Video: McCain rips transparent, post-partisan president for closed-door “pep talk” with Dems
posted at 8:01 pm on December 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
It’s always fun watching Maverick work off some of his bitterness towards The One over last year’s election and this is no exception. So painfully slow was the news this afternoon, even by usual Sunday standards, that not only is Obama’s dopey rah-rah session with Senate Democrats the lead story on Drudge right now, but the only real news to come out of it is what wasn’t mentioned there — namely, the public option.
Obama spoke for roughly 30 minutes and did not take questions, senators said afterward.
Reid told reporters that Lieberman had approached him after the meeting to note the absence of the public option, but that folks shouldn’t read too much into Obama’s silence on the issue. “That doesn’t mean it’s not an issue, because the president didn’t talk about it,” said Reid.
Obama’s reluctance to stand up for the public option has been a source of contention between Reid, who is pushing for it, and Obama. Reid has asked five progressive senators and five conservatives to work out a compromise on the public option. The group will meet again Sunday afternoon, though without guidance from the president.
White House spokesman Bill Burton also mentioned insurance reform and affordability in his statement about the meeting, but neglected to mention the public option.
He didn’t mention Nelson’s abortion amendment either, which will be introduced as early as tomorrow. I remember reading last month, after Lieberman’s much-publicized announcement that he’d filibuster a final bill that had a public option, that it was all smoke and mirrors and that Joementum wouldn’t stand in the way when the time came. Really? Check out this bit from an interview he did with the Journal this past week. Does this sound like a guy who’s preparing to have an eleventh-hour awakening to the glories of government-run insurance?
Why is he adamant? Mr. Lieberman says that while he is not “a conspiratorial person,” he believes the public option is intended as a way for the government to take over health care. “I’ve been working for health-care reform in different ways since I arrived here,” he says. “It was always about how do we make the system more efficient and less costly, and how do we expand coverage to people who can’t afford it, and how do we adopt some consumer protections from the insurance companies . . . So where did this public option come from?” It was barely a blip, he says, in last year’s presidential campaign.
“I started to ask some of my colleagues in the Democratic caucus, privately, and two of them said “some in our caucus, and some outside in interest groups, after the president won such a great victory and there were more Democrats in the Senate and the House, said this is the moment to go for single payer.’” So, I joke, the senator is, in fact, as big a “conspiracy theorist” as me. He laughingly rejoins: “But I have evidence!”
No wonder Obama’s meeting one-on-one with Queen Olympia in the Oval Office again. If Reid decides he can’t afford to piss off the left by dropping the public option, they’re likely going to need not one but two votes (at least) to get to 60: Lieberman’s a lost cause and Blanche Lincoln would be committing kamikaze by voting yes. Expect to see reports of Oval Office meetings with Susan Collins sometime soon too.
Exit question: How low will Obama’s numbers go if he’s forced to drop the public plan just weeks after breaking the left’s heart with a surge in Afghanistan? What’ll be left of the cult of Hopenchange?
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It’s hard to argue with people who dismiss those who simply want honest answers as “birthers,” isn’t it?
I have no idea where the hell Osama Obama was born. I’d like to know. Frankly, I’d also like to understand why, if his citizenship at birth was what he claimed it was (in his book), anyone considered him a “natural-born citizen.”
Likewise, so much of his life has been deliberately obscured (from his trip to Pock-ee-stohn to his college grades) that I think some straight, verifiable answers are in order.
Why Repubs are wimpy enough to roll over and give the Chicago Jesus a pass on matters of vital concern — and which no other candidate would be allowed to let slide past — is simply beyond me.
MrScribbler on December 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM
katy:
How do you know that is his money? You do not know where it is from? Why didn’t Bill Clinton, former President of the United States go get the damn thing if there was anything there?
I think that he is spending the money to keep the issue alive so that people will continue to make fools of themselves over it.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Have you ever considered the reason he did this is the same reason Palin doesn’t produce the birth certificate of her son? It’s a ploy that both victimizes them and discredits those that keep bringing it up.
lowandslow on December 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM
I hope our side is working Snowe/Collins over, putting dead horse heads in their beds, etc.
Midas on December 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Right on McCain! Keep pounding. Let the surge begin.
mike_NC9 on December 6, 2009 at 9:24 PM
MrScribbler:
Oh please. The state of Hawaii has verified his birth in that state.. If that is not going to answer questions, what will?
I am not going to get into this, it is silly. The short form does not contradict the long form. If the short form, verified by the state of Hawaii states that Obama was born in Hawaii, then nothing in the long form will contradict that.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Well stated.
Fletch54 on December 6, 2009 at 9:26 PM
We probably don’t need to see them as we are now having to endure his thesis come to fruition.
katy on December 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM
There’s more to Obama than just his xcripts, it’s a lifetime process of learning.
Kini on December 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM
I’ll back you up because I saw it too. It was during one of his presser’s sometime in August.
Proud Rino, shut up.
Knucklehead on December 6, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Oh great, maybe you have a link!
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 9:31 PM
It’s a con. One of three things will happen:
1.) They will take out the Public option only to be put back in by the House just like they did with the stimulus bill. This allows Senators to vote yes (because “I didn’t vote for the Public option”) and then Harry Reid will allow them to vote no on the final bill. (again to say they didn’t vote for the Public option.) This is the same trick they pulled with the Stimulus bill.
2.)Keep a “CO-OP” (which IS a Public option)
3.) Put in a “trigger” to get Blue Dog Dems, Olympia Snowe, adn possibly Susan Collins to vote for it. This is ALSO a PUBLIC OPTION because guess who gets to decide if the criteria is met and sufficient and would then become a PUBLIC OPTION (not to mention this President and Administration keep changing the rules on everything so we cannot trust him on this. Remember when they kept telling us there will be no rationing or nobody will decide when we can have mammograms and pap smears, etc. yet Dems VOTED DOWN the amendment that would have made sure that wouldn’t happen.
I take Obamalinsky at his word. When he was out of the Public earshot where he had moments of honesty on his agenda, on NUMEROUS occasions, he stated he wanted a Single-payer plan, also that he relied on Andy Stern of SEIU and the person high up in LaRaza (can’t remember the name)to mold his agenda on Healthcare which is a single-payer plan.
Lastly, his own Czars, administration members, goups he belonged to or groups that currently help write our bills (ACORN, SEIU, APOLLO ALLIANCE, TIDES FOUNDATION) all are on video stating they are putting in a plan to lead to single-payer.
This Congress and President will ram Govt. Run Healthcare down our throats.
What a shame too, the first black President is disappointing.
He could have been a great President, one leading an even greater, stronger America. He is only weakening her from all sides.
TriciaNC on December 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Oh my… another wizard of smart lose in the threads tonight.
I think you may be on to something with that crazy Palin babe.
The audacity of her hiding her sons BC and all. I mean… using Terry’s logic… what if he runs for President someday. Oh the tangled web we weave….
katy on December 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Proud Rino:
Are you under the impression that there is a link for everything Gibbs said at every presser?
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:33 PM
But here is where you get on the short bus. You pick your battles and i’ll pick mine. The petty insults just make people all defensive and negative. This is typical attitude for most any conspiracy theory. The crisis in our country is corruption in government. Support GOP’ers that are against corruption. Like Sarah Palin and John McCain.
mike_NC9 on December 6, 2009 at 9:34 PM
katy:
Obama produced proof of his birth. That is my only logic. He has a passport. He did what was required of him by law.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM
First, I beleve it was YOU that cited Beck as a “source” for validation, I just point out that Beck repudiated his original position. Beck being for it or against it means nothing to me. I was just setting the record straight for “your source”.
Next, by saying the idea was a lot like they did for the “S&L bailout”…. I seem to remember something about that…. Keating… McCain… I’m sure it will come back to me.
The ORIGINAL bailout should NEVER have been done. If it had not, a lot of businesses and banks that should not be in business wouldn’t be. A lot of debt the government now has wouldn’t exist. This entire financial mess would probably be well behind us. But then again, Goldman Sachs probably wouldn’t have turned such a nice profit during the “downturn”.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Why does the presence or absence of a link make a difference in whether it actually happened or not?
Wethal on December 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Makes me wonder what deal Obama made with McCain during the campaign about the campaign.
- The Cat
MirCat on December 6, 2009 at 9:36 PM
I don’t have a link and I’m not wasting my time on you to find it. But although my eyes are bad, I know what I saw and heard. If you want to find it, do it yourself.
Knucklehead on December 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM
He never has has the qualities that it would take to a great president, he!! he’s a lousy Precedent.
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Ding ding ding…. (as the Duck comes down and $50 is won)
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM
What?
The interesting thing here, is that we have a totally incompetent president and the only thing half the posters seem to want to do, is attack the Republican or chase conspiracy theories.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM
CC:
If not for McCain, Sarah Palin would not have been nominated for the VP on that ticket.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I bet I could find a link analyzing passive aggressive posting behavior on blogs if I wanted to….
Red State State of Mind on December 6, 2009 at 9:40 PM
s/b has had
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Exactly!
Red State State of Mind on December 6, 2009 at 9:41 PM
One of the few things we can thank him for.
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Unless you can show that the government is more corrupt now than in the past, then this is an empty talking point.
Meanwhile, it is verifiable that the government is bigger than ever, and has more power than ever…that is the problem.
But, the same solution applies…more Palin.
mockmook on December 6, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Completely agree.
And there are too many who won’t stop asking questions and that is a very good thing..
katy on December 6, 2009 at 9:43 PM
That would be a remarkable thing, if Gibbs said that. You’d hear about it on *some* conservative blog, somewhere – you know, about how Gibbs is an idiot or doesn’t understand the antitrust exemption or whatever.
So if he said it, I bet there’s a link. Somewhere.
And yet there’s not.
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM
More government=more corruption
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 9:44 PM
CC:
I seem to remember that McCain was completely exonerated in the Keating scandal..and yes, I did bring up Beck. My point was that a lot of people were scared…but my larger point was that Beck did not have to make decisions, but those people did.
And the idea that Barack Obama and the Democrats in Congress needed any help from any Republican when it comes to growing government or spending money just strikes me as absurd.
I heard Krauthammer talking about this, and he said that Paulson saved the economy. I have no idea if that is true, this is not something I know enough about to make that determination. But Krauthammer is a pretty smart guy, and if he is willing to make that determination then maybe there is something to it.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Proud Rino:
Well, why don’t you go find it?
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Proud Rino
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/21/video-the-white-house-opposes-health-insurance-competition-across-state-lines/
- The Cat
P.S. Always check The Boss.
MirCat on December 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Isn’t the “o” only the 2nd president to refuse to release his medical records as well? Clinton was the 1st – so I wonder what he is hiding with his health records? I don’t understand how an editor of a law review has no written opinions at all. Of course he’s hiding a lot! I don’t know either way about his birth certificate, but shouldn’t that be part of running for office? I mean the real, original birth certificate – with parent’s names, occupations, etc. That should be made part of the information that must be published before you run for office. For heaven’s sakes McCain had to show his – original etc.
Bambi on December 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Whoa! Is David Axelrod Robert Gibbs?
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM
I bet you could.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Really? Gee… amazing the thing you can learn here.
I voted for McCain because he was a better choice than the moron we elected. He would have been my absolute LAST choice among the top candidates. Graham or Snowe would be better than Obama so I would vote for them if they were the opposing candidate. I would hate it.
I had enthusiasm when I voted because of Palin. I volunteered to provide transportation to and from the polls for the local McCain office because of Palin.
McCain is still a RINO. Sorry.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Because I’m watching football and I’m pretty hammered at this point.
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I guess that is as good a reason as any.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:50 PM
McCain catches on fast, doesn’t he?
MB4 on December 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM
CC:
I understand how you feel. I am not even arguing with it. I just think that sometimes when people go on about how great Palin is how bad McCain is, they forget that not only did he put her on the ticket, she was apparently more than willing to share that ticket with him. She did not feel that he was not pro life enough or fiscally conservative enough, or hawkish enough or whatever.
Palin was more than willing to stand up there beside John McCain.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM
The point is is that the Administration said it. Refute the point that The Obama Administration is against buying across state lines because of ‘because’ or you’re just playing games.
- The Cat
MirCat on December 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM
heh
katy on December 6, 2009 at 9:53 PM
8 months ago:
Obama’s Double-Talk
While the president talks sobriety, his policies take America on an economic bender.
Barack Obama’s revelatory moment may have come in his first week as president. On his first day of work, he signed an executive order prohibiting lobbyists from holding highranking administration jobs, thereby fulfilling a campaign promise to “close the revolving door” between K Street and government via “the most sweeping ethics reform in history.” Two days later, the president granted a “waiver” from the new rules to install Raytheon lobbyist William Lynn as the No. 2 man in the Pentagon.
