Obama to transfer Gitmo detainees to Illinois prison
posted at 8:45 am on December 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
This doesn’t exactly come as a surprise, since (a) Barack Obama is desperate to close Gitmo any way he can do it now, (b) Illinois Democrats practically lobbied to use the Thomson Correctional Facility for that purpose, and (c) Obama can afford to anger Illinois. What — they’re going to abandon their native son in 2012? Anyway, the folks of Illinois may be forgiven if they scratch their heads at the curious notion that we’re about to import terrorists as a way to improve national security:
A prison complex 150 miles from Chicago will house Gitmo detainees, the Obama administration will announce Tuesday.
A senior administration official tells ABC News that on Tuesday the administration will announce that President Obama “has directed that the federal government proceed with the acquisition of the Thomson Correctional Center in Thomson, Illinois to house federal inmates and a limited number of detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.” …
“Closing the detention center at Guantanamo is essential to protecting our national security and helping our troops by removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al Qaeda,” the official said. “Tomorrow’s announcement is an important step forward as we work to achieve our national security objectives.”
Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn and Sen. Dick Durbin, two leading officials — both Democrats — who have supported the move, will be briefed on the decision Tuesday by administration officials.
Closing Gitmo protects our national security by … removing a recruiting tool from Osama bin Laden? Wow. Who knew that AQ would be crippled by Gitmo’s closure? I guess we can breathe a sigh of relief to the halcyon pre-Gitmo days when bin Laden couldn’t find anyone to conduct large-scale terrorist attacks, like 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers in 1996, the twin bombings of our embassies in Tanzania in 1998, and the USS Cole attack in 2000.
Again, not much of a surprise here, but expect this to dramatically change the rules of the game. Once the US brings these terrorists into the US, we can no longer hold them as unlawful combatants. If they manage to beat the courts — not an unlikely scenario, given the fact that they were captured and not properly “arrested” — they’ll have to get released here in the US. After all, deporting them turns out to be a big problem, since no one else has been foolish enough to agree to let them into their country.
Well, except Obama.
Will Congress attempt to stop the AQ Airlift? They could do that if they had enough votes to override an Obama veto, but that seems very unlikely with Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker. Expect Republicans to use this as just another example of Democratic cluelessness in 2010, along the lines of ” This administration seems a lot more concerned with the comfort of terrorists than with creating jobs for Americans,” and expect it to resonate.
Update: Dan Calabrese has a must-read interview with Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, on why this is a very bad idea:
“The public doesn’t really know who these people are,” Hoekstra said in a Monday afternoon interview with The North Star National. “They don’t know what they’ve done. I’ve seen the profiles of many of these people. I know who they are. I know what they’ve done and I know why we haven’t sent them back anywhere else in the world.”
Because the information he has is classified, Hoekstra is not able to go into much detail about what these 200-some detainees have been doing at Guantanamo Bay. But one thing he makes clear is that their efforts to kill Americans did not stop when they arrived at Gitmo, and that’s going to present challenges you don’t face with your typical prisoner – even with a serial killer.
“I can’t give you the profile of someone who is on murderers row and is serving a life sentence versus a jihadist, and how you might hold them differently,” Hoekstra said. “But talking with experts, they said it’s two very, very different problems. In 99 percent of the cases, these radical jihadists will behave differently. They’re still invested in killing Americans. It’s not like they’ve been arrested and convicted and given a life sentence for a fit of rage where they killed their neighbor. These people are still committed to destroying the American system and killing Americans.”
And they just might get a first-hand opportunity to do that in Thomson. While their actual guards will almost certainly be U.S. military personnel, the Obama Administration has promised that the federal government would bring – and pay for – as many as 3,800 new jobs to the community as part of the agreement for Thomson to host the Gitmo detainees.
Read the whole thing. It’s almost unfathomable as to how any administration could give up a facility perfectly suited for this kind of detention, run by military units trained to do it, in favor of dropping terrorists into the heartland of America. Why almost unfathomable? After increasing troop strength in Afghanistan, Obama needed to throw a bone to the Left, and this is it.









