Video: “Hardball” takes on Palin’s birth certificate comments. What could go wrong?

posted at 8:01 pm on December 4, 2009 by Allahpundit

The money line is Buchanan asserting that she did the smart thing politically since Birthers are, after all, a chunk of the GOP base and all she really defended was their right to ask questions. Ace made a similar point today: Politics is politics, so if you have to toss a small bone to your fringies now and then to keep them focused on your broader agenda, so be it. Eh, I don’t buy it. I agree that being snotty to your fringies is dumb and likely to lose you votes, but there are ways to tactfully disagree with them. E.g., “It’s great to see the public intent on holding the president to the letter of the Constitution, but I think the certificate of live birth satisfies the natural-born requirement.” She’s not going to lose anyone’s vote with a polite rejection like that (except maybe Alan Keyes’s), especially since no other GOP candidate will end up endorsing Birtherism. She might, however, lose votes for having given the answer she did, especially if she wins the nomination and Democrats start pitching to centrists by calling her a crank. Why play to the base when she, more than any other Republican, already has the base — and Birthers — in her hip pocket? It’s moderates she needs, not “true conservatives.”

If this is a smart political move, then conceivably it’d also be a smart political move and nothing for the right to get exercised over if, say, Biden or Al Gore or some other top Democrat started head-patting Trig Truthers like Sullivan. The issue ultimately goes to her credibility, so in theory the more doubt they can sow about who Trig’s mother really is, the more discredited she’ll be. And yet, no liberal of any greater prominence than Crazy Andy himself ever touts the Trig Truth crap, mainly because (a) the science is, to any rational person, settled, and (b) they’d stand to lose more politically by encouraging the theory than they’d gain. Remember when Maurice Hinchey went on MSNBC a few days ago and asserted that Bush deliberately let Bin Laden escape? Even a Bush-hating nutroots hero like David Shuster instantly flipped out on him. Conspiracies simply don’t play well in the mainstream, even on the DNC’s pet channel. (Well, before 8 p.m., at least.)

The key point isn’t whether voters have the right to ask questions but whether a question is fair after a certain amount of evidence has been provided. That’s where Palin got in trouble last night, I think. Of course Truthers have the right to be skeptical about 9/11, but does anyone think it’s fair that they still are? Where you come down on the Birtherism debate depends on whether you think that level of evidence has been reached yet, and Palin’s initial comments to Humphreys — it’s a “fair question,” it’s “fair game,” potentially something worth raising in a debate — made it sound like she didn’t. Calling it a “stupid conspiracy” later on Facebook clarified that she did. Controversy over, let’s hope.

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Is it fair to ask if Allahpundit leans Democrat or Republican?

Just askin’

meerkat on December 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Controversy over, let’s hope.

Let’s hope the controversy is over… but here’s another snarky post to generate comments.

Yeah.

cs89 on December 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Could you hate her any more than you already do? No one, not even MSNBC, is covering this more heavily than you.

Did she step in it a little? Maybe a little… but no real harm done, particularly after her facebook posting later on.

The “teachable moment” for her needs to be this: just because you are on a “conservative” radio/tv show doesn’t mean you can let your guard down. She probably should scope out some of these smaller-name personalities before she agrees to interviews with them. I had never heard of the guy before, but apparently he is a big birther…. had she researched him and found that out, she could have just avoided the whole thing to begin with by declining the interview request.

BPD on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

The 3rd troll shift was called in early, fortunately they are union so the time will paid at 1.5 with an extra hour break.

Bishop on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Is it fair to ask if Allahpundit leans Democrat or Republican?

Just askin’

Republican. Sorry my three thousand posts criticizing Obama hasn’t met your evidence threshold yet.

Let’s hope the controversy is over… but here’s another snarky post to generate comments.

Which part of it was snarky?

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

(a) the science is, to any rational person, settled, and

Heh.

Weight of Glory on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Could you hate her any more than you already do? No one, not even MSNBC, is covering this more heavily than you.

Before this post, I’d written four sentences on this subject, which has been at the top of Memeorandum all day.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

yeah here’s a big issue, let’s have a closer look and see how many columns and comments this Palin moment will generate. I have less of a problem with birthers than the Palinoids.

exceller on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

For all the hooplah on elite liberals bashing Palin as dumb, and uneducated…

There certainly is a host of people–especially in the LSM–that do not know the difference between “rightfully” and “rightly”.