As offenses go, the move was trivial. But as a signal of a governing pathology, it established a pattern that Obama has repeated serially since being sworn into office: reiterate a high-sounding promise from the campaign, undermine said promise with a concrete act of governance to the contrary, then claim with a straight face that the campaign promise has been and will continue to be fulfilled.
Once you identify the president’s tic of celebrating the very campaign promises that he breaks, you’ll see it everywhere.
MB4 on December 6, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Ah, McCain. I tried to prop you up all along the way but hey, well. Look here, how’s all that circumspect moderation and aisle-crossing working out for ya?
No, McCain’s pollyanna belief that he can have it both ways is as duplicitous and misguided as Obama’s.
Joan of Argghh on December 6, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Yeah, I was asking about the Gibbs presser, not “Can you find anything by anyone in the Obama Administration.”
-The Rino
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM
If the crisis is corruption in government — and I agree it is, as evidenced by corruptocrats like Osama Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Rangel, and on and on — then it would behoove us to weed out the corrupt individuals before thay are elected.
This could have been done with the Chicago Jesus — who was, IIRC, a “British citizen at birth” per his “autobiography,” and therefore not a “natural-born citizen” of the USA — but the novelty of electing a black president overrode all common sense.
I have never stated that I believe he was not born in Hawai’i, but I am a firm believer in “trust, but verify.”
I believe this is the view of 95% of those called “birthers.” We simply want the truth known.
And if it turns out that the Traitor-in-Chief is not Constitutionally eligible, it would merely be one more charge against him in the impeachment trial he so richly deserves.
MrScribbler on December 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM
I think the problem is that some people refuse to accept the truth. And if they don’t accept it now, nothing will satisfy them.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Terrye, I want to clarify that my comment was not meant to imply YOU are acting that way, but rather another of our posters was driving the ‘do you have a link’ thing into the ground. I believe I heard Gibbs respond to a reporters question in such a manner, and I believe the ONLY time I have listened to Gibbs is when I’ve watched the Press briefings, so I believe it was said in one of those sessions.
From what i recollect, there has been a Bill proposed in both houses that would free up people (individuals, not companies?) to buy health insurance policies across state lines. The basic logic laid out was that State mandates added items to insurance policies that individuals might not want to pay for. There was somne astronomical number of mandates quotes when all 50 states were aggregated. I have not read the bill, but assume it changes the anti trust status of the Insurance companies in whatever way they’d need to see to out of state consumers.
Red State State of Mind on December 6, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Well at least under Obama we know that we are not living in a world of fiction because as Mark Twain said, fiction has to make [at least some] sense.
MB4 on December 6, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Red State:
I knew what you meant. And I think you are right as well in your recollection.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Wrong Palin Did produce the birth certificate of her son.
Pony up Obama
IowaWoman on December 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM
You gotta wonder.
McConnell grasps the problem, but then McCain steps up and starts babbling about “Big Pharma.”
(Right now, Big Drug is the least of our problems…)
McVain always misses what the real issue is, which in this case is the public option getting rammed through under a DemocRat-controlled Senate.
Another case in point why McVain lost the election and why he may “help” Republicans lose any effective opposition to the bill.
I always end up thinking, as I did many times during the campaign, that his goal was to help NObama, not hurt him.
Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Unless the writer was James Fenimore Cooper. I read this critique Twain did of him and he said that the man just made no sense.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Yes, and truth is the one constant in everything Obama isn’t it?
I feel so much better now your truth has cleared up this aweful mess.
So grateful.
katy on December 6, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Obama produced the necessary documents verified by the state of Hawaii.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:03 PM
katy:
I do not like Obama. I do not think he is honest, but that has nothing to do with where the man was born.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM
I’ve finished her book. She was more than will and very thankful. She had nothing bad to say about McCain. However, the insight into those that managed the campaign and manage McCain clearly shows the vast difference between the two candidates. She was held back and held down… essentially told to sit down and shut up by the campaign. The differences between the two are very clear. Because chose a more conservative running mate to help him turn out some of the base that he disparaged does not mean that McCain is more conservative.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 10:05 PM
I mean come on, if the short form of the certificate of live birth states that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, then that means that he has produced the necessary evidence. Nothing in that short form will contradict the long form. That is just the way it is.
Why would Bill Clinton not go after it when Hillary needed the help? There is nothing he could not get if he wanted it. After all, when Obama was just some upstart Senator from Illinois, Bill Clinton was a former President of the United States.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Oh, isn’t that too bad. So it’s our fault you can’t find the link or are you just to drunk and lazy to do it?
Knucklehead on December 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I guess that about raps it up then doesn’t it. Kinda like Al Gore and global warming. Didn’t Al also produced the necessary documents that weren’t challenged?
Yes, Yes I believe that’s right.
You’re right Terrye the debate is OVER.
katy on December 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I’ve got no moral strings
To hold me down
To make me fret, or make me frown
I long ago had some small moral strings
But now I’m free
There are no moral strings on me
Hi-ho the me-ri-o
That’s the only way to go
I want the world to know
Nothing moral ever worries me
Hi-ho the me-ri-o
I’m as happy as can be
I want the world to know
Nothing moral ever worries me
I’ve got no moral strings
So I have fun
I’m not tied up to anyone
They’ve got moral strings
But as you can plainly see
There are no moral strings on me
(Obaminocchio)
Cheshire Cat on December 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM
A “conspiracy theory” with many believers… I’ve heard this from a number of different folks. If you read Palin’s book, you leave with the clear impression that the campaign did not want to hit Obama on anything really. As to why, you would have to ask them.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 10:09 PM
CC:
I like Palin. I don’t know if she was held back or not. I am not going to defend McCain’s campaign.
I am talking about McCain’s political beliefs. Palin did not say, I can not share a ticket with that man, he is a RINO.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:09 PM
I don’t believe that. I think that they thought going negative would backfire on them because they would be accused of racism. Hillary Clinton got pretty rough and it did not help her.
I don’t think it would have mattered really, one way or the other.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Brilliant analysis. Really. I’ll bet she wanted to. Right Terrye?
katy on December 6, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Clear to anyone that Wethal was speaking about what I linked too. He confused Baghdad Bob for Axel Bob in the exchange as he couldn’t remember who the reporter or network was either. But he did remember the important substantive part of the conversation.
Or do you feel the need to come to Robert Gibbs defense when someone wrongly attributes a quote from the Administration to him?
- The Cat
MirCat on December 6, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Why should she, she’s big time now and they’re not sure what to do about her.
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 10:12 PM
knock yourself out honey. go ahead. I could care less.
And btw, there is actually evidence that the world is getting cooler not warmer, there is no real evidence that Obama is not an American. Big difference.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM
And I did not say “I cannot vote for that man, he is a RINO”….. yet. He was one of the weakest candidates we could have put forward. The RNC made a calculation that the election would be about the war. They were wrong. Their campaign pushed that until the crash. Then they had nothing…. their candidate evaporated. His approach to solving the financial crisis… well, it seemed to be exactly what Bush AND Obama wanted. They had a chance to take the more conservative path and manage to differentiate themselves from both Bush and Obama. They chose not to.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I don’t think she should have, but then again, she did not seem to feel that he was not good enough for her or that her association with him would sully her credentials.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:16 PM
My interest in the transcripts are more for whats on the application page than his grades, nationality, scholorships applied for, grants etc. Far more telling than a short form BC.
Koa on December 6, 2009 at 10:16 PM
She knew better. IMHO
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Obama is a deceiver, a dissembler
His Mom trousers are alight
From what pole or banner
Shall they dangle in the night?
What infernal serpent
Has lent him his forked tongue?
From what pit of foul deceit
Have all his hiding and all his whoppers sprung?
PercyB on December 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM
CC:
I am not trying to be argumentative. Really I am not. I think that the RNC was not the problem. The problem is that Republicans tend to divide up in these little camps and they are not good at getting behind one candidate. McCain was the last man standing, no doubt about it. But people did not pick someone stronger or better and get behind that candidate and support him or her.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Whether Obama is an American, or not, will quite probably be finally settled sometime in the future.
The important thing right now is that Obama is not acting like an American.
Yoop on December 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM
No, he said he didn’t have cable, so it couldn’t have been CNN. Plus Axelrod never said that’s the type of competition they didn’t want, he just said…well…I’m not really sure what he was trying to say.
No. I was curious because I wanted to hear the question and the context within which Gibbs said that (and it seems pretty clear that he *didn’t* say that). I don’t think falsely attributing quotes to people is very nice, though.
-The Rino
Proud Rino on December 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM
She was and has been loyal to her principal. However, after reading her book, I’m quite confident you won’t see her as a VP candidate again, no matter who offers.
CC
CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM
True.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Cardinals are beating the Vikes like a rented mule.
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Yes, this is true. In fact, I think this is what feeds a lot of the feeling that he is lying to people and putting one over them. The man does not seem to think or perceive the world like an American. He is a transnational. That is why the foreigners like him, he seems like one of them.
No wonder people have doubts about where he really came from.
Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 10:23 PM
That’s because she’s a starter and not a back-up.
thomasaur on December 6, 2009 at 10:30 PM
No she didn’t, not that I give a shit one way or the other but if she did it would have ended this moronic Trig controversy.
lowandslow on December 6, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Too bad McCain was such a wimp during the campaign.
therightwinger on December 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Terrye,
Perhaps this will clear up any doubt that Obama is on the up and up with all things “birthy”
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/http://eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
katy on December 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Doesn’t matter Terrye…by his own admission he was a dual citizen at birth…
How does that afford him “natural born” status?
jerrytbg on December 6, 2009 at 10:45 PM
You are a moron.
csdeven on December 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM
He also said Obama respects the Constitution. I guess McCain’s not feeling the hopenchange anymore.
mizflame98 on December 6, 2009 at 10:52 PM
I believe whitehouse.gov does have a transcript of every white house press briefing.
Chris_Balsz on December 6, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Snowe will defect if Obama is nice enough to her. She’s just so dimwitted. Tell her how historic her vote will be and how brave she is because after all, “when history calls, history calls.” Her and her fellow nitwit from the Pine Tree State can always be counted on to shiv their caucus after enough stroking from the metrosexual One.
WarEagle01 on December 6, 2009 at 10:55 PM
You’re wasting your time.
Those who deride us for asking questions that should be asked of any and all candidates for the Presidency are living in a different world, one where facts mean less than appearances.
Osama Obama talked a good game. That got him elected.
The simple fact that he has acted like someone who wants to destroy the nation he swore to protect means nothing to them. They will argue “process” and politely discuss political ramifications right up to the moment they lose all their Constitutional rights.
Terrye is simply arguing the Ed Morrissey line. They will talk, and they will talk, and they will react with surprise and manufactured outrage when the totalitarian traitors brush them aside.
If the Chicago Jesus had nothing to hide, he would not have gone to the lengths he has to hide the circumstances of his birth, his college records, and many other incidents.
MrScribbler on December 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Dual citizen doesn’t mean he was born somewhere else. I have neices and a nephew that have dual citizenship… Ireland and US. Their father is a Prof. and an Irish citizen that is married to my sister-in-law. He has not chosen to become a citizen. All the kids were born here. They hold “dual citizenship” status.
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CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I know. I’m actually having fun w/Terrye. Obama is a Kenyan. We all know that. He’s also a communist from his first lesson from mom and dad, grandma and grandpa Dunham, and right through to the present day. We all know he loathes America. We all know he got into college by way of AA and $ from Rashid Mansoor and the bank of Saud. We all know what we all know.
The fun part is luring the lemmings out in the open and see them play.
katy on December 6, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Remember when Sen. John McCain was going to ‘name names’ regarding graft, fraud, waste, and abuses in Washington…?
Yeah, so do I.
Seven Percent Solution on December 6, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Sorry, got my Muslim thugs mixed up.
katy on December 6, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Only at this point?
mizflame98 on December 6, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Thanks, jenfidel. McCain was going off half-cocked on the Big Pharma point, which was hardly the biggest objection to the issue of Big Government seizing control of one-fifth of the economy.
McCain’s point may have been about the big-bucks influence of Pharma lobbyists, but the fact of the matter is that American pharmacists are the ones researching and developing new drugs. Rebuying generics from Canada or other countries may be cheaper in the short run, but no new drugs will be developed without a profit incentive.
Then again, Big Pharma is likely to get screwed over by ObaMao (since, as Jim Geraghty says, Obama promises have an expiration date. ObaMao-care is likely to insist on the prescribing of generics in order to keep costs down.
These assorted “health-care” bills need no more tinkering. They are unConstitutional. The federal government has no legal standing to set mandates of coverage.
onlineanalyst on December 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM
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