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Are muslims waging war on us?
Johan Klaus on December 15, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Right. Why do we have to pay for them to be housed here when Gitmo is a perfectly good prison? Because of p.r.? Who cares? To make it easier on their lawyers? Again, who cares. Wait until he first one riots and/or kills a guard. There will be a big outcry but it will be too late to do anything about it. Donks sux.
Blake on December 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Overheard in a Pakistani mosque…
“You know, I was going to join AQ and wage war on the infidels, but I just heard that President Obama moved some prisoners from Cuba to Illinois. My only wish now is to get my hands on a copy of The Federalist Papers.”
Honestly!
mankai on December 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM
What could go wrong?
Johan Klaus on December 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Next thing you know they’ll be giving the Gitmo base itself to Cuba.
TXUS on December 15, 2009 at 9:51 AM
I challenge anyone to present a rational, logical explanation of how it’s any different to hold these Islamoscum in a maximum security facility in Illinois than it is to hold them in a maximum security facility in Cuba? If there is no difference, why do it? Will others like us more? Will we be safer? Will they scum be treated more humanely? What’s the explnation?
uncalheels on December 15, 2009 at 9:51 AM
This prison sits just a few miles from the Iowa border. What’s in Iowa every four years? The presidential caucuses, international media attention, the top politicians in the country.
Thanks Barack, for making Iowa a new terrorist target. Steve King & Tom Latham tried to prevent this, but the Dems in Iowa were all for it.
bigred on December 15, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Mark Kirk – welcome to the US Senate
gophergirl on December 15, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Not so quick.
Because of Kirk’s support for the bail-out and high NARAL rating/low NRA rating he is hugely unpopular with Illinois conservatives. If he wins the primary me and the husband will vote for him because we’d rather have a liberal that will be on our side rather than a liberal that is never on our side however many of our friends have said in that case they will either vote 3rd party or stay home.
annoyinglittletwerp on December 15, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Why not go the whole hog and release them into the community, placing them with willing Obot host families?
That’ll rehabilitate them, right?
And progressives would just love the pure progressiveness of the scheme (while ignoring its impracticalities and dangers).
Track-A-'Crat on December 15, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Exactly.
And I don’t know much about being in prison personally, but if given a choice between a warm, tropical locale and a freezing cold (winter) concrete prison…the answer is clear.
Maybe it IS a good idea, hmmm….
JetBoy on December 15, 2009 at 9:54 AM
More than imaginable that that could happen. Team Obama strikes gold, again.
Track-A-'Crat on December 15, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Wipe your chin off.
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM
That was pretty good. The thing is, how much you want to bet some liberal newsie will stage an interview with a Muslim claiming something like this, just for show?
jwolf on December 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Mr. Hoekstra, many of us do know. And are rightly outraged at this. Our secret wish is that maybe some of them will escape so we can take care of business.
davidk on December 15, 2009 at 10:03 AM
My gravest concern is who will be the next residence of this new and improved Gittmo?
I am sure that the next residence will be those incarcerated for numerous criminal behaviors, not just captured terrorists.
The problem that is occurring, in other prisons, across the nation today will be magnified.
Today, prisons are incubators, growing anti everything minds to adopt religion as their salvation and road to freedom. Within many parole hearings, you can find prisoners being declared fully rehabilitated, because they adopted and allowed religion into their lives demonstrated via appearing peaceful and have not caused any problems since adopting a highly religious way of life.
However, research shows the reality is they have adopted the religion of peace – Islam. What is not viewed by the Parole Board is the reality that they have adopted the radicalized version of Islam that teaches followers they are justified to use violence of any means to attain their goals.
Why bring the snakes into the neighborhood in the first place. I have worked on rattlesnake round-ups in Texas, and the Round-ups are justified for the milking of the snakes to benefit others who may be bitten in the wild. But, the round-up also is an annual community event because anything associated with the rattle snake are sold to further benefit the community.
