Quotes of the day

posted at 10:35 pm on December 8, 2009 by Allahpundit

“So what is all this going to cost?

“The short answer is trillions of dollars over the next few decades. It is a significant sum but a relatively small fraction of the world’s total economic output. In energy infrastructure alone, the transformational ambitions that delegates to the United Nations climate change conference are expected to set in the coming days will cost more than $10 trillion in additional investment from 2010 to 2030, according to a new estimate from the International Energy Agency.

“As scary as that number sounds, the agency said that the costs would ramp up relatively slowly and be largely offset by economic benefits in new jobs, improved lives, more secure energy supplies and a reduced danger of climate catastrophe. Most of the investment will come from private rather than public funds, the agency contends.

“‘People often ask about the costs,’ said Kevin Parker, the global head of Deutsche Bank Asset Management, who tracks climate policy for the bank. ‘But the figures people tend to cite don’t take into account conservation and efficiency measures that are easily available. And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race. Period.’”

***
“‘We are collectively irrational, in the sense that we should really care about the long-term well-being of the planet but when we get up in the morning it’s very hard to motivate ourselves,’ said Dan Ariely, a professor of behavioral economics at Duke University, who gave a keynote speech last month at a Washington conference devoted to understanding why people don’t do more to save energy.

“Psychologists studying the issue say that the now-familiar warnings about climate change kick at emotional dead spots in all human brains — but especially in American brains. Researchers have only theories to explain why people in the United States have done less than those in such places as Europe and Japan. Some think Americans are culturally leery of programs the government might develop to target climate change, trusting instead that the free market will solve major problems.

“One U.S. researcher thought television is to blame: All those TV ads have made Americans more focused on their own wants, she theorized, and less likely to care about the long-term good.”

***
“The decade of 2000 to 2009 appears to be the warmest one in the modern record, the World Meteorological Organization reported in a new analysis on Tuesday…

“A negotiator for a large bloc of developing countries meanwhile challenged rich countries to make far deeper cuts in emissions than they have proposed so far. The negotiator, Lumumba Stanislaus Di-Aping of Sudan, said President Obama should be willing to spend far more to limit climate dangers in the world’s most vulnerable regions.

“‘We have to ask him, when he provided trillions of dollars to save Wall Street, are the children of the world not deserving help to save their lives?‘ he said.”

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Cloward-Piven to the Nth power……

Janos Hunyadi on December 8, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Overwhelm the system.

Knucklehead on December 8, 2009 at 10:40 PM

These people do not care about the truth. They are power hungry and prepared to line their pockets with our money.

From my cold dead hands you pigs!

daesleeper on December 8, 2009 at 10:40 PM

“So what is all this going to cost?

Our way of life…plus…………………….

SHARPTOOTH on December 8, 2009 at 10:40 PM

I decided to save the planet last month and look what happened…. the emails were uncovered showing the fake science to be fake. Mission accomplished. Planet saved with just a little hacking. Those are the guys that should get a medal. Those hackers saved the planet.

CC

CapedConservative on December 8, 2009 at 10:41 PM

“‘We have to ask him, when he provided trillions of dollars to save Wall Street, are the children of the world not deserving help to save their lives?‘ he said.”

Wall Street wasn’t deserving, and neither are you.

uknowmorethanme on December 8, 2009 at 10:41 PM

The children of the world seem fine to me — I saw quite a few of them on the streets today.

unclesmrgol on December 8, 2009 at 10:41 PM

They just need to stall until they can come up with another reason to implement their ideas.

29Victor on December 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM

“As scary as that number sounds, the agency said that the costs would ramp up relatively slowly and be largely offset by economic benefits in new jobs, improved lives, more secure energy supplies and a reduced danger of climate catastrophe. Most of the investment will come from private rather than public funds, the agency contends.

Utopia

uknowmorethanme on December 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM

I think that we here at HA need to get ahead of the water vapor credits curve. I’m selling water vapor credits at my “ID ten T” website. You guys in? We could make a fortune. I mean if people are gullible enough to by carbon credits they’ll fall for anything.

Mojave Mark on December 8, 2009 at 10:43 PM

The children of the world seem fine to me — I saw quite a few of them on the streets today.

unclesmrgol on December 8, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Those children need to die. This is about the uneducated children of the world watching the dictators that prevent them from being educated cashing checks signed by the US in order to keep them uneducated.

uknowmorethanme on December 8, 2009 at 10:44 PM

THE SKY IS FALLING…….

