PPP: Obama 50, Bush 44
posted at 5:27 pm on December 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
The sample’s skewed — just 47 percent claim to have voted for Obama last year versus 45 percent for McCain — but even so. Only a svelte six-point lead for mankind’s savior over the Bushitler, scourge of the Enlightened? His final approval rating was 22 percent.
Dude, is this Cheney 2012 thing happening?
Perhaps the greatest measure of Obama’s declining support is that just 50% of voters now say they prefer having him as President to George W. Bush, with 44% saying they’d rather have his predecessor. Given the horrendous approval ratings Bush showed during his final term that’s somewhat of a surprise and an indication that voters are increasingly placing the blame on Obama for the country’s difficulties instead of giving him space because of the tough situation he inherited. The closeness in the Obama/Bush numbers also has implications for the 2010 elections. Using the Bush card may not be particularly effective for Democrats anymore, which is good news generally for Republicans and especially ones like Rob Portman who are running for office and have close ties to the former President.
Effective or not, they’ll be playing that card up to and during The One’s very last hour in office. Click the image to below to watch the latest example, captured just this afternoon. And do skim the crosstabs at PPP, which are fascinating. Head to head with The One, Bush pulls 25 percent of moderates, 39 percent of independents, 48 percent of men — two points better than Obama — and 53 percent of whites. Gee, I wonder if the 39/52 split on ObamaCare has anything to do with all that. Exit question per the Gibbs clip: Didn’t Obama whine just yesterday in his speech about the economy that people need to stop playing the blame game?
Update: A fair point raised in the comments: The numbers on Obama vs. McCain don’t necessarily mean the sample’s skewed. It could mean that people have so soured on The One that they don’t even want to admit having voted for him anymore.
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Racists.
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Primero! I’m guessing people never really disliked Bush (or at least the majority). They’re just disappointed like I am.
Apologetic California on December 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Wow he can’t even claim he inherited Bush’s poll numbers now.
elduende on December 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM
a poll that put a smile on my face, even if it deals with political non-events.
rob verdi on December 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Puck the PPP…Idiots
hawkman on December 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM
One word to describe this…………Vindication, baby.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Yes…because they don’t look at polls!
Hahahahahaha.
AUINSC on December 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I miss Bush.
KillerKane on December 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM
That doesn’t necessarily mean the sample’s skewed. In many very famous polls in the mid ’70s, it was found that almost as many people claimed to have voted for McGovern as for Nixon, and Humphrey beat Nixon by a fairly comfortable margin.
It may well be just another sign that the big “O” brand is tarnishing.
notropis on December 9, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I’d like to see “likely voters” polled on this.
takeamericabackin10 on December 9, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Perfect picture of Bush on the home page. Nice selection. I imagine W doing just that in his recliner when he sees this. He will be vindicated by history for the wars but not sure about the rest….
Youngs98 on December 9, 2009 at 5:34 PM
First reaction to the post upon seeing its picture, “I miss that man.” Having Obama in office makes missing Bush really easy though.
WashJeff on December 9, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Me too. I felt happy seeing his face back on the site. Notice how W. looks happy and at ease. Obamas pictures always look smug or pissed at someone.
ThePrez on December 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Maybe? Do you really think that could be it?
AUINSC on December 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM
It’s only the blame game when someone other than Obama does it.
mchristian on December 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM
How about this for a poll question,
If you were to cast a vote today for President of the United States, would you vote for:
A: Obama/Biden
or
B: McCain/Palin
My money would be on McCain/Palin
takeamericabackin10 on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
I miss having people in positions of power that LOVE their country.
lukespapa on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Darth Cheney is everywhere!
upinak on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Who conducted this poll? A six year old with a crayon?
World B. Free on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Gibbs: “We’re not blaming them, we’re just blaming them.”
GrayDog on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
The event of the century: Gibbs head explodes.
