Quotes of the day

posted at 9:30 pm on December 5, 2009 by Allahpundit

“‘The Ron Paul bill is incredibly dangerous,’ said Mishkin, who is now a Columbia University professor, in a Bloomberg Radio interview. ‘It is remarkable the kind of attacks that are occurring on Fed independence.’…

“Paul’s bill ‘would be very dangerous in terms of promoting inflation,’ Mishkin said. ‘If you make the central bank beholden to politicians on a short-run basis, you get very bad outcomes: high inflation and less of the ability to deal with shocks like the ones we had recently.’”

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“Without missing a beat, he took a swing at Republicans, too.

“‘Another group,’ he told the crowd, thinks you can’t be trusted to make your own decisions. ‘You might end up smoking, drinking or gambling,’ he said. ‘You might have to tolerate people. They might have religious values that are different . . . sexual (orientations) that are different.

“‘But we’ll let them do it!’ Paul shouted, as the crowd yelled in support. ‘The solution . . . is freedom of the individual . . . and respect and confidence that does work.’”

***
“No one thinks Ron Paul is going to lead the GOP, let alone be president. He’s 74 years old and just too…out there. He is an obscure guy who waited patiently (if not quietly) for the cycle of history to come back around his way, and finally it did. We have been arguing about money, credit, and banks since the first days of the republic. Paul is a bargain-basement Jefferson for our time.

“Still, the GOP needs to study Ron Paul, and learn. No one has better captured the sense of Main Street outrage over secret insider deals and Wall Street bonuses. No one has been more consistent about sticking to core conservative values—including the one that says the government shouldn’t spend more money than it takes in. If the GOP is going to appeal to independent voters, it has to confront its own corporate allies. ‘Republicans need to find a populist edge again,’ says Craig Shirley, the author of Rendezvous With Destiny, a new account of Ronald Reagan’s 1980 campaign. ‘Reagan spoke to the guy who thought he was being screwed by big business, by big government, by the big media.’ The good doctor, of all people, is showing Republicans the way. What they need is a candidate who embodies the spirit of Ron Paul. Just so long as it isn’t Ron Paul.”

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American politics needs colorful independent politicians like Ron Paul. He is positively barmy on some issues but on others he is spot on and a often a lone sane voice.

lexhamfox on December 6, 2009 at 12:51 AM

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Just admit you hate anyone who believes in God. That admission would elucidate your political leanings.

daesleeper on December 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM

American politics need Ron Paul like the Netherlands need to be a few more feet below sea level.

daesleeper on December 6, 2009 at 12:56 AM


Ron Paul is Teh Ghey…!

He is a fan of Human Caused Climate Global Gayness.

Seven Percent Solution on December 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM

That same Fineman article that said “Just so long as it isn’t Ron Paul.” also said that Paul was a is an “angry, apocalyptic, populist, hard-currency libertarian.”

“angry”

Really?

Never pay attention to these opinion journalists.

Spathi on December 6, 2009 at 1:04 AM

Its not like we have much to go on to say she isn’t.

thphilli

Why would that stop us now? Evidence, shmedivence.

Last time around on these forums Romney was a member of an “evil cult” mass-hole RINO.
Guliani was a cross dressing, baby killing RINO.
Fred Thompson… Well he just dozed off.
John McCain was the Anti-Christ. People actually called him a “traitor” to the country.
Huckabee was another RINO.
Ron Paul could only win the polls that could be spammed and flooded on the internet.
We had folks pleading to vote for the nobodies like Bob Barr or braying douche-bags like Alan Keyes who already LOST to Obama.)

Sure, Palin doesn’t stand a chance in a general election (unless a bus load of more competent politicians goes off a cliff) but that can really only mean that “my side” will insist on her and vow to stay at home if she isn’t nominated. Seeing the lengths we went to in order to defeat ourselves the last time (Got to go through Carter to get to Reagan) and the willingness to double down with the circular firing squads since then tells me that having someone with an actual track record to assess in an effort to make a reasoned decision as to the viability of their candidacy isn’t an issue anymore.

