Coburn fires warning shot across Senate Democrats’ bow; Update: DeMint joins Coburn, video statement added; Update: DeMint threatens to do the same to entire bill

posted at 12:55 pm on December 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier today, Senator Bernie Sanders introduced an amendment to the Reid version of ObamaCare that would have established a single-payer health-care system in the US.  No one expected this to go anywhere; in fact, most people shrugged at its introduction as simply a sop, especially since the public option and Medicare buy-in couldn’t get 60 votes, let alone an explicit single-payer system.  However, Tom Coburn made it into news by following through on a warning from last month, as Philip Klein reports:

Sen. Tom Coburn has just demanded that the Senate clerk read the single-payer amendment offered by Sen. Bernie Sanders — and it’s 767 pages.

Typically, Senators offering amendments will ask for unanimous consent to avoid reading the entire meausure, but all it takes is one Senator to object to demand its reading, and Coburn objected to Sanders attempt to dispense with the reading of the amendment.

The boss is delighted:

This is transparency in action.

The Senate’s chief socialist, Bernie Sanders, offered a single-payer health care amendment. It would open Medicare to all regardless of age, income, etc., and would be paid through higher income taxes. The normal procedure on the Senate floor would have been to dispense with the reading of the amendment. But “to alert taxpayers to this latest Washington scheme to take away your health care decisions,” Senator Coburn’s office writes, Sen. Coburn demanded that the full text of the 767 page Sanders amendment be read by the Senate clerk. …

Big Nanny dreams and schemes laid bare.

It took eighteen minutes just to get through the table of contents … for an amendment.  Philip says the pace picked up a bit afterward, and the entire amendment could be read within about 12 hours.  That’s twelve hours of floor time, assuming Coburn keeps withholding unanimous consent.

What does this do?  It makes a hash out of Harry Reid’s plan to move the bill through the Senate by Christmas.  Twelve hours of floor time for just a single amendment means that no other business can be conducted until at least Friday.  Coburn apparently launched this effort in response to an attempt by Reid to shove the bill to a cloture vote without giving everyone enough time to read the bill or peruse the CBO analysis, due this week.

It’s a reminder that even with a supermajority, Reid needs to work with the minority to keep momentum.  He can’t pull a Nancy Pelosi jamdown in the upper chamber, and any further attempts will mean weeks of bill reading as the legislation effectively filibusters itself.

Update: Watch it here.

Update II: Here’s Corburn’s statement before the reading, and Max Baucus’ response::

“I cannot certify that members of the Senate can understand what they’re reading.”

Hence, Coburn’s effort to force the reading. Baucus objected to Coburn’s proposal, and now Coburn’s objecting to unanimous consent to dispense with the reading of the bill. Jim DeMint has joined Coburn:

“Democrats are playing a bait and switch trick — wasting our time debating a bill they’ve rejected while writing a new one in secret. Right now, behind closed doors, Democrats are writing a brand new bill, thousands of pages long, and want to rush it through before Christmas.”

“Americans are tired of watching their leaders in Washington pass bills they haven’t even bothered to read,” said Senator DeMint. “If Senator Reid won’t slow down this debate, we will do it for him. This bill allows the federal government to take over our health care system, and it must be stopped. We will use whatever procedural tools are necessary to defeat this bill.”

Update IV: According to HA reader Hannah B, DeMint just announced that he would force a reading of the entire bill, too.


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In honor of Mr. Coburn, from Muskogee…

“We don’t smoke marijuana in Muskogee;
We don’t take our trips on LSD
We don’t burn our draft cards down on Main Street;
We like livin’ right, and bein’ free.

I’m proud to be an Okie from Muskogee,
A place where even squares can have a ball
We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
And white lightnin’s still the biggest thrill of all

We don’t make a party out of lovin’;
We like holdin’ hands and pitchin’ woo;
We don’t let our hair grow long and shaggy,
Like the hippies out in San Francisco do.

And I’m proud to be an Okie from Muskogee,
A place where even squares can have a ball.
We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
And white lightnin’s still the biggest thrill of all.

Leather boots are still in style for manly footwear;
Beads and Roman sandals won’t be seen.
Football’s still the roughest thing on campus,
And the kids here still respect the college dean.

