Obama’s Nobel speech: Sometimes war is necessary

posted at 2:07 pm on December 10, 2009 by Allahpundit

An obligatory admission from a guy who just ordered 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, but still gratifying given the reality-based community’s eternal argument with reality on this point. The four best minutes are below but do read the full speech, as it’s sufficiently kaleidoscopic to inspire disagreement even among former Bushies like Peter Wehner (liked it) and David Frum (hated it). I feel about it the way I felt about his Afghanistan strategy: Expectations were so dovishly low that even a Hillary-esque “hawk with grave reservations” approach feels like a pleasant surprise.

But not entirely pleasant. The prose is often clunky, especially at the beginning — “War, in one form or another, appeared with the first man” — and the keep-reaching-for-those-stars conclusion. (Writes Tom Maguire, “If platitudes were warheads Obama would have violated a treaty.”) Obama being Obama, the requisite self-aggrandizement vis-a-vis historical figures and subtle disparagement of the Iraq war are also present. Oh, and he also somehow managed to draw the lesson that Reagan achieved peace by agreeing to arms control deals, not by ramping up defense spending to the point where the Soviet economy exhausted itself in trying to keep pace.

The queasiest part:

Agreements among nations. Strong institutions. Support for human rights. Investments in development. All of these are vital ingredients in bringing about the evolution that President Kennedy spoke about. And yet, I do not believe that we will have the will, or the staying power, to complete this work without something more – and that is the continued expansion of our moral imagination; an insistence that there is something irreducible that we all share.

As the world grows smaller, you might think it would be easier for human beings to recognize how similar we are; to understand that we all basically want the same things; that we all hope for the chance to live out our lives with some measure of happiness and fulfillment for ourselves and our families…

But we do not have to think that human nature is perfect for us to still believe that the human condition can be perfected. We do not have to live in an idealized world to still reach for those ideals that will make it a better place. The non-violence practiced by men like Gandhi and King may not have been practical or possible in every circumstance, but the love that they preached – their faith in human progress – must always be the North Star that guides us on our journey.

For a self-styled realist and pragmatist — the money line in the clip is “I face the world as it is” — those bold-faced bits make The One sound an awful lot like Bush asserting that all people share a common desire for freedom. It’s vintage above-the-fray Obama, insisting that we’re all basically on the same side so let’s come together and organize this world community, darn it. But is it true? Is tough Russian and Chinese action on Iran a matter of waiting for their “moral imaginations” to blossom, or are they simply acting in their own self-interest by hedging on sanctions? Striving towards the perfection of the human condition — less war, less poverty — is a worthy goal, but only a sucker thinks it’s attainable.

But enough of the bad. Here’s the good, which begins by praising MLK’s and Gandhi’s methods — before rejecting them as unworkable in present circumstances.

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Based on the Obama standard, or let’s call it the Obama Doctrine of Just War (ODJW) why shouldn’t next year’s Nobel peace prize winner be the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka?

Blaise on December 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM

The irony here is that he’s right, but for the wrong reasons.

He doesn’t believe in what he’s doing. He’s doing it because he knows he’ll get creamed politically (even more than he’s shaping up to) if he doesn’t.

Maybe the Nobel committe should be in the business of awarding people for things they haven’t done.

Good Lt on December 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

In other words, the Peace Prize is a silly, naive award.

That’s what they get for awarding it to someone who has not actually accomplished anything except to host a beer summit.

pedestrian on December 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

And of course, he had to bash America in his speech, too.

Enoxo on December 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

but do read the full speech

Certainly don’t listen to it, unless you like the messiah reverb and empty rhetoric.

Pardon me for being skeptical at the leader of our country who suddenly realizes the good of America when receiving an award that he has not earned nor deserves.

This speech is situational politics. Obama saying what he needs to for each venue and context.

conservative pilgrim on December 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Not only drinking the Obama Kool-Aid, AP’s sipping the Gingrich Delusion Juice.