Boxy_Brown on December 6, 2009 at 1:15 AM

With Boise included, Mountain West really should become a BCS conference.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on December 6, 2009 at 12:12 AM

The ONLY way the MWC could even be considered for BCS slot is if Boise St. left the WAC and joined the MWC. Even then it’s a stretch because the other 6 teams are perennial cover-your-eyes-awful loser programs.

uknowmorethanme on December 6, 2009 at 1:24 AM

I was there, I listened to his speech. He wasn’t that impressive, but he is/was right about auditing the Fed.

That said Steve Matthews is an idiot. There were economists there at the speech, the one who spoke about monetary policy works with two Chicago school of Economics Nobel Prize winners.

I think they know just as much about monetary policy as the Columbia (read: Keynesian) Prof. I’ll put my money on the free-market economist anytime.

Tim Burton on December 6, 2009 at 1:38 AM

Wow. Staggering brilliance. First it’s a sideshow with little impact. Then it’s important and serious.

John the Libertarian on December 5, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Well one thing for sure Gold isn’t going up because we have faith in our government’s ability to do anything right.

Gold is a reflection the world’s lack of trust in America and the world’s well founded fear of this President and his criminal cronies. When the mob takes over the white house what kind of security is left but Gold.

petunia on December 6, 2009 at 1:42 AM

Paul is such a strange nut to crack.

He’s got some great ideas and never seems to backdown from what he believes in, too bad he might also believe that Bush caused 9/11 and money from the KKK is ok (Who is he Robert Byrd?)

He’s like Perot with a few loose screws, no pie charts, and the interwebs.

Rbastid on December 6, 2009 at 1:49 AM

I’m no Paulnut but even I think the Fed should be audited.

So many secrets, so many trillions…. something shady is going on.

Yakko77 on December 6, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Ron Paul 2012

Spathi on December 6, 2009 at 1:57 AM

Palin signed off on all of McCain’s stupidity.

So, a running mate (not the captain of the ship or “decider”) should contradict the top of the ticket? Hmm? What’s she supposed to do run a parallel campaign with the top of the ticket.

I sure hope Ron Paul picks a running mate who will say the exact opposite of whatever policy goals he might outline.

Sharr on December 6, 2009 at 2:20 AM

Which is exactly why I have supported the entry of Gary Johnson. A real small government fiscal conservative with proven credentials, who does not envision some nanny state, but more of a live and let live ideal where the federal government is as small as possible.

Like traditional Republicans used to believe. Now all too many seem to be for big government as long as it encodes the right values into law and is more of a church adjunct.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 2:21 AM

Palin signed off on all of McCain’s stupidity. She deep-sixed her own credibility by toting the company line:

http://washingtonindependent.com/68578/yes-palin-backed-the-bailouts

Pitchforker on December 6, 2009 at 12:17 AM

That article you cited claims that the young lady Norah O’Donnell questioned at the Palin book signing was a “political activist:” she wasn’t.
I know that girl on Twitter: she’s a very smart 17-year-old named Jackie Seal.
That’s right–she’s in high school.

And I have never-EVER-heard Sarah Palin back the bailout.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 4:17 AM

Here is a picture of Palin at one of her book tour speeches.

That kid looks horrified.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Wow, just wow. It takes a special kind of dipshit to go after her kids.

I think it’s great she takes Trig everywhere. She’s done the same with all of her kids. Used to pack ‘em up when she drove across Alaska campaigning. It’s a better education than any school.

Loser.

gary4205 on December 6, 2009 at 4:28 AM

Ron Paul has a lot of great ideas but I don’t think he’ll ever be elected the White House.

Time for the Paulnuts to look for another younger more charismatic leader with his ideas.

Crux Australis on December 6, 2009 at 4:28 AM

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 12:36 AM

Link, please, to this alleged transcript of the perky one and Palin.
I don’t believe it.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 4:32 AM

Boxy-Brown nails it repeatedly (much like Tiger).

My take is that the ronulans are mentally ill and suffer from the same messiah worship the obamabots do.

