Coburn fires warning shot across Senate Democrats’ bow; Update: DeMint joins Coburn, video statement added; Update: DeMint threatens to do the same to entire bill
posted at 12:55 pm on December 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Earlier today, Senator Bernie Sanders introduced an amendment to the Reid version of ObamaCare that would have established a single-payer health-care system in the US. No one expected this to go anywhere; in fact, most people shrugged at its introduction as simply a sop, especially since the public option and Medicare buy-in couldn’t get 60 votes, let alone an explicit single-payer system. However, Tom Coburn made it into news by following through on a warning from last month, as Philip Klein reports:
Sen. Tom Coburn has just demanded that the Senate clerk read the single-payer amendment offered by Sen. Bernie Sanders — and it’s 767 pages.
Typically, Senators offering amendments will ask for unanimous consent to avoid reading the entire meausure, but all it takes is one Senator to object to demand its reading, and Coburn objected to Sanders attempt to dispense with the reading of the amendment.
This is transparency in action.
The Senate’s chief socialist, Bernie Sanders, offered a single-payer health care amendment. It would open Medicare to all regardless of age, income, etc., and would be paid through higher income taxes. The normal procedure on the Senate floor would have been to dispense with the reading of the amendment. But “to alert taxpayers to this latest Washington scheme to take away your health care decisions,” Senator Coburn’s office writes, Sen. Coburn demanded that the full text of the 767 page Sanders amendment be read by the Senate clerk. …
Big Nanny dreams and schemes laid bare.
It took eighteen minutes just to get through the table of contents … for an amendment. Philip says the pace picked up a bit afterward, and the entire amendment could be read within about 12 hours. That’s twelve hours of floor time, assuming Coburn keeps withholding unanimous consent.
What does this do? It makes a hash out of Harry Reid’s plan to move the bill through the Senate by Christmas. Twelve hours of floor time for just a single amendment means that no other business can be conducted until at least Friday. Coburn apparently launched this effort in response to an attempt by Reid to shove the bill to a cloture vote without giving everyone enough time to read the bill or peruse the CBO analysis, due this week.
It’s a reminder that even with a supermajority, Reid needs to work with the minority to keep momentum. He can’t pull a Nancy Pelosi jamdown in the upper chamber, and any further attempts will mean weeks of bill reading as the legislation effectively filibusters itself.
Update: Watch it here.
Update II: Here’s Corburn’s statement before the reading, and Max Baucus’ response::
“I cannot certify that members of the Senate can understand what they’re reading.”
Hence, Coburn’s effort to force the reading. Baucus objected to Coburn’s proposal, and now Coburn’s objecting to unanimous consent to dispense with the reading of the bill. Jim DeMint has joined Coburn:
“Democrats are playing a bait and switch trick — wasting our time debating a bill they’ve rejected while writing a new one in secret. Right now, behind closed doors, Democrats are writing a brand new bill, thousands of pages long, and want to rush it through before Christmas.”
“Americans are tired of watching their leaders in Washington pass bills they haven’t even bothered to read,” said Senator DeMint. “If Senator Reid won’t slow down this debate, we will do it for him. This bill allows the federal government to take over our health care system, and it must be stopped. We will use whatever procedural tools are necessary to defeat this bill.”
Update IV: According to HA reader Hannah B, DeMint just announced that he would force a reading of the entire bill, too.










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Finally the republicans are starting to play hardball. It was way past time.
duff65 on December 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
The troops I know would be applauding Coburn right now. They’ve got families who’ll be screwed with the rest of us if this garbage passes.
Also, what this liar, Reid, conveniently ignores is that, with consent, the reading could be suspended at any time to take up any appropriations bill. The reading would be resumed after the final vote on that other bill.
TXUS on December 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
If this works, then the timing will have been impeccable.
Dhuka on December 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM
As a South Carolinian who begrudgingly left the Palmetto State before Mr. DeMint ran for office, I couldn’t be prouder of my home state.
SouthernGent on December 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM
AMENDMENT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN
txag92 on December 16, 2009 at 2:45 PM
F%k! No!
Damnit!
Enoxo on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Bernie Sanders is railing against the Republicans.
txag92 on December 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Next, withdraw the bill.
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Madman!
