Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on December 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
“The response to my op-ed by global warming alarmists has been interesting. Former Vice President Al Gore has called me a ‘denier’ and informs us that climate change is ‘a principle in physics. It’s like gravity. It exists.’
“Perhaps he’s right. Climate change is like gravity – a naturally occurring phenomenon that existed long before, and will exist long after, any governmental attempts to affect it.
“However, he’s wrong in calling me a ‘denier.’ As I noted in my op-ed above and in my original Facebook post on Climategate, I have never denied the existence of climate change. I just don’t think we can primarily blame man’s activities for the earth’s cyclical weather changes.
“Former Vice President Gore also claimed today that the scientific community has worked on this issue for 20 years, and therefore it is settled science. Well, the Climategate scandal involves the leading experts in this field, and if Climategate is proof of the larger method used over the past 20 years, then Vice President Gore seriously needs to consider that their findings are flawed, falsified, or inconclusive.
“Vice President Gore, the Climategate scandal exists. You might even say that it’s sort of like gravity: you simply can’t deny it.”
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“‘They’ve got us outnumbered,’ said Ian Plimer, an Australian geologist, who has interests in several mining operations. ‘But we’ve got them outgunned.’”
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Afraid the shark jumping on this issue has been the Warmists as demonstrated by their doubling down on stupid after being caught red handed fudging the data to get the results they desire.
Sharr on December 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Its a cycle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ice cores,don`t lie!!
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
CUDA
Metro on December 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM
I think if anyone doesn’t believe we need to move to being Green, they are simply bizarre.
They are so out of touch, they are like the people who think we never landed on the moon.
If Sarah is appealing to this bunch?
OK. but leave me behind, waving bye.
AnninCA on December 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM
katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Maybe. With Liberals you either have to support a Woman’s right to choose without reservation or else you want every woman pumping out a child a year. Same deal with Healthcare, either support Government run healthcare or you support slavery. And the Environment, support Crap and Tax or you want the poor Islanders to be drowned.
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
“Something definitely has to be done” “But I am on the fence”
Wow now there is conviction. I think something easy can be done. Adapt. It works every time, and is much less costly.
With all the worry about GW, why do 75 percent of the worlds population live in the warmest areas?
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
The fewer pieces of “helpful advice” Palin gets beforehand, the better she expresses herself. Reagan was a bit like that too. When they tried to pump him full of information, he couldn’t communicate it nearly as well as when he just used his own commonsense and his own words.
RBMN on December 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
“I think the government needs to do something…” Everything you need to know about LibTired right there.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM
She already has a lot of friends over at the New Majority. Lots of confused RINOs/Dems over there.
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM
What a 12 year old-brained, loopy, morbid, cornball nutjob Al Gore is, ~and in verse even more so.
“Neptune’s bones dissolve…”
That’s one bad “In the Wake of Poseidon” pastiche ~with a larding of Jim Morrison’s “Horse Latitudes” thrown on for a sopppy topping.
(Verse in support of any government policy always reminds me of Mao’s creepy “poetry” … odd, anachronistic musings abouf cranes and mountain rivers… when his prose dictates were killing millions of unnoticed humans.)
profitsbeard on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
But ice core readers can lie.
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Dave, I’m chasing around a 7 year old and trying to get him to bed, I will be getting back to you…
Seven Percent Solution on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, but I certainly liked her op-ed. More of this and she start to turn people like me.
thphilli on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
You want something to be done right now, well don’t you think we should have proof of what is exactly causing it?
We don’t know for sure. How can you solve something when you don’t know what’s making it happen for sure.
I’m all in favor of R&D in hydrogen fueled cars and other energies being tapped, but that’s again, just common sense.
When I go to a major city that I’m near by I can see the dirty air hanging over it. If we had cleaner cars and made it corporate friendly (not that hard) to make them and made them so people wanted to buy them, the air would clean up.
That’s something that Sarah Palin has been saying for as long as she’s been in nat’l attention.
We don’t know for sure what is causing the temps to rise, but we gotta fix it NOW. That’s not a very responsible way to go about it, honestly.
Making cars cleaner is a no-brainer, but will that prevent any gw from happening ever again? Doubtful.