We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
In Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqouuUqzg-A

Vera on December 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Great point. They can’t even keep their friggin hands off the TARP money that’s supposed to be returned to the taxpayers to bring down the deficit. How’s that SS trust fund account doing? /

Rovin on December 16, 2009 at 3:48 PM

The GOP is doing just about everything short of throwing the kitchen sink at the Democrats. They might not have the votes to stop this thing, but they are doing a good job of making sure people know what the Democrats are up to. And that seems to be having an effect.

Terrye on December 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

LOL, it sounds like Baucus is saying the senators are too stupid to understand it!

PattyJ on December 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM

That is great news. At last some meaningful action by our elected representatives.

antisocial on December 16, 2009 at 3:52 PM

The GOP is doing just about everything short of throwing the kitchen sink at the Democrats. They might not have the votes to stop this thing, but they are doing a good job of making sure people know what the Democrats are up to. And that seems to be having an effect.

Terrye on December 16, 2009 at 3:50 PM

*shrugs*

Either they’ve finally grown a spine and/or a brain, or it’s just all a big show for votes, hedging on the (likely) bet that this abomination will immediately turn people red-hot hostile and they’ll be able to look like the valiant defenders who tried so hard to stop it.

Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Basically what he told Levin is that he needs conservatives to support good candidates, get them elected and ’send in the cavalry.’
Coburn and DeMint can’t do it alone.
Cody1991 on December 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

Well, if “conservatives” weren’t wasting their time trying to get the “least of two evils” candidate John McCain into office and put some focus into the Congressional elections, then this may have happened. As it is, we’re stuck with a bunch of socialists in each branch of government. Be proud, “conservatives”. Be proud.

Send_Me on December 16, 2009 at 3:56 PM

If I heard correctly, Coburn, and DeMint are going to be on Hannity, if anyone is interested. It will be coming up within the next hour, I believe.

capejasmine on December 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Shall I put you down as being a “No” for giving to Sen. Coburn’s campaign?

Really, folks, if senators like Coburn and DeMint are going to risk their reputations to “Save the Republic!,” the least you can do is part with some of your money.

Or are you all in “all hat, no cattle” mood today?

BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Coburn and DeMint–ya’ll deserve a beer for today. Good for you and good for us. Keep doing that stuff.

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM

BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Sustained unemployment tends to have negative effects on one’s finances…but I’ll see about some small amount. Less than $1000 in the bank as of last week and employment is not forthcoming. Not even seasonal.

Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Everyone should be aware of the door this is opening. The next time the GOP is in power expect this tactic to be used regularly by the left.

Good.

If politicians don’t spend every day for the next 20 years repealing old legislation, then better Congress should spend their time doing nothing. The net benefit of that body to the country elapsed at least 40 years ago.

Now if we could only figure out a way to use this tactic on the EPA, the DOE, and on down the line.

JDPerren on December 16, 2009 at 4:12 PM

Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I can certainly understand and empathize with your financial condition. But please understand that if you’re going to ask someone like Tom Coburn to give the middle finger (so to speak) to Reidcare, Tom Coburn bears the blowback. And Tom Coburn needs support to help him overcome that blowback.

There’s too much of a tendency on HA (and, to be fair, DailyKos) to just spit out some position and demand that some politician take that position or else. It’s not very responsible, and thus not very conservative.

BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Update IV: According to HA reader Hannah B, DeMint just announced that he would force a reading of the entire bill, too

Maybe they’ll withdraw the entire bill rather than let the American voters know what a screw job they are proposing?

dhunter on December 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Rumor has it that Bernie Sanders’ amendment is chock full of the stuff Ted Kennedy fervently wished would come to pass. So, yes, read it! Read it for Ted!

ya2daup on December 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM

The amendment has been withdrawn and now Durbin has played “The Troops” card. He and his demrats are whining about a defense bill that can’t get passed. They seem to be blaming it on the reps. I suspect this is a procedural trick to allow the defense bill to pave the way to stop the reading of the amendment.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM

There’s too much of a tendency on HA (and, to be fair, DailyKos) to just spit out some position and demand that some politician take that position or else. It’s not very responsible, and thus not very conservative.

BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

A fair point. But you seem to suggest the ‘blowback’ will be negative.

Do you think there are a majority of individuals in his district – or even a significant minority – who will be sorry to see their representative doing something to prevent the Federal Government from violating their rights in this heinous way?

I think it’s likely to be quite the opposite. If more politicians made an unequivocal stand in favor of freedom, those individuals would be re-elected in most districts from now until retirement. Progressives are still a small minority among voters and most Americans still admire integrity.