Enoxo on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Republican. Sorry my three thousand posts criticizing Obama hasn’t met your evidence threshold yet.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

that’s not on the purity test.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Wow… guess I missed something last night.

Palin = Birther?

MeatHeadinCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

that’s not on the purity test.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Evidently.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:09 PM

More marginalia from Hot Air’s resident gossip queen.

KH15 on December 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Well it was interesting hearing the views flushed out. I think Ace is absolutely on the money.

Spirit of 1776 on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

While we have the right to ask about where a president was born, it pales in comparison to the right of a man or woman in uniform, charged with the duty to protect and defend the Constitution, and you and me, to get an answer to that question.

TXUS on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

You know…

Maybe people would stop asking the question if so many of his records weren’t sealed.

Kindergarten records
Punahou school records
Occidental College records
Columbia University records
Columbia thesis
Harvard Law School records
Harvard Law Review articles
Scholarly articles from the University of Chicago
Passport(s)
Medical records
Files from his years as an Illinois state senator
Illinois State Bar Association records
Any baptism records
Obama/Dunham marriage license
Obama/Dunham divorce documents
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Adoption records
Long form birth certificate

Seven Percent Solution on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

DON’T CARE.

I am starting to get sick of APs trolling for traffic and Ed’s squishiness. This site is a far cry from what it was only 2 years ago.

Blarg the Destroyer on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Is it fair to ask if Allahpundit leans Democrat or Republican?

Just askin’

meerkat on December 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Republican.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Not sure if that’s what meerkat was asking, but now meerkat knows.

MeatHeadinCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Before this post, I’d written four sentences on this subject, which has been at the top of Memeorandum all day.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Sorry… meant to say covering this more critically than you… not heavily.

BPD on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

More marginalia from Hot Air’s resident gossip queen.

KH15 on December 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Aren’t you going to accuse me of being scared of her? That’s the default take on any criticism of Palin, no?

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I keep hearing about how the moderates have to be appeased. One can’t offend the moderates. What about the moderates?”‘

Anyone care to answer this question? Where were those freakin’ moderates when THEIR candidate was running against Obama? That IS what was claimed about McCain. He was the MODERATE choice, right?

Were they throwing a bone to the conservatives? Or were they helping to trash Sarah Palin?

Were they worried about losing votes among conservatives who may just not show up? Or were they helping to trash Sarah Palin?

Were they busy dishing the dirt on Obama’s many shady dealings, shrouded history or openly communist pals? Or were they helping to trash Sarah Palin?

Hyunchback on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I’ve always liked Buchanan. Nice job, and I totally agree.

BTW, unbelievable that CM and the woman hadn’t heard the Huckabee explanation. It always strikes me as bizarre when “news” shows have missed the news.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

And yet, no liberal of any greater prominence than Crazy Andy himself ever touts the Trig Truth crap,

If we include the media in the Liberal camp,…

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/13/palin-battles-anchorage-daily-news-over-trig-trutherism/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092400797.html

cs89 on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Is it fair to ask if Allahpundit leans Democrat or Republican?

Just askin’

Republican. Sorry my three thousand posts criticizing Obama hasn’t met your evidence threshold yet.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Glad to know you at least “lean Republican”

Keep practicing

meerkat on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Nope, not g’wan do it, I got sucked into the Sarah birther thing last night.

John the Libertarian on December 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Seven Percent Solution on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Does that make 7% a Birther?

Holger on December 4, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Aren’t you going to accuse me of being scared of her? That’s the default take on any criticism of Palin, no?

No.

KH15 on December 4, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Oh, Buchanan is right about Palin. She was tired and didn’t pick her words carefully enough, but there’s absolutely no political smarts to being rude to birthers. Nobody but a fool wouldn’t use this pre-campaign time to firm up her base.

She’s not in a campaign, even, yet. At that point, she can deal with the swing voters.

First, firm up your base. That’s classic.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Sorry… meant to say covering this more critically than you… not heavily.

BPD on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Not true at all. Just click around on Memeorandum.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:15 PM

This site is a far cry from what it was only 2 years ago.

