were her nails this morning?

Khorum on December 16, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

THAT explains why you have been spining your wheels in place…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:20 PM

If not fear, than why all the irrational hatred? The woman isn’t even running for anything and it only takes a mere mention of her name for the underside of bridges to empty out and all the billygoats to be left untended. If she is as irrelevant as you suggest, you tell us why there is so much hatred running amok.

LMAO!

BTW, I am not a Palin fan. I like her personally but we all can see the sheer folly in electing individuals based on personality instead of ability. Whomever the GOP nominates will have to clean up the mess left behind by the filthy lying coward in the White House and his corrupt party. Sarah Palin is far too nice for a job that will require a ruthless Attilla the Hun approach of governance.
highhopes on December 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

The fact is that Any Conservative candidate can expect to be attacked this way – It’s like the NSM has decided it’s more important to support the Statists than pretend to be objective journalists.

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:21 PM

highhopes at 1:16
I disagree with your opinion that Sarah is not tough enough to do the job that you accurately describe will need to be done.

GaltBlvnAtty on December 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM

True Juno..point taken, but I wasn’t “talking” to you so STFU.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Yet it IS a Forum in which MANY can react and speak to you.

So how about you GTFU and STFU yourself!!!

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM

And as the Norm… YYZ can’t answer my question.

Typical.

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Charles Johnson.. don’t you have a blog to update?

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

And a calendar…
http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/conservative-satire/little-green-footballscharles-johnson-calendar-infomercial/

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM

True Juno..point taken, but I wasn’t “talking” to you so STFU.
dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Ohh – what the matter?
Woke up under the wrong side of the bridge this morning?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Loved it! +++

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Funny stuff. Plus, saying that California’s environmental policies are what caused the current economic problems in California is kind of like saying letting Marian Anderson sing at the Lincoln Memorial in 1939 caused World War II. Epic logic fail, Palin.

Proud Rino on December 16, 2009 at 12:48 PM

If you’re too dense to see how California’s regulatory environment impacts it economic growth, and therefore government revenues, perhaps it would be wise for you to not comment on the logic abilities of someone with actual accomplishments beyond “Internet chest thumper.”

CDeb on December 16, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Funny stuff. Plus, saying that California’s environmental policies are what caused the current economic problems in California

Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits

“helped drive” is not the same as “caused”. Epic logic fail, Rino.

h0mi on December 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Why so? What do you think about his take on Afghanistan?

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Because….Hitchens…is…an…a$$. And a liar, but mostly an a$$. Afghanistan? Stay on topic much?

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Sarah Palin is far too nice for a job that will require a ruthless Attilla the Hun approach of governance.

highhopes on December 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

BUZZZ!wrong!You do know she risked her entire political career going after corruption in her party,right??And as Guv she followed through,making many political enemies in her own party?Name me one person,in either party,who was “tough” enough to do that…

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did! =)

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Yet it IS a Forum in which MANY can react and speak to you.
So how about you GTFU and STFU yourself!!!
upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Tango Yankee.

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM

To Governor Schwarzenegger:

For some time you have been attacking me
Unnecessarily.

Could it be you are trying to deflect attention from your
kicking the can down the alley in California?

You should be providing Californians the leadership they
overwhelmingly deserve. In light of this it is
unnecessary to respond to your idiotic attacks.

Sincerely,

The Cuda

TheBigOldDog on December 16, 2009 at 1:31 PM

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Ohh – what the matter?
Woke up under the wrong side of the bridge this morning?

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Hmm, he and bleeds must have the same rash…????

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:33 PM

LOL using the drunk as a judge of morality?You sure he didnt say”disshhh..grasheful opportunisssht! *hic* You HAVE to be charles dingle johnson

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM

Czar, who writes your material? Hilarious stuff. “charles dingle johnson”? Pure comedy gold. Memo to Czar and all the other fundamentalist drones who post here: you don’t have to agree with everything a particular individual has to say in order to conclude that he/she has made a cogent point. Czar, from your post, I would conclude that a falling down, blacked out drunk Hitch is 100x smarter than a stone cold sober you. Stay out of the deep end dipshit.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Hah i knew it!The frogger charles johnson just recently put up a post attacking Palin over this very same subject..then “dakine” shows up here spouting the same type of crap .This isnt the first time dakine johnson did this.What a punk this dude turned out to be.