JDPerren on December 16, 2009 at 4:24 PM

The amendment has been withdrawn and now Durbin has played “The Troops” card. He and his demrats are whining about a defense bill that can’t get passed. They seem to be blaming it on the reps. I suspect this is a procedural trick to allow the defense bill to pave the way to stop the reading of the amendment.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 4:20 PM
//

They can just stop the reading to vote on the defense bill. Then resume the reading after the vote.

Durbin is just farting out of his mouth again.

uknowmorethanme on December 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Coburn and DeMint were just on Hannity. They say that the Dems broke the rules of the Senate by halting the reading of the Amendment. Per the Senate’s own rules, once the reading of the Amendment began, there is to be no further interruption. Yet for the first time ever, setting a new precident, Sanders withdrew the Amendment and Reid ordered the reading of the Amendment to be halted.

Fascism. Simply a bunch of fascist thugs are running the Unites States Senate.

DrW on December 16, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Durbin is just farting out of his mouth again.

uknowmorethanme on December 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM

I hate politicians.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 4:39 PM

drudge is headlining that Pelosi indicates that no healthcare deal will occur this year.

She also said she indicated that it’d be far easier to do next year…

ok, she didn’t say that last part–but BWAAAAAHAAAA

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Maybe they’ll withdraw the entire bill rather than let the American voters know what a screw job they are proposing?

dhunter on December 16, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Withdrawing the Amendment should not have caused the reading of the Amendment to be halted. This has never occured before and is in violation of the Senates Rules of Parlimentary Procedure.

Coburn was under the impression that the Senate Parlimentarian works for the entire Senate, but apparently this person takes order from Dingy Harry.

Need we any further evidence that the Dems do not want the American people to hear the details of thier scurrulous plans?

DrW on December 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM

I can only see this move by DeMint and Coburn to increase support for Obamacare….

//s//

:)

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Finally! Gloves off – no longer playing nice with a group of lying hypocrites. They have been entirely shut out of the process and they must use whatever tools are available to stop this national nightmare. Coburn the new national hero!

marnes on December 16, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Coburn was on Hannity a while ago and said Reid intends to vote on this bill on Christmas Eve. Coburn also said it was against Senate rules to withdraw the amendment. DeMint was also on and said they have a few more tricks to use but they couldn’t share what they were.Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

sandee on December 16, 2009 at 4:46 PM

I can only see this move by DeMint and Coburn to increase support for Obamacare….

In your socialist wet dream!
:}

chickasaw42 on December 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Where, oh where are the trolls?

AnninCA? Drywall? simplesimon?

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
1st shift at McDonalds doesn’t end until 3:00.

BacaDog on December 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA..ahhh, that was funny.

royzer on December 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Withdrawing the Amendment should not have caused the reading of the Amendment to be halted. This has never occured before and is in violation of the Senates Rules of Parlimentary Procedure.

–Has there ever been a situation where an amendment was withdrawn after the reading started? If there hasn’t, it’s tough to say that it’s in violation of the rules.

-And I don’t think there is any requirement that the Senate be in session when the bill is being read on the floor. I think the requirement is that the bill has to be read straight through.

Hope Coburn and all the other Senators enjoy unwrapping their presents and eating turkey together on Christmas.

Jimbo3 on December 16, 2009 at 4:55 PM

I would gladly sit through someone reading 767 pages that said “coburn is a giant a*shole” over and over.

The party of no continues to pi*s its pants.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

We have a Drywall sighting, people! Happy hunting.

BradSchwartze on December 16, 2009 at 4:57 PM

I believe that Coburn would gladly sit through someone reading 767 pages that said “coburn is a giant a*shole” over and over, if it means it grinds this monstrosity to a halt.

The only person I saw pi*s his pants today was Bernie Sanders.

bilups on December 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Using procedure to simply delay voting on a bill is beyond retarded.

If the GOP had any fu*king brains it would use this time of obnoxious delay to actually put forth some clear alternative ideas on healthcare reform. But it won’t, because the goal is to obstruct, not construct.

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves wishing they could take a pi*s on the people befouling the legislative process.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 5:01 PM

The party of no continues to pi*s its pants.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

The little balls of $hit that roll out of your mouth are leaving residual chunks of crap between your teeth.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Dave, you mean the clear alternatives that the conservatives have been presenting for the past 10 months?

No one is listening. All we can do to stop this train is use all the parliamentary procedures we have access to.