Good grief.

klickink.wordpress.com on December 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Jimmy Carter: Nobel Prize winner
Al Gore: Nobel Prize winner

Obama is now in a league of extra ordinary Malaise.

portlandon on December 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM

“War, in one form or another, appeared with the first man”

Takes two to tango — in this case, Cain and Abel. Or was it Adam and Eve?

unclesmrgol on December 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Sometimes war is necessary, but we should always beat ourselves up over it, and feel guilty if we…accidentally win.

RBMN on December 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Speaking of war …

The immediate cause of the anger sweeping North Korea is a currency “reform” that amounts to the government stealing from its own deprived population. With its priorities on bankrolling the military and the production of missiles and nuclear weapons, while its people endure repression, cold and hunger, North Korea’s government has produced runaway inflation. On Dec. 1, North Korean authorities imposed a surprise plan to revalue the country’s currency, the won. The plan has entailed issuing new banknotes, lopping off two zeroes, so 1,000 won becomes 10. People were given just one week to swap old money for new, after which the old notes would become worthless. A limit was placed on the amount that could be officially exchanged, effectively confiscating all individual savings worth more than about $40 at informal exchange rates.

J_Crater on December 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Obama’s only point of American virtue:

Whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this: the United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms.

Yet, Obama still manages to slam our country. What’s the countdown to 2010 and 2012?

conservative pilgrim on December 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

“I face the world as it is.”

Except that “his world” had been bubble wrapped.

Sir Napsalot on December 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Over in CJ land, I simply stated that I hold no creedence to a word that Obama says, his word is worthless currency. Should be good for a banning. However, I still hold to that, this man will say anything that may help HIM, period. I have seen no evidence otherwise.

bbz123 on December 10, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Had this on another thread.

Thought I would share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnLqoRtUAVg

milwife88 on December 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

A speech that showed Obama’s lack of moral grounding.

A politician that attained the presidency by bashing his country’s war effort in Iraq, who, upon becoming president, is doing exactly the same thing in Afghanistan while still bashing the previous administration.

A man who is being awarded a peace prize, established by a man who invented a new and exciting way to kill many, many more soldiers than ever before, in spite of the fact that he is the Commander-in-chief of the greatest military force ever assembled, bar none, in the history of mankind. A military that he holds in contempt, wants to reduce and otherwise neuter. Furthermore, its a military that doesn’t especially like him, either.

The incongruity of watching this man utter words that he does not believe is enough to make me wonder if my wife had slipped me a mickey in my morning coffee.

turfmann on December 10, 2009 at 2:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnLqoRtUAVg

milwife88 on December 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Haha. That was funny.

conservative pilgrim on December 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

I guess the peace prize is now just as important as the prize found in a crackerjacks box.

grapeknutz on December 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Any feedback coming out of Oslo yet? Some of the faces in the audience looked a little grimaced, imo.

joedoe on December 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

He lost me at I.

JammieWearingFool on December 10, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Is anything this guy says worth listening to? A least 1 in 5 Dubya speeches were decent…

phreshone on December 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM

If war existed with the first man, maybe (as with jihad) war is just a struggle within ourselves?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM

He will probably donate the prize money to ACORN.

joedoe on December 10, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Oh you can be assured that the thought that ‘’sometimes a war is necessary’’ is being mulled over out here in flyoverville.

sannhet on December 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

True, and millions of us will be enthusiastically fighting “necessary wars” in 2010 and 2012.

TXUS on December 10, 2009 at 2:30 PM

I think that first man war had something to do with car insurance.

joedoe on December 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Am I the only one who looks at that screen cap and is left thinking he’s been watching footage of Benito Mussolini in preparation for his speeches?

CurtZHP on December 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Any feedback coming out of Oslo yet? Some of the faces in the audience looked a little grimaced, imo.

joedoe on December 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Did anyone fall asleep?