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:36 PM

well are you or are you not the infamous frogger?

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Czar, from your post, I would conclude that a falling down, blacked out drunk Hitch is 100x smarter than a stone cold sober you. Stay out of the deep end dipshit.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM

If this is what you conclude, then no wonder your “logic” is an epic failure…keep ‘em coming, we need some comic relief today…

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Charles Johnson.. don’t you have a blog to update?

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Hey upinak, you might enjoy this. The vid is hilarious.

http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/something_wonderfully_vic.php

H/T: maverick muse

Geochelone on December 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Umm no “fundie” here.Nor am i a “zealot” about AGW or creationism,or frog boiling

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Even uses”fundamentalist” as a putdown..just like the frogger

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Geochelone on December 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Never mind, I have been scooped again.

Geochelone on December 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Geochelone on December 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Later .. I will watch it later. I got works to do!

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Chris Hitchens was a Thatcher/Reagan basher back in the day, he was wrong then and he’s wrong now whatever moments of clarity he’s had along the way. His stridency against expansionist Islam is driven by his general mistrust of all things religious, and his distaste for any politician who’d dare to be seen near a church of pretty much any flavor.

Though like so many Brits infected with the weevil of climate change munching at their cortices, I guess he fails to see the cultlike traits in the mass warmist hysteria.

JEM on December 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Hitchens gets to the essence of Palin once again…”a disgraceful opportunist and a real moral coward”.

Doesn’t speak well for many of you being played by this vacuous populist.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Don’t know which is more ridiculous – a simpering heathen left-wing loon columnist lecturing Palin on morality and courage or someone thinking this constitutes her supporters being played.

katiejane on December 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM

In other news, Schwarzenegger has been hospitalized for severe burn wounds…

ReformedAndDangerous on December 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

In other news, Schwarzenegger has been hospitalized for severe burn wounds…

ReformedAndDangerous on December 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Ahhhh hahahahahahaha! Nice =)

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Still waiting for you to answer my question from yesterday’s Gitmo thread-how is it cheaper to prevent terrorists from becoming terrorists, than to go out and hunt them down and kill them?

Del Dolemonte on December 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Charles Johnson.. don’t you have a blog to update?

upinak on December 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Heh. Yeah, he and his three “readers” (aka sockpuppets) haven’t accused anyone of raaaaacism in a whole 5 minutes.

BlueStateBilly on December 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Don’t know which is more ridiculous – a simpering heathen left-wing loon columnist lecturing Palin on morality and courage or someone thinking this constitutes her supporters being played.

katiejane on December 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM

But, but, Hitchens supported the War on Terror!! So that means anything he says about conservatives must be true! /dakine logic off

Never mind that he is a card-carrying Communist who hated Reagan & Thatcher.

Norwegian on December 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I would bet a MILLION bucks if an election were held tommorrow between Palin and Obama, that Palin would win.

royzer on December 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

katie, Palin will tell you whatever you want to hear. She’s a typical populist politician. She’s pandering. She’s a fiction of your imagination. There’s nothing there. “Heathen”? Really? LOL

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Bleeds Blue on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Still waiting for you to answer my question from yesterday’s Gitmo thread-how is it cheaper to prevent terrorists from becoming terrorists, than to go out and hunt them down and kill them?
Del Dolemonte on December 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

That is a very good question – the answer would have to address the human toll as well as the monetary.

My guess would that preventing terrorists from becoming terrorists wouldn’t cost anything in human lives, that enough should prove that is the better course of action.

But maybe we could have one of the Leftists elites answer that – after all they are the smartest people In the solar system. /sarc

[apologies to dakine, this comment being OT]

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM

katie, Palin will tell you whatever you want to hear. She’s a typical populist politician. She’s pandering. She’s a fiction of your imagination. There’s nothing there. “Heathen”? Really? LOL

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Really so shes for socialized health care,Charles?And she believes in AGW ?And shes for higher taxes?If anyones a flip-flopper its you.How does Soros’ gonads taste anyway?