VoyskaPVO on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
After talking to some co-workers the other day, the problem isn’t that people disliked Bush. The problem is they bought the MSM’s lies and daily beratings. I was told in no uncertain terms that Bush got us into an endless war in Iraq with no plan and at least we now had a guy who thought about things first…maybe… (yes, maybe… they were very uncertain about that)
BUT, they didn’t blame Bush for the economy.
Skywise on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
This is what I call redistributive justice.
TXUS on December 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
We always think the grass on the other side of the fence is greener.
Turns out it was so green, it didn’t even know how to grow.
MadisonConservative on December 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Cheney/Cheney 2012: Death Has a Child.
lorien1973 on December 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
I’m waiting to hear Obama say he’s inherited Tiger Woods’ castoffs and can’t afford to pay them…
bradley11 on December 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM
What a “trollish” thing for you to say.
Joe Caps on December 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Can’t blame Bush for Obama’s lack of competence. Obama inherited his own gene pool, and adheres strictly to his inherited Marxist environment, assuming rule of the Feudal Order.
maverick muse on December 9, 2009 at 5:40 PM
As much as President Bush raised my blood pressure with the spending and the push for amnesty, he was always solid. I miss a White House message machine that was operative beyond a four to five hour window.
myrenovations on December 9, 2009 at 5:40 PM
MadisonConservative on December 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
lol
maverick muse on December 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Not everyone that voted for Obama likes to admit it anymore. Last year I got in a heated discussion with a guy that always voted republican but said was voting Obama because he really grew to dislike Bush. Talk to him now, and he pretends that conversation didn’t happen. Heck, maybe he did change his mind in the final weeks and voted McCain. All I know is that if he did vote for Obama, like I suspect based on the October convo, he sure as heck doesn’t want to admit it to me.
So maybe there’s a scientific reason for narrowing that margin a little bit.
stldave on December 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Is that even possible?
JetBoy on December 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Even when he is no longer President, George W Bush provides more leadership to the military of our country than any President since Eisenhower. The visit to the Ft Hood wounded days after the massacre, and without cameras or PR mention at all, no pomp or fuss, makes George W Bush more popular with us than anytime since the Thanksgiving in Baghdad. The idea of a US President entering a truly hostile war zone to feed the troops….. in secret…. is as much Leadership with a capital L as you will ever see in your lifetimes, people.
If you don’t miss him, then you just don’t understand Leadership.
Subsunk
Subsunk on December 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
It could mean in reality many of the voters never existed.
/
CWforFreedom on December 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Bush inherited Al Qaeda and a 9/11 plot that was in its end stages. He also inherited a dramatically depleted military and an intentionally weakened national security structure.
Odd how that never gets referenced.
Oh, and Obama, as part of majority party in the 2006-8 Congress had a hand in giving himself the situation he “inherited”
18-1 on December 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM
FIFY
PackerBronco on December 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Oh yes, the Sith will have their revenge!
Iblis on December 9, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Not in my neck of the woods. These folks in my neighborhood still wear their bumper stickers proudly and have those big pictures of Barry hanging on their living room walls.
Knucklehead on December 9, 2009 at 5:48 PM
As soon as the streams cross, Bush should hold a press conference…and blame Obama.
BuckeyeSam on December 9, 2009 at 5:48 PM
What was the cross-tab on “I voted for Obama but should have voted for McCain”?
Steve Z on December 9, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Gibby’s touting the first quarter of growth. He’d better hope that growth doesn’t disappear when the numbers are revised.
As for his point – such as it was – about McCain’s chief economist; so what? He can’t be wrong? During the campaign Team Obama sure didn’t think he could be right but, then again, he was disagreeing with them wasn’t he?
landshark on December 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM
On my morning walk, I noticed an Obama sticker with a corner pulled off. I figured that the owner of the car suffered from hesistation (kind of like a first time murderer–just can’t quite do it authoritatively) or a non-owner didn’t have time to finish the job. Either way, I thought it was a good sign of the tide turning.