Knucklehead on December 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

when the occassion calls for lofty speach-making, BHO has few equals; I wish he would spend more time doing that and less time destroying the country

Willie on December 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

That Crowder video is hilarious. That boy’s got some guns on him. He’s ready for an appearance on Jersey Shore.

JammieWearingFool on December 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Geez Allah…want to spoon him much?

LtE126 on December 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

The disgust I feel for this man, is beyond what I can normally handle. It’s affecting me in a bad, bad way. I’m so sick of his hypocrisy, his snobbery, his condescending attitude, his lies, and his passing the buck in order to make himself look good.

I support the troops going to Afghanistan, but the disdain I feel for Obama now, for using it to justify his “peace” prize is just flat out gross. He justifies what he does, as good, proper, and right, then trounces on Bush for his decisions. When in fact, they supported them, til they could use them against Bush, for political gain.

Obamaneezer is a small, petty, immature, irresponsible, inspide little man.

capejasmine on December 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM

turfmann on December 10, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Hey, explosives have a lot more uses than serving as a deterrent to some other country coming in and taking all your stuff.

Count to 10 on December 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM

“I face the world as it is”

Sure you do, champ.

All screwed up by everyone who came before you. We know. You constantly remind us how bad things were before you got on the scene.

But it’s all different now that you are here to save us. You’re already setting the gears into motion to make everything right. One world, with “liberty”, and social justice for all.

Thank you Barack Hussein Obama.
mmm mmm mmm

red winger on December 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM

I cannot bring myself to click. I heard the sound bite excerpts earlier. Nice sentiments, now live up to them putz.

To those with a stronger stomach than I, did he have the nerve to quote Mill?

Fighton03 on December 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Obamaneezer is a small, petty, immature, irresponsible, inspide little man.

capejasmine on December 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM

He is also the poster boy for a true hypocrite. Not just someone who has high ideals and fails to live up to them. Obie criticizes others for doing something, yet praises himself for doing the same thing.

Fighton03 on December 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

But we do not have to think that human nature is perfect for us to still believe that the human condition can be perfected.

Dude that is a frightening statement. Who, pray tell, will do the “perfecting”, Mr. President?

No, you lunatic, the human condition is most certainly not ‘perfectable’.

I’m not even gonna say it.

russcote on December 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

We have entered the ‘Twilight Zone’.

Did I hear the President of the United States suggest that ‘War is Peace’?

afone2 on December 10, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Sometimes war is necessary. . .

So, will that be his stance when the muzzies have another go at flattening Israel?

CPT. Charles on December 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Hey, what about the part where he’s going to buy the world a Coke and we’ll sing in harmony?

Wyznowski on December 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Just some words for everyone. People have selective hearing and drown out what they don’t want to hear. Someone needs to tell the Won that no, all of us do not want the same things. Jihadis want to blow themselves up, me not at all.

Kissmygrits on December 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

We have entered the ‘Twilight Zone’.

Did I hear the President of the United States suggest that ‘War is Peace’?

afone2 on December 10, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

CurtZHP on December 10, 2009 at 2:54 PM

there is something irreducible that we all share.

we all basically want the same things;

human condition can be perfected.

Does anyone else hear the Beatles, “Love, love, love.”

shick on December 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

conservative pilgrim

How is that a slam?

Grow Fins on December 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

As the world grows smaller, you might think it would be easier for human beings to recognize how similar we are; to understand that we all basically want the same things; that we all hope for the chance to live out our lives with some measure of happiness and fulfillment for ourselves and our families…

Lots of people in many nations want these things. But some world leaders with millions of followers and deadly weapons seek eternal “happiness” with 72 virgins by killing infidels. How should civilized people deal with them?

Steve Z on December 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM

As the world grows smaller, you might think it would be easier for human beings to recognize how similar we are; to understand that we all basically want the same things; that we all hope for the chance to live out our lives with some measure of happiness and fulfillment for ourselves and our families…

Just because you look for common ground, doesn’t mean it’s there.