Forget that he’s an economic fraud, a Truther, a neo-nazi lover, and a surrender monkey. He’s the only man who can save America. (roll eyes)
You see, I watched them flood polls and then when he won or did well thanks to the skewed response, they actually believed he had momentum and a chance at winning. But they’re not nuts or anything. Noooooot at all.

Hard Right on December 6, 2009 at 5:02 AM

We don’t need to be auditing the Fed… we need to be ELIMINATING IT.

CC

CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM

American politics needs colorful independent politicians like Ron Paul. He is positively barmy on some issues but on others he is spot on and a often a lone sane voice.

lexhamfox on December 6, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Someone makes sense!
+100

BobAnthony on December 6, 2009 at 7:13 AM

For those who want to eliminate the Fed, here’s my question — do you want the minarchist solution of competitive currencies, the banana republic solution of democratized monetary policy, or a Friedman-esque x-percent growth rule?

I’m not assuming there will be agreement even among backers of the idea. Take some time to think about it, the answer is important.

DrSteve on December 6, 2009 at 7:13 AM

We don’t need to be auditing the Fed… we need to be ELIMINATING IT.

CC

CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM

+1,000

It will be tough though I will admit, especially with friends of foreign bankers, namely the bigshots like Senator Kohl (Milwaukee Bucks owner) in the Senate.

Must give DeMint credit for doing a Senate version of HR-1207 and yes to Sanders for trying to put a hold on Herr Bernanke’s re-nomnination

BobAnthony on December 6, 2009 at 7:15 AM

I’d like to see Sarah Palin run for president and announce that, if elected, she would make Ron Paul Fed Secretary.

Kafir on December 6, 2009 at 7:25 AM

you know what Ron Paul brings to the table? people who actually read up on a topic. The Paulnuts that I know have a firm grasp on why they want to audit the Fed. The know what the Federal Reserve is & how it was created.

meanwhile, my school teacher friend didn’t know, as of yesterday, that global warming had been de-bunked. Because she views only MSM.

so I like the Paulnuts for their study of the issues.

kelley in virginia on December 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM

an O/T about global warming debunking:

go to PatriotRoom.com & read the article about how the CIA thought in 1974 that the earth was cooling. a document to that effect was found in Britain & is being published there today.

kelley in virginia on December 6, 2009 at 8:13 AM

And I have never-EVER-heard Sarah Palin back the bailout.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 4:17 AM

Jenfidel: Thankyou for weighing in,I watched the entire
Presidential election,and as far as I know,Sarah
Cuda never backed the bailout to my recollection!!

And,this brings up a point about Sarah Palins
credibility.There are two words that define Sarah,

“Trust but, Verify”.————————-:)

canopfor on December 6, 2009 at 8:17 AM

“‘The Ron Paul bill is incredibly dangerous,’ said Mishkin, who is now a Columbia University professor, in a Bloomberg Radio interview. ‘It is remarkable the kind of attacks that are occurring on Fed independence.’…

So, auditing books is dangerous? Better tell the IRS, dipstick !

Jeff2161 on December 6, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Hopefully, if Sarah has a brain in her head (which she does!), she’ll run as far from Ron Paul as she can get!
He’s a loony–he’s invested in gold trading companies (so he pushes the gold standard), he’s an anti-Semite and he’s also the best friend of Storm Front and David Duke.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM

i would like to see Sarah Palin as President & announce that she is appt’ing Dick Cheney as Director of CIA. Then we’d get our spying up to speed again.

kelley in virginia on December 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM

No one has better captured the sense of Main Street outrage over secret insider deals and Wall Street bonuses.

Since no other politicians are truly upset;gee, what a crazy, wild-eyed fool…/sarc

Jeff2161 on December 6, 2009 at 8:24 AM

He’s a loony–he’s invested in gold trading companies (so he pushes the gold standard), he’s an anti-Semite and he’s also the best friend of Storm Front and David Duke.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM

Kind of a conservative Obama?

Jeff2161 on December 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Kind of a conservative Obama?