What is not fully recognized is the fact that in their natural habitat a deadly rattlesnake is basically quite tranquil and not at all aggressive. But, when captured and rounded up they become far more aggressive than one can imagine and as such are more deadly because in the environment of the round-up they produce more venom (good for the manufactures of anti venom, bad for anything bitten).
The bottom line why bring a den of deadly rattlesnakes into a tranquil neighborhood and expect you are doing the right thing for the community and the rattlesnake. The community and country will become the victim.
MSGTAS on December 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Oh, this could be fun. The sequel starring Jihad Jake and Al wood Blues.
Laura in Maryland on December 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM
LOL, you need to wipe your chin off as well.
So, are you and Bleeds Bleu exchanging O’bama Kneepads as gifts this year?
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM
A small percentage of the 1.4 billion Muslims in the world are at war with us. The idea is to make that an even smaller percentage.
Bleeds Blue on December 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Achmed: “Mohammed, are you going to go down and join Al Qaeda today?”
Mohammed: “I was, but then I read that they closed Guantanamo Bay, so now I like America again.”
Kafir on December 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM
I really can’t think of a bigger way for Obama to say “F— you!” to his state of residence than to send that pile of trash to them. I hope that Illinois voters remember that in the Senate election next November and return the favor in kind by pressing the button next to the (R)!
flutejpl on December 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM
If they escape or are broken out by their brothers perhaps it will be when Congress is on break and they capture Dick Durbin and saw his head off.
bluegrass on December 15, 2009 at 10:11 AM
One other thought. If the prison of choice doesn’t have AC or heat, perhaps it would be okay. Thanks to the proximity of the ocean’s tempering effect on temperature, it can get hotter in Illinois than it can in Gitmo in the summer, and it surely can get a lot colder in the winter.
flutejpl on December 15, 2009 at 10:12 AM
If I lived any where near Thomson I would request Google Earth blackout every thing within a 50 mile radius of the prison and get the street view shut down as soon as possible.
fourdeucer on December 15, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I’m reaching the point where it’s “They voted for it, let them enjoy it”.
Sorry, but it’s true.
Techie on December 15, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I would love to see some libtard spit on one our heroes.
davidk on December 15, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Are muslims waging war on anyone else?
Johan Klaus on December 15, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Should we kill the muslims that are waging war on us?
Johan Klaus on December 15, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I can understand: frustration tends to produce apathy.
But stand strong. This time it really is about the children.
davidk on December 15, 2009 at 10:23 AM
As many as 3,800 new jobs to the 2.2 mile-size village of Thomson that hosts 234 housing units in rural northwest Illinois, about 150 miles west of Chicago’s hub of transportation rail/highway/air. The Thomson prison near the Iowa border is not far from the Mississippi River. Geez, nothing could go wrong being on the Mississippi River.
Estimated median household income in 2007: $47,244 ($36,667 in 2000).
Estimated median house or condo value in 2007: $118,949 ($72,800 in 2000).
Thomson hosts an American Legion Post, Lions Club, and Women’s Club, one Baptist, one Community Ecumenical, and two Methodist Churches. With more women in the population than men, this town has no idea what hell’s bringing to their doorstep in the name of Obama.
maverick muse on December 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM
The Thomson population was 559 at the 2000 census. As many as 3,200 new jobs will bring that many new residents. Which of Obama’s donors bought up the rural property while it was cheap?
maverick muse on December 15, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Strictly on ideological grounds, San Francisco denied the Marines access to the Golden Gate Bridge.
maverick muse on December 15, 2009 at 10:30 AM
One of the most horrifying scenarios is the possible takeover of a school, like what happened in Beslan. Release the prisoners or we kill all the students. If some of the kids are the children of Illinois prison guards or cops, well, that’s all the better leverage, right?