Fighton03 on December 10, 2009 at 3:12 PM

OT: Hot Air is not covering this.

Fistgate.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/ and http://biggovernment.com/ ……are

An on-line petition has been started calling for the removal of Kevin Jennings as “Safe Schools Czar” (if ever there was a misnomer, there it is!)

Please — sign it, tweet it, blog it and spread the word. This needs hundreds of thousands of signatures from American citizens who are fed up with the depravity and willful perversion being funded by our tax dollars in the guise of ‘education’.

http://www.grassrootsnation.com/events/jennings.aspx

ms on December 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

“I”

Don’t leave home without it.

drjohn on December 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Lots of people in many nations want these things. But some world leaders with millions of followers and deadly weapons seek eternal “happiness” with 72 virgins by killing infidels. How should civilized people deal with them?

Jihadis want to meet Allah. Marines are happy to arrange the meeting.

I liked the video clip. It was IMO unapologetic. “Whatever mistakes we have made…” we HAVE made military mistakes. Vietnam was a Charlie-Foxtrot from the get-go; just ask anyone who was there. Bay of Pigs was even worse, though on a much smaller scale. Rumsfeld’s “treat lightly” doctrine in Iraq cost thousands of lives. Remember that it was military folks who coined the terms FUBAR and SNAFU.

But Obama made the point – and made it loud and clear – that the peace and security of millions of people around the globe for much of the last century has been bought and paid for with the blood of America’s sons and daughters.

I’ll give props where due. YMMV.

skydaddy on December 10, 2009 at 3:17 PM

Yea, it may have been a good speech, it’s just that he’s made so many of them and they’re usually so much about him that they’re hard to watch anymore. I still think the right thing to do would have been for him to turn down the prize, but it’s too late for that. Maybe next year they’ll give it to someone who has actually achieved peace. This will go down in history as one of the most puzzling awards being given.

scalleywag on December 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Just testing. Carry on.

Diane on December 10, 2009 at 3:25 PM

I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people.

That’s good.

For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world.

An excellent point. Something the leftists in the audience probably had a hard time understanding.

A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler’s armies. Negotiations cannot convince Al Qaeda’s leaders to lay down their arms.

Again well stated. Does he believe it? I don’t care. He’s a man of the left and he said something a conservative would agree with.

To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism – it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.

Bravo.

I raise this point because in many countries there is a deep ambivalence about military action today, no matter the cause. At times, this is joined by a reflexive suspicion of America, the world’s sole military superpower.

Telling the Euroweenies what cowards they are. Again good point.

Yet the world must remember that it was not simply international institutions – not just treaties and declarations – that brought stability to a post-World War II world. Whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this: the United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms.

This is a good statement showing that America split it blood and spent its treasure to keep the world free and safe. Just as it is doing now. Wow, who’d expect Obama to say these things. However, raising the issue of America’s mistakes is stupid. Fighting evil in anyway is not a mistake. Again, he feels the need to apologize for America.

The service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform has promoted peace and prosperity from Germany to Korea, and enabled democracy to take hold in places like the Balkans.

Hmmm, no mention of Iraq? Why, because Bush did that? Very petty.

We have borne this burden not because we seek to impose our will. We have done so out of enlightened self-interest – because we seek a better future for our children and grandchildren, and we believe that their lives will be better if other peoples’ children and grandchildren can live in freedom and prosperity.

“Enlightened self-interest”? WTF? It would have been better to say that our Judeo-Christian values and morals demand we fight evil and help the oppressed. But that would of put the leftist’s brains on overload.

So yes, the instruments of war do have a role to play in preserving the peace. And yet this truth must coexist with another – that no matter how justified, war promises human tragedy. The soldier’s courage and sacrifice is full of glory, expressing devotion to country, to cause and to comrades in arms. But war itself is never glorious, and we must never trumpet it as such.