Jeff2161 on December 6, 2009 at 8:26 AM

In a way, yes.
When it comes to their approach to foreign policy and their disdain for American exceptionalism, they’re basically exactly alike..almost as if both of them were pro-Arab/pro-Muslim.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 8:33 AM

you know what Ron Paul brings to the table? people who actually read up on a topic.

Sorry, but my idea of reading up on a topic doesn’t consist of going solely to LewRockwell.com or listening to Alex Jones.
The Paultards only read things that enforce their warped view of things.

The Paulnuts that I know have a firm grasp on why they want to audit the Fed. The know what the Federal Reserve is & how it was created.

Any American can research, read and learn about the Fed if they so desire; it’s not limited to Paultards.

so I like the Paulnuts for their study of the issues.

kelley in virginia on December 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM

To repeat, every American citizen should take it upon themselves to study the issues.

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM

DrSteve on December 6, 2009 at 7:13 AM

IMO we’ve dug a hole.

We have a choice between elected and accountable Politicians running the currency, which gets politics into it.

OR, we hav an unelected private group who is UNACCOUNTABLE doin it, with their OWN agendas and politics involved.

At least a Politician has to Appear to care what he does is good for the country… a private Banker does not…

And besides, for me this is a Constitutional Issue… without gerrymandering word meaning, how can Congress give up their Power, and RESPONSIBILITY, to coin money to a PRIVATE Company?

Romeo13 on December 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Paul’s Bill deserves every responsible American’s support.

Given that Bernanke and Dodd oppose it, you know where the dividing line is.

maverick muse on December 6, 2009 at 9:44 AM

The Fed is already widely perceived as politicized, having (allegedly) twice created bubbles, (allegedly) on behalf of current administrations. I don’t recall Volcker’s being called a political appointee to the same degree as Greenspan or Bernanke, perhaps because his anti-inflation, high-rate policies were contrary to Reagan’s short term political interest when they were enacted.
Fed meetings are actually more transparent than they used to be , but not enough to counteract the notion that Helicopter Ben is literally papering over our financial problems with a blizzard of Confederate-quality greenbacks. Volcker played the stern country doctor to better effect, at least before Obama turned him into an aging stage prop.
Ron Paul and the Ayn Rand wing of the conservative movement simply don’t trust the Fed and its “Great Moderation,” which they regard as a drug-induced hallucination. They want the US to go cold turkey, and are willing to bet it won’t kill the patient. There is no way a mere Fed “audit” will address that issue.

Seth Halpern on December 6, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 8:42 AM

Sorry, but my idea of reading up on a topic doesn’t consist of going solely to LewRockwell.com or listening to Alex Jones. The Paultards only read things that enforce their warped view of things.

You’re sounding extremist yourself; as if “going solely to…only read things that enforce their warped view” applies to every Libertarian or ultra conservative American or moderate Independent who finds a mutual point of intersection with Rep. Ron Paul.

Leave Trutherism out of the following discussion. And do not think that I “like” Alex Jones’ blustering mantras.

You eschew Alex Jones all together, leaving yourself unable even AFTER THE FACT to grant him relevance where he’s been accurate, for example regarding his early assessment of the New World Order that is well regarded by today’s media accounts. Perhaps I am mistaken, but Mr. Jones does not profess to be a prophet, but rather sees himself a whistle blower. He is not the most educated person; neither is he wrong about everything. You’d have to study him to know, and you obviously have a personal aversion to that effort. So think twice about who it is that only reads what conforms to preconceptions.

It’s just a thought.

/And morons need not pile on regarding the tiff between Jones and Malkin. I saw the video which actually shows Malkin’s friend setting the stage which she entered in order to confront Jones with her own entourage in a power play. It was Jones’ peace rally that Malkin crashed. Sure, she had the right to show up. She failed to answer his question, falling back on her popularity for cover at the end of the video. Bad form all around. I understand that Alex Jones had the balls to apologize.

maverick muse on December 6, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Paul is a bargain-basement Jefferson for our time

And a 911 TRUTHER? Yea, just like Jefferson.

