A missile defense system might be nice now …
posted at 9:30 am on December 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Iran test-fired a new missile platform earlier today, the Sajjil-2, a solid-fuel missile capable of reaching throughout the Middle East and into Europe. It’s exactly the kind of weapon against which the American missile shield would have defended Europe, had we continued to install our systems in Poland and the Czech Republic, as well as the eventual longer-range missiles these tests will produce. The Iranians used the test to demonstrate its intention to retaliate for any attempt to stop its nuclear-weapons program through military means:
Iran on Wednesday test-fired an upgraded version of its most advanced missile, which is capable of hitting Israel and parts of Europe, in a new show of strength aimed at preventing any military strike against it amid the nuclear standoff with the West. …
State television broke the news in a one-sentence report accompanied by a brief clip of the test, showing the missile rising from the launch pad in a cloud of smoke.
Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi vowed that the Sajjil-2 would be a “strong deterrent” against any possible foreign attack. He said the new version can be fired more quickly and flies faster than previous ones making it harder to shoot down, though he did not give further details.
“Given its high speed,” he said, speaking on state TV, “it is impossible to destroy the missile with anti-missile systems because of its radar-evading ability.”
It may be impossible to shoot down, but not because of “radar-evading ability.” It’s impossible because Iran’s Russian allies successfully pushed Barack Obama out of deploying the missile defense system where it would work against the Sajjil-2. Iran doesn’t have to worry about having these shot down if they wish to threaten Europe and NATO and extort their silence while Iran completes its nuclear bomb.
The move to the exclusive use of solid fuel (the Shahab-3 used both solid and liquid fuel) is worrisome. With the Shahab-3, we could see the fueling and the staging of the missile before its launch. That would give us time to attack the launch site if we thought it necessary. The Sajjil-2 can be fueled far in advance and then hidden in silos, giving us only a few minutes warning on any launch. If the Iranians put a nuclear warhead on the Sajjil-2, defending against it will be very difficult, even if we do manage to install defensive systems where it counts.
Jammie Wearing Fool notes that Barack Obama’s self-assigned “good, solid B-plus” was predicated in part on Obama’s assertion that he had “made progress toward halting development of nuclear weapons in Iran and North Korea.” However, as Fox News analyst Michael Tobin reports, this test shows that Iran is accelerating its efforts:
This test also shows Iran ’s aggressiveness with the missile program. “The advance rate is phenomenal,” says Rubin, noting that Iran has now conducted three missile tests in 13 months. It shows just how high a priority missile technology is for the Shiite regime. Rubin says, “They need to keep testing to prove their past successes were not spurious.”
The Iranians have succeeded in stalling the world while it pushes ever faster to both a nuclear weapon and a launch vehicle to carry it. Any idea that we have somehow begun “halting” this push is either a lie or terminal naïveté.
Update: McKittrick at Closing Velocity noted yesterday that the US had shifted the focus of its missile-defense testing from North Korea to Iran, despite an earlier contention that the Iranian threat had “slowed.” He called shenanigans yesterday, and it looks like he was right to do so.
Update II: McKittrick has a new post assessing this latest test. He concludes:
Impossible to destroy? No, not really.
But intercepting the Sajjil-2 is certainly more challenging, especially with a stripped-down European missile defense architecture that focuses exclusively on short- and medium-range missiles. Yesterday’s announcement that the US is planning an unprecedented missile defense test against an Iranian ICBM could not be more timely. It will be the first time we’ve wargamed our longest-range GBI interceptor against an Iranian threat rather than our tradtional North Korean scenarios.
And again, one of the two reasons President Obama discarded long-range GBI interceptors in Europe was because of an intelligence assessment claiming the Iranians would not produce ICBMs any time soon. How’s that working out for you?
He also has video of the launch.
Update III: The Cold War strikes again! Well, at least in my first paragraph. That should have read “Czech Republic,” not “Czechoslovakia.” Thanks to Steve Eggleston for the reminder.