THE SUN IS HOT……

THE OCEANS WILL EVAPORATE….

THE FORESTS WILL SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST

AND,I’M sure Al Gore has a film about this
already to go,

the cost,the biggest scam the world has ever seen,
and is another Socialist Grand Experiment,being tried,
once again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(Snark).

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM

I’ve seen a number of angry commenters today.
How about a little something to lighten the mood.

Micheal Bay’s new commercial

agmartin on December 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Kevin Parker, the global head of Deutsche Bank Asset Management, who tracks climate policy for the bank. ‘But the figures people tend to cite don’t take into account conservation and efficiency measures that are easily available. And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race.

I’m going to ruin everyone’s night by pointing out that a moron who thinks a 1 degree rise in temperatures will wipe out all humans most likely makes more money than any of you.

BadgerHawk on December 8, 2009 at 10:46 PM

I’m going to ruin everyone’s night by pointing out that a moron who thinks a 1 degree rise in temperatures will wipe out all humans most likely makes more money than any of you all of us combined.

BadgerHawk on December 8, 2009 at 10:46 PM

uknowmorethanme on December 8, 2009 at 10:47 PM

“‘We have to ask him, when he provided trillions of dollars to save Wall Street, are the children of the world not deserving help to save their lives?‘ he said.”
===========================================================-
Ah,they finally realized,they haven’t used,

But..But…But,I mean…for gawd sakes man,will you think
of the CHILDREN FOR ONCE,in your life!!!!!!!(Snark).

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM

“The decade of 2000 to 2009 appears to be the warmest one in the modern record, the World Meteorological Organization reported in a new analysis on Tuesday…

Even warmer than those decades where farmers were growing stuff in Greenland?

BadgerHawk on December 8, 2009 at 10:48 PM

I really love those pictures of the ‘smoke stacks’. I was watching a commercial the other day and it was a montage of evil corporations spewing evil poison into the air.

I guess it was a good bet to go with C02 and not steam as the devil’s gas.

BigWyo on December 8, 2009 at 10:50 PM

I’ve seen a number of angry commenters today.
How about a little something to lighten the mood.

Micheal Bay’s new commercial

agmartin on December 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM

agmartin: SWEET!!!Um,maybe if the Babes,can be sold that,
its gonna get warmer,I for when,would back the
“Bring Back the Micro-Mini-Skirts Initiative
Campaign”!! (I kid tho):)

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM

The NY Slimes, the WaPoo and George Moonbat? I understand none of these have axes to grind, and are simply saying these things so we will do what’s best for “the planet.”

Never mind that industries will be bankrupted, people will die, Al Bore and his cronies will get richer (without producing anything worthwhile) and totalitarians will grab even more power.

And never mind that chances are the climate will go right on changing, long after the eco-savages have decimated the human population and reduced it to bare subsistence.

MrScribbler on December 8, 2009 at 10:56 PM

From,IOwnTheWorld!

View at your own peril!

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=12419

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I’ve seen a number of angry commenters today. How about a little something to lighten the mood. Micheal Bay’s new commercial agmartin on December 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Dude, have you sent this to Tiger Woods?

Mojave Mark on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM

We cannot possibly, as a human race, be this stupid so as to commit suicide.

Can we?

Every layer of the premise gets more and more absurd — and EVERY ONE of them has to be correct to even consider ANY action.

And yet, here we are — on the brink of destroying our own economy and forfeiting any semblance of freedom we had left.

jjraines on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM

The Sun calls bullshlt.

fogw on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM

And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race. Period.’”

Knocks head against wall, shouts NO ITS NOT!

I’d wager all these same people who cling to AGW hold a strong conviction in Darwin and yet they can’t grasp that mankind, by its very nature has adapted to ever changing and hostile environments, often going willingly into wastelands to live and breed. THIS SETS US APART FROM THE BEASTS!

Why is it they seem to imply Earth must exist in some sort or solid-state never changing?

Sharr on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM

It’s almost like, now that they’ve been busted with Climategate, they’re doubling down on the lies and bullshyte.

Shameless bastages.