Oh, and the founding fathers are rolling alright…especially after Waxman’s claim that we can’t expect our senators to actually read and understand what they’re voting on.

Vera on December 16, 2009 at 5:04 PM

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves wishing they could take a pi*s on the people befouling the legislative process.
Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Our founding fathers installed this form of representation so harm to the citizens would be minimized. What did your Founding Fathers in Canada install to do that, Dave?

kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM

If the GOP Democrats in the Senate had any fu*king brains it would use this time of obnoxious delay to actually put forth some clear alternative ideas on healthcare reform.

–Interpretation of Senator Baucus remarks to Senator Coburn.

chickasaw42 on December 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Yes, you are correct Dave Rywall. At this time the goal is to obstruct. And obstruct they shall. They have and continue to put forth alternatives, including entire alternate health care bills, that are discarded out of hand by the majority.

So they shall obstruct, and continue to obstruct. This congress is broken. No more construction.

bilups on December 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM

They can’t certify that anyone will even understand what they are voting on as they vote to seize all the health care choices in America! As they vote for death panels! As they vote to ration our medical care,, as they vote to enslave America they really can’t be sure of what they are doing,,, but by God, they have got to get it done by Christmas!!!
Arrest every freaking Democrat in congress! Put them in jail! Strip them of their retirement plans and never let them hold any job ever again accept washing public restrooms! This is criminal!
This same congress would not hesitate for one second to strip some CEO of their legal contractual income and bonus’s just to make a political point,, than the same should be done to every stinking Democrat! Call it whatever you want ! This is criminal! It is unconstitutional!!

JellyToast on December 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

After that despicable display of demagoguery from Sen Kirk, I expect the demrats will soon exhume The Swimmers body and prop it up in his old seat.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I would gladly sit through someone reading 767 pages that said “coburn is a giant a*shole” over and over.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

The name of almost anyone in Congress could be substituted.

Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM

If they can’t freaking understand the bill they are voting on,, how can they defend it as something we need????
If they have no idea what is written in the actual bill,, how do they know they are even voting on a health bill???

Some intern or staff member needs to get a clue and slip some kind of wording into this thing that would basically dissolve congress! You know what?? They’d probably vote on it and Obama would sign it and no one would ever know! Then one day Obama would just step out on his balcony and say “Thank you, Since congress has voted to disband itself and appoint me dictator for life, I am now declaring permanent Martial Law!”
Harry and Nancy would go “When did we do that??” Obama could reply, “It’s right here on page 1245, paragraph 4b, of the Health Bill. Didn’t you read it?”

JellyToast on December 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

about damn time

unseen on December 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Using procedure to simply delay voting on a bill is beyond retarded.

Actually, it’s pretty smart.

If the GOP had any fu*king brains it would use this time of obnoxious delay to actually put forth some clear alternative ideas on healthcare reform. But it won’t, because the goal is to obstruct, not construct.

They’ve already done proposed some alternate ideas. And you know it. But you won’t acknowledge it because your goal is . . . what?

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves wishing they could take a pi*s on the people befouling the legislative process.

The founding fathers are the ones that deliberately put gridlock into the system.

Bobbertsan on December 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I just emailed Senator Coburn to thank him for requiring the reading of the socialist amendment. I also encouraged him to continue to use all tools available to stop this nightmare.

farright on December 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

How much do I love Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint? Two men of integrity doing what they should ALL be doing.

And, is it just me, or does Max Baucus sound drunk?

califcon on December 16, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Mommy call Duhwhywall to supper?

chickasaw42 on December 16, 2009 at 5:59 PM

What a bizarre and disturbing exchange. Baucus seems weirdly amused over a simple question and request in the name of public interest. We’ve entered the Twilight Zone.

rrpjr on December 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves wishing they could take a pi*s on the people befouling the legislative process.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 5:01 PM

“Your comments made our day, from the grave” –The Founding Fathers

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM

This is how you get compact, readable, sensible bills.

I hope both sides do this from now on… and every procedural call for a unanimous consent request should get a ‘no’ to it. Each and every single one. Both chambers.

The Republicans don’t have to offer ‘their bill’ as they are in the minority. Indeed if there were a smaller Third Party that had a couple of Senate and a handful of House seats, this could be done constantly and there would be no worry of having to ‘offer an alternative’. Get bills under 20 pages and you can have much better government.

I will know these people are serious when this is done with the Federal Budget.

You want sunlight?