Ron Paul is attacking hard on the economic side though so give him credit for that. For most of his domestic views, he is nuttier than a Planter’s warehouse.

dthorny on December 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM

There is no way a mere Fed “audit” will address that issue.

Seth Halpern on December 6, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Do nothing. Require no accounting. It will fix itself? It will never be corrected? All is lost?

maverick muse on December 6, 2009 at 10:10 AM

The US treasury is so far at an extreme, belong to global interests and no longer fulfilling its purpose, the only way to a moderate course that functions with any resemblance of tradition is via the opposite extreme of literal exactitude.

maverick muse on December 6, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Statements like this blow my mind:

“I don’t agree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy ideas, but on economics BLAH BLAH BLAH…”

RON PAUL IS A 9/11 TRUTHER!! END OF STORY!!!

He is an embarrassment to the Republican party. Why does he somehow get to be the poster boy for fiscal conservatism? Are you telling me that there aren’t any conservatives who aren’t ANTI-SEMITIC NUTBAGS that want smaller government?! Why don’t we give them a platform and let this laughingstock just fade away with all of his idiot followers?

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM

SIX SigSauers?

Sapwolf on December 5, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Pfffft! Sig Sauer indeed. I like my accurized government model.

Lanceman on December 5, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I prefer my .50AE Desert Eagle. It tends to get the point across very nicely.

Wolftech on December 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Please show me quotes from Ron Paul proving he is a truther.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 4:32 AM

Are you some sort of mental deficient? Can you not search for the exchange on google or any of the other search websites?

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Jenfidel on December 6, 2009 at 4:32 AM

And of course you don’t believe it, because you block anything negative about Palin out of your head and project your views on her, the same thing Obama supporters did to him. You are the type of person that would follow her no matter what she does.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM

LOL…

The things some of you people want to believe about Paul — you look positively unhinged.

FYI kids, it’s not just “Ron Paul’s foreign policy.” It’s the whole libertarian faction, and then some. And did you call it scary and dangerous and don the Depends® when Bush annihilated Gore on the Democrats’ feckless foreign interventionism and the folly of nation-building?

Just admit it: From top to bottom, the GOP is no longer a small government, conservative party that has any interest in defending the Constitution or preserving the republic. The GOP is the party of Big Spending, Big Government Bush. Embrace the suck!

Prolonging the War is a “Threat to Our National Security”

…the director of U.S. national intelligence, retired Admiral Dennis Blair, said in February that the economic crisis was the biggest national security threat to the United States…

And – contrary to common beliefs – economists say that prolonged wars increase unemployment, shrink the economy, and cause rather than solve recessions.

U.S. intelligence officials have concluded there are only about 100 al Qaeda fighters in the entire country…

With 100,000 troops in Afghanistan at an estimated yearly cost of $30 billion, it means that for every one al Qaeda fighter, the U.S. will commit 1,000 troops and $300 million a year.

[...]
…a leading advisor to the U.S. military – the very hawkish Rand Corporation – released a study in 2008 called “How Terrorist Groups End: Lessons for Countering al Qa’ida”. The report confirms what experts have been saying for years: the war on terror is actually weakening national security.

As a press release about the study states:

“Terrorists should be perceived and described as criminals, not holy warriors, and our analysis suggests that there is no battlefield solution to terrorism.”

Go team!

Rae on December 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM

gary4205 on December 6, 2009 at 4:28 AM

She is using her kid as a prop. Its pretty sickening. And im not “going after her kids”. Believe me, you would know if someone was going after her kids.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

What is interesting to me, in this thread…

It really points out how many people personify issues, which is EXACTLY what the left, using Alinsky’s rules, wants you to do.

Instead of looking and researching the Issue itself, you go off about Ron Paul… and since he’s a nut, and he believes it, it must be insane to think that way about a certain issue.