Abby Adams on December 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM
There’s still Harry’s manager’s amendment, which, according to AOSHQ, essentialy re-writes the bill. Wonder how many pages the amendment, not to mention the entire bill, encompass. And each can be required to be read.
Also, the CBO score is not in yet, perhaps because this is another vapor bill, which is not written, except for some concepts, reportedly.
Wethal on December 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Also, what this liar, Reid, conveniently ignores is that, with consent, the reading could be suspended at any time to take up any appropriations bill. The reading would be resumed after the final vote on that other bill.
TXUS on December 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Typical Reid. Lets see, his last major statement was that opposing this bill was like slave owners protecting slavery. At least, we should get rid of Harry next year.
duff65 on December 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM
I think that’s called having a hissy fit. Just wait until they have to read the whole bill.
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM
They are so making them read the managers amendment and the bill.
This isn’t over.
gophergirl on December 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Madman!
Abby Adams on December 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Dude is nuts.
txag92 on December 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Sanders just said he knew this amendment would not pass but promises that single-payer will be in the final version of the bill.
You mean they’ve been lying to us? /sarc
fogw on December 16, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Well, the amendment was pulled and he’s soooo angry.
spkthed on December 16, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Media is livid…front page of Yahoo.com
Schadenfreude on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Let me know when his head explodes.
You know, these socialist creeps act like they can’t come out of the closet. They love to discuss their views with their elite friends, but they have no desire to let the rest of the country know who they really are. They can’t defend their positions.
Socialism is nothing but a “Get Rich Quick!” scheme for losers who couldn’t make it in the private sector.
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Seriously. He’s up there waving his hands, yelling at the top of his lungs, all disheveled.
Off his rocker.
Abby Adams on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Amendment withdrawn or not, I just did the same and thanked him for representing me when my own worthless Senators do not (and mine are Republican)! Looks like Bennett will have a great primary challenger so that could change.
Anyway, let’s hope Senator Coburn and others will keep this up. So what if the other side does it later. There’s no need for a 1000 page bill.
OldManC on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Maybe we should actually get back in power first before worrying about what Dems will do.
xblade on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
It is about freakin time. Entire bill should be read aloud to each and every congress person before they are allowed to vote, including the House. Its bigger than the bible for Obamas sake.
CriticalUpdate on December 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Some of the better news I have heard today. How do we congratulate this man? He deserves our support.
Meremortal on December 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I think this guy is off his rocker. I think he’s making up the numbers for those that support a single payer plan.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM
So now they are going to vote on the defense bill right? Since Reid said the reading of the amendment was the only thing holding up that bill.
Yeah and I look like Cindy Crawford.
gophergirl on December 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Off his rocker.
Abby Adams on December 16, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Not sure where he got that over 80% of doctors want single payer.
txag92 on December 16, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Not surprised. The way the Coburn strategy will work the best is on an amendment that the Dems have the votes to pass.
Good job Doc Coburn!
TXUS on December 16, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Watching Bernie is like watching a beserk sick older man stuck in a hospital bed who can’t get his catheter changed because there’s only attendants on the floor and NO NURSES, just like there will be if his command and control socialist wishes ever come true. I think the toxins have backed up into his brain.
Western_Civ on December 16, 2009 at 2:53 PM
I know how the donks can avoid reading the final version of the healthcare bill.
Withdraw it.
fogw on December 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Mad man Bernie sanders needs anger management. Wonder iif senate healthcare pays for it?
Now he is lying. He claims the medicare for all bill needs passed. insurance has too much fraud. This week Medicare fraud by the tens of millions was discovered. They don’t need this bill to clean up medicare.
Sanders is a nut case. It is legal in America to be stupid.
This the single payor system Obama wanted.
As an accountant, a single payer can control costs. It did in Russia and China.
seven on December 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM
After the reading is over, now that Lieberman has been bought off, the ONLY person standing between the best health care system in the world and socialized medicine is Ben Nelson. Shudder, shudder. That’s like depending on Nancy Pelosi’s looks to win a beauty pageant.We need a hero!