Blarg the Destroyer on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Absolutely! It’s better than ever!

John the Libertarian on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Republican. Sorry my three thousand posts criticizing Obama hasn’t met your evidence threshold yet.

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

that’s not on the purity test.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:08 PM

The only time Allah entertains truly impure, non-Republican thoughts is when Meagan McCain is tying her shoes (or jogging, breathing hard, mounting him, etc…).

29Victor on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

that’s not on the purity test.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:08PM

Yep. And that dumba$$ “purity” test is not going to help get one single conservative elected to office.

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

I agree with most of that analysis. Maybe it’s the lawyer in me but the quantum of evidence for and against the birther question, to me, falls heavily on the side of “against”.

But I will take issue with AP’s analogy to Trig Trutherism. If the analogy was one made only for purposes of political fallout for throwing a bone to the conspiracy, then so be it.

But to the extent AP’s drawing a factual analogy between the two it is absurd on a bewildering level. Trig Trutherism is nothing more than a vehicle for expressing vile hatred of Sarah Palin.

Birtherism at least has some semblance of evidentiary support, even if it’s largely circumstantial and by omission. Plus, birtherism is fueled, in part, by Obama’s own failure to be forthcoming…as much with his past aside from his birth as his birthplace. In that respect Obama and Palin aren’t even in the same league.

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Aren’t you going to accuse me of being scared of her? That’s the default take on any criticism of Palin, no?

Oh no. Not remotely.

That’s a Rush line about the left on who they try to destroy or gameplan against. No one is attributing the same motives to you. At least I don’t think they are.

Spirit of 1776 on December 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Palin has given birth to 5 kids.

Does that make her a birther ?

Also, is it true that Allahpundit does all these Palin posts with one eye on the Sitemeter hoping for a little “traffic Christmas ” ?

meerkat on December 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Which part of it was snarky?

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

How about this part?

If this is a smart political move, then conceivably it’d also be a smart political move and nothing for the right to get exercised over if, say, Biden or Al Gore or some other top Democrat started head-patting Trig Truthers like Sullivan. The issue ultimately goes to her credibility, so in theory the more doubt they can sow about who Trig’s mother really is, the more discredited she’ll be. And yet, no liberal of any greater prominence than Crazy Andy himself ever touts the Trig Truth crap, mainly because (a) the science is, to any rational person, settled, and (b) they’d stand to lose more politically by encouraging the theory than they’d gain. Remember when Maurice Hinchey went on MSNBC a few days ago and asserted that Bush deliberately let Bin Laden escape? Even a Bush-hating nutroots hero like David Shuster instantly flipped out on him. Conspiracies simply don’t play well in the mainstream, even on the DNC’s pet channel. (Well, before 8 p.m., at least.)

cs89 on December 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM

That’s the default take on any criticism of Palin, no?

Allahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I thinking it`s you hate America or something like that. :) I like Palin a lot, but I`m seeing many are making her out to be conservatives own “lightworker.”

ThePrez on December 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM

DON’T CARE.

I am starting to get sick of APs trolling for traffic and Ed’s squishiness. This site is a far cry from what it was only 2 years ago.

Blarg the Destroyer on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

That’s why I usually just read, but don’t comment.

It’s a shame, because what I really like about Hot Air is the format. I find it very “user-friendly”, particularly the frequent updates. That said, I’d take fewer updates if it meant less trolling by a certain individual.

KH15 on December 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM

“It’s great to see the public intent on holding the president to the letter of the Constitution, but I think the certificate of live birth satisfies the natural-born requirement.”

It’s great to see the public intent on holding the government climate scientists to the letter of “good science”, but I think the graphs that the government constructed from the original – and since disposed of – data satisfies that the science is settled.

Buddahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Trig Trutherism is nothing more than a vehicle for expressing vile hatred of Sarah Palin.

Birtherism at least has some semblance of evidentiary support, even if it’s largely circumstantial and by omission. Plus, birtherism is fueled, in part, by Obama’s own failure to be forthcoming…as much with his past aside from his birth as his birthplace. In that respect Obama and Palin aren’t even in the same league.

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

You must not talk to the Truthers, then. They have entire blogs dedicating to proving she was never pregnant, just like the birthers.