Its the same thing with the Birther meme… because there are some idiots who have been made the “spokesmen” who are idiots (and yes, they are)… and since the question of whether a Dual Citizen can be President is lumped in with the real “birthers”… the question gets dismissed as insane…

Or like the Palin and antiPalin folks… if’n she happens to be on one side of a specific issue, you are suddenly for or against that issue, depending on what Palin believes (or at least that is what you constantly post about).

Think for yourselves folks… I currently have access to more information that Research folks had 30 years ago. Think and research for yourselves…

Romeo13 on December 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Like traditional Republicans used to believe. Now all too many seem to be for big government as long as it encodes the right values into law and is more of a church adjunct.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 2:21 AM

Ahem. While traditional Republicans believe in individual rights, they also believe in a strong federal government to guarantee those rights. It’s why the Republicans were against slavery, for the Union, and wrote the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments. As for church, I’m all for “the free exercise thereof” — which means that I shouldn’t have to support someone elses’ “private right to an abortion” with my tax dollars or a required surcharge on my healthcare payments.

unclesmrgol on December 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM

daesleeper on December 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM

I don’t hate anyone. I do distrust people who believe in God to begin with, because if they think that there is some imaginary being watching their every action, they can justify almost any action. Bush did it with the Iraq war. Said that God told him it was A-ok. I prefer my politicians to justify their policies based on facts and real world conditions, not on the supposed whims of invisible beings.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Im not saying Russia didn’t do it, but zeroing in on the web server that leaked the emails means absolutely nothing. Its like people have never heard of proxy’s before. I can tell you sure as Sh!t that the Russians would be using proxies outside of Russia to do any sort of hack, as would anyone who was going to be doing illegal activity on the web.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

ugh, wrong thread, disregard above.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Ron Paul is a kook and there is no way I would take his advice on much of anything.

Terrye on December 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

A disastrous ticket for 2012 would be Huckabee/Ron Paul.

A winning ticket for 2012 would be Romney/Palin.

Conservative Samizdat on December 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

We don’t need to be auditing the Fed… we need to be ELIMINATING IT.

CC

CapedConservative on December 6, 2009 at 6:32 AM

Baby steps…baby steps….

Tim Burton on December 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM

A disastrous ticket for 2012 would be Huckabee/Ron Paul.

Huckabee-Paul? Wha…? Huck told PuffHo that libertarianism is a bigger threat to the country than liberalism.

A winning ticket for 2012 would be Romney/Palin.

Sounds about right for the Bush GOP. I’ve no doubt the ineducable Stupid Party will go with the dog-abusing stiff and also-ran Mandate Mitt RomneyCare. Then we can all enjoy your four more years of Obamanation!

Go team!

Rae on December 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Independent Federal Reserve?

Beyond question? Beyond anyone able to shut it down? The Constitution did not set up the Federal Reserve as an independent branch of government. As head of the NY Fed Geithner was instrumental in easy money policies leading up to the housing market crash, banking problems attendant to that and not holding financial institutions to better standards than those set by Congress. Yes, by Congress.

Then he, somehow, is magically the only man who can save us from the disaster… that he helped create. Hmmmm… just how long did he know the folks running the Obama campaign? He proved to be spendthrifty enough cooking up TARP to pay off some companies, force others to merge and then help keep entities quiet about the Fed’s role in things. Just how politically well connected were those companies getting ‘help’? And just what was the role of the Fed during that time from first proposed bailout before the election to working on it afterwards? Too bad no one bothered to ask Geithner that in the Senate… but then some folks were told to hush up, like Bank of America.

I agree with Paul that the minimum that the Fed needs is an audit. The Fed, itself, has proven incapable of understanding the economy enough in the 1920′s and 1990-2008 timeframe that it is now an institution that is suspect of not only political favoritism, but of using its power to push unsound fiscal policy during good times so that when bad times come they are made worse by the actions of the Fed. It was supposed to safeguard the value of the dollar. The dollar has devalued since it was created by over 80%.

The Fed needs to go.

We survived for over 80 years with no National Bank or Federal Reserve, and apparently did well without it and the dollar kept its value.