BuckeyeSam on December 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM
I remember polls here in MN where more people claimed to have voted for Jesse than what his election numbers were. I think this happens all the time. BTW, the Jesse numbers where in the early part of his term.
IR-MN on December 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM
What laughable to me about the Gibbs clip is at the end where he starts blaming the Bush Administration for fiscal irresponsibility for not being able to “pay” for Medicare Advantage and the Iraq War and in the same breath essentially claims that Obama is wholly about fiscal responsibility because he will show that he can pay for everything.
Conservative in NOVA on December 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
So do I. Heck, I even miss Clinton and I voted against him twice.
hachiban on December 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Let’s not get crazy here… ;)
JetBoy on December 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Yeah, he did, but he didn’t complain about it. He just went to work to correct it. He’s a real man. Not a whiney child.
BetseyRoss on December 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Question for Gibbs:
Since whatever happens is affected by what happened over the last eight years…and thus BAD things are Bush’s fault… if good things happen than Bush should get credit for them as well, right?
Justrand on December 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
And he hasn’t even passed the second stimulus or his boondoggle health program yet!
scalleywag on December 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I miss Bush :-(
nickj116 on December 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
So, what’s the etiquette that they follow when they cross in front of the pictures? Do they do a Catholic-syle genuflection/curtsie, a Hitlerian Sieg-Heil, an Imperial Chinese Kowtow, or is it the full “5-times-a-day”, prostration?
dmh0667 on December 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Yea, and I miss Bush AND most of his administration, too.
scalleywag on December 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Tiger just called. He also misses Bush.
/
JammieWearingFool on December 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM
One good thing about Clinton is that nobody really pretended he was anything other than what he was; an habitual liar and serial adulterer who had no shame. I didn’t like him but at least there was no pretense.
landshark on December 9, 2009 at 6:09 PM
From your filthy, atheist mouth to God’s ears.
j/k
exlibris on December 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Damn, missed being the first to label this poll racist.
So, let me say that everyone who comments on this poll is racist!
blue13326 on December 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
So was the Gibbsters noggin poppin’ that spiral thingy in Skandyhoovia?
Bruno Strozek on December 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM
I would love to vote for a double-Cheney ticket.
Philly on December 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Nailed it!
silvernana on December 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Funny. Allah has his game face on.
Geochelone on December 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Forget asking if you miss Bush. Poll and see how many are starting to miss Carter after this mess of a year!
tims472 on December 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM
For what it is worth, I am angry, disappointed, incensed and weary over the actions of this administration to date. The statements made by the EPA, the actions by “whatitsname”, the outright bald faced lies, the condecension, divisiveness, pettiness, classlesness, cluelesness and the blatant disregard for the security and liberty of the American people, clearly draw a picture of something I’d rather not see.
For the first time in my entire life, I am afraid of my government.
Key West Reader on December 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM
test?
Key West Reader on December 9, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Based on my small sample, President Bush is still being blamed for the economy.
My investment advisor a few months ago quipped that “Bush never vetoed a single spending bill…never met one he didn’t like.” He suffered for that comment and is about to see a liquidation. (Don’t you love a half true talking point?)
A lady at a local service station was crediting Dear Leader for getting gas prices down from $5.
Meantime, even the right speakers on Fox fail to mention the weaknesses of the Porkulus and how The One clearly owns the present misery due to the back loading and corruption in the bill. Even if you grant that the bloody thing is working at all, The One’s promise of “shovel ready” projects is a mystery about now.
IlikedAUH2O on December 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Keep in mind, if the public knew as much about what is really going on as we do, the numbers would be MUCH worse for Obama. That is good news for us because many of those hidden things will eventually become better known by the general public.
mydh12 on December 9, 2009 at 6:28 PM
OH..that explains the bumper sticker residue I keep seeing while sitting in traffic.
faol on December 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Every day something dark emerges from this administration. From the outright lies, to the accusations and finger pointing, the corrupt favoring of Unions and cronies, to the funding/bailout of Hillary Cliniton, to the dithering in Afghanistan, to attacking legitimate news outlets and declaring war on them, to dividing this nation into colors and classes.