And…..don’t get them started on how Sarah refuses to do a DNA test. *haha

But today’s pet conspiracy theory turns out to be that the secret service and Rogers are covering up to let the Salahis in and won’t admit it. Da dum.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

I think the larger point that Palin was making, since lost in the scuffle over the Birth Certificate, is that Obama got a pass from the media, from the political estaqblishment, and from the public. We never saw his school records, we never saw his medical records, his personal and professional associations were off limits for discussion, and the United States ended up electing an unintelligent, deceitful, far-left, anti-American bigot to the presidency. It was a national disgrace.

fitzsweetpea on December 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

2012 is a long time away…she may not even run. I am sure she will make other comments that we can parse before then.

d1carter on December 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Ah, well. There are also people who think Sarah Palin is Kent Hovind in a dress. That there are also people who think Sarah Palin is Orly Taitz shouldn’t come as any surprise.

Allahpundit will milk this until the screaming goes down. After a week, this will blow over, at which point the hyenas in the press will find a different pretext for snarling at Sarah. :-/

Aitch748 on December 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM

I took it that it was a comment on the double standard about the scrutiny she was held. That there were extraordinary demands on her to explain the most absurd allegations. If people had a right to do this to her, why not Obama? It seems to me that this is lost while putting too much focus on the specifics of what may or may not be.

It is the point that is the point. Not the example(s).

anuts on December 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Come on – MSNBC is reaching for ratings- some people never let go of old news, they just recycle it, even though it is not worth reporting with all the other issues going on- pure sensationalism.

wubu on December 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM

This site is a far cry from what it was only 2 years ago.

Blarg the Destroyer on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM

The site is fine. With the exception of a few stalwarts, the comments sure have gone downhill though.

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Allahpundit will milk this until the screaming goes down. After a week, this will blow over, at which point the hyenas in the press will find a different pretext for snarling at Sarah. :-/

Aitch748 on December 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM
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By that time Sarah will be even more financially independent.

meerkat on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Well, I’m frankly blown away that Chris Matthews hadn’t heard that Huckabee was on the View with an interview about the event. His description was like……so dated!

Don’t these guys have anyone doing research anymore?

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

You must not talk to the Truthers, then. They have entire blogs dedicating to proving she was never pregnant, just like the birthers.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Yeh and the 9/11 kooks have written books and produced films, what’s your point?

The evidence is qualitatively different, in my humble opinion.

But today’s pet conspiracy theory turns out to be that the secret service and Rogers are covering up to let the Salahis in and won’t admit it. Da dum.

Finally…something else to talk about.

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

But today’s pet conspiracy theory turns out to be that the secret service and Rogers are covering up to let the Salahis in and won’t admit it. Da dum.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

I remember all of the conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton. I can’t see how they did anything but help him. So I’m not sure why people who want President Obama to fail pursue this birther thing (except possibly for the same reason that Gore pursues the AGW thing).

29Victor on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

I took it that it was a comment on the double standard about the scrutiny she was held. That there were extraordinary demands on her to explain the most absurd allegations. If people had a right to do this to her, why not Obama? It seems to me that this is lost while putting too much focus on the specifics of what may or may not be.

It is the point that is the point. Not the example(s).

anuts on December 4, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Yeah… i noticed in the coverage on Hardball that they ignored the last portion of her comments, drawing a comparison to Trig Trutherism and how she seemed to lump the two together as conspiracy theories.

BPD on December 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM

My favorite part is where Chris Matthews is “chuckling” about Palin trying to have it both ways about what she said, when just the other night he was desperately trying to both distance himself from and get closer to his exact meaning of “enemy camp” and “rabble rousing“. Way to go Chrissy! Tell ya what, as soon as you figure out if the troops who die for your sorry saggy butt are on our side, Palin will try to be more “clear” with what she says. Mmm kay?

Weight of Glory on December 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM

As someone whos been with Hotair almost as long as ap well actually as long I signed up its first day. I have to agree the site is DEFINITELY more squishy and pandering then it was 3 years ago. I still want to know what happened to the Robert Spencer weekly Jihad watches and yes I miss the Vents with Michelle and Brian. But I guess its all about CHANGE huh AP.