You guys who criticize her response (it was right on), seem to be missing the political angle to the world is burning up as we SPEAK! crowd.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
At what cost? How much money are you willing to see spent to move us to Green technology? How many jobs are you willing to sacrifice?
There are real reasons rooted in physics, engineering, and economics why we never created an economy based on windmills and solar panels. The simple fact is that they are not as efficient or cost-effective as other energy sources. So you can’t switch w/out it costing you something.
How much are you willing to spend, and if the answer is “several trillion dollars”, don’t you think you need a stronger evidence than what has been provided for by scientists fudging their data? Doesn’t it worry you that for such a price tag, you are relying on climate models that have not been able to accurate predict the last ten years of temperature data?
PackerBronco on December 10, 2009 at 12:07 AM
canopfor on December 9, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I don’t think the Goracle is going to be jousting with the Cuda again any time soon; unless he rides side saddle.
Cuda’s crusaders can’t be stopped.
Geochelone on December 9, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Geochelone: Ohhhhhhh I do love that phrase,’Cudas Crusade’,
thats gonna get picked up by the msm,I salute
you!(I might steal it,haha):)
And yes,I believe that Al Gore does ride Side-
Saddle,
the evidence is in,and it non-debateable!!:)
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:07 AM
I think the ‘government’ needs to do something. I think they need to start putting some of these GD-GW con artists in jail.
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
I think I finally figured out what a green job is… Growing Marijuana!
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Heh.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
OT, but I was watching the news tonight and left it on when Letterman came on. The top ten was “signs the Nobel has gone to Obama’s head.”
Didn’t think I’d see that!
cs89 on December 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
See, in a lab environment, that’s called a question.
In a political environment, it’s called laughably fallacious.
Saltysam on December 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Actually it is simpler then that…like a monkey on the end of the organ grinders chain…the grinder plays the music and the liberal monkey dances.
They now have the facts that GW used falsified data, and kept peer review out…the actual emails and facts stating that…yet they will still dance to the music.
It is absolutely impossible to include 30 million people into health care and not have it cost more…yet they dance to the music.
It is absolutely impossible for the government to come under budget for any major proposal…yet they dance to the music.
It has been proven that many of their abortion “doctors” have taken viable lives, with forceps and let the baby die, a viable baby…yet they dance to the music.
ACORN, yet they dance…Unqualified cabinet members, yet they dance…a president who has spent more time worrying a fighting a radio talk show host then a war, yet they dance.
I am telling you it is simple…whatever they are told, they accept…they are the monkey at the end of the chain with their little greedy paws out…
right2bright on December 10, 2009 at 12:11 AM
What?
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Sarah just harpooned AlGore, and is measuring him for his final resting place over the Palin family mantelpiece.
Left Coast Right Mind on December 10, 2009 at 12:11 AM
I agree with you.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
As being almost 40 I recall as a child how the Earth was freezing and we were heading into an ice age because we ruined the planet.
Then in my 20′s it was global warming and how we were ruining the planet.
Now, it climate change but we are still ruining the planet.
Is there climate change yes. It it man made, I am not so sure and having scientists lie about data and destroy anyone who doesn’t follow them tells me they are full of crap.
By the way if Al Gore cares about the planet why wasn’t his lights out on the Lights out night?
Gracelynn on December 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
When I was a kid, we learned that there was an ice age once upon a time. What caused it to change from ice age to where we are now? This was 10s if not 100s of thousands of years ago. Clearly this wasn’t the work of the industrial revolution.
There is so much natural phenomena going on that’s so much more powerful than anything man can create, it staggers the mind. The changes in our weather patterns caused by volcanic eruptions and solar flares, have infinitely more impact than anything man does.
If we want to focus time and money on things that will really make a short term and long term difference, how about putting some money towards keeping the Asian carp at bay?
hoakie on December 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
canopfor on December 9, 2009 at 11:29 PM
LT is doing impressions this evening.
thomasaur on December 9, 2009 at 11:37 PM
thomasaur: Treacherous Liberals,him and Anne are
tag teaming off each comments,strange,
and yet,inexplicable perplexing the way
they skip all around their core beliefs!:)
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
You guys are putting along quite well without some Independent butting in.