I see him struggling to justify his opposition to war, and yet, reconcile the fact that war does bring an end to evil. He’s just stating it so ineptly. And without conviction.

Overall, an average speech with some very good points. However, he’s still an undeserving, anti-Zionist, pig-headed socialist.

Andy in Agoura Hills on December 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I face the world as it is…

Wow. Talk about losing your base!

We know he’s deluding himself, and they don’t understand the words he’s using!

drunyan8315 on December 10, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Words.

No one doubts that Osama Obama’s speechwriters know how to crank out a decent product, even if they cater too much to his need to overuse the first person singular.

So we all know the Traitor-in-Chief can read.

But there remains a major disconnect between what comes out of his mouth and what he actually does.

It’s good enough to sway a few people, like Allahpundit and (I suppose) Ed, who can apparently be soothed by high-flying rhetoric.

For the rest of us, we see the Chicago Jesus’s actions, which have one more than one occasion put him in line for impeachment and — without the protections or government’s elected members give themselves — perhaps indictment.

Slime is slime, even if perfumed by rhetoric.

MrScribbler on December 10, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Does anyone else hear the Beatles, “Love, love, love.”

shick on December 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

Human condition can be perfected – it’s easy….all you need is love…..

DeweyWins on December 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Am I the only one who looks at that screen cap and is left thinking he’s been watching footage of Benito Mussolini in preparation for his speeches?

CurtZHP on December 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

That’s obama’s Il Duce pose.

Here’s the original.

Here is Obama after declaring elections canceled in 2012.

Generally, the more arrogant the man, the more he projects his chin out and his head back. That way, his nose is turned up at you.

keep the change on December 10, 2009 at 3:44 PM

But we do not have to think that human nature is perfect for us to still believe that the human condition can be perfected.

I just through up a little in my mouth. The hubris wrapped in double speak is just too much.

Fighton03 on December 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM

this guy is truely pathetic.

this “prize” is a joke anyway (see gore, see carter, see arafat), but if president pantywaste had ANY integrity, or class, he would have refused this and gave it to someone who actually have worked most of their life towards this goal

sidewinder22 on December 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM

My son’s gf reports that BO certainly did meet with the Norwegian king and the whole royal family. ???

Bob's Kid on December 10, 2009 at 4:06 PM

In other words, the Peace Prize is a silly, naive award.

pedestrian on December 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Did it really take this event before you came to this conclusion? It seemed obvious to me right around the time they gave it to Al Gore for… uh…. well, I guess they gave it to him for being silly and naive.

JohnGalt23 on December 10, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Human condition can be perfected – it’s easy….all you need is love…..

DeweyWins on December 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

And when that fails, we’ll substitute force and reeducation camps for love.

JohnGalt23 on December 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM

President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech, the condensed version.

Left Coast Right Mind on December 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Human condition can be perfected – it’s easy….all you need is love…..

DeweyWins on December 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM

You heard it too!

A satirical video could be made. Happy hippies swinging their heads back in forth singing it while Jihadists sing along slitting the hippies throats. Of course the hippies don’t even notice in their vegged state and slowly stop swaying there heads until they are…well…dead.

shick on December 10, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I’m glad Obama ended all of the wicked practices that weren’t being done in the previous administration. You know, things like violating the Geneva convention. Or torturing people.

It’s a good sign that Obama is willing to break with the policies of Bill Clinton, and embrace the human rights position of W.

hawksruleva on December 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM

this “prize” is a joke anyway (see gore, see carter, see arafat), but if president pantywaste had ANY integrity, or class, he would have refused this and gave it to someone who actually have worked most of their life towards this goal

sidewinder22 on December 10, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Like any American serviceman. They do more for the cause of peace on a daily basis than anyone else on earth.

hawksruleva on December 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Regardless of the text or delivery of the speech, there is know way it could be considered a good speech, IMHO.