I only have a couple of points of agreement with Ron Paul, the Fed is one of them and a rare point of agreement.

ajacksonian on December 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM

If the Palinistas here have adequately defended the Governor’s statement (below) on the bailout, I have not seen it. Whether or not she had to stay on the same page as McCain during the campaign is immaterial. She said this in August of 2009 (when the book was written). She could have explained that the bailouts were not necessary but Republicans should have explained why to combat the perception they were not responsive, but she did not. The implication is that they should have voted for the bailout. There is no other way to read it. Gary Johnson 2012.

“The House of Representatives rejected a Bush-backed economic bailout plan in a vote in which two-thirds of Republicans voted no. The impression this made on the electorate was not helpful to our cause. Millions of Americans were poised to go bankrupt or lose their savings, and the perception was that Republicans had failed to respond.”

Firefly_76 on December 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM

So Palins signing off on McCain is a bad thing? You can decide after watching John fighting for the little guy in all his mavericky mavrickness!

sonnyspats1 on December 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

You eschew Alex Jones all together, leaving yourself unable even AFTER THE FACT to grant him relevance where he’s been accurate, for example regarding his early assessment of the New World Order that is well regarded by today’s media accounts. Perhaps I am mistaken, but Mr. Jones does not profess to be a prophet, but rather sees himself a whistle blower. He is not the most educated person; neither is he wrong about everything. You’d have to study him to know, and you obviously have a personal aversion to that effort. So think twice about who it is that only reads what conforms to preconceptions.

The same Alex Jones that rants how we are all going to FEMA camps in UN rail cars, that the government did 9/11, and that the airliners and military aircraft over our heads are intentionally and secretly spraying us with deadly chemicals, and somehow we should put for the effort to study him?

The guy has no credibility, he is a whack job extrordinaire. Just because maybe he actually had a decent point to make, does not mean we should waste time wading through the rest of his garbage, hoping that something actually worthwhile pops out.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

grrrrrrr, the quotes are backwards, I need to do preview more often since there is not a way to go back and change.

You eschew Alex Jones all together, leaving yourself unable even AFTER THE FACT to grant him relevance where he’s been accurate, for example regarding his early assessment of the New World Order that is well regarded by today’s media accounts. Perhaps I am mistaken, but Mr. Jones does not profess to be a prophet, but rather sees himself a whistle blower. He is not the most educated person; neither is he wrong about everything. You’d have to study him to know, and you obviously have a personal aversion to that effort. So think twice about who it is that only reads what conforms to preconceptions.

The same Alex Jones that rants how we are all going to FEMA camps in UN rail cars, that the government did 9/11, and that the airliners and military aircraft over our heads are intentionally and secretly spraying us with deadly chemicals, and somehow we should put for the effort to study him?

The guy has no credibility, he is a whack job extrordinaire. Just because maybe he actually had a decent point to make, does not mean we should waste time wading through the rest of his garbage, hoping that something actually worthwhile pops out.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 1:47 PM

maverick muse on December 6, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Don’t feed the Whiskey Tango.

JohnGalt23 on December 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM

I first heard Jones on shortwave just at the begining of the Iraq invasion. He had someone on who claimed that the CIA sent him into Iraq to plant sarin cannisters with remote control detonators. Jones asserted that the Bush Admin. was going to release gas on our troops to justify removing Saddam, and as always Jones had documentation.

Pelayo on December 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Hey Spathi, thphilli, or any other Paultard out there, answer this question:

What caused the Twin Towers to fall?

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

What caused the Twin Towers to fall?

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

It was a combination of Islamic fundamentalists’ irrationality, foreign policy blowback, and a truly pathetic state of national defense.

See, the criminal clowns on both sides of the aisle were, and are, far too busy strangling American industries and running all of our lives than to actually attend to one of the few essential and Constitutionally mandated responsibilities of the federal government.

Rae on December 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Rae on December 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I rest my case. Thank You.

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 4:39 PM

The same Alex Jones that rants how we are all going to FEMA camps in UN rail cars, that the government did 9/11, and that the airliners and military aircraft over our heads are intentionally and secretly spraying us with deadly chemicals, and somehow we should put for the effort to study him?