I don’t think I’m a candidate for this type of thinking.
I read about abortion, climate, etc.
I’m really not in agreement with most of you.
I am far too liberal for this base.
That’s OK, btw, and don’t take that badly.
I’m far too conservative for progressive blogs.
I’m definitely a “tween.”
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
shhhh..LibTired is doing his best AnninCA parody. I’ve been cracking up for the last hour.
Missy on December 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
As being almost 40 I recall as a child how the Earth was freezing and we were heading into an ice age because we ruined the planet.
Then in my 20’s it was global warming and how we were ruining the planet.
Now, it climate change but we are still ruining the planet.
Is there climate change yes. It it man made, I am not so sure and having scientists lie about data and destroy anyone who doesn’t follow them tells me they are full of crap.
By the way if Al Gore cares about the planet why wasn’t his lights out on the Lights out night?
Gracelynn on December 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Okay, now That’s Funny!
hoakie on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Thanks, I thought you were scolding me for breaking out the bad initials.
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Classic…a viable question, and a strawman answer.
Question: If the earth is stated to have warmed, why doesn’t the data show that.
Answer: Are you aware of how laughably fallacious and unrelated to the discussion this is?
HAHAHAHAHAHA! You liberals crack me up…man up and say you were wrong, and take up the next “environmental” problem.
right2bright on December 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
The question is not Green or Not Green but what kind of green. Are we Green on the outside but red on the inside? And how far green? Some advocate going so far as to get rid of the Industrial Revolution.
Are we going to merely replace polluting systems with non polluting systems or are we going to reorder society to the point of Population controls, limits on the number of Children you can bring into this world and rationing of resources based on a person’s value to the collective.
If you seriously like the idea of reordering society (actually it would be ordering society as there was no ordering of American society in the first place) then this place really is not for you.
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Liam,would you please come over here and take your princess to another blog?
katy the mean old lady on December 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM
katy the mean old lady:LOL,priceless!!haha:)
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM
oooooohhhh.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Start with Michael Mann and Phil Jones.
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
That line just lept out at me. That alone means they KNEW it was bs. That. Alone.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Missy on December 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Heh. LT got me, I didn’t catch on until it was spelled out.
Pretty convincing, IMO.
cs89 on December 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
You do know what they call middle of the roaders…road kill…
You should at least be intellectually honest and take a stand one way or the other…
right2bright on December 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM
I love CO2, don’t you…?
Seven Percent Solution on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
You don’t get it…annin is a liberal, it won’t matter what you say, the facts mean nothing. Think Gore, now think annin, same mindset, same beliefs in Global Warming, abortion, economics, etc.
right2bright on December 9, 2009 at 11:59 PM
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This is very true.
ms on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
And apologies to LT.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
LOL! Good one.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I had to finally stop and just resort to cutting and pasting. I could feel my brain turning to mush.
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
You gotta hand it to her, she knows exactly how to recite the conservative dog whistles. I believe she used “environmental priesthood” as well.
crr6 on December 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM
And Dave S. completely pwns the quirky know-it-all who calls himself Seven Percent Solution. Dude, stay out of the deep end.
dakine on December 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM
dakine: Thats your Deception of your Perception!
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Ann, IO think everyone would agree it is a good thing to reduce the impact we leave on the earth. Recycle, reduce, reuse was really off to a good start – until the AGW fear mongers hijacked the ‘Green’ movement.
The 3 R’s have basically been put on hold. Recycling programs are no longer active in many communities. Participation in the 3 R’s flat lined because nobody really cared about them anymore.
The Polar bears were being wiped out (actually their numbers are growing) and the world was going to burst into flames if we didn’t start taxing the wealthy nations and giving that money to poor nations.
….and the entire AGW movement is political at this point. Science is being forced to fit what the warm mongers want it to say so they can perform their end game of wealth redistribution.
Do you think there is ANY mechanism in place to return unfairly taxed monies if it is proven beyond all doubt there is no man made warming going on? Of course not!
Stop thinking that the left has a monopoly on wanting to be ‘Green’ and the right wanting to pollute the earth to the point of destruction.
Those are the extremes the media want you to believe.