Why?

Because the speech he should have given was a speech acknowledging that his is undeserving of this award and that the Nobel committee should take it back and award it to one of the more deserving candidates.

That would have been the right thing to do. The HONORABLE thing to do.

But we all know, our POTUS would never do the honorable thing because that would call for some personal sacrifice…

SPCOlympics on December 10, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Not only drinking the Obama Kool-Aid…

klickink.wordpress.com on December 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Nope, he’s making me drink mo’ whiskey!!!! And I don’t think I can drink enough to survive the next 3 yrs!

lovingmyUSA on December 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM

One American’s view of BO in Oslo. I’m impressed he got close enough to get the Obamas at the window!

Bob's Kid on December 10, 2009 at 4:55 PM

The PARADOX president

CynicalOptimist on December 10, 2009 at 5:48 PM

How is that a slam?

Grow Fins on December 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Don’t know if you’ll read this, been away since your comment.

There is always a caveat with Obama’s praise of our country, i.e., we’ve done a few good things even though we’ve made a lot of mistakes. Frankly, I’m surprised he said something positive about our country. Usually he only details our many, many mistakes, what he views as mistakes anyway.

conservative pilgrim on December 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

“For make no mistake. Evil does exist in the world.”

Uh, d-uh.
This is a very strange point for a (purported) world leader to make, unless he is addressing a room full of first graders.

LASue on December 10, 2009 at 6:12 PM

I can not listen to Obama, but I got the impression from the Panel on Special Report that Obama refrained from apologizing for the United States. Mostly. It is sad, when the expectations for the President are so low that people feel relieved that he did not completely disgrace his country in public.

Terrye on December 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM

“For make no mistake. Evil does exist in the world.”

Uh, d-uh.
This is a very strange point for a (purported) world leader to make, unless he is addressing a room full of first graders.

LASue on December 10, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Did you forget who was in that room? Maybe not first graders but some of them have a first grade mentality. I think they need to hear someone they invested their hope in like Obama say this to them, maybe one day they will get it. I think this is the best thing I have ever heard come out of Obama’s mouth.

Dollayo on December 10, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Possibilities:

1. He’s as bought and paid for as the last POTUS.

2. Somewhere along the line, his military advisers have managed to scare some reality into him.

3. All of the above.

Dark-Star on December 10, 2009 at 10:23 PM

“Sometimes war is necessary, but we should always beat ourselves up over it, and feel guilty if we…accidentally win.”
RBMN on December 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Yep! LOL! That sums up the speech to a T.
Also, never forget to go around apologizing and bending over for every tin-horn you meet. Oh, and remind everyone that America is not really a great country.

We are actually a bunch of yahoos clinging to religion and guns and we also don’t much like illegal-aliens streaming across our borders and stealing our jobs and committing crimes. For that, we should be ashamed.

Here is the speech he should have gave:

“Ladies and gentlemen, I am not George Bush. That is why you gave me this award, and that is all it is worth. Good night.”

shorebird on December 11, 2009 at 1:01 AM

“Maybe the Nobel committe should be in the business of awarding people for things they haven’t done.”

Good Lt on December 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

LOL! That’s exactly what they did…

shorebird on December 11, 2009 at 1:05 AM

He’s not the first Peace Prize winner to express such sentiments.

When all diplomatic efforts, dialogue and other means of pressure such as economic sanctions has failed to induce a tyrant to change his behaviour, the use of force is inevitable. Not doing so can have more tragic consequences with more loss of lives and dangers of wider aggression.

Dr. Jose Ramos-Horta, 1996 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate

JimC on December 11, 2009 at 1:59 AM

Read the speech;

Obama mentions Evil, and, later in the speech, Iran and North Korea.

Imagine if he had linked them together, into some sort of “Axis of Evil.”

Lefty heads exploding in 3,2,1…

massrighty on December 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM