Report: Senate Democrats drop the public option

posted at 9:23 pm on December 8, 2009 by Allahpundit

In favor of what, you ask? Good question. They’re not saying until CBO scores the plan, but it’s safe to assume that the Medicare “compromise” will figure into it. The details aren’t important right now anyway. Just know that, in the span of about five hours, Reid and company have set up not one but two separate death struggles with their pals in the House.

A thumbnail sketch from Politico:

The broad outlines of the deal had been discussed for days and would include creating a new national health plan administered by the federal government that would offer insurance policies offered by private companies…

By Tuesday evening, the group was no longer considering opening Medicaid to people with incomes 150 percent above the poverty line. It faded as a realistic option amid concerns among moderates and many governors that it would put too much of a burden on state governments, which pick up a portion of the coverage costs.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), who is still being wooed by Democrats, expressed strong skepticism toward another key element, the expansion of Medicare to people between 55 and 64. She said she was concerned the bill would rely too much on government to fill gaps in insurance coverage that the private sector should handle…

The Medicaid expansion was viewed as a trade-off for liberals who were disappointed that the public option was falling out of the bill. An expansion of Medicare is still under serious consideration because it’s easier to manage the costs by controlling who can “buy in” to the program.

House liberals Jerrold Nadler and Jan Schakowsky promised lefty Greg Sargent earlier today that they wouldn’t roll over for the Senate and were skeptical of the compromise plans coming out of there. Quoth Nadler: “The House is not going to be dictated to.” Exit question one: Which side caves? Exit question two: On a scale of one to 10, how fiery will nutroots outrage at the Senate’s betrayal be tomorrow?

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Are you flipping kidding me?

They want to expand Medicare to include people who are 55+? So people who are working will get thrown out of their company plans and get stuck on the government’s plan (and taxpayers have to fund this horrible coverage)?
I can’t wait to tell my liberal friends about this.

Buy Danish on December 8, 2009 at 11:44 PM

This sucks. It make me mad. They want to expand Medicare what a bunch of @$$holes. I mean the only ones that will need to buy insurance are the 28-54 year olds the rest will be covered by their parents or the government. Then they’ll keep Medicaid and for what. This is the biggest piece of shit bill. Why don’t the just pass it now and stop the agony. This just sucks.

Brat4life on December 8, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Ping Pong!

Mayhem on December 9, 2009 at 12:17 AM

AARP and United Healthcare really really want those Part D people.

Connie on December 9, 2009 at 12:29 AM

Chaos on Capitol Hill. Where’s Zero-bama? Present!

Is this where the popcorn line comes in?

Mallard T. Drake on December 9, 2009 at 12:54 AM

Can someone help me out with understanding this. So now what they want is two fold.

1) Individual and employer mandates (which will most likely get tossed) and rules against barring coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

2) Expanding medicare to 55+

So everyones premiums are going to go way up. From what I understand NY and NJ have the pre-existing condition laws and it has driven premiums way up.

Expanding Medicare will result everyone over 55 is getting tossed onto Medicare where many physicians are already refusing care.

I’m trying to think like a liberal for a moment, but I’m failing to understand how any of this is desirable. What are the odds the will pass a bill they know is bad and they know will deservedly hurt them just to give Obama a victory for his state of the union.

I see this train getting derailed.

jhffmn on December 9, 2009 at 1:35 AM

Listen and tell everyone you know, this is a scam. If this bill makes it to conference they can reinsert the public option, and it won’t be subject to a filibuster. They have 50 votes, they’ll never get 60 with the public option.
If the senate is allowed to pass a bill without a public option, the only hurdle is the abortion issue in the house, which I suspect will dry up as a problem issue mighty quick when the only thing standing between us and government health care is the liberals.
Public option or no, so long as there is a house bill with the public option nothing can be allowed to pass the senate.

galenrox on December 9, 2009 at 2:22 AM

Goody.

The Dems appear to have concocted something that no one will love, the majority will dislike…..and that will affect 100% of the population in one form or another. And they own it lock, stock, and barrel.

Political stupidity by thy name……

JoeinTX on December 9, 2009 at 6:09 AM

Don’t believe anything Harry says or does. There can be no compromise and the public option isn’t dead until somebody drives a stake completely through its heart. Be vigilant . . . Harry will lie, cheat, obfuscate and connive until he finds an opening for that socialist healthcare manifesto. The majority of this government simply can’t be trusted.

rplat on December 9, 2009 at 6:15 AM

It’s a ploy. They need this to get 60 votes, so they will drop the public option. Once it passes with 60 votes and goes to conference, they will insert the public option back and once it comes back for a final vote, they only need 50 votes (Biden will cast the tie breaker), which they have in support of the public option.

This is all planned out folks. Nothing can be done about it now. We can huff and puff all we want, but the only thing that will change is your blood pressure.

tatersalad on December 9, 2009 at 6:58 AM

Which side caves? Exit question two: On a scale of one to 10, how fiery will nutroots outrage at the Senate’s betrayal be tomorrow?

Which side caves?

Reid. He’s a beta male. Plus Senate is a weakling. .

On a scale of one to 10, how fiery will nutroots outrage at the Senate’s betrayal be tomorrow?

10. But they are always fiery at Level 10, aren’t they?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheAlamos on December 9, 2009 at 7:00 AM

What are the odds the will pass a bill they know is bad and they know will deservedly hurt them just to give Obama a victory for his state of the union.

I see this train getting derailed.
jhffmn on December 9, 2009 at 1:35 AM

It’s not just for Obama. This is part of then Progressives 100 year plan. Some congressmen will martyr themselves and lose an election “for the greater good”, but once this monster is in place there will be a permanent Democrat majority in place and the horrible economic conditions we see today will look like the good old days.

Anyone who is 55+ should be furious right now. They won’t be able to find a doctor, their care is going to be rationed.

Buy Danish on December 9, 2009 at 7:06 AM

To the President and the Members of Congress:

It is now official you are corrupt morons:

* The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke.

* Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.

* Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke.

* War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor” and they only want more.

* Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are broke.

* Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is broke.

* The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.

You have FAILED in every “government service” you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.

Please present one shred of evidence to support your desire to successfully manage the entire nation’s healthcare.

Alden Pyle on December 9, 2009 at 7:36 AM

In the end they will make a deal that everyone must purchase private insurance. Sheeple will applaud that their is no public option and no abortion legislation. They will call it bipartisan and the pricks that get campaign donations from Big Insurance and Big Pharmaand Big Law will have done exactly what was originally planned.

Watch how they will manipulate this. Everything is going as planned.

Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and Big Law wins. We lose.

Socmodfiscon on December 9, 2009 at 8:16 AM

THE PUBLIC OPTION IS DEAD!!

LONG LIVE THE PUBLIC OPTION!!

angryed on December 9, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Big Pharma, Big Insurance, and Big Law wins. We lose.

Socmodfiscon on December 9, 2009 at 8:16 AM

Would you be happier with little pharma, little insurance and little law? By that I am asking is the pharma/insurance/law what bugs you or the Big that bugs you?

I ask this of libs all the time when they rant about Big Oil. If it were little oil, would you be OK with it? It’s fun to watch their little brains squirm with that one.

angryed on December 9, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Alden Pyle on December 9, 2009 at 7:36 AM

+100

Vashta.Nerada on December 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

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