Susan Collins a No on public option
posted at 12:15 pm on December 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I would have put a question mark in the headline, except that the quotes from the CNS News report doesn’t leave much wiggle room. Susan Collins not only categorically stated that she would block a bill that contained a public option, she invoked the failure of DirigoChoice program in Maine as the reason. Joe Lieberman, who appeared with Collins for this announcement, may have outflanked Harry Reid:
Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) repeated their opposition to a “public option” in a final Senate health care bill when CNSNews.com asked if there were any circumstances in which they would vote for cloture on the bill if it includes a government-run insurance program. …
Collins said she agreed with Lieberman and cited the failure of the government- run health insurance program in her home state of Maine.
“I do not support and think it is unwise policy to create a government-owned, government-run insurance company,” Collins said. “And it is not necessary to achieve the objective of broader coverage, lower cost, and higher quality health care system.”
Collins said the Maine program was extremely costly and only provides health care coverage for 10,000 of the 150,000 low-income people in the state who are uninsured.
“It didn’t work,” Collins said.
In fact, DirigoChoice turned out to be a disaster. It drove up insurance premiums to three times that of neighboring New Hampshire, and the costs became so prohibitive that Maine had to ration entry into DirigoChoice. Why? Government-imposed mandates on private insurance, including the community rating and guaranteed issue that Congress will demand as part of ObamaCare, made insurance a lot more costly. Those who joined DirigoChoice then began using it in the manner that third-party payer models encourage, and Maine quickly ran out of money for the program.
Anyone familiar with the failure of Maine’s DirigoChoice should be opposed to ObamaCare just on the basis of experience. Collins, who had been a potential swing vote for Democrats, has put herself in Lieberman’s camp instead. That leaves just Olympia Snowe as a Republican who might cross the aisle to compensate for the loss of Lieberman, and it seems doubtful that Snowe will cross up her Maine colleague at this point, especially since she has also vocally opposed the public option.
That may not be the only problem for Reid, either:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the chamber would take up an amendment by Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., that would strictly prohibit taxpayer money from being spent on abortion.
“I want to get it out of the way,” Reid said. “I think we all do.”
But the amendment could ultimately stand in the way of the bill’s final passage, no matter what the outcome of the Monday vote.
The decision on the abortion amendment will be a decisive moment. If it fails, anti-abortion Democrats including Nelson and Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., may vote against the final bill. But if the amendment passes, the party’s many senators who support abortion access, such as Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., could walk away.
Nelson’s amendment is based on a provision authored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., that would prevent insurance plans that received taxpayer subsidies from covering abortion. Stupak’s amendment to the House bill that passed last month has become a lightning rod on the Left.
Keep an eye on this vote today. Call your Senators and tell them that you don’t want your tax dollars funding abortions.









Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
I learned something a long time ago in the PO. No matter what they tell you, don’t count on anything until it’s actually happened.
bikermailman on December 7, 2009 at 12:17 PM
It ain’t over ’til it’s over. Let’s hope this is a good sign and there’s not 300 quadrillion in the bill for Maine.
Drained Brain on December 7, 2009 at 12:18 PM
But if they rename the public option to “competitive option”, then…
faraway on December 7, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Yeah, whatever.
jennifernaz on December 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Call your senator. . . especially if it is a D senator. Even if it is Senator Reid and tell them you don’t want them to vote for this bill because it puts undue burden on states through unfunded Medicaid liabilities.
Tell them you don’t want them to raise your taxes and insurance premiums and cut Medicare benefits. If you are 60, you have been paying for Medicare benefits for 40 years and now they are telling you that you don’t deserve to get it all back. . . or now, they are going to use it to give YOUR health care to younger and healthier people.
ThackerAgency on December 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM
id love nothing more than to abort all these sociopaths in government.
moonbatkiller on December 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I don’t care what these people say, all the stuff they want will be added back in at some point. These crooks just want this thing passed then they add amendments back in.
L
letget on December 7, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I don’t think Sen. Collins worries about “wiggle room” so I am not going to count on her until this whole ObamaCare discussion is buried under ten feet of cement.
myrenovations on December 7, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Didn’t Blue Dog/RINO Landrieu tell us the same thing?
darclon on December 7, 2009 at 12:24 PM
And THIS is the point and the problem. What will happen when they persuade enough Senators to vote ‘yes’ on this bill, it will be reconciled with the House bill. During that process none of these votes will matter they will put in whatever they want to put in.
When the final bill comes back, they only need 50 votes. The final bill will look nothing like the Senate bill if they pass it with 60 votes.
ThackerAgency on December 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Nah…. she just looking for a bigger bribe…
Romeo13 on December 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I “Hope” that some Democrats will “Change” their mind.
bbordwell on December 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM
DirigoChoice? Sounds like an oxymoron!!! There are a lot of people with French-Canadian roots in Maine, and the French verb “diriger” means “to direct”–as in government-directed mandates, which is the exact opposite of “choice”!
Whoever named this program in Maine was asking for trouble, and evidently Susan Collins has figured it out. Hopefully, she can persuade her state-mate not to vote for a Snowe job!
Steve Z on December 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM
How about just a NO, with or without a ‘public option’
?
Stop haggling. Just say NO
bridgetown on December 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Another distraction.
The “abortion payment” fuss means nothing! Only the entire Osama Obama-care bill is important.
Waste time on this small issue while the whole economy-killing, totalitarian takeover wends its way through the Senate, and you are effectively working for Reid and the rest of the traitorous scum.
Somehow, the whole mess must be defeated and those who back it must be politically destroyed. History has shown that once it is enacted, repeal will be a virtual impossibility.
MrScribbler on December 7, 2009 at 12:36 PM
The Abortion amendment is, just like the Stupak amendment, nothing more than a trick. If it passes then weak dems can point to it as cover for their votes. If it doesn’t then they’ll have a much harder time getting the 60 votes needed.
The Republicans need to kill the Nelson amendment. Don’t the Democrats any cover. If they want to vote for it make them own it.
Kronos on December 7, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Must be time for Harry and O Bomber to dip into the pork barrel slush fund again! Next thing ya know, Maine will be getting several billion in “recovery” money for research into the sex lives of moose, along with a few billion more for a study of the “life’s travels of the Maine lobster”. Next thing ya know, two Maine senators will be voting “yea”.
GoldenEagle4444 on December 7, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I don’t trust Snowe…period
cmsinaz on December 7, 2009 at 12:41 PM
While it may not get repealed, it will die. Dumping another trillion or two deficit a year on our economy will kill pretty much everything, and I mean everything.
Johnnyreb on December 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I keep wondering how Evan Bayh can be counted on as a Yes. What’s the word on him?
james23 on December 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Does anyone on here believe her?
Wade on December 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Abortion will be covered after the criminals get their hands on the details. TRUST ME, Pelosi, Reid, and (Obama, TheLate Term Abortion GHOUL) will do whatever they need to do to accomplish this part of their radical agenda.
marklmail on December 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Negative.
Knucklehead on December 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM
I live in AR and call Senator Lincoln’s office every other day. She is definitely a critical vote on this issue but for those calling and hammering her please don’t forget our other so-called moderate Democrat senator, Mark Pryor. He is well aware of Lincoln’s poll numbers as well as the overwhelming opposition to Obamacare here in AR. Pryor thinks that he can vote to pass this monstrosity and that we’ll forget his involvement when he’s up for reelection in 2014. So, if you’re going to call Lincoln don’t forget to call Pryor as well and mention Lincoln’s poll numbers to his staffers.
A vote for cloture is a vote for Obamacare.
DerKrieger on December 7, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Even if they end up making the abortion services a individually purchased add on, it will take about two days and one person backed by the ACLU, to claim they cannot afford to purchase the add on, and that makes it….wait for it….discrimination against the poor.
KILL.THE.BILL.
Itchee Dryback on December 7, 2009 at 12:55 PM
“Will you kiss me”..
the_nile on December 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Carefully targeted funding will probably cause the Snowe to melt, then this will pass.
We’ll see.
cs89 on December 7, 2009 at 12:57 PM
That should also extend to Nelson. He’s searching desperately for a fig leaf.
a capella on December 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM
So? That’s the whole damned POINT of Socialism: it fails horrifically, on every scale it’s ever tried, until people can’t run away from it anymore. And that’s when the whole God awful mess magically turns into a Worker’s Paradise.
Nobody’s going to convince me that a hardcore lifelong Communist is bailing on her religion because of this.
She is only taking this “stand” because she knows she absolutely, positively cannnot win re-election if this bill goes through.
logis on December 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Everyone cheered when the House of Representatives put the anti abortion Stupak amendment into the House health bill. 40 members voted for the amendment when the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) put their stamp of approval on the bill. Cheers all around.
With the far left controlling the process a bill must take to become law, there is little chance that the Stupak amendment will actually make it to the president’s desk. The amendment will be dropped all together or most likely wordsmithed into uselessness. The USCCB will thump its chest and say they did the best for the sanctity of life and feel good about themselves. They will note that everyone will have quality health care, the nation is healed…….But, they will have ignored the larger war on the sanctity of life.
The USCCB has allowed itself to find a spot of acceptance in an otherwise unacceptable bill created by devious people. It has used that spot to give a sweeping endorsement of the whole thing. They have given tacit approval to all the anti-life parts of the bill. They went down the whole slippery slope in one jump. Despite the denials there are panels that will decide who can get treatments and who will not. It’s already started. Mammograms at 50 instead of 40. Flue vaccine only for people under 65. End of life counseling sessions to promote euthanasia. Embryonic stem cell research is high on the project list.
The USCCB must remember these are the people that brought us partial birth abortions and have fought to keep them. These should be the people that the USCCB would not want to be caught associating with. It seems they could get along with Stalin as long as he said he wouldn’t do abortions. They must remember that abortion is the biggest sacrament in the Secular Humanist church and they will say and do anything to keep it.
The first moral lesson my mother taught me (after I became aware that there was a big world out there) was that the ends never justify the means. As we have seen, to the Marxist socialist only the ends have meaning and any means are justified.
prophetsfather on December 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I think this counts for a lot more than people think.
jhffmn on December 7, 2009 at 1:23 PM
This was pretty much stated by Sebelius in her address to a group of universal health care advocates. To para phrase, she stated that “It’s not about honesty…its about strategy, and we will win”
These people are evil and malignant narcissists.
Itchee Dryback on December 7, 2009 at 1:26 PM
What EVAH-s
She will cave in along with the other Maine RINO.
angryed on December 7, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I have a feeling in the next week or two we will hear announcements about the new Susan Collins Center for the Performing Arts ready to break ground in Portland, Maine. Followed closely by a brand new Olympia Snowe Terminal at the newly expanded by $500M of federal dollars Bangor, Maine aiprpott
angryed on December 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Nobody with a brain believes her….when we see her ACT, then I will cease being a Doubting Thomas!
search4truth on December 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM
As a resident of the only other United State bordering hers, I say NO.
Just curious,. are there any other lower 48 US states that only share a border with 1 other state?
Del Dolemonte on December 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM
unless she get TWO MILLION DOLLARS!
tomas on December 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Her Carol Channing voice makes me snicker every time. I hope she is true to her word.
SouthernGent on December 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Riiiiiight….I’ll believe this when Obama throws Reid and Pelosi under his campaign bus because they failed to pass Obama care.
csdeven on December 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM
No. That’s one of those things that Mainers feel proud about…along with electing idiot women to the senate repeatedly.
angryed on December 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM
agree
cmsinaz on December 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I’ve given up on Nelson! He will be one of the 60 votes to stop the debate and then vote no on health care just to keep Nebraskans quiet until his term is up.
yoda on December 7, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Rather than blaming the Senators for Maine for their lack of purity, we should be sincerely thanking them for sinking ObamaCare in the only way possible given the Democratic margin in the Senate. Simply put, if some Republicans weren’t willing to work with the Democrats, the Democrats would be tempted to force Obamacare by a simple majority on a budget vote, and we would have had it for sure. Now, it’s going be very difficult to argue that we have to destroy the filibuster for Obamacare. And this is excellent for the entire country. Given that polarization of the two parties is expectionally high right now, we need the filibuster more than ever to avoid insane rapid changes in public policy.
thuja on December 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM
I thought pro-life was just a social-con’s hobby horse? Trying to butter your bread on both sides, Ed?
Rode Werk on December 7, 2009 at 2:46 PM
I’m no longer interested in Collins or Snowe.
Do it or don’t. No more negotiations with individual senators.
AnninCA on December 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM
How about; “NO THIS BILL IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!” or hasn’t anyone but Michelle Bachmann READ the Constitution?
nelsonknows on December 7, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Where’s the principled Catholics who largely vote Dem?
Oxymoron?
dhunter on December 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM
I, for one, am very excited to see an Ed Morrissey headline that doesn’t have a question mark in it.
Kevin M on December 7, 2009 at 5:02 PM
So what get rid of that Sea Hag!
sonnyspats1 on December 7, 2009 at 5:53 PM