MaiDee on December 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Been over at Huffpo reading the comments, very entertaining:
Renae on December 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM
This guy is crazy. I think he needs to get a clue as to what really is going on in the US. He just said the Pharmacutials are making too much money but didn’t they just vote down a measure that would reduce costs. This guy is insane, I’m not joking. This guys needs to stop now.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Heck, the Republicans that still have a backbone ought to be doing this with EVERY AMENDMENT on EVERY BILL.
And I’m in favor of this no matter what party is ‘in control.’
We are a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, where the politicians have stopped representing us as a whole.
Slow things down, and maybe some real work will get done.
Keith_Indy on December 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Amen, brother!
Bruno Strozek on December 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Just heard on Rush that the SEIU is pulling out their support now.
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM
brat
hat is Bernie he is a socialist, he voted FOR the RX Bill, he is mad b/c he likely just got a CLUE that Obama is a total sell out
ginaswo on December 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Now THAT is Smart Power–it’s about time that the Republican’s found their b*lls…It’s been sad know that Sarah had more than they did…
lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM
House of cards…
lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Now he’s talking about GM and how they pay much more for Health Care than all the other companies out there. Now who’s fault is that.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM
OUTF**KING STANDING, TOM COBURN AND JIM DEMINT!!!!
These guys just made Sarah Palin’s short list. Coburn, especially. A bigger swinging pair doesn’t exist in the entire so called “Beltway” GOP.
By God, that’s what I call fighting for liberty!
victor82 on December 16, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Let’s get those ads on the air with Howard Dean saying KILL THE BILL.
Western_Civ on December 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM
READ THE ENTIRE 2000 PAGE BILL!!! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LONG AGO, AND IT CAN BE DONE REPEATEDLY!!! THE HEALTHCARE BILL CAN BE GROUND TO A HALT FOR WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS BY USING THIS TACTIC, WHICH CAN BRING US RIGHT INTO THE SUMMER PRECEDING FALL ELECTIONS.
BUT STILL NO ONE STEPS UP IN THE MILLIONAIRES CLUB CALLED THE SENATE. READING THE PUNY BY COMPARISON 700 PAGE AMENDMENT IS THE WORK OF PIPSQUEAKS, NOT POWERFUL ADVOCATES FOR FREEDOM.
THE GOP ACT MORE LIKE ABUSED SCHOOLCHILDREN UNDER KEVIN “SAFE SCHOOLS CZAR” JENNINGS CONTROL THAN LIKE REAL MEN FIGHTING FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! DEMAND THAT EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK BE USED BY OUR “GOP REPRESENTATIVES”, ESPECIALLY READING IT OVER AND OVER, TO KILL THIS BILL. DAMN THE TORPEDOES, IF THERE ARE ANY PATRIOTS LEFT IN CONGRESS TO DO SO.
tigerlily on December 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I know how the donks can avoid reading the final version of the healthcare bill.
Withdraw it.
fogw on December 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM
capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM
events of the past 2 days remind me why I gave up on being a DEM and believing Govt could help people
self reliance all the way
I will buy a great plan like I always have and now get taced to death but the govt will not help people who need rxs for less than triple what canadians pay
and pharma is morons if they think they wont pay sooner or later
but making deals like this after running as left of HRC is really freaking neoprogs out, the ones who see reality anyway
I agree govt can help get water and sewer and police and fire and defense
all else is on the individual, the familt, the community, the churches
any lib who thought different learned the truth the past 2 days of HCR talks..
ginaswo on December 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM
How in this great country of mine can a socialist get elected to a Senate seat? Please, someone answer me that. I’ve dedicated my life to fighting communists, among other enemies of this country, and here my own countrymen are voting them into office? Good grief…
Bernie is talking now. Keep it up, buddy. You’re only wasting more of your own time, much like the villain going into a monologue before the good guys thwart his dastardly plans.
Send_Me on December 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Indeed. Liberals love to scream about how terrifying conservatives are. The people they really fear are their own. Nasty business.
Time for some popcorn and a drink. :))
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM
^THIS
Daggett on December 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Chimp Smith on FoxNews is sobbing over Republican “stalling” tactics.
Western_Civ on December 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM
FINALLY!! Create drama!!!
ctmom on December 16, 2009 at 3:10 PM
and Sanders has officially flipped his lid in terms of sanity with some of these comparisons…
General Motors with Toyota/Mercedez?
Canadian/England/France with the US? (that would be the same England/France htat had people die in the heat wave, right?)