Bringing jihad to Main Street is a really, really bad idea.
bonnie_ on December 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM
These are going to extra interesting times in the ILARNG…
LTC John on December 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM
You have to remember that we embolden them just by being who we are — they hate our way of life. Keep in mind that Osama Bin Laden viewed us as morally weak and militarily shallow, which led to a string of terror attacks, culminating in 9/11.
I’m all for what President Obama has done to increase troops in Afghanistan, but it’s a dangerous thing to place Gitmo detainees in an American prison.
What will happen if there are a string of break out attempts? It’s impossible to do that at Gitmo (for obvious reasons), but in a prison on American soil, it’s that much easier.
Richard Romano on December 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM
And the first “Muslim” refused to be hired as a guard will have a great lawsuit…and the second, and third, and fourth….
right2bright on December 15, 2009 at 10:44 AM
This is just sickning. More rights for terrorist and less rights for the people of America. This administration makes me sick. How is the world going to love us more for this. They are going to think we are stupid for bringing those that murdered our people to our homeland way to go Zero.
Brat4life on December 15, 2009 at 10:48 AM
As you pontificate, please enlighten us, how many of these Muslims want to do harm to the U.S.? Give us a statistic.
Are you saying just 3%? You mean just 42 million, or 1%, just 14 million want to attack and destroy America…
right2bright on December 15, 2009 at 10:48 AM
I suppose it’s only fitting that they end up in Illinois. Unfortunately that puts these vile disgusting human beings some 30 miles from where I live. Fortunately I ship out for basic training in February so I’ll be far away from them, but my family won’t be. Unfortunatley it’ll be my job to help capture more of these terrorists so we can send them back near our homes. All this in a pathetic attempt to try to be nice to our enemies so they won’t attack us in the future.
Something about this just doesn’t sound right, but what would any of us know about it… The mind of a liberal is truly something to behold (and NOT in a good way!)
niuhuskie2009 on December 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I just thought of another side affect of this. Now the hard-core lefties will have a place to set up shop and protest outside the walls.
Paging Eric Cartman, this part of Illinois is about to be infested.
reaganaut on December 15, 2009 at 10:51 AM
This will help property values…They hire 3,800, and 38,000 move out…typical liberal, as long as they get what they want, they will be more then happy to sacrifice anything someone else has…
right2bright on December 15, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This guy governs standing on a house of cards. IF these detainees get trials and are acquitted, the Obama Administration won’t let them walk….at least not on U.S. soil. Soooo, The One will bring them here, and if this deal goes south on him, our president will be like a man running across a frozen lake ahead of the breaking ice.
It’d be humorous if it wasn’t so deadly serious.
tgharris on December 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Obama has to move the detainess before he can give back Guantanamo to Cuba.
davod on December 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Late to the thread…..but what happened to those public hearings we were promised on December 22nd in Sterling Illinois?
Thompson is less than 20 miles from a nuclear facility and how close to the Mississippi River and Davenport Iowa?
And our own thugs are being released early because of overcrowding? Illinois Prisons Shave Terms, Secretly Release Inmate
And to the rest of you who keep repeating us folks in Illinois are getting exactly what we deserve because we elected this buffoon. You know what you can do…….don’t throw all of us under the bus.
Knucklehead on December 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Many loved ones, as well as many posters on this site, live in Illinois. Now is the time to convince them to move.
Wouldn’t it be something if the entire State of Illinois said thank you to The One by scratching their heads with their middle finger and all at once packed up and moved?
One can hope….
rukiddingme on December 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Obama’s home state, how fitting.
So this is how we appease the enemy? Hell, even Chamberlain would laugh at this.
Tony737 on December 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Barry suffers from a newly-diagnosed illness known as:
Obama’s Gesture.
The main symptom is bowing to everything.