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JammieWearingFool on December 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM
I’m glad we have a leader like Obama that doesn’t want to hurt the Iranian’s feelings.
justinx0r on December 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Tiny country.
the_nile on December 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM
There is just sand in Iran, right?
GW_SS-Delta on December 16, 2009 at 9:36 AM
I feel a strongly worded letter coming on.
vcferlita on December 16, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Even “reset” Hillary flunks Obama.
maverick muse on December 16, 2009 at 9:36 AM
We are just wading through these next few years, hoping and praying that nothing will happen…without leadership that is all we have, a hope and a prayer…change never came.
right2bright on December 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
We’re going to see an Iran with nuclear warheads during Obama’s administration.
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gwelf on December 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Those missiles are for civilian use only.
Bishop on December 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Is it 3:00 a.m. yet?
yoda on December 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Israel is our only hope.
gwelf on December 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM
I have concerns about some of the language that is being used in this post because I saw — I saw this myself in the late ’70s in San Francisco, this kind of {sniffle} of rhetoric was very frightening and it gave — it created a climate in which we — violence took place.
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Nonsense, Iran is YEARS away from developing a usable nuclear weapon………right? RIGHT?
God help us all with these buffoons in charge.
Smart Power in action!!!
NC Cop on December 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
So would a real President.
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM
this is very, very bad.
to put it into perspective the level of technological sophistication required to perfect solid fuel missiles is enormous, so much so that the Soviets never got it right and by the end of the cold war had to revert their sub based launchers back to liquid fuel.
elduende on December 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM
One finger. One button. One application of “Bush Doctrine”.
CC
CapedConservative on December 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM
The “strongly worded letter” already went out today, to North Korea. Sent to the wrong country at the wrong time by the wrong person, obviously.
This crap is going to keep on keeping on until one morning the world is going to wake up and find much of Iran is a black smoking hole in the ground thanks to Israel.
At that point, Obama will be more irrelevant than ever.
bradley11 on December 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Everyone’s looking at this all wrong. You have to see things from Obama’s perspective. The sooner the destruction of America, the sooner he can become king-of-the-world!
Puddleglum on December 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Good thing Sean Penn, and others, have gone over there on anti-Bush diplomatic missions in the past. God knows what this would have become without that intervention.
somewhatconcerned on December 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM
The administration’s slogan is Missives Not Missiles.
N.B. It should read Czech Republic at the top.
Drained Brain on December 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM
State Department – Iran has shown time and time again its restraint and peaceful nature. The missiles are for space exploration, the nuclear fuel is for civilian use and those Kryton triggers are for Iran’s new “Peaceful Rest” non-lethal crowd control. Move along. Nothing to see here.
LincolntheHun on December 16, 2009 at 9:43 AM
It is somewhere, mostly in the Oval Office.
steveegg on December 16, 2009 at 9:43 AM
It’s all good fun to snark at Obama, but this is pretty serious in my opinion. Iran could start off a nuclear exchange with a complete wuss sitting in the WH. If Iran gets a nuke, a flowery speech to the UN by Obama isn’t going to cut it. I don’t see Iran hesitating to use it’s status as a nuclear power to dominate the entire middle east and most of europe. I wouldn’t put it past them to launch a missle in response to almost any pushback from the infidels.
Mord on December 16, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Everything these thugs say mean something. It always means something else.
Hillary’s confession must mean we are in deep do do or we are getting ready to completely give away the store.
nondhimmie on December 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM
The one pledge he will keep….
Smart power.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Unless that puppy goes close to the speed of light, it’s not evading radar on speed alone.
steveegg on December 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Obama does have nice pants, though. Admit it.
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Yes, ironically, to save Israel, Chicago Jesus will have to employ the Bush Doctrine.
WordsMatter on December 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM
How long before Israel unleashes Hell on Iran?
BPD on December 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM
And thank goodness we dodged that Palin bullet.
LibTired on December 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Those aren’t missiles! They’re, uh…uh…FIREWORKS! YEAH, THAT’S THE TICKET! Christmas fireworks to show how the Iranian regime respects our Christian values!