F. ‘em.

RedNewEnglander on December 8, 2009 at 11:03 PM

“Lumumba Stanislaus Di-Aping of Sudan, said President Obama should be willing to spend far more to limit climate dangers in the world’s most vulnerable regions.”

What part of “We’re broke and getting broker” do these people not understand?

JavelinaBomb on December 8, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Dear asteroid(s),

Please hurry and put us out of our misery.

Sincerely,
SouthernGent

SouthernGent on December 8, 2009 at 11:04 PM

…Lumumba Stanislaus Di-Aping of Sudan, said President Obama should be willing to spend far more to limit climate dangers in the world’s most vulnerable regions….

Hey Lumumba, why don’t you worry about the mass killings going on in your country first.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:05 PM

44…face…click.

russcote on December 8, 2009 at 11:05 PM

The Sun calls bullshlt.

fogw on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM

15 days without no sun spots. A common reoccurence the last two years.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:06 PM

This “carbon credit offset” boondoggle ranks right up there with the “Pet Rock” in scams that target ignorant suckers.

BTW, 20,000 years ago (a mere blink of an eye in geologic terms) Yellowstone Park, over 3,000 square miles, was covered by a four thousand foot thick sheet of ice.

I was in Yellowstone just this September. The 4000 foot thick sheet of ice was GONE!?!?!

So tell me GENIUS ….. WHERE DID IT GO?

And WHEN????

I think I’ll go out and gas-up my classic 60s V8 muscle car with a tank full of hi-test, hit the road and burn up some 97 octane at 12 mpg and leave a Big-Foot sized carbon footprint for the hell of it JUST ‘CUZ I CAN.

bannedbyhuffpo on December 8, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I refuse to accept this nonsense. So, because of American exceptionalism, we have to support slackers/deadbeats, and more importantly, non-Americans. I have no problem with charity. As long as it’s on my terms, not the governments.

Sam_I_Am on December 8, 2009 at 11:06 PM

I don’t know, there could be a fight over the loot. The third worlders want the UN to be the purse holder, and the rest of the world knows what the UN holding the purse strings will get you – Oil for Food anyone. So the World Bank will dole out the carbon bucks, and it’s not as much as they thought they could Con the First World out of…..it’s like pity carbon ameros:) But you know when you want your graft fast and in a hurry maybe you throw a fit, and bring the the whole sham down on everyone?

Just spit ballin. There is no honor among thieves but there is lots of greed.

Dr Evil on December 8, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Norwegian on December 8, 2009 at 10:57 PM

I wonder if those who have been turning up their nose at her messages from facebook will be suitably impressed that The Washington Post published her article. Possibly another step away from irrelevancy?

Cindy Munford on December 8, 2009 at 11:08 PM

The Palin WaPo piece is very nice, except she wrongly talks about “hiding the decline” as referring to temperatures.

The decline they were hiding was in the tree ring proxies after 1960. What made this so damaging was that the hockey stick depended on tree rings.

So if the proxy diverges from temperature now..how can we tell what was happening before thermometers were used (hint: we can’t).

r keller on December 8, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Pay your taxes in monopoly money~they want to raise taxes because of an effin’ lie, we can play that game too.

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

O/T,here finally is the 9/12 picture of the Tea Party Protest!

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/capitol-view-lo-res.jpg

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

And dammit, STOP BREATHING~YOU’RE KILLING ME!

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

r keller on December 8, 2009 at 11:10 PM

That’s why McCotter said,

“So I think that what we have to do is go back in history, and realize, the earth has been here for a long time. That to take selective periods of time, and say that man made global warming is occurring is absolutely wrong. We have to look at the different periods in history. We have to look at the different effects. Then we have to have direct empirical data to Correlate between man’s activity, and the effects on the planet. And that has yet to be proven, and I highly doubt it is going to be anytime soon”.

Dr Evil on December 8, 2009 at 11:14 PM

And dammit, STOP BREATHING~YOU’RE KILLING ME!

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

HornetSting: Here ya go,Stingette!:)

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=12413

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:15 PM

BadgerHawk on December 8, 2009 at 10:46 PM

+1

I agree, but maybe I’m just overreacting to the fact that the guy works at Deutsche Bank Asset Management.

Probably mops the floor or something.