Along with a tendency to malicious delusions.
profitsbeard on December 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM
“Promised”? Who do you think means more to these people (I ask rhetorically)…..Illinois, or the whack jobs on the coasts? Now, if they want to send them to our fair state, I’d suggest southern Illinois. Lotta deer hunters…bow and shotgun both. Maybe they’d even get a rifle season out of the deal.
PS: If the Left really thought these were bad people, they’d move them next to a coal fired power plant.
tgharris on December 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM
And didn’t they turn down the offer of a battleship or something?
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM
The detainees will still be unlawful combatants, but they will on American soil, not in GITMO.
So they will have ACLU lawyers visiting and filing actions in the local U.S. District Court. And the Court will have jurisdiction to consider and rule on those legal actions filed on behalf of the detainees.
Nothing but trouble. Nothing but stupidity by Obama.
slp on December 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Yes.
tgharris on December 15, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Hey, you all right thinking people in Illinois just need to move over here to Indiana…
At least we have the right to carry a gun for our self defense.
Keith_Indy on December 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Obowma has never visited Gitmo…
Seven Percent Solution on December 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM
awesome. A 1 hour drive and I can visit some real live terrorists. How exciting.
ReformedAndDangerous on December 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Slick. Appease the leftist radicals with regards to Gitmo, while simultaneously coming up with an excuse to funnel millions–if not billions–of federal dollars into the home state, and more importantly its Democrat political machine, in the name of “vital security concerns.” +10 to chutzpau.
Blacklake on December 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM
alph 1 leader to sniper teams 3, 4, 5: “are the snipers in position”.
“roger, alpha 1″.
alpha leader 1: “we only have one shot at this. when the vans pull up to bring in the detainees to the thomson prison processing center. shoot to kill”.
“roger, alpha 1″.
Yep, bring the war to our shores and there won’t be any court cases….
jbh45 on December 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Of course, real criminal defendants want their attorneys alive. The animals in question here won’t differentiate between an ACLU lawyer and a US Marine, save to realize the former has almost no ability whatsoever to defend itself (in the fundamental courtroom of physical conflict, that is). I wonder what the ACLU’s position will be the first time one of the “inmates” finds enough of a gap in security to kill a member of his defense team?
Blacklake on December 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM
This happened this morning. The thing is whenever Al qeada assassinates someone it is usually the trigger of a terrorist attack.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/world/asia/16afghan.html
Dr Evil on December 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM
You do realize there’s a much more practical method for reducing that percentage. But that would require taking their threat seriously and actually viewing them as adults who are responsible for their own actions and choices.
The arrogance and incompetence of this administration is going to result in the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people.
Cylor on December 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM
makes me what to scream!!
i truly hope the left is happy about this, cause they are gonna be crying come 2010…
cmsinaz on December 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Instead of the Olympics, Illinois gets the terrorists. Well it’s something, isn’t it?
Dhuka on December 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I hope they do…and very often…
cmsinaz on December 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I think everyone should send Durbin a note saying ” I can’t wait til the Iowa caucuses in 2012″
This is a stupid move by Obama and Durbin and Quinn. I already posted my 11-13 reasons why they shouldn’t be moved here when this news first came out.
Why are they having a meeting in Stirling if its already decided? Thomson and the surrounding area better make sure they get PLENTY of money for security improvements and make sure NOT ONE DIME gets into Quinn’s, Durbin’s or Obama’s nest egg.
journeyintothewhirlwind on December 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM
The Gitmo is dead — long live the Gitmo!
unclesmrgol on December 15, 2009 at 12:03 PM
After two years of evangelical fervor reading the Koran to their fellow inmates, the Gitmo Guys will paroled for good behavior and become Community Organizers for ACORN, just in time for the 2012 election. It’s the Chicago way.
Steve Z on December 15, 2009 at 12:08 PM
You do realize that it’s easier, cheaper and more effective to prevent someone from becoming a terrorist than it is to hunt down and kill someone who’s already taken up arms.
I’m not sure what country you live in but in my country of America, the Administration has just ordered an increase in the number of troops being sent to battle terrorists and continues to kill aQ leaders across the border in Pakistan with heartening regularity.