And who said anything about “nuclear” bombs? The Iranians are merely making NERF-lear bombs, so we can have a world-wide dodgeball fight! It’ll be great and Obama will buy the wold a Coke!
robblefarian on December 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM
I fail to see how huge annual deficits and dictators having sophisticated weapons are good things for my kids? Can some liberal troll please fill in the blanks for this apparently under-educated conservative yokel?
WashJeff on December 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Obama: “We are on the precipice of a breakthrough with Iran.”
csdeven on December 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I beginning to think I need to liquidate my stocks and mutual funds and buy oil futures.
WashJeff on December 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Rand Paul Tea Party money bomb today.
RandPaulGraphs. He’s raised about 50 thousand so far. That’s pretty good.
Spathi on December 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM
I guess that fist isn’t unclenching anytime soon.
revolutionismyname on December 16, 2009 at 9:54 AM
The Congress is too busy focusing on healthcare and Christmas break to worry about that “tiny country”.
yoda on December 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM
cue the gems from our crazies:
“There’s nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today. I mean, we could defend this country with a few good submarines.” – Ron Paul
though there are some better ones directly related to Iran
jp on December 16, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Iran understands liberals better than we do. While Iran’s leaders might still have been fidgeting and fussing towards nuclear armament under Bush, they know their asses would have been tromped for something like this.
But what happens when you get a bunch of panty-waists in the White House?
A $hit-eating grin from Dinnerjacket as he pushes the button.
Don’t think they won’t pull this crap all the live long day until Israel decides to start kicking teeth in. We won’t.
somewhatconcerned on December 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Yes it is. I’d say it was a giant middle finger directed towards the whole rest of the world. And the world will answer…if you do that one more time we’re going to SANCTION your a@@.
scalleywag on December 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Experts agree. Something’s up with Iran. Hit the snooze button.
Fletch54 on December 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM
The only barbarians understand is strength and the willingness to use it. That is why they are scared of “cowboy” Presidents. They’re laughing at the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave…”Poindexter”.
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Ed, Quit scaring people. Is that all you conservatives do? LOL
LFRGary on December 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM
The only thing barbarians…
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I feel a really bold speech coming on… in full reverb.
TXUS on December 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM
The Obama Doctrine- “Sorry, my (inherited) bad.
Trusser13 on December 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Let’s send Senator Chuck Schumer over to talk to them. He’s really good at telling off flight attendants.
I know, OT but what a revealing moment for another self-important little bully.
Drained Brain on December 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Damn you BOOOOOSH!
angryed on December 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I think we are witnessing the early stages of a profound shift in the world balance of power. In three years, by time Obama is out of office (assuming there aren’t enough idiots to reelect him), the shift will already be well under way. Iran likely will have nuclear warheads to load onto their missiles, the Gulf states and Egypt will all be developing their own nuclear technologies, and Venezuela and Brazil will be in on the game too. All of this will be complicated even more by the UN’s successful efforts to bankrupt the developed nations to ameliorate the effects of ‘global warming’, and a Democratic congress seemingly h*llbent on driving America past the point of no return on public debt. It may be possible to turn things around if the Demos lose at least one of their majorities next year, if Obama is (bad) history after 2012.
I’ve been feeling incredibly pessimistic about the future in the last few weeks, and I really wish someone could persuade me there is good reason not to be.
ProfessorMiao on December 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM
What are you all on about, wingnutz?
This missile test is obviously for peaceful purposes. They obviously intend to use the missiles for energy purposes. Who are we to stop them?
BUSH SUCKS.