Ignoring the plight of the people of America, the administration throws grand parties and our leaders spit in our faces, call us names, deride and demean We the people who allow them the seats of power.
I am angry and I am weary. And for the first time in my life, I am afraid of my government.
Step down, Obama. You are unqualified, divisive, clueless, classless, a bully of sorts. We do not care for Chicago politics, strong armed tactics, attacks on our prior elected Administrations, pointing fingers of blame when you ran so hard and so long to earn the position that we entrusted you to take.
You, Obama, are a failure. We desire peace, prosperity, equality, and a future. You are clearly unable to deliver anything but pain, misfortune, generational theft, mistrust, malfeasance, dereliction of duty and you are the most devisive figure that our generation will ever know.
Step down. Deliver Americans from your fateful vision; your vision is not our vision.
Key West Reader on December 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I am going to invent a glue removal product and I will call it Obamalaise. Guaranteed to make you sick and tired of Obama, but it also comes in handy for removal of those pesky Obama Biden stickers and love bugs in May and October.
Key West Reader on December 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
If you did polls..I’ll bet that Bush wins on security and priorities. The One will still win on the economy since the media still shoves that deep in the Republican column.
Dems are getting a big pass on “present misery” and it is the right’s failure to nail the administration fast and hard on it. Heck, check the news, the blacks are turning on the White House gang over the economy. And they should!
IlikedAUH2O on December 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Bush gave us Roberts, Alito, tax cuts and security. Obama’s given us a pile of debt.
therightwinger on December 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Why won’t some one ask Gibbs or even Obama how many of the ‘failed stewardship’ policies Obama voted for???
Why won’t some one point out that the Democrats controlled congress for the last 2 years of Bush’s term??? Isn’t 2 years enough time driving the goddamn cart long enough to take at least some responsibility for this mess???
These people are incredible…..Gibbs sits there and flat out lies with that stupid smirk on his face…..
Yeah, it’s yer story there Lumpy, go ahead and tell it….
BigWyo on December 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
“It could mean that people have so soured on The One that they don’t even want to admit having voted for him anymore.”
“Could” mean?
Try finding any of those “Obama-Biden” bumper stickers. Last Summer they were all over the place. Today, you have to struggle to find just one.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
I would move. :)
I have noticed much shame and embarrassment among the Obama sheeple in my neck of the woods. They stopped beating their chests months ago and now speak in hushed tones and equivocate over the simplest decisions. They have so much self doubt in their own capacity for discernment; could be the meds.
Geochelone on December 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
I think many of us who disagreed with some of the things that Bush did still see him as a flawed, but decent man. On the other hand, we see Obama as a cunning politician in an unending campaign for power. Bush never made excuses, never tried to be coy, or try to please everybody. Obama is a phony, artificial poser with no class.
Star20 on December 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Any poll with Obama in it is skewed toward him.
Until he has a full year of abject failure, people are afraid of being labeled a racist for even hinting that they don’t think he is a god.
notagool on December 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Obama may have inherited a mess caused by decades of actions, but he has added to the mess drastically this past year, and wants to add more to the mess (i.e., ObamaCare, cap & trade, EPA end-arounds, disastrous foreign policy, economically devastating national debt, etc.). That is coming home to roost with Obama, where the blame belongs.
MeAlice on December 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
*shaking the head with a sigh*
cmsinaz on December 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I sure do.
angryed on December 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Who conducted this poll? A six year old with a crayon?
World B. Free on December 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
- – - -
ACORN probably, they are getting money from the feds!!!!!!!!!!!
bluegrass on December 9, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I still see Kerry-Edwards stickers around. Amazing how deep BDS runs, even now.
angryed on December 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM
The WH press corps needs to think more quickly on its feet. Gibbs offered too many opportunities for follow-up questions or refutations with facts to miss putting him on the defensive.
The Bush tax cuts generated more tax revenues, business growth, and jobs than does the fear and instability created by ObaMao’s spending policies and efforts to tax anything that stands still.
The Heritage Foundation bar graph demonstrated the contrast in the two presidents’ deficits deficits, real and projected. The graph included the costs of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The deficit was decreasing prior to the late fall meltdown.
That Gibbs can claim that the president is saying that “there is no longer a free lunch” should have generated a burst of laughter in that press room.
onlineanalyst on December 9, 2009 at 6:57 PM
“We blame Bush ….. and … er … have also adopted most of his policies on the economy, bank failures, waging war and gathering domestic intelligence.”
fogw on December 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
I am sick of the media, pollsters, politicians, and Obama himself using the, “tough situation he inherited,” excuse.
Obama was the smartest man in the room who made his bones telling us how much worse things were then was being reported — then the media gladly joined in.
He was the one who knew, not only how bad it was, but how to fix it all.
So stop it already — he was so smart he clearly knew how bad things were — and if they were worse then he stated then clearly was an unqualified blowhard idiot.
If not then he claimed he knew how to fix it — so fix it already and stop whining about it!
David
LifeTrek on December 9, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Breaking News: Ten injured in White House Press Room explosion. Helen Thomas in intensive care. TOTUS shaken, but unhurt. Search continues for Gibb’s head. Carbon dioxide exhalation suspected.
Press conference pending. Poll at Nine. Lies and Spins at Ten. Film at Eleven.
Yoop on December 9, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Since the poll appears to be accurate and reflect common sense, I say yes. Six year olds can count with integrity. When you suspect that the data is “homogenized”, blame Climatology, Inc.
ObjectionSustained on December 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM
So it’s just people like you that still has pride in their Obama vote? No wonder you thought the results were skewed.
highhopes on December 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Brain never found.
highhopes on December 9, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Kerry-Edwards must have used stronger glue. At least here in a very liberal district, I see very few people proclaiming their support for the filthy lying coward currently infesting the White House.
highhopes on December 9, 2009 at 7:14 PM
This poll is disastrous for Obama. The whole reason he got elected(aside from his race and teleprompter-reading abilities) is because he wasn’t Bush. And now nearly half the country would rather have Dubya back?!
And it’s not like it’s been THAT long since Bush was President. Less than a year. And as Allah mentioned, his poll numbers in those final days were dismal. This is further evidence that the American people have soured bigtime on Obama.
Doughboy on December 9, 2009 at 7:22 PM
That’s EXACTLY how I read those numbers. They’re COMPLETELY disgusted! LMAO
marklmail on December 9, 2009 at 7:28 PM
…Dairy Queen hardest hit.
Chuck Schick on December 9, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Re: bush polls
I never believed that 25% approval number. Not in the sense that the polls were lying. But in the sense that of the 75% who disagreed, 15-20% of those people hated the liberal aspects of his presidency. Things like the push for amnesty, the bailouts. But that 15-20% would still have preferred Bush to Obama. So the fact that 44% say they would want Bush today over Obama is really 25% + another 15-20%.
Makes perfect sense and nobody should be all that shocked.
angryed on December 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Your stimulus dollars at work: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmRlYTNmZGE1ZTk4NWNiZTkwMmZmODUwMzgxNDJlODI=
Justify that stupidity and waste of funds, Gibbs.
onlineanalyst on December 9, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Thread Winner
franksalterego on December 9, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Exactly.
LASue on December 9, 2009 at 7:46 PM
chickasaw42 on December 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Give Obama 6 more months and the gap will be 50/44 the other way.
Terrye on December 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
OK wise guy. I have been looking at Mr. Gibbs for some time.
His head exploding? Yea, right. I have been proactive on this issue.
If any of you can identify what part of the Press Secretary’s body is his head, please contact the guy below for a job. I tried to get the guy to work on Mr. Chris Matthews but got no acknowledgement.
http://www.soils.umn.edu/academics/classes/soil2125/doc/s9worms.htm
IlikedAUH2O on December 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
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