Also Kirston Powers is HOT but she wont come over to the dark side,give it up AP lets focus on SE CUPP,and Kimberly GuiliFoyle on FOX hehehe

Kevin43 on December 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM

It seems to me that Sarah gets to play by her own set of rules, and that’s fine by me.

If she’s in the mix in 2012, we’ll be the better for it. Go Sarah! You tha man, woman.

P.S. Y’all need to quit pissin’ all over Allahpundit; he is nothing if not fair and evenhanded. If you consider the world in which he operates, it’s a miracle that he’s not a full-blown lib. Just sayin’.

hillbillyjim on December 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

they went to Alaska and did some research on sarah palin. that’s about it.

Ghoul aid on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I think the mistake she made was not being concise in what she meant. She seemed to mean, at least to me, that no one seemed to have any problem with the conspiracies about her so why would anybody have problems with conspiracies about Obama? But the way she said it made it sound as if she was endorsing it, hence the “correction” later on facebook.

clearbluesky on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

How about Mark Levin?
He and Sarah Palin both believe Obama was born in the US, but support citizens asking the question.
He just defended Sarah Palin on the radio and said “Why is it so difficult to produce a birth certificate? The one who looks stupid is the president for not presenting it.”

cubachi on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Allahpundit: It’s super funny to say Palin isn’t the mother of that child… but none of you better say a thing about Obama or I’ll scream!!!!1

tetriskid on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

It wasn’t the smartest thing to do, for the reasons AllahPagan noted. The legions of Palin-haters are going to shift into overdrive–just wait until the trolls get a whiff of this for examples

Politicians at the national level need to be adept at avoiding traps like this. Palin’s honesty is her most endearing quality but dodging this won’t detract from that very valuable quality. With this Mess, the Usual Suspects will drag her through their World of Crap again

She needs to learn to stick to the issues…..

Janos Hunyadi on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

.

.and yes I miss the Vents with Michelle and Brian.

I miss Bethany the most.

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

i think the last post allahpundit made about palin before this thing happened was the one in which he defended her against some lame canadian satire show.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I remember all of the conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton. I can’t see how they did anything but help him. So I’m not sure why people who want President Obama to fail pursue this birther thing (except possibly for the same reason that Gore pursues the AGW thing).

29Victor on December 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM

If you have 5 minutes someday, (and quick access to a shower and brillo pad after), check out the comments over at DKos on this topic. Many of them are unabashed about being self-described double agents for exactly that reason.

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Hey allahpundit – why the hell are you giving any kind of promotion or publicity to MSNBC and retarded libtard hacks like Chris Matthews? Especially after his recent comments!?!?

Matthews has pushed himself into the realm of irrelevancy by his comments. Being on a crappy network helps him in this effort, but he has done it.

Let him be irrelevant since its what he clearly wants so he can get out of the job sooner through some buyout of his contract where he’ll be replaced with someone worse.

JaqobJackson on December 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Hey people, know why AP hides underneath a burka to shoot spit-balls? I hear he once auditioned to play Bello the clown. oops sorry Michelle, might wanna reread his resume again.

julian on December 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM

cubachi on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

mark levin is awesome. period, end of story.

Ghoul aid on December 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM

If you consider the world in which he operates, it’s a miracle that he’s not a full-blown lib. Just sayin’.

hillbillyjim on December 4, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Perhaps.. but HotAir seems to turn slightly more progressive around 4:00 pm ET

BPD on December 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Tell ya what, as soon as you figure out if the troops who die for your sorry saggy butt are on our side, Palin will try to be more “clear” with what she says. Mmm kay?

Weight of Glory on December 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM


DING DING DING!!

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:28 PM

I am in total agreement with:

russcote on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM

SP certainly made NO mistake in making her statement; in fact, I agree with what she said. She didn’t come down on one side or the other; she just said the topic is valid. I agree that it is.

And, I’d love to see the mystery man in the White House unmasked. We learned everything there is to learn about George W. Bush; isn’t it time we knew the very same about Barry???

GoldenEagle4444 on December 4, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Im more interested in how Obama could afford to go to Columbia ,and then Harvard.What is that 250-350 k in total?Did he win scholarships?Did his family find a way to pay for that?Or,as a democratic congressman asserted(cant remember his name),did a Saudi pay his way?And if so,why?

theTarCzar on December 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

She was only here for like 5 minutes total!