The guy has no credibility, he is a whack job extrordinaire. Just because maybe he actually had a decent point to make, does not mean we should waste time wading through the rest of his garbage, hoping that something actually worthwhile pops out.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 1:47 PM

He is worse than that. Jones is a con artist exploiting drug usrs and other people given to paranoia for money. Think about it-according to Jones there’s a vast conspiracy of satanic masons who secretly run the world and kill anyone who “discovers the truth” …except for one fat Internet disc jockey who has exposed them for years?

Rob Taylor on December 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM

i would like to see Sarah Palin as President & announce that she is appt’ing Dick Cheney as Director of CIA. Then we’d get our spying up to speed again.

kelley in virginia on December 6, 2009 at 8:23 AM

+1,000,000,000,000!

gary4205 on December 6, 2009 at 6:02 PM

She is using her kid as a prop. Its pretty sickening. And im not “going after her kids”. Believe me, you would know if someone was going after her kids.

thphilli on December 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM

You are simply evil. The lowest of the low. Sub-human filth.

You honestly think Sarah is using her son as a prop. People like you deserve nothing but being shamed out of society. (and a good old fashioned ass whippin’)

gary4205 on December 6, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Ron Paul is one of the biggest fruitcake frauds in U.S. Politics yet even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
Article 1, Section 8, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution;
“To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;”
Congress has the ability to audit the Fed at any time and they don’t need any law passed to do so.
The problem is that Congress abdicated its responsibility in the first place which is ALSO unconstitutional.
There’s that pesky CONSTITUTION again that leftists and RINOs hate so much.

nelsonknows on December 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Here come all of the 911 troofer scumbags, out from under their bridges. Why don’t you idiots go back to molesting goats like the trolls that you are.

nelsonknows on December 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM

He is worse than that. Jones is a con artist exploiting drug usrs and other people given to paranoia for money. Think about it-according to Jones there’s a vast conspiracy of satanic masons who secretly run the world and kill anyone who “discovers the truth” …except for one fat Internet disc jockey who has exposed them for years?

I once watched a public access show of Alex Jones, and he would show an newspaper article on the screen, then quickly take it off and then he would try and tell you was about and how it supposedly proves all the NWO conspiracy stuff.

However, I can read quite fast, and fast enough to see that what he was saying the article stated, was often not at all what he was saying it was. Interesting how so many of these people peddling conspiracies, often have websites, books, and magazines to sell too.

firepilot on December 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM

This coming from Ron Paul the LIAR who said earmarks were illegal then took $300 MILLION in earmarks in 3 years.
Ron Paul was exposed as being a 911 troofer somewhere…where was that?…… oh yeah, right here on Hotair!

nelsonknows on December 6, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Ron Paul is an idiot on foreign affairs. And considering the fact that foreign affairs is one of the few Constitutional duties granted the federal government, he cannot ever be considered a valid candidate. He would have to reconcile the word “transient” in regard to the Islamist threat and it just won’t work.

Connie on December 7, 2009 at 12:13 AM

I rest my case.

stefanite on December 6, 2009 at 4:39 PM

What case might that be? That you’re a Buhstard who prefers to believe “they hate us for our freedoms,” refusing to even consider the idea that there might be a little more to it than that?

Rae on December 7, 2009 at 1:42 AM

Bush did it with the Iraq war. Said that God told him it was A-ok.

thphilli

Seems you have your own invisible being whispering nonsense in your ear.

xblade on December 7, 2009 at 1:49 AM

there might be a little more to it than that
Rae on December 7, 2009 at 1:42 AM

That’s right, don’t forget about da JOOOOOOOOOOs !!!1111!!1!!

stefanite on December 7, 2009 at 7:28 AM

That’s right, don’t forget about da JOOOOOOOOOOs !!!1111!!1!!

stefanite on December 7, 2009 at 7:28 AM

Don’t be ridiculous.

Rae on December 7, 2009 at 9:12 AM

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