Sarah Palin saw first hand what happened after Exxon Valdez. If you think that didn’t affect her and Todd greatly you are severely misinformed.
Todd has had a great influence on Sarah, and Todd’s Yup’ik upbringing taught him GREAT respect for the earth and all it’s bounties. I really don’t think many politicians understand these issues better than Sarah.
Mr Purple on December 10, 2009 at 12:20 AM
“We” as a nation, don’t need to do jack. “You” as an individual can be as green as you want. Just don’t demand I conform to your ideas based on…? That’s the opposite of freedom.
uknowmorethanme on December 10, 2009 at 12:20 AM
No need, seriously.
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I had to finally stop and just resort to cutting and pasting. I could feel my brain turning to mush.
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Great post.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Tee hee. I wasn’t sure at first, but that just made it more awesome. Bravo!
Missy on December 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
I think that was back when Science was a respectable journal and wasn’t in the business of making things up and shutting out opinions that didn’t agree with theirs. I trust what they said in 1982 WAY before I would believe anything published in the last 10 years.
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM
She’s “liberal on climate change”.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
That statement alone is worth a thousand pictures.
Saltysam on December 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Good Gawd,*illiterate idiot trolls are here!!
*(just to be clear,I ripped that off a troll,who commented
a few weeks back,and had called H/A commenters,’illiterate
idiots,pay back is a b*tch).
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Current Amazon.com rankings:
“Our Choice,” by Al Gore. Released Nov 3rd: # 223
“Going Rogue,” by Sarah Palin. Released Nov 17th: # 1
Nuff said.
takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Scoreboard!
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Ice cores,don`t lie!!
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
But ice core readers can lie.
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Dasher: The science is in!! E-mails come to mind!:)
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:27 AM
You had me going for a couple of posts. I thought someone had hacked your account.Stellar job!
Do you think she’s really gone?
katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I thought just what you said. But this debate with Gore indicates to me a serious diversion.
Whatever.
I’m going to have to check out of this blog, too.
The emphasis on the Climategate really does show me that I don’t belong here.
I can’t believe this one.
I’ll check back in, of course.
But I’m not ever going to be “one of you.”
This tent isn’t big enough for me.
That’s way OK.
AnninCA on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Heh.
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Milton Friedman debating Phil Donahue, pertinent to the Green debate
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I don’t understand how Going Rogue is number one.
I only bought 5 copies.
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
The earth was cooling until the left went dingbat and started blowing all that hot air.
Really Right on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Well,Im otta here,nite everyone!!:)
You too,Hawkdriver,Sweet Dreams!!:)
canopfor on December 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Holy ****. You ever see the movie Candyman?
LibTired on December 10, 2009 at 12:29 AM
That’s just sad to me. I grew up learning science from authors and REAL scientists and not only did/do I respect them but I have tried to live my life like the scientific method. To see science itself become so compromised is really disturbing to me.
Most scientists are really good people, but some sell out.
It’s a damn shame.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM
AnninCa, I feel truly sorry for you and people like you. You have been lied to for so long by people in authority and you had no one to counteract those lies with the truth. I have heard that the government schools in CA were nothing more than indoctrination centers for liberal thought and you are an example of the abuse inflicted on the children of that once great state.
Sporty1946 on December 9, 2009 at 11:59 PM
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She is completely brainwashed. It is NOT reversable…. the level of brainwashing that has been done to her is complete.
The only way out for her is for her to somehow develop a moral base… but she has moral revelancy as her moral code. So it won’t happen.
She is a liberal pretending not to be.
And just so you know…. you are being laughed at by those that have done the brainwashing. Yes, they are laughing at you.
ms on December 10, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Just got back from the Palin book signing in Reno. What a great experience!
The people in line were great – so the 2 hours flew by. There was an older couple from Alaska just ahead me. He ran a fishing boat and had taken John McCain, Ted Stevens, Emperor Akahito’s son, Charlie Sheen and many others out fishing.
He also knew the Palin’s personally, so it was a real interesting dynamic being in that immediate group when we met Sarah and Todd.
They recognized the Old Salt, and greeted us all so warmly. Being from Minnesota I apologized for the idiot at the MOA. That elicited a hearty chuckle from Todd, and Sarah’s eyes lit up and thanked me for my concern.