Do THAT and it will keep Congress tied up for months just reading the thing. That is because the government is too damned big. If these bozos have to let staffers figure out how to craft bills, then let me vote for the staffers and get these dufuses out of the way as they are NOT doing their jobs. I vote for my local bozo and I damned well know he couldn’t write a bill if you locked him in a room with a word processor and a template. If these wonderfools think they are so damned smart, then have their bills read out… that would take a party that would say NO to Big Government.

Can I vote for some folks like that? Please?

ajacksonian on December 16, 2009 at 6:14 PM

I would gladly sit through someone reading 767 pages that said “coburn is a giant a*shole” over and over.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Well you are an expert. Oh and BUTT OUT you friggin leech

CWforFreedom on December 16, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Dave and what about the party of “We will take anything no matter the cost” Farg of you ignorant Canadian leech.

CWforFreedom on December 16, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Did anyone else catch Glenn Beck where Ben Nelson of NE was threatened with closing the SAC base if he doesn’t get on board with health care? I was interupted with a phone call, so didn’t hear all of it.

Mirimichi on December 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM

AWESOME! SHUT THE ENTIRE SENATE DOWN. KILL THIS MARXIST FARCE!

elduende on December 16, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Yes, Senator Nelson’s office and the oval office are denying anything of the sort occurred, but Golfarb (the reporter from Weekly Standard) stands by his source and stated he has three sources all reporting essentially the same – a phone call came into Sen. Nelson’s office stating that Offut AFB (SAC) located just outside Omaha, NE will be put on the BARC list if he doesn’t get on board with this bill…. Sure wish Nelson would tell them to go to He#@. He was interviewed here in Omaha this morning and said, No One can buy his vote, but I’m not yet convinced he won’t cave ….. Will anyone in the democratic party stand up and get a set of cojones and tell them to go pound sand- they would become a national hero instantly!!!!!

huskerdiva on December 16, 2009 at 6:52 PM

I was interupted with a phone call, so didn’t hear all of it.

Mirimichi on December 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Basically the guest didn’t consider it a credible threat because base closures don’t start being considered until 2013. Glen made the excellant point that it didn’t matter if it was credible, but rather that the despicable Obama administration even made the threat.

csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 6:53 PM

I adore that move.

Pack it up, pack it up, buddy gonna shut you down.

Mojave Mark on December 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM

I would gladly sit through someone reading 767 pages that said “coburn is a giant a*shole” over and over.

Dave Rywall on December 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Yeah, your moose told us about your love for giant a*sholes, drywall.

HornetSting on December 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM

HornetSting on December 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM

lol! Hola Hornet! whats cookin kiddo :-)

elduende on December 16, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Listening to the amendment being read aloud today was enlightening. Something about hearing it said makes it all the more real…the level of government control/instrusion was shocking to me. I knew it, but hearing it read was an entirely different experience. READ THE ENTIRE THING.

Diane on December 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM

HornetSting on December 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM
lol! Hola Hornet! whats cookin kiddo :-)

elduende on December 16, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Just watching the festivities with a big bowl of popcorn~
Go Dims~HAHA.

HornetSting on December 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM

HornetSting on December 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM

me too!

elduende on December 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Read the Bill?

WITCHES! BURN THE… MAN WITCHES!!!!!

Yakko77 on December 16, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Thank God for Obama…the whole Country (most of it anyway) is laughing at the Democrats…could not have happened without the current POTUS!

winston on December 16, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Mirimichi on December 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM

It was great–Beck called it TREASON!

lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. – AUH20

diogenes on December 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM

My senators, Coburn and Inhofe, always make me proud to be an Oklahoman. They are always out there taking the fight to the dems, and I appreciate all that they do. Thanks, guys! I just wish we had many more like them. I just wrote them both yesterday and told them to at least slow this bill down and downright stop it if possible.

silvernana on December 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM

What does this do? It makes a hash out of Harry Reid’s plan to move the bill through the Senate by Christmas.

You go to war with the Senate Majority Leader that you have, not the Senate Majority Leader you wish you had. /s

*hey silvernana!*

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM

My senators, Coburn and Inhofe, always make me proud to be an Oklahoman. They are always out there taking the fight to the dems, and I appreciate all that they do. Thanks, guys! I just wish we had many more like them. I just wrote them both yesterday and told them to at least slow this bill down and downright stop it if possible.

silvernana on December 16, 2009 at 7:46 PM

I emailed Dr. Coburn today and gave him a big ol’ dose of “HELL YEAH”

Keep doin’ that Oklahoma!