Spirit of 1776 on December 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM

this is boring. can i start making blockquote pyramids again?

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM

I still want to know what happened to the Robert Spencer weekly Jihad watches and yes I miss the Vents with Michelle and Brian.

Well, WOT coverage everywhere is down if not nonexistent, it’s not unique to HA. And i liked the Vents too, but Headlines type links are good too and obviously popular with a lot of blog readers, see : Instapundit and Drudge.

clearbluesky on December 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Wow more advice for Sarah Palin. Maybe Palin will hire you or Ed if she decides to run. Whatever the two of you advise her to do she can then do the opposite. It is obvious that your political instincts and predictions concerning Palin’s future have been so far off base I would think the two of you would have giving up by now. From Ed’s comment that she would lose her platform without her title, and therfore have no voice. Or AP waiting for months on that “other shoe” to drop after her resignation. All that is ever accomplished is getting the hopes up of the many squishes and leftist that await the silver bullet they hope will finally finish her off.

chief on December 4, 2009 at 8:30 PM

According to the laws in effect in 1961 in Hawaii, a 17 year old American woman married to a Kenyan COULD NOT LEGALLY CONFER ANY AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP TO ANY CHILD SHE GAVE BIRTH TO ON FOREIGN SOIL.

That was the LAW in effect in 1961. Look it up.

When you realize how lax Hawaiian laws were in 1961 regarding who and when anyone could “officially” file a live birth, you can understand why the “Certificate of Live Birth” that BHO minions insist is the “real deal”, is no more valid proof of U.S. birth than a roll of “please don’t squeeze” Charmain toilet paper. It’s a HOAX!

BHO is a usurper. He’s NOT above the U.S. Constitution.

Anthropogenic Global Warming is a HOAX.

Ignorant saps are being suckered by this administration.

bannedbyhuffpo on December 4, 2009 at 8:31 PM

AP, you’re so convinced that Palin “got in trouble” with her comment. In whose world? I just don’t see the outrage. Relative to what she has already been through, I mean, you have to be kidding.

pugwriter on December 4, 2009 at 8:31 PM

She was only here for like 5 minutes total!

Spirit of 1776 on December 4, 2009 at 8:29 PM

What a great 5 minutes though!! I used to anticipate her vlog like a smitten teenager.

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I agree that being snotty to your fringies is dumb

I tell ya, there’s nothing like an atheist telling someone else they’re snotty…

StevefromMKE on December 4, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Populism……always flusters people.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:33 PM

The key point isn’t whether voters have the right to ask questions but whether a question is fair after a certain amount of evidence has been provided.

So are we going to ignore the fact that Democrats continue to insist that Bush did not win 200 election. And somehow, a man that doesn’t seem to support this nation, apologizes for it constantly, and has a suspicious birth cerificate cannot be questioned about it?

Right…..

IntheNet on December 4, 2009 at 8:33 PM

quitting and publishing a book are the sequential behaviors of someone moving on to relative obscurity in either radio or automotive sales.

that’s not a prediction, just what that usually amounts to.

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I have yet to hear a valid argument against the desire of America’s voters to know the history (school records, birth information and the rest) about our beloved Jug-eared Jesus.

What am I missing here?

hillbillyjim on December 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Can\’t spell FAP, FAP, FAP without AP.

ray on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

yeah, I miss Spencer’s blogging on the Q’uran. Wha happened?

John the Libertarian on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM

Show me an author of a million-selling book in the last fifty years who is now in “relative obscurity in either radio or automotive sales.”

Just one.

cs89 on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

In other words, why should BO be exempt from scrutiny? Hmmm?

hillbillyjim on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

I’ve always liked Buchanan. Nice job, and I totally agree.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

You like Herr Buchanan?
He wrote a book basically blaming Churchill for the Holocaust. He’s also an apologist for the Palestinians.
As a Jewish born Christian-soon to be Catholic Christian-who lost family at Babi Yar I find Buchanan and his “paleo-cons” to be beyond offensive.
Gov. Palin needs to run-not walk-from any support that Buchanan offers.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 4, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