Then as I left the signing area I realized Sarah’s parents were observing and they too were just as pleasant and approachable as could be.
I was already a big Palin supporter – but that event was like meeting family I hadn’t seen in a long time.
She’s the real deal, folks. Get used to it if you are still on the sidelines. Buy her book. It will give you a whole new understanding of what makes Sarah tick.
(makes a great Christmas gift too)
Mr Purple on December 10, 2009 at 12:31 AM
How’s that parasite book progressing – Going Rouge? Anyone heard?
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:32 AM
I leave you all with this. Sarah did have the solutions.
I wasn’t opposed to her solutions.
I think that her building up her base has pushed me away.
Ditto on pro-life.
Sarah and Huckabee are simply too conservative for me. I can’t see voting for anyone who has to bow down to this base.
But there’s nobody else in the GOP area who also appeals, so it’s probably a period where I’ll just avoid voting.
That’s odd. I’ve voted since the day I was eligible.
But I can’t see voting for anyone right now.
AnninCA on December 10, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Haven’t watched the clip yet, but it’s a safe bet that Phil gets Slapchopped in this one.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:32 AM
You are no different than liberals who say Rush tells you what to think.
I personally am offended by both sides claiming that, btw.
AnninCA on December 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Well, being a skeptic toward the AGW religion is hardly “fringe”. Palin isn’t “denying” anything. Along with scientists like Richard Lindzen, she’s saying we don’t really KNOW.
ddrintn on December 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Well Sh%t or get off the pot.
pugwriter on December 10, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I never went to any school on the West coast.
So you just need to revise your thinking.
AnninCA on December 10, 2009 at 12:35 AM
What’s your opinion of AGW scientists controlling the peer-review process that was exposed the Climategate?
Is it questions like that make you feel a little cramped in the tent?
Saltysam on December 10, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Currently # 1078 on Amazon.com
takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
That’s ok. I still feel sorry for all the lives the liberals have destroyed with their policies. They can laugh at me all they want, I won’t be the one burning for eternity for destroying others.
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I’m done with the big divides, personally.
Good Goadalmighty, Woman! I’ve had shorter good-byes from relatives that I wanted to go than you’re giving.
Please. Go. Don’t let the door hit your Californiarse as you go over to Kos or LGF. You’ll fit right in.
Just Go.
Tennman on December 10, 2009 at 12:37 AM
It’d help if AnninCa stated her actual position other than I dislike her position on such and such.
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:37 AM
So where did you go to school, Ann?
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM
2 hours – piker – Here in MN it was a 7 1/2 hour wait, but worth it. Had a great time chatting with others.
Dasher on December 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM
katy the mean old lady on December 10, 2009 at 12:42 AM
I’ve run into more then a few brainwashed people like Ann and it’s like talking into a speaker.
The restrictions on peer review alone make that all bs. Anyone half-familiar with the scientific process knows that.
But the left fosters ignorance.
Fwiw, for people who are not brainwashed and indoctrinated, Sarah got it exactly right. That was a great statement from her.
I’m not a Palinsta or whatever the phrase is, if I had thought she sounded bad, I woulda said.
B Man on December 10, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Nice, she zeroed that target, fire for effect. Logic rules, emotionalism drools.
ray on December 10, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Hmmmm….how about this? The U.N. could agree that Islam, which allows 4 wives and an untold # of children is contributing to global warming. All that unnecessary carbon output, plus their oil is a horrific contribution…
Connie on December 10, 2009 at 12:44 AM
It sounds like manbearpig is on his cycle. That may explain his mood lately.
Laura in Maryland on December 10, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Hopefully she is waiting for Gore’s rebuttal to bring out Gore’s statement that the core of the Earth is millions of degrees in temp. That’ll be like a knife in the gut.
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Ann, I’m not going to label you as anything – but how can you not be concerned over the most prominent scientists pushing global warming have fudged their data to make it fit their hypothesis?
I spent over a decade as a research assistant – and I am stunned by the blatant fudging of data, the discussing of said fudging, and the coordinated efforts among this group of scientists to fudge their data.