Conservative Party in England vs. Conservatives in the US? (he does know they’re two different things, right?)
I’m thinking this “Bernie Sanders movie” needs a snappy title… it’s fun seeing him lose the rest of his marbles.
DaSaintFan on December 16, 2009 at 3:10 PM
According to liberals via Thom Hartmann, Senator Jeff Merkley (Democrat of Oregon) has stated that he will not vote for the health care bill now.
I don’t know how reliable this is… but if so… it’s dead, Jim.
Enoxo on December 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM
I think that’s what galls me the most. We fought for years against this kind of tyranny eeking it’s way into our country, and government, only to see our very own citizens not only vote for it, support it, and welcome it, but to lovingly embrace it too.
It’s disgusting, that they have so little love of country, they are willing to help destroy the greatest nation on earth.
capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Say what?
Knucklehead on December 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Please let Coburn and DeMint stay strong and demand the reading of the entire bill. At this point it is all that is standing in the way of passing this national catastrophe. Aren’t there any other Senators with some spine? McConnell better round up the forces.
red131 on December 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM
DeMint stayed strong and helped defeat Shamnesty. I think Coburn is committed as DeMint. Coburn is a doctor who knows how terrible this would be.
Wethal on December 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Then you know they did something right.
gophergirl on December 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Cannot believe that Backass had the nerve to admit the idjits are incapable of understanding what they’re voting for. Are you kidding me? Maybe they don’t belong voting then.
red131 on December 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Info can be found here.
Enoxo on December 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Hannity just said Sanders is rescinding his ammendment, so debate can go forward. No wonder he’s preaching to the choir.
capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 3:17 PM
I am busting my buttons with pride that Senator Coburn is my senator! Great going Dr. Coburn keep up the good work.
fbcmusicman on December 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM
That’s the best part now Backass is on record saying his fellow democrat senators are idiots.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Bernie’s about to finally close…..please hold your applause!
Rovin on December 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Just called Coburn and told him thank you and to keep fighting. I’ve never been prouder to be a native Okie.
Vera on December 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Wow,somebody get a net for him. Used to watch the Canadian Parliament for laughs. Someone would have decked him by now.
katy the mean old lady on December 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Thanks. What will Barry think of this?
Now their sending a bill to committee to add a provision to stop healthcare taxes until the benefits begin.
Knucklehead on December 16, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Sander’s revenge: now the democrats are voting to table the Hutchison/Thune amendment that would re-commit the whole bill. I think these liberals are getting a little “testy”.
Rovin on December 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Wonder if this amendment will pass. I doubt it. It’s from Hutchison and Thune to stop the collecting of taxes before getting the benefits.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I just saw someone tweet that Bernie had pulled the bill. Anybody else hear that?
Scott P on December 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM
This explains a lot …
I guess I can assume that these are the same “Economic Advisers” that said the “stimulus” would cap unemployment a 8%. We might just be on to something here.
J_Crater on December 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Not the bill, the amendment he wrote. The bill isn’t even finished yet.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Here.
Scott P on December 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM
That’s what I meant, Brat, thanks.
Scott P on December 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM
DeMint was interviewed by Levin a couple of weeks ago, and said that for guys like himself and Coburn their work is incredibly difficult.
He has his own PAC to support conservative candidates. Ed wrote about him recently: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/10/exclusive-interview-jim-demint-endorses-michael-williams/
Basically what he told Levin is that he needs conservatives to support good candidates, get them elected and ‘send in the cavalry.’
Coburn and DeMint can’t do it alone.
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I was kind of waiting for Bernie to have a corinary on the floor. I am disappointed that they were able to pull it off the floor so that they could not keep reading it. I hope that they follow through with the threat of reading the entire bill whenever this phantom bill actually appears.
jistincase on December 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM
No, they’re voting to table (kill) the Hutchison / Thune’s motion to commit, with instructions, that sends it back to committee to stop taxes before benefits begin. Because if this passes, taxes start January 1st, 2010, and benefits aren’t available until 2014.
But Democrats are killing that motion to commit, or going to try to.
Enoxo on December 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM
How many taxpayer dollars went to writing the 767 page bill?
How much taxpayer money was burned up during this whole stupid exercise?