Bleeds Blue on December 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Only if they can turn out the “dogs and dead people” vote.
tgharris on December 15, 2009 at 12:14 PM
A few years ago, I’d have said you were wrong, Ed. During WWII, we held German and Italian POWs on our soil and none of them were premitted to avail themselves of the civilian court system.
In the old days, an unlawful combatant (one not wearing the uniform of his nation’s army) would have been summarily executed, in full accord with the Geneva Conventions. That may well be the issue here — these people have been treated as lawful combatants.
A bunch of liberal attornies are sure to try to spring these guys. The only solution is to recognize them as lawful combatants, and then to apply the full Geneva Convention, which mandates that said combatants not be tried in civilian courts for acts of war unless our own soldiers are customarily treated that way as well. With respect to crimes committed after capture, the Geneva Convention requires also that POWs be treated as our own soldiers would be treated for similar offenses. Finally, the Geneva Convention allows the capturing power to hold said POWs until cessation of hostilities, and, at that cessation (or upon parole), requires the capturing power to return the POW to his or her country of origin.
I see a win-win situation all around if we insist on scrupulous adherence to the Geneva Conventions.
unclesmrgol on December 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Related satire: Obama Brings “Terrorist Olympians” to Home State as “Consolation Prize” for His Failure to Bring Real Olympics to Chicago http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/12/obama-brings-terrorist-olympians-to.html
Mervis Winter on December 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I doubt the Administration is killing anyone here, or, if they are, we’ll have to look for concrete galoshes about the Capital. As for the troop increase, bravo, Gen. McChrystal, for holding Mr. Obama’s balls to the fire!
unclesmrgol on December 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Oh… that would be the country I’ve litteraly shed blood for… while protecting YOUR sorry butt sitting back in America… allowing you to sit on your Moral High Ground… while WE did the dirty work keeping you safe.
/walks off, shaking his head in disgust.
Romeo13 on December 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Of course we will, as soon as the lease is up…
Khun Joe on December 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Obama owns the next attack on US soil.
Little Boomer on December 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Question becomes, under the Legal Framework of the Geneva Convention, are we really at War?
We are technicly an occupying power right now, but with a sitting Legal Local Government… and our actions in Pakistan are even more Legaly questionable under the auspices of Geneva.
We are in uncharted legal territory here… and IMO the LEGAL questions need to be fixed, before we start doing anything with these prisoners…
Romeo13 on December 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Anyone want to bet Camp Gitmo North will be turned into a photo op once the lil’ darlings are snuggled up in their beds?
Monkeybrains220 on December 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Looks like my liberal in-laws may live across the river from the prison. Sure hope the prisoners can’t swim.
yoda on December 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Must find the missing Bush e-mails
Computer technicians have found 22 million missing White House e-mails from the administration of President George W. Bush and the Obama administration is searching for dozens more days’ worth of potentially lost e-mail from the Bush years
BDU-33 on December 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM
you got that right, along with all the lefties who support this moron
cmsinaz on December 15, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Which means he’s less of an expert on the subject than Bill O’Reilly, who has visited Gitmo. of course, the Soros-funded Media Matters claimed his visit was propaganda.
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM
How have habeas corpus rights changed or been extended by flying these dirt bags from Gitmo to Illinois?
Answer, not at all. These guys are still being held indefinitely.
I’m all for it (the indefinite detention), but if I were them I would prefer the sandy beaches of Gitmo to rural Illinois. Then again, I’m certain they will be making frequent trips to the Dirksen Building in Chicago to complain about the aforementioned indefinite detention.
Thank you, Dick Durbin.
Angry Dumbo on December 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Really? How do we do so?
This answer should be hallucinogenic.
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM
I forgot one on my list of 11-13
Protecting all the crops. Doesn’t take any bio weapons, just a match and some gasoline on a hot, dry summer night.
journeyintothewhirlwind on December 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Inevitably some will be released into this country and end up on entitlement programs. Good Job Democrat morons!
