Obama to warn Dems: This is America’s last shot at universal health care

posted at 3:35 pm on December 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

Granting Tom Maguire’s point that history begins and ends in The One’s mind with his own presidency, I think Obama’s right this time.

In a provocative argument designed to rescue his foundering health care plan, President Barack Obama will warn Senate Democrats in a White House meeting Tuesday that this is the “last chance” to pass comprehensive reform…

White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer told POLITICO: “If President Obama doesn’t pass health reform, it’s hard to imagine another president ever taking on this Herculean task. For those whose life’s work is reforming health care, this may be the last train leaving the station.”

Previewing the message, Vice President Joe Biden said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe”: “If health care does not pass in this Congress … it’s going to be kicked back for a generation.”

Senate majorities may change but the graying of the population is a constant, which is why Karl’s correct that this will only get harder for the left in years ahead. As the Medicare rolls bloat with Boomers and medical advances extend lifespans, the you’re-not-sacrificing-my-benefits! demographic will be even bigger and fiercer at the polls than it is now. Thanks partly to ObamaCare, independents over age 55 already favor congressional Republicans over Democrats; if they’re not prepared to share the generational wealth and endure a little rationing now in the name of universal health care, their mood won’t be improved circa 2030. Especially since we’ll have long past the point of solvency for Medicare by then, leaving the program and its participants hungry for every last dollar they can scrounge from the budget.

So this is it for the Dems, unless they’re content to ease off and accept piecemeal centrist reforms (interstate competition for insurers?) over the next few years. And it looks like they’re going to make it, finally: Although Snowe reportedly told GOP leaders that she won’t be the 60th vote for cloture, Nelson’s being bullied into going along and Lieberman now sounds like a yes. No word from Lincoln, Pryor, or Bayh, but if Joementum doesn’t have the balls to kill this thing off singlehandedly, I can’t believe any of them will. In fact, irony of ironies, Lieberman may have ended up doing the left a favor. Says Jonathan Cohn at TNR:

Disappointed progressives may be wondering whether their efforts were a waste. They most decidedly were not. The campaign for the public option pushed the entire debate to the left–and, to use a military metaphor, it diverted enemy fire away from the rest of the bill. If Lieberman and his allies didn’t have the public option to attack, they would have tried to gut the subsidies, the exchanges, or some other key element. They would have hacked away at the bill, until it left more people uninsured and more people under-insured. The public option is the reason that didn’t happen.

Ramesh Ponnuru and Karl (again) made the same point months ago. Instead of attacking the bill at all its points of unpopularity, e.g., the individual mandate that dictates fines and even prison terms for people who refuse to buy insurance, the conservative assault has been drawn to the public option and its potential to metastasize into single-payer. A worthy battle, but winning it is still going to leave us with the basic outline of ObamaCare in all its eventual deficit-busting glory. Like Byron York says, no matter how bad the polls get, there’s only one way out for the Democrats at this point. Exit quotation: “[T]hey think they know what’s best for the public… They think the facts are being distorted and the public’s being told a story that is not entirely true, and that they are in Congress to be leaders. And they are going to make the decision because Goddammit, it’s good for the public.”


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if they’re not prepared to share the generational wealth and endure a little rationing now in the name of universal health care, their mood won’t be improved circa 2030

No rationing, period. Once that road is crossed it is a giant black hole.
Who gets told they can’t have a CAT scan?

Your Mom, my Mom? No way Jack. We did not work our lives to take a back seat on medical services.

Want to call that selfish? Go right ahead.

FireBlogger on December 15, 2009 at 4:17 PM

There are so many people in this country who live in reality and may have never gone to college who have more common sense in our fingernails than those radical,clueless beltway people will ever have.

ohiobabe on December 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Even with his personal poll numbers and Healthcare Reform poll numbers going in the toilet, Obama Antoinette is still saying, “Let them eat arugula”.

kingsjester on December 15, 2009 at 4:19 PM

I can’t help but laugh at Mr. President’s predicament. I mean, how could anyone with half a brain turn over a project like health care reform to the likes of Pelosi and Reid and expect anything short of a disaster to come of it? Then there were the lies he himself made along the way, lying about who it covers, lying about it being deficit free, lying about people being able to keep their plan. He has only himself to blame for this, but will he accept the blame? hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

pause

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

scalleywag on December 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM

If this is America’s last shot at universal health care, then let’s:

1. Kill it.
2. Throw the Democrats out of power next year.
3. Repeal it when conservatives are in power if we can’t kill it now.

Eichendorff on December 15, 2009 at 4:21 PM

There are so many people in this country who live in reality and may have never gone to college who have more common sense in our fingernails than those radical,clueless beltway people will ever have.

ohiobabe on December 15, 2009 at 4:18 PM

I know a lot of professionals who’ve been to college. They’re experts in their fields, nice people, and very intelligent, in their lines of work. But …..common sense is a foreign entity to them. College doesn’t teach what mom, and dad should have taught.

capejasmine on December 15, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Ordinarily I’d agree, but the next Congress and Administration will HAVE to cut entitlements. This country is heading toward bankruptcy.

Doughboy on December 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Yeah, this bill just speeds up the bankruptcy. Its absolutely inevitable that massive painful cuts and tax hikes are coming to finally pay for 75 years of liberal theft from the next generation.

And I don’t completely agree this will be undoable. All the pain comes immediately- tax hikes, mandates and all the regulations that will spike premiums will come years before the handouts begin. And the furious 90% of America will far outweigh the 10% given yet another benefit.

Chuck Schick on December 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM

This is NOT the last shot at fiscally responsible health care legislation to CUT COSTS, cut corruption, and enable customers to buy policies regardless of state borders.

maverick muse on December 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM

hahaha

Take a look at Drudge.

OBAMA: ONE LAST SCARE

Is this where the left calls Drudge a racist? Or this where Obama calls Drudge a fake news organization?

ConservativeTony on December 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I know a lot of professionals who’ve been to college. They’re experts in their fields, nice people, and very intelligent, in their lines of work.
//
Oh yeah,same here.We know professors who don’t have a clue about normal,every day problems and how to fix them. This whole thing blows me away because I see a problem that can be fixed so easily by just stopping what they doing and doing an about face.Unfortunately,I think a lot of them know how to fix it but then they would not have control they want.Well,at least half or more of this country are not going to let theselves be controlled by a bunch of arrogant clueless,imbeciles.

ohiobabe on December 15, 2009 at 4:30 PM

I’m pretty sure this has been called a “Scare Tactic”.

PappaMac on December 15, 2009 at 4:33 PM

OMG, Obama is ready to go on MTV. It’s The Matrix Reloaded!

Somebody has been reading the Hollywood scripts again.

Architect: “The Matrix is older than you know… this is the 6th version.” …. The function of the One is now to return to the source, … After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, … The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. …

The Architect – Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the …

After Neo warns the Architect that they had better not meet again (the Architect assures him … you won’t)

Americannodash on December 15, 2009 at 4:33 PM

This is America’s last shot at universal health care

If only that were true. 60 years and counting the socialists have been pushing for this – ain’t going to end in my lifetime, unless they succeed.

Vashta.Nerada on December 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM

This is absolutely Not America’s last shot at socialism.

Thune on December 15, 2009 at 4:36 PM

It’s The Matrix Reloaded!

The prophecy isn’t true: the One is not meant to free mankind.

Americannodash on December 15, 2009 at 4:47 PM

It would not be the end of health reform, just the end of a Democrat takeover of health care.

Republicans can institute reforms like being able to buy insurance over state lines, and tort reform – one bill at a time. Hopefully we have learned the lesson that ambitious “comprehensive” bills are inevitably a disaster, no matter what the topic.

Buy Danish on December 15, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Fearmongering by the Feckless leader? How shocking.

ihasurnominashun on December 15, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Right, Congress doesn’t retry failed policies and idiotic plans. *eyeroll*

Look at the Amnesty bill in 1965. It was great, it was going to fix the problem forever and cause no problems, and all we had to do was approve the amnesty… so we did.

…the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates or those with contagious disease. – Ted Kennedy

Now look at the amnesty bill in the 1986. It was great, it was going to fix the problem forever and secure the border so it wouldn’t happen again, and all we had to do was approve the amnesty… so we did.

“This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forth an amnesty bill like this.” – Ted Kennedy

Now look at the Amnesty battle last year… wait was I arguing for or against the Government repeating failure like a broken record? Because yeah, they totally do that.

If this fails we’ll come back to it in 15-20 years tops, with the belief that it is a new, brilliant, and innovative idea and not a rehash of what has already failed. It’s what we always seem to do.

gekkobear on December 15, 2009 at 5:08 PM

The Architect:
The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection.

Thune on December 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Zero must believe in that ancient SNL prophecy about the world ending in 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvGKF5qPObU

Mr Purple on December 15, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Just saw on USA Today ‘President Obama, surrounded by Senate Democratic leaders, said today “we are on the precipice” of major health care reform…’ Yeah, we’re on the precipice alright, wonder who dragged us to the edge of it.

mikeyz on December 15, 2009 at 5:36 PM

When Lieberman came out with his No to Obamacare I wrote on the thread that he would vote for it. Regardless of what comes as the final bill, Lieberman will not vote against it. He only likes the attention and the sound of being an independent. Other than standing by McCain’s run for the presidency, he will always be a loyal Dem. Count on it.

Oleta on December 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM

They’ll be damned alright.

These gutless, ball-less cowards wouldn’t know courage if it hit them in the face!!

Courage? Stand upto the babykiller in the White House!!!!

That’s courage!!!

PappyD61 on December 15, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Then we must kill the bill cuz Michelle Obama told Americans that this was our only chance to get a man like Barack for POTUS and we see how that has screwed the nation royally. This seizure of the health and financial industries will screw us even more.

SilentWatcher on December 15, 2009 at 6:42 PM

It could be that if the public option really is gone, the critics of the bill can move onto other things, like the mandates. I honestly think most Americans will find the idea of their neighbors being hauled off to jail for no insurance to be outrageous. I know I do.

There is still the conference bill to fight about. The Democrats will probably get something passed, but that does not mean the critics have to stop talking about the bill.

Terrye on December 15, 2009 at 8:45 PM

When Lieberman came out with his No to Obamacare I wrote on the thread that he would vote for it. Regardless of what comes as the final bill, Lieberman will not vote against it. He only likes the attention and the sound of being an independent. Other than standing by McCain’s run for the presidency, he will always be a loyal Dem. Count on it.

Oleta on December 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Lieberman said he would not support a public option in the final bill because of the costs. He never said he would not support some kind of reform package. He never said he would say no to anything and everything the Democrats come up with.

He was very clear about that. His problem was not with Congress passing health care reform, it was with the public option.

Terrye on December 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM

And Lieberman was standing up against the doves in his party and was taking heat for that long before McCain ran for president.

Terrye on December 15, 2009 at 8:50 PM

President Barack Obama will warn Senate Democrats in a White House meeting Tuesday that this is the “last chance” to pass comprehensive reform

Let’s hope that it’s a promise.

whbates on December 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Socialists use democracy the same way terrorists use hijacked aircraft- to damage America. But Socialists do terrorists one step better-the damage they cause often become irreversible entitlements. Whereas a democracy is slow to react-often at the speed of a pregnant hippopotamus, socialists slash and destroy at the speed of rabid wolves.

Yes, the people are angry but the socialists know they have a year to exert damage so extensive (Health Care to be quickly followed by Cap and Trade) that by election time there may be no recourse to reverse the damage.

In pursuing goals for the “greater good” morality becomes no obstacle. Lie, cheat, obfuscate,compromise, prevaricate, hedge, bribe, threaten, extort and perhaps, even send purple-shirted goons to intimidate and bite off fingers.

The important thing is to pass a Bill (even a totally stripped bill) which allows the government total control over people, events and institutions-a skeletal framework if you will. Little by little meat can be added to the bones-public option, Medicare qualifications, abortion, illegal aliens, and millions of former ACORN employees will now be serving as Health Care administrators. No wonder Obama is in a hurry. You’ve got to make hay while the sun shines.

MaiDee on December 15, 2009 at 11:30 PM

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