/O-bot off
Good Lt on December 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Get the wood burning stove now, get a shed and start storing your gasoline, buy canned goods, guns, and ammo if you haven’t already…When Israel hits Iran, they will retaliate by hitting the Gulf…and I think it will happen right after the New Year. Israel can’t wait much longer…
lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM
That also ties into the threat to close Offutt. STRATCOM’s mission is everything Teh Won abhors (America’s nuclear arsenal, space operations, missile defense).
steveegg on December 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Dittos.
petefrt on December 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Even if the intelligence were right and Iran was 5 years away, why wait to build the missile shield until then? Obama wants Israel annihilated. Plain and simple.
angryed on December 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM
At some point, you must value the lives of YOUR citizens over the lives of foreign citizens and drop some freaking bombs. America has went above and beyond in the past to protect civilian casualties, but when the enemy hides behind civilians, you eventually have to make the hard decision. Of course, hard decisions are not Obama’s strength – well at least when that hard decision is to protect Americans.
j_galt on December 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Of course it will. But I think it will be much, much worse than that. Iran is already giving comfort to loons in this hemisphere (Chavez, Lulu), and I have no doubt the result will be nuclear proliferation in Latin America.
ProfessorMiao on December 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Its all okay tho, the Iranian nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, and Islam is a religion of peace.
So it’s all good!
Neo on December 16, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Your pessimism is warranted but for another reason.
the balance of power won’t shift without war.
No matter how it plays out the current Iranian regime won’t long survive this shift (with or without nukes). The entire middle east will burst into flames as soon as the nuclear threshold is crossed or shortly afterwards.
elduende on December 16, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I think Barry needs another Nobel, pronto.
Neville Chamberlain would be so proud.
hillbillyjim on December 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Israel will not play around. Mr. Netanyahu will protect his nation.
kingsjester on December 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Um, I guess that dinner jacket guy is serious about propelling himself to be the Muslim messiah or something. But who cares, isn’t there a Wagyu beef party tonight? Maybe I can sneak in.
ORconservative on December 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Crap like this makes me think the Mayans were on to something.
BPD on December 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Does anybody know if Pakistan’s and India’s missiles can deep into Iran?
ProfessorMiao on December 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM
I guess those reports from the last few years about Iran not being able to build long range missles that can actually hit Israel were pretty much garbage.
Johnnyreb on December 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Correct.
So let’s turn it into the prettiest glass pond evah!
Badger40 on December 16, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Two things:
1. Nothing in politics ever happens by accident.
2. Cloward Piven
We need to stop attributing to stupidity/buffoonery that which can better be attributed to knowing and deliberate desire for the outcome and all it’s consequences.
Just like Iran buying time, failing to correctly criticize Obama on this gives him a pass and allows this to continue. He is not dumb and he is not bumbling. We are by failing to connect the dots and make a better case.
America1st on December 16, 2009 at 10:18 AM
ProfessorMiao on December 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM
I had forgot about Ahmedinejad(sp?) and Chaves’ “special friendship”. Thanks I think, haha.
Mord on December 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM
You’re being unfair. You have to give OB+ama’s “smart power” a chance to really work! We wouldn’t want to offend the Iranians by taking concrete steps to preempt their obviously dangerous ambitions. That wouldn’t be giving diplomacy a chance. I think if we really, really, engage them with lots of nice GQ glamor shoots of Dinner Jacket and Odumb+o, they could come around in 10 or 20 years. Maybe a bit longer, but hey, smart power works!
mr.blacksheep on December 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM
But that’s just too hard to believe. I mean, it couldn’t be that many of our elected leaders want to create such a large burden … Or that they want Americans to learn a lesson … Nah. Couldn’t be. Not possible. Nope. /sarc
Yep. Cloward-Piven.
j_galt on December 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM
America1st on December 16, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Absolutely correct.
ORconservative on December 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Sure Pakistan shares a border with them and the Indian Agni…well take a look
elduende on December 16, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the hardest for people to believe.
j_galt on December 16, 2009 at 10:24 AM
I can’t take credit for the reminder – Drained Brain had it up on in the comments.
steveegg on December 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Lay the foundation for WWIII you get a peace prize and a solid B+! I should go back to work in Manhattan, at least then I’d be vaporized by the nuke, and not die of radiation sickness later. Way to go Barry!