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM

She’s pandering to her “base” dipshit. Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Though Palin is too classy to do it, I would have loved a short letter from her where the layout of the paragraph left each sentence starting with an ‘F’. Then a ‘U’, a ‘C’.

Thunderstorm129 on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM

What would be hilarious and not the slightest bit out of line would be to do it so that it spelled B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T.

Pablo on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Find myself wondering more and more if the GOP might not be better off without Arnold.

jeanie on December 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

LOL another concern frogger.If she just wanted to pander,why doesnt she move left?Cocktail parties,Newsweek covers with halos around her head,etc,etc.Shed be praised more than Obama.So why wont she do that?

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Pablo on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

That’s even funnier. =)

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

The fact is that Any Conservative candidate can expect to be attacked this way…
Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 1:21 PM

ANY conservative can be attacked like this, but EVERY conservative can’t. The Arlinsky pattern of personalized propaganda must always have a figurehead on which to focus. If it weren’t Sarah Palin, then all of this bile would simply be focused on the next-most-prominent conservative leader.

And that’s why all the so-called “conservatives” who pile on with the moonbats against Palin are so especially repulsive.

It’s like we’re sitting in trenches. One guy jumps up to draw the enemy’s fire and, instead of taking advantage of this golden opportunity, somebody on our side of the line starts shooting him in the back — because they think he’s “stupid” to make such a target of himself. Besides, he must have done something to make the enemy so gosh-darned mad at all of us, and maybe it’ll help the other side feel better about us if we all join in a common cause for once.

logis on December 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Her base being you and the rest of the fundamentalist loons who have hijacked/destroyed the conservative movement in this country.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM

What you mean the “conservatives”in Alaska she had put in jail?Yeah we meed more of those types!

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Allow me to explain this to you:

Ahnuld is a body builder and sort of an actor.

He’s not a brain. He’s not even sort of diplomatic. He has no ear for politics and no skill at getting things done.

He is a bad. If he played World of Warcraft, he would stand in fire. If was a mathematician, he would divide by zero.

TheUnrepentantGeek on December 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Palin NEVER panders. That’s what sets her apart from the majority of the left. In fact, I’d like to get a tee shirt or hat with ‘Palin NEVER panders’ on it. I’d wear it to church and prayer meetings!

jeanie on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

dakine

Who takes the corporate brand name of second-rate ski/snowboard accessories favored by trustafarians for a moniker?

I mean, it takes some sheer, stoned stupidity to do that and question others’ intellect.

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Hmm im a fundamentalist loon because i think AGW is a crock of sh*T?Whatever,man.

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

“greener than thou”

I love it.

Bumper stickers! T-shirts!

ThePrez on December 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM

After reading this….. it made me think of this:
AN ASS, having put on the Lion’s skin, roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met in his wanderings. At last coming upon a Fox, he tried to frighten him her also, but the Fox no sooner heard the sound of his voice than he exclaimed, “I might possibly have been frightened myself, if I had not heard your bray.”

I’ve seen attributed to both Shakespeare and Aesop’s Fables, nonetheless I thought it was fitting… =)

HouseHold6 on December 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I actually thought about this when I saw the quote.

Chaz706 on December 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Who takes the corporate brand name of second-rate ski/snowboard accessories favored by trustafarians for a moniker?

I mean, it takes some sheer, stoned stupidity to do that and question others’ intellect.

Doorgunner on December 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Its Charles Johnson.LOL Im sure of it.

theTarCzar on December 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM

True Juno..point taken, but I wasn’t “talking” to you so STFU.

dakine on December 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM

You can only talk to flight attendants that way Chuck Schumer….I mean dakine.

portlandon on December 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM

logis on December 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Yes, I am sick and tired of the ‘we can’t support x, because she will be a lighting rod for the Left’ – and what they don’t remember is all the other Conservatives that have been the focus of these same types of attacks.

Juno77 on December 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Why would Arnold care about electoral politics? He is a lame duck with no future in politics by his own admission. He is an idiot though.

echosyst on December 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM

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