Climategate is without a doubt the biggest scientific scandal in the last 100 years. It is similar in nature to the ‘Lysenkoism’ that was practiced in Russia during the 1930′s-1960′s.
While the rest of the world was embracing Mendellian genetics and the gene as the unit of inheretence – Lysenko was promoting a theory of ‘acquired’ traits being passed down to offspring (ie you cut the tail off a mouse and the mouse will have tail-less offspring.
This set the Russians back decades, and it amplified the hunger problems in Russia during these trying years. Obviously crop yields will suffer if you are puruing a flawed theory.
This type of scientific shenanigans is completely unacceptable. The fact that these scientists research were some of the leading works (most notably Mann’s hockey stick) being cited by the warm mongers is very alarming.
The entire effort to analyze climate change has been flawed from the beginning. There really is no option but to start over, and ensure there is equal representation on both sides of the debate. All data needs to be released publicly for independent verification.
I am not even getting into the hijacking of the peer review process of the targeted removal of editors not on board with the AGW movement.
From start to finish this debate has been rigged. The debate needs to be ‘overcharged’ – er excuse me, ‘reset’ (a little translation error there.)
Mr Purple on December 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Ha! I got in line at 1:00 and got my books signed by 3:00. i had planned to go a just watch for a bit, but once I saw how fast the line was moving, I took a chance and bought 2 more books and got in line. I heard she signed 3000 books that day. I was nervous walking up the steps, but once she started talking to me, I felt like I was taking to a neighbor or someone on the street. She really connects. I just wish I had more than 10 seconds.
takeamericabackin10 on December 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Likewise, I hadn’t been very impressed with her in the past; but if she keeps up this level of fire and accuracy on the bogus liberal agenda, I might have to start actually liking her. That won’t be fun.
ray on December 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
My apologies if this has been asked and answered, but is there any particular reason why you believe that the deletion and falsification of scientific data (by the scientists who work with said data), that was used to promulgate the AGW theory and thus the current movement to severely curtail the use of fossil fuels (which would likely result in a catastrophic crippling of the economies of industrialized nations), is not important?
Left Coast Right Mind on December 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Don’t for the IED’s…that can’t be good for Gaia;)
Laura in Maryland on December 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Bizarre? NOBODY can win a “Bizarre” contest against the self-appointed, science-challenged “greenies”!!
Greenies said Alcohol is “green”. Result: Each gallon of alcohol takes more than a gallon of gasoline to produce, and cars using Ethanol get 33% LESS mileage!!! Sounds BROWN to me.
Greenies said twisty light bulbs are “green”. Result: None of them last as long as they were supposed to. Light output is too low and in the wrong spectrum for reading. Twisty light bulbs are hazardous and cost about $1300 in cleanup and disposal fees if they break!!! Sounds BROWN to me.
Then there are the proposed electric cars which they claim are “green”. Well, electricity has to be generated, and the most efficient way to generate it is with OIL and/or COAL and/or NUCLEAR energy plants. But the greenies won’t allow nuclear (no valid reason), and they want us to ignore the fact that for every electric car on the road, there is a smokestack (!!!) involved in generating the electricity. Efficiency of these cars is lower, because of the extra energy conversions and power line loss. And there is a huge battery disposal problem: about 1400 pounds of batteries have to be junked every 3 years!!! Sounds BROWN to me!!
CONCLUSION: “Greenies” are people with little or no scientific knowledge of the subjects they discuss (although they memorize and solemnly pronounce scientific-sounding words to make us think otherwise), no experience in the fields they discuss (they view practical knowledge as a bad thing and wear their ignorance proudly), and completely devoid of common sense. They have no ability to examine actual evidence, and are incapable of conducting a rational argument. Thus it is no surprise that all of their suggestions are silly and counterproductive.
“Green” is the new “BROWN”.
landlines on December 10, 2009 at 12:47 AM
ROFLMAO!!
Saltysam on December 10, 2009 at 12:51 AM
So where did you go to school, Ann?
Sporty1946 on December 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM
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She is a product of government funded education…nuf said.
ms on December 10, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Good analogy. Piltdown man would’ve worked just as well but kudos tying the AGW crowd to the disaster that was the Soviet Union.
Holger on December 10, 2009 at 12:51 AM
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