Daveyardbird on December 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM
That entire Obama administration are the most inept, stupid gaggle of dolts that have inhabited the planet in the last 200 years.
rplat on December 16, 2009 at 10:34 AM
j_galt on December 16, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Agreed, I have a very hard time believing it myself. Why would you run for power and influence only to destroy the system that elevated you? It seems waaay to b-movie plot to me.
On the other hand, the people running the show have to have just a little bit of fore-sight, don’t they?
Maybe Beck is correct when he says that both parties are basically working in collusion to siphon off as much wealth for themselves and their friends before it all collapses. Otherwise you would think think that the R’s would be sounding some alarm bells whenever they get in front of a camera.
Mord on December 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Recap Time:
1) Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map.
2) Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
3) Iran is in the process of acquiring nuke triggers.
4) Iran has tested a missile capable of carrying a
nuclear reaching Israel.
5) Iran has ignored international sanctions.
6) The world asks that Israel show restraint.
sdd on December 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM
That’s a Peace Prize!
Lily on December 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM
And that is where they should go first… Occam’s Razor
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CapedConservative on December 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I have long wondered how the Iranians were able to build complex and sophisticated weapons systems. But I guess they have managed to beg, borrow, or steal enough foreign technology to use as the basis of an indigenous industry, even building jet engines and rocket motors.
Aside from the nuclear-bomb question, it is clear that there will come a time when Iran will have a modern military so large that could completely overwhelm the enormously competent but tiny Israeli Defense Forces. So long as Iran is committed to the destruction of Israel, only America will stand between the mullahs and that end.
If Iran is able to begin producing atomic bombs—and it looks like they are only months away from the first test—the only deterrent will be the threat of massive retaliation from the United States, and how credible is that with Obambi in charge?
Given this prospect, it is hard to imagine any other option for Israel but a pre-emptive strike. And would such a strike using only conventional weapons be effective enough? Only if the US takes a major role, destroying Iran’s defense infrastructure. How likely is that?
Hard questions, no good answers.
MrLynn on December 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM
But it was SDI that provoked Iranian pursuit of nukes, wasn’t it?
Just as the Afghanistan/Iraq wars are the causes of Islamic terrorism.
Anti-logic at its finest.
Track-A-'Crat on December 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I wonder how far “Star Wars” technology would have come by now.
Why does it seem that it’s always the useful things that get cut from the military’s budget instead of any one of their obscenely expensive GI Joe boy-toys that won’t see any sort of action for years? Anyone with a brain should be able to see the growing need for ICBM interception, that’s a Pandora’s Box that’s never going to be shut unless someone invents nuke-eating nanobots.
Dark-Star on December 16, 2009 at 10:48 AM
They’re crooked, unreliable, sneaky, treacherous, perfidious, two-faced and totally focused on the destruction of both Israel and America—but let’s forget about the White House for a moment and concentrate on the Iranian nuclear threat.
MaiDee on December 16, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Some currently non-nuclear country will in the next 5 or so years launch a nuke carrying missile. This most likely will be a test missile, but, there is a slim possibility that it will not be. The materials and technology curve suggest that Iran will be the first one to do it. If it is Iran, it most likely will not be a test missile.
Johnnyreb on December 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM
I knew people that worked on SDI from day one 25+ years ago. They told me then what a joke it was and how everyone just went along because it meant high paying jobs. That’s what they said, and they were in the know.
If the tech had ever worked well, you would have see it everywhere for years. The govt would be showing it off constantly like jets at an air show. There would be a game show where people shot stuff out of the sky with missiles and laser beams.
Moesart on December 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM
“Peace in our time”…..
Johan Klaus on December 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM
It is somehow telling that the first reaction to the launch comes not from either the White House or the State Department, but from House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-OH):
steveegg on December 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM
A quarter of a century ago SDI was “a joke” in the sense that it was, in part, a bluff aimed at the Soviets. But a lot of real research and development was initiated then and has borne real results. Now “SDI” consists of serious and effective weapons systems, although on a smaller scale than originally proposed.
ZenDraken on December 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM
And I knew people, in fact the person ahead of the laser development for the project who stated that it was going to be the greatest defensive weapon ever created…that if they had proper funding it would basically make ICBM’s obsolete.
I have no idea who you talked to…but I would put my man, up against your man any day for inside knowledge.
He was pulled out of retirement to head up the program, and was one of the lead engineers (radar and laser development) for Blackbird. And was called upon to develop a better system of radar for the Cobra’s after the first gulf war.
Sorry Charlie, stopping this development, the one defensive device that the communists feared the most, was and is a huge mistake…Russia, China, the rest feared the development of this more then anything.
right2bright on December 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM
There were quite a number of different R&D trajectories to SDI. Some were fanciful, some impractical, and some just ahead of their time, like satellite-born lasers or ‘smart pellets’ that could destroy an enemy missile in boost phase (the best time to hit them).
A lot of progress has been made, despite all the naysayers, on ground-based interception (always the riskiest—”hitting a bullet with a bullet”), and recently on airborne lasers. We’re getting there, and we’d get there a lot faster if it weren’t for dimbulb ideologues like our current President.
MrLynn on December 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Weren’t the Patriot missiles part of SDI, or at least the same general technology? In Gulf War 1, they worked OK. Not perfect but they did shoot down incoming Scuds. Granted I have no insider info, but I would assume 18 years later it’s gotta be working pretty well.
Saying the technology is a joke, is a joke.
angryed on December 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Overheard in 1491, Italy
Moesart on December 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM ancestor: They’ve been talking about this round earth for 25+ years. It’s a joke.
angryed on December 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Just think of it as the Mullahs fisting America.
loudmouth883 on December 16, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I will tell you a real fairy tale…launching an attack plane from in Afghan, form Arizona and having that plane, pilotless fly a actual attack mission and destroy enemy positions. Kind of like a computer game…that would be soooo awwwwesome man, kind of foolish, but really cool. But it won’t happen, video games will never be used by the military.
right2bright on December 16, 2009 at 12:08 PM
That doesn’t exactly strengthen your case. Iran couldn’t give a rodent’s posterior about hitting Europe. Arab neighbors, the Jewish state, and America are on their radar screen; Europe, even the boogeyman UK, would only be an afterthought, and, if they had enough weapons to hit it and all their other targets, they’d have enough to overwhelm a missile defense system, which, remember, is designed for a single rogue missile. That doesn’t mean missile defense isn’t a worthy project, just that European missile defense is rather unimportant in this instance.
calbear on December 16, 2009 at 12:20 PM
And people wonder why I drink…
lovingmyUSA on December 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM
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HI ELDUENDE 9:41 and MOESART 11:07. I can’t believe that Russki subs had to go back to liquid rocket fueled missiles. I saw liquid fueled missiles at White Sands when I was in the Army long ago–dangerous fuels that explode when mixed–and burn through a person in seconds if they leak on flesh and bone. Even the Lance TBM–pre-packaged fuel pod that was put into the bird just before launch–was dangerous. And took a long time to “arm” the missile. I remember “hiding out” for an hour when a nasty brown-orange toxic cloud of chemicals came our way after a liquid fuel missile blew up a few seconds after launch!
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As far as SDI–it was a lot of different approaches. Lasers, space based sensors, “last ditch” Patriot PAC-3, THAAD, and Navy SM3 type interceptors. The laser items worked fairly well as prototypes, and the last ditch interceptors work pretty well in realistic tests–against a few inbound missiles.
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The current SDI long range interceptors are modified ICBM’s with hit to kill intercepts possible against a single target each. Only tens of interceptors are available–Comrade Obama (PBUH) cut this system’s funding back a year ago.
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But who needs protection against one or two inbound nukes? Hiroshima and Nagasaki only had a few (hundreds of thousands!) casualties and were rebuilt soon, right? And The Messiah and his brilliant Secretary of State Hillary Clinton can easily defuse any potential threat by SMART DIPLOMACY. Who needs anti-missile defense when all you need is a WE SURRENDER sign and a stick to put it on–Neville Chamberlain “peace in our time” style.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on December 16, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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