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 8:00 PM

If they want to really slow down the process, force Maxine Waters to read the bill…have her come over from the house.
Second best is have Boxer read the bill, she is only about 6 points higher on the intellect scale then Waters…

right2bright on December 16, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Thank you Sen. Coburn and DeMint!!

TN Mom on December 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM

If Coburn and DeMint are drnking men I’d buy each of them a case of their favorite brews!

MCGIRV on December 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM

We should have been doing this all along. I know Coburn cut his deal with Reid, and I understand why, but Reid has changed the rules of the game. The full bill needs a forced reading.

By the way — and nobody ever mentions this – we have 6 retiring Senators. I’m acquainted with one, unfortnately. But where are the other guys? Why are they not causing as many problems as possible? We don’t hear a peep from them, when really, with nothing to lose, the could be doing some of the heaving lifting.

Anyone with any insights on why our “lame duck” (if you will) Senators are not causing holy hell?

voxpopuli on December 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM

As an Okie from his congressional district (yes, I know he is my senator), I can assure you he is in no danger of ever losing an election. For those who know OCB, you know I brag on him and rub Coburn and Inhofe in your facdes every chance I get. However, in the last election, the national unions and national Dems spent more money than that from Oklahoma. That’s OK; If they wnat to waste their money that way, it is better for the other conservatives. Yes, I give to Dr. Coburn. Yes it would be nice to give to his campaign, but not because he needs it to get re-elected. Send him money to show support for his kind of conservatism. If he gets more money than dirty Harry, that will send the proper message.

Old Country Boy on December 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM

SENATOR COBURN!
I am proud to say I was born in Lawton. Keep up the good work. Don’t let the bA$$tards win.
 
FREEDOM!

Blacksmith8 on December 16, 2009 at 10:35 PM

They can just stop the reading to vote on the defense bill. Then resume the reading after the vote.

Durbin is just farting out of his mouth again.

uknowmorethanme on December 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Probably, however I have to question why any RIGHT thinking Senator would vote on any bill without having it read out loud for the congressional record.
 
If ObowmaoCare is over 2,000 pages, let’s see how many bills get read. Every bill read adds to the 30 hour stall.

Blacksmith8 on December 16, 2009 at 10:40 PM

chickasaw42 on December 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM

//s//

:)

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM

You, um, missed a line ;-)

Blacksmith8 on December 16, 2009 at 10:43 PM

You go to war with the Senate Majority Leader that you have, not the Senate Majority Leader you wish you had. /s

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM

QOTD

Blacksmith8 on December 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM

*hey silvernana!*

ted c on December 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM

*hey back atcha ted c*

silvernana on December 17, 2009 at 12:33 AM

Is it just me, but does it look like Max Baucus is ready for a padded room?

margategop517 on December 17, 2009 at 1:04 AM

They oughta make Obama read his own freakin’ bill.

“Ummm…..ObamaCare……errr……part…..uhhhh……won…..errr….I mean one……ahhhh…..section……i… err …me…..”

ConservativeTony on December 17, 2009 at 1:08 AM

Brat4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I agree. Mentioned this exact point to a family member the other day. Brought to mind the Social Security piggy bank that was hammered open many moons ago.

Left Coast Right Mind on December 17, 2009 at 6:03 AM

I am trying to wrap my mind around this concept. The Members of Congress are stupid and would not understand the bill after they read it.Sometime back a Congressional Democrat said the people were to stupid to understand if they read the bill. Now if the People and the Congress Members are too stupid to understand this bill it leads me to wonder: “WHO IN H–L WAS SMART ENOUGH TO WRITE THE BILL”?

old war horse on December 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

SENATOR COBURN!
I am proud to say I was born in Lawton. Keep up the good work. Don’t let the bA$$tards win.

FREEDOM!

Blacksmith8 on December 16, 2009 at 10:35 PM

FT Sill?

LSUMama on December 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I am trying to wrap my mind around this concept. The Members of Congress are stupid and would not understand the bill after they read it.Sometime back a Congressional Democrat said the people were to stupid to understand if they read the bill. Now if the People and the Congress Members are too stupid to understand this bill it leads me to wonder: “WHO IN H–L WAS SMART ENOUGH TO WRITE THE BILL”?

old war horse on December 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Perhaps the SEIU along with the commie czars and their attorneys? And I’m sure ACORN could be involved!

silvernana on December 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM

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