TrickyDick on December 15, 2009 at 1:29 PM
My sister and her family live within 40 miles of this facility.
Apparently the local rub is that the influx of jobs and their impact on the local economy outweigh any security concerns of those who live there have.
I’m more than a little concerned about this outlook and situation.
Otis B on December 15, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Yeah, this is yet another outrage by Obama and motley crewe. The chain Obama has forged is longer than Scrooge`s by many a mile. And only one year into office. One long outrageous year. Outrage after outrage. But I see no one stopping him. You see someone actually stopping this insanity, you let me know. It needs to be stopped. You had better believe my blood pressure skyrockets when I think about this miserable president and his dangerous idiocy. His foul and arrogant cohorts bring up the bile. Acid reflux. I despise the whole lot of them.
Sherman1864 on December 15, 2009 at 2:53 PM
If so, then who owns 14 deaths at Ft Hood ?
macncheez on December 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Math for you. 19 9/11 hijackers =2,976 victims( NIST estimated that about 17,400 civilians were in the World Trade Center complex at the time of the attacks)
Fort Hood 1 shooter=13 dead & 30 injured
Durbin says 100 terrorists will be moved to Ill. Do the math. What kind of damage do you think those men can do based on the figures I have provided? Do you really think we as a nation should be willing to take those risks in order to look good for foreign countries?
canditaylor68 on December 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM
When this first came out didn’t they say that they would just be held here? So would the trials be held within the prison or would they have to be transported somewhere?
journeyintothewhirlwind on December 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM
You do realize that it’s been almost 3 hours since I asked you to answer this simple question.
Does it always take Soros and Begala and Axelrod this long to get back to you and tell you what to think?
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM
This seems to be an ideal set up for terrorists. I understand there is a public school located one mile from the prison. Certainly would be handy for a gang to hold the entire school hostage and toss out a body per hour until the inmates are released.
Oleta on December 15, 2009 at 4:10 PM
This is 125 miles from my house. I don’t want it here. I wonder how this will affect Quinn’s election probability? He may just have committed political suicide. His primary opponents can use it against him and if he should win the primary, his republican opponent can certainly use it against him.
kimsch on December 15, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Too funny…on O’bama News Network’s afternoon cartoon show for brainwashed college kids, Wolfman Blitz just had a “story” about this.
They prominently featured Dick Turban (D-IL), and then interviewed a couple of locals who thought this was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
But then, they failed to interview any locals opposed to the move.
Dr. Goebbels would approve.
PS, Bleeds Blue…still waiting.
Del Dolemonte on December 15, 2009 at 4:49 PM
There is a suitable prison at Gitmo, their plan is to set up a completely new prison which may also be suitable within the continental U.S. Then they plan to transport the prisoners to this new prison. Why is The Won bothering with this? They’ll still be in prison, without trials. I see no benefit to him and lots of bad karma from the move. What’s wrong with this guy?
Oldnuke on December 15, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Was the plan to move these terrorists to a prison in the USA put up for bids or is that only bad if GW did it?
CWforFreedom on December 15, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Illinois 1 of 2 states left in the US that has no form of conceal carry for law abiding citizens to protect themselves! Why not move Gitmo here? what can go wrong!!
shov74 on December 15, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Why does anyone assume that this new location will have any less value as a Muslim recruiting tool than GITMO? Isn’t the issue that prisoners Muslims are being held? Does the location of the prison matter?
Mormon Doc on December 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Living in Illinois with Sen. Durbin and Burris. How long before the ACLU declares THIS to be cruel and unusual!
shov74 on December 15, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Hello Mudda, Hello Fodda, Here I am at Camp Obama…
Connie on December 15, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Regardless of consequences for transfer, there is no reason to do so. Only immoral people propose leaving Gitmo, anti-americans all.
proconstitution on December 15, 2009 at 8:05 PM
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