These people are making me so damn mad!
Elizabetty on December 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Heh. The NBC story in the headlines said that Sanders was “animated” while speaking on the Senate floor.
jwolf on December 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Is this somewhat prophetic? The mere fact that Thune, and Hutchison submitted this ammendment, means the bill is a done deal, and it’s only a matter of time, or is this merely a precaution? My brain is just fried from all of this.
capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM
I don’t like your rhetoric. I saw it in San Francisco in the 70′s. You’re creating a climate.
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Probably not much taxpayer money was spent creating the 767 page amendment.. Just get a copy off the nearest lobbyist’s desk!
Zippy_Slug on December 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM
To quote Ronaldus Maximus: “There you go again.” LOL
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM
I think Republicans are pretty much trying everything they can think of to delay / kill it.
Enoxo on December 16, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Yep and I think they will keep going until they’ve exhausted all options.
gophergirl on December 16, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Another make-the-Dems-publicly-state-their-position amendment.
So they would be on record as saying, “We start taxing you in 2010, but won’t give you benefits for four more years.” A nice bit on which the GOP can campaign.
Wethal on December 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM
But Mother Gaia is weeping over the trees that were cut down for the paper on which it was printed.
Wethal on December 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Can’t ya just feel these bloodsucking leeches tugging at your wallet?
Hutchison / Thune’s amendment would have given the liberals a chance to send this back to the drawing table, but these stubborn idiots don’t care. It’s all about pleasing the “O”.
Rovin on December 16, 2009 at 3:39 PM
767 pages isn’t an amendment, it’s a novel.
mojo on December 16, 2009 at 3:40 PM
You know what’s going to happen come 2014 when the go into the account that was started in 2010 to collect taxes to pay the bills, it’s going to be full of IOU’s the money collected starting in 2010 will be used for everything but healthcare.
Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Or a screenplay……weekend at Bernies comes to mind.
Rovin on December 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Without the love triangle and romance.
hoosiermama on December 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Meremortal on December 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Let’s see, you can do something like, oh, GIVE TO COBURN’S CAMPAIGN? HE’S UP FOR REELECTION NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW.
I’d bet my mortgage payment you’d do no such thing, though.
BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM
If they can just kick the can into the holiday recess, then the blue dog dems may well get enough of an earful when they go home that they’ll swing their votes. Isn’t this what Reid-Pelosi-Obama are worried about?
petefrt on December 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Yeah I think you are right, it is one of a series. “A Series of Unfortunate Events” I believe it’s called.
Lily on December 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM
It does make one crazy. They vote their own pay increases, tax us incrementally and torture us with the threat of never-ending, massive legislation that can only result in more taxes.
Oh, and they have their own, special health insurance plan that WE pay for. In addition, they won’t sign up for this disgusting plan that they are proposing.
To repeat myself, the first order of this administration should have been to create jobs. Instead, they have left the private sector, other than their fat friends, to languish. Public money that we have to pay for is wasted in a huge slush fund for BO to pay off his pals.
This is without doubt the most corrupt administration in recent years, at least since those Clinton grifters.
Sorry….. I got off track, but like Der Kreiger, I’m pretty well pissed off today. But that’s like most days lately. I’ve never, ever felt that my government was waging war on the solid people who are the backbone of a successful democracy until this last administration came in.
That’s the rub. And it’s pure Alinsky. This administration is out to destroy the middle class. They hate us. It’s the health care bill. It’s Cap and Trade, now the EPA.
The obvious problem with these idiots is that they will run out of people to fund all of this. Margaret Thatcher understood socialism. There are never enough people to fund their travesties.
/sorry for the rant
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM
He did remind me of Daffy Duck.
fogw on December 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Soooooooo….
What’s been going on around here all day?
Anything new?
(do I really need the /sarc tag?)
Seven Percent Solution on December 16, 2009 at 3:44 PM
If you like what Senator Coburn is doing, give him a call (202-224-5754) and tell him you appreciate him fighting the good fight. Better yet, drop a donation in his till:
https://coburnforsenate.kimbia.com/coburnforsenate
PD Quig on December 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Wasn’t the interstate highway bill like 20 something pages? I have no problem for bills being 20-30 pages from here on out.
jhffmn on December 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM
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