Mark Boabaca on December 8, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Pay your taxes in monopoly money~they want to raise taxes because of an effin’ lie, we can play that game too.

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

HornetSting: Two can tango this dance,eh!:)

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:17 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Dude! You owe me a seeing eye dog. Send it to my FB account pronto.

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:19 PM

And dammit, STOP BREATHING~YOU’RE KILLING ME!

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM

As you wi…

*thud*

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:20 PM

BadgerHawk on December 8, 2009 at 10:46 PM

I agree, but maybe I’m just overreacting to the fact that the guy works at Deutsche Bank Asset Management.

Probably mops the floor or something.

Mark Boabaca on December 8, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I think the writer of the article thought Kevin Parker said he was at “Deutsche Bank Asset Management” when he really said he was a “Deutsche Bag A*s Man.” Simple misunderstanding.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:20 PM

The Sun calls bullshlt.

fogw on December 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM
15 days without no sun spots. A common reoccurence the last two years.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:06 PM

WashJeff: SOHO has had a lot of stuff blowing off lately!!

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/
—————————–

From last night!
—————–

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2009/eit304/20091208/20091208_0719_eit304_512.jpg

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Of course.

Thanks for clarifying!

Mark Boabaca on December 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Dear asteroid(s),

Please hurry and put us out of our misery.

Sincerely,
SouthernGent

SouthernGent on December 8, 2009 at 11:04 PM

.
Heh!

ronsfi on December 8, 2009 at 11:24 PM

What if all the carbon emissions are what are keeping us out of deep climate decline – a mini ice age?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/dec/07/climate-change-denial-industry

Dr Evil on December 8, 2009 at 11:28 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Solarcycle24.com is a good clean site to check in on the sun. I like to check in on some guy named David Hathaway who is constantly revising his solar cycle prediction. I think he has shifted his prediction over one year for the start of solar cycle 24. I.e., he has no clue what the sun is up to. Whatever the sun is doing, it is making it pretty cold on average Mr. Bigglesworth.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Dude! You owe me a seeing eye dog. Send it to my FB account pronto.

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Laura in Maryland: D*mmit,I thought I posted a warning,crap
let me make it up to you,

try these two out!!hehe:)

http://diversitylane.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/diversitylane_paramedics_for-blog.jpg

And;

http://diversitylane.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/diversitylane_warming_for-blog1.jpg

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Solarcycle24.com is a good clean site to check in on the sun. I like to check in on some guy named David Hathaway who is constantly revising his solar cycle prediction. I think he has shifted his prediction over one year for the start of solar cycle 24. I.e., he has no clue what the sun is up to. Whatever the sun is doing, it is making it pretty cold on average Mr. Bigglesworth.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM

WashJeff: Thank-yo so much for ther link,I`ll check it out,
last night,it blew off about a half inch,and a few
hours later,refreshed,and saw that,like WOW!!:)

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:32 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM

ROFL!

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM

How much would it cost for us to pay for these loons to have therapy? It might be cheaper than their carbon emissions schemes.

Buy Danish on December 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:15 PM

The new low: Cannibal Polar Bears~
My question: Why can’t hollyweird go cannibal?

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:34 PM

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM
As you wi…

*thud*

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Quick~this woman needs whiskey~STAT!

HornetSting on December 8, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I think the writer of the article thought Kevin Parker said he was at “Deutsche Bank Asset Management” when he really said he was a “Deutsche Bag A*s Man.” Simple misunderstanding.

WashJeff on December 8, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Now that’s funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Sam_I_Am on December 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM

When do we start the petition to get our country out of the U.N….?

ujorge on December 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM

The machine is running at full throttle.

CWforFreedom on December 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM
ROFL!

Laura in Maryland on December 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Laura in Maryland: Tee Hee,heres the websites Laura!:)

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/

And,

http://diversitylane.wordpress.com/

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM

“So what is all this going to cost?”

How about a majority of Americans saying “Fu%k You!” to a world filled with corrupt bureaucrats and dictators that refuse to bring freedom and prosperity into their own countries and clean their own houses…

How about a majority of Americans saying “Fu%k You!” to our own corrupt political elites and bureaucrats that won’t let us drill for our own oil, shale, coal, and natural gas to where we have cheap, clean, and abundant energy to sell to the rest of the world and turn our corn back into food to feed them as well…

How about a majority of Americans saying “Fu%k You!” and giving a bill to the majority of the world for defending their sorry asses when they didn’t have the b%lls to stand up for themselves…

How about a majority of Americans saying “Fu%k You!” and finally sealing our borders and kicking out all of the illegal aliens or anyone else who comes to this country to rob, rape, kill, or use our laws against us and game the system to leach off of us…

“So what is all this going to cost?”

How about a WAR, before I spend a single dime on this HOAX and Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Fascist ideology and group think of the Left that you THINK you can take a single scrap of food from my children or any of my property that I worked so hard for?

THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING IT COST FOR EVEN BRINGING THIS TRIPE UP AND WASTING OUR TIME!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM

All that matters now is that, thanks to the EPA finding, “Anthropogenic Global Warming” will now be tried in court.
While the government has the money, the EPA is currently an intellectual lightweight as far as climate science, so this is no “slam dunk.”

J_Crater on December 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM

And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race. Period.’”

Presuming the the AGW alarmists are right, which looks increasingly doubtful, the world has been warmer with no ill effects. In fact, a somewhat warmer climate then now, as we had in the late medieval ages, seems to be more optimal for humanity.

Now we should indeed be doing some examination as to what, if anything, we could do to raise temperatures if another ice age triggers. The most recent such event dramatically reduced human population and was arguably responsible for more human misery then any other event in written history.

“Psychologists studying the issue say that the now-familiar warnings about climate change kick at emotional dead spots in all human brains — but especially in American brains.

Americans have been jealous guardians of their freedom traditionally. While Europeans were content kneeling to their petty lords, Americans took a different path.

“‘We have to ask him, when he provided trillions of dollars to save Wall Street, are the children of the world not deserving help to save their lives?‘ he said.”

Liberals generally look on children, especially third world children, as a bane. This is especially true the more seriously they are environmentalists. Generally speaking they support a stringent eugenics program that would allow only limited reproduction from those judged superior.

18-1 on December 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM

When do we start the petition to get our country out of the U.N….?

ujorge on December 8, 2009 at 11:36 PM

ujorge:Right after Obama loses in 2012!

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:44 PM

The Believers are such liars

See

http://rightwingnews.com/2009/12/four-colossal-holes-in-the-theory-of-man-made-global-warming/

In October, Dr. (Don) Easterbrook made similar points at the geological society meeting in Philadelphia. He hotly disputed Mr. Gore’s claim that “our civilization has never experienced any environmental shift remotely similar to this” threatened change.

Nonsense, Dr. Easterbrook told the crowded session. He flashed a slide that showed temperature trends for the past 15,000 years. It highlighted 10 large swings, including the medieval warm period. These shifts, he said, were up to “20 times greater than the warming in the past century.”

So, the planet has had bigger temperature shifts than the one we’re experiencing now. It has also been warmer than it is today:

The…warming before our last ice age was much warmer than anything we’ve had since. We had a warming that peaked 9000 years ago, another warming that peaked 5000 years ago. Both were warmer than today. Probably the Roman warming and the medieval warming were both warmer than today — and we’ve had 8 warmings of the earth since the last Ice Age.

The earth has been warmer and cooler than it has been in the last hundred years. The earth has had higher levels of CO2 in its history . The rate of warming has been higher in the past.

also:

CJ at LGF is a hoot. He now slams and makes the comment that for several years he did not think there were climate change deniers….funny thing was he was one in 2007 .

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/12/charles-johnson-shocked-shocked-to-learn-there-are-actually-people-who-dont-believe-in-manmade-globa.html

Chuckie still has this posted on his site but he has since creatively stuck a little note in noting that the Great Global Warming Swindle had some issues with its accuracy. The guy truly is sucking up to his new friends.

Funny he talks much of why he no longer hangs with the right. He has problems with such people as Limbaugh. You know if something is right it is right . You don’t decide to be for something or against something based on the group you belong. I see plenty of ugliness in any large group — and plenty of good. He seems to love to be ugly…that is for certain.

CWforFreedom on December 8, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Oh another point, why aren’t environmentalists leading the effort to reduce their own carbon footprints before we even begin to discuss restricting others?

Seriously, what ever happened to keeping your laws off my body? But now the standard is that you get to determine what I eat, how I entertain myself, and how I live my life on a day to day basis because you can’t be bothered to live by your own beliefs?

The hubris of these grifters knows no bounds.

18-1 on December 8, 2009 at 11:45 PM

THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING IT COST FOR EVEN BRINGING THIS TRIPE UP AND WASTING OUR TIME!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Seven Percent Solution:

BROUGHT TO YOU BY FU BO THE CLOWN OPERATION!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Never let a crisis go to waste.
We have multiple crisis’s going at the moment: healthcare, this carbon dioxide crap, medicare in the red for at least 6 months, not enough tax revenue coming in. When this shit hits the fan and it will, I wonder what we are going to look like as a Nation. This whole thing is making me sick. I feel bad for my kids that will have to be in the middle of this takeover. It needs to stop. I wish the Republicans were out on the steps every day getting attention to this situation.

Brat4life on December 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM

If lies were nickles, the worlds children would be just fine.

Liberalism only needs a few reasonably intelligent, mature people, any more are just, in the way.

Speakup on December 8, 2009 at 11:51 PM

INSANE.

PattyJ on December 8, 2009 at 11:52 PM

These people are on more dope than anyone should ever be. Why anyone listens to this nonsense is beyond me.

echosyst on December 9, 2009 at 12:06 AM

So, would it be anti-climate to have all these AGW folks move to Antarctica, chill out for a while, and have the US lib think tank and politicos join them? They could even run the weather station, reporting on the high temps, traffic conditions, let us know who flatulates the most methane gas.

Oh, yeah, and export penguin poop for fertilizer; gotta pay ttheir own way somehow.

Robert17 on December 9, 2009 at 12:10 AM

“The decade of 2000 to 2009 appears to be the warmest one in the modern record, the World Meteorological Organization reported in a new analysis on Tuesday…

WTF!?!?!

Hasn’t there been a steady decline in global temperatures since 1999? and if that is the case then you would think that making a statement like that is pretty stupid. Seriously if there is any justice in the world Copenhagen will be sucked into a black hole taking all of these idiots with it.

Hellrider on December 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM

OT, but I wanted to drop this link:

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=514701

Thugs in Velvet.

Politics: A pack of leftists has put a $200,000 price on the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Tom Donohue. Oh, it’s not a plot to kill him, they claim, only a bounty to get him arrested. It’s one heck of a coarsening of U.S. politics.

James on December 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM

And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race. Period.’”

LOL…

Rae on December 9, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Oh noes!!!! We have to do something immediately!!1!! We’re going to cause our own extinction!!11!!!eleventy

Here’s a newsflash for ya, all ye worshippers of Science: Sooner or later, we’re gonna be extinct anyway. See, that’s how it works. And whether you believe it happens at the hands of God or an asteroid, it doesn’t really matter because –

1. The end result will be the same (except some of us will be going to live with God and the rest of y’all . . . well, not so lucky), and

2. There isn’t a dang thing your elitist, egomaniacal selves can do to stop it.

NoLeftTurn on December 9, 2009 at 12:18 AM

which is the extinction of the human race. ’”

Something the communist have been trying for almost a century.

Johan Klaus on December 9, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Researchers have only theories to explain why people in the United States have done less than those in such places as Europe and Japan.

Freedom.

Johan Klaus on December 9, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Now that Obama has made us a third world country, I think China should pay our way. You guys never believed me when I wrote about the Global Marshall Plan, did ya?

Connie on December 9, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Seriously, what ever happened to keeping your laws off my body? But now the standard is that you get to determine what I eat, how I entertain myself, and how I live my life on a day to day basis because you can’t be bothered to live by your own beliefs?

18-1 on December 8, 2009 at 11:45 PM

No worries. You can still murder your unborn children.
/

mrsmwp on December 9, 2009 at 12:28 AM

Since the common sense quote was left out:

Copenhagen’s political science

By Sarah Palin
Wednesday, December 9, 2009

With the publication of damaging e-mails from a climate research center in Britain, the radical environmental movement appears to face a tipping point. The revelation of appalling actions by so-called climate change experts allows the American public to finally understand the concerns so many of us have articulated on this issue.

“Climate-gate,” as the e-mails and other documents from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia have become known, exposes a highly politicized scientific circle — the same circle whose work underlies efforts at the Copenhagen climate change conference. The agenda-driven policies being pushed in Copenhagen won’t change the weather, but they would change our economy for the worse.

The e-mails reveal that leading climate “experts” deliberately destroyed records, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and tried to silence their critics by preventing them from publishing in peer-reviewed journals. What’s more, the documents show that there was no real consensus even within the CRU crowd. Some scientists had strong doubts about the accuracy of estimates of temperatures from centuries ago, estimates used to back claims that more recent temperatures are rising at an alarming rate

This scandal obviously calls into question the proposals being pushed in Copenhagen. I’ve always believed that policy should be based on sound science, not politics. As governor of Alaska, I took a stand against politicized science when I sued the federal government over its decision to list the polar bear as an endangered species despite the fact that the polar bear population had more than doubled. I got clobbered for my actions by radical environmentalists nationwide, but I stood by my view that adding a healthy species to the endangered list under the guise of “climate change impacts” was an abuse of the Endangered Species Act. This would have irreversibly hurt both Alaska’s economy and the nation’s, while also reducing opportunities for responsible development.

Read the rest of this great piece here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120803402.html

gary4205 on December 9, 2009 at 12:32 AM

Bah humbug!

DFCtomm on December 9, 2009 at 12:32 AM

The short answer is trillions of dollars over the next few decades. It is a significant sum but a relatively small fraction of the world’s total economic output.

If the richer nations, and it would have to be them, have that much extra loot around to spend then let them spend it on the starving kids in Africa and North Korea rather on some imaginary goblin.

They could also send a little of it to me to buy a heating system for my well as with all their “global warming” my well water froze up today. Never used to do that either.

MB4 on December 9, 2009 at 12:33 AM

canopfor on December 8, 2009 at 11:46 PM

I am so sick and tired of this HOAX and the fact that it made it past a sixth grade oceanographic class that I am spitting nails…

What do you think is actually going on in Copenhagen, real science, empathy for the world, or a big cake of the United States being cut up in pieces?

Time for this crap to STOP! And I mean it all, Political Correctness, Bias in the Media and Hollywood, our Educational System…

… look at where it lead us to. You want more or less of this crap?

TIME TO STOP THIS!!!

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2009 at 12:33 AM

Researchers have only theories to explain why people in the United States have done less than those in such places as Europe and Japan.

Maybe because Americans are less given to be taking in by money grubbing fraudsters and power hungry psychopaths.

MB4 on December 9, 2009 at 12:37 AM

economic benefits in new jobs, improved lives, more secure energy supplies and a reduced danger of climate catastrophe.

Right, because if you want higher employment you need lower efficiency, lower quality, and raise costs. Then the employers just rush to hire people… although they aren’t right now.

Weird, maybe we have the chart upside-down again? Darn, we do. We need lower costs and higher efficiency for higher employment. Well that just messes all these plans up doesn’t it? We’ll lose more jobs than we create if we can’t reverse the theories of economics that have been in place since the damn of time… we’ll need those CRU guys to show us how to “hide the decline” I’m thinking.

But hey, when we end fossil fuels without building nuclear plants and turn more food into fuel so you’re freezing and starving to death next winter, you’ll really feel those “improved lives”. We said improved, not “longer” or “healthier” or “we won’t kill you with our plans”… improved could mean anything.

Your energy supplies will be more secure. You won’t have any, and wouldn’t be allowed any if you did have something you could find. Very secure, who can put something that doesn’t exist at risk?

And finally, a reduced risk of climate catastrophe. Down from .0000019% to .0000018%; and if that isn’t worth 100 million people starving or freezing to death, I don’t know what is.

/Really, do I need a sarc tag? Fine.
/sarc

gekkobear on December 9, 2009 at 12:39 AM

When ALL those Third World countries (not to mention a few First World countries) stop robbing their own people blind daily and stop blaming their economic woes on “the rich” then, perhaps, I may begin to feel a few pulls on the heartstrings….but until then…nope, don’t feel even a furtive pang.

Frankly, this whole global climate Ponzi scheme is nothing less than a global attempt to rob from all of us to line the pockets of the very very few.

This garbage has got to be stopped. It has gone on for far far too long already.

coldwarrior on December 9, 2009 at 12:39 AM

What do you think is actually going on in Copenhagen, real science, empathy for the world, or a big cake of the United States being cut up in pieces?

Seven Percent Solution on December 9, 2009 at 12:33 AM

The creep of communism.

Johan Klaus on December 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM

And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Oh gosh, I’m crying I’m laughing so hard!

John the Libertarian on December 9, 2009 at 12:45 AM

“Psychologists studying the issue say that the now-familiar warnings about climate change kick at emotional dead spots in all human brains — but especially in American brains. Researchers have only theories to explain why people in the United States have done less than those in such places as Europe and Japan. Some think Americans are culturally leery of programs the government might develop to target climate change, trusting instead that the free market will solve major problems.

Americans are less prone to be bamboozled by any self-proclaimed central authority. Our country was founded on not accepting the government’s bullshit excuses for crushing our prosperity and freedom.

Europe and Asia have known pretty much nothing buy tyranny throughout their history. American’s beat back tyranny and we’ll be happy to give it another whuppin’ if it shows up again.

BKennedy on December 9, 2009 at 12:49 AM

INSANE.

PattyJ on December 8, 2009 at 11:52 PM

I See Insanity – False gods

Kini on December 9, 2009 at 12:56 AM

“‘We have to ask him, when he provided trillions of dollars to save Wall Street, are the children of the world not deserving help to save their lives?‘ he said.”

Do it for the chillllldren!

PETA respectfully requests that leftists cease beating this dead horse… really… you’re being most inhumane

ya2daup on December 9, 2009 at 1:06 AM

The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow [of the Earth] on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.
- Ferdinand Magellan

If Ferdinand Magellan was alive today he would probably say:

The Church of Global Warming says the earth is dangerously heating up, but I know that it is not, for I have seen the snow and ice and have felt their bitter cold, and I have more faith in snow and ice than in the Church of Global Warming, and it’s High Priests.

MB4 on December 9, 2009 at 1:24 AM

And they don’t look at the cost of inaction, which is the extinction of the human race.

Oh dear Gods, this tripe again. I remember watching a Discovery Documentary about possible disasters, they portrayed Meteorite Impact, Supernova, Gamma Ray Burst and Nuclear Terrorism. Every segment was wrapped up by the Narrator saying ‘The End of Civilization as we know it’.

But I am a student of history with a very long view. We were very nearly made extinct once and by a process far more devastating than a 30 percent increase in a trace Greenhouse Gas that is quiet necessary for human survival.

About 70K to 75K years ago, the Toba Caldera located in Indonesia erupted with the force of 1 Gigaton of TNT. It deposited 9 meter thick ashfalls in Indonesia, 6 meter thick ashfalls on the Indian Subcontinent. It ejected on the order of One Hundred Million Tons of Sulfuric Acid and other Sulfates that form small droplets in the atmosphere which reflect significant portions of the Sun’s energy back into space. Lake Toba lowered Global Temperature by about 15 Degrees Centigrade. And this happened in the middle of an Ice Age.

To put it in perspective Lake Toba rates an 8 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index. Tambora which erupted in 1815 and caused ‘The Year Without a Summer’ rates a 7. Krakatoa rates a 6 as does Mount Pinatubo.

The Climatic effects were so bad it reduced the human population to 10,000 and possibly 1,000 Breeding Pairs.

However, the Climate had recovered within a few decades and the descendants of those few thousand Humans who had survived Lake Toba went on to live.

So to those who say Global Warming will turn us extinct. Hogwash. It is B.S. (Bad Science). We as a species have been through something far more traumatic and survived.

Holger on December 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM

“As scary as that number sounds, the agency said that the costs would ramp up relatively slowly and be largely offset by economic benefits in new jobs, improved lives, more secure energy supplies and a reduced danger of climate catastrophe.”

And when these utopian benefits never materialize, then what? The socialists who are peddling this line of crap will either be dead or safely out of power, leaving the rest of us with the bill.

Most of the investment will come from private rather than public funds, the agency contends.

Public funds start out as private funds, until they are confiscated by governments. This sounds like an Obama-esque way of trying to hide the truth about where the money will come from.

UltimateBob on December 9, 2009 at 1:56 AM

It does seem like they won’t stop until they cause a civil war, doesn’t it?

scotash on December 9, 2009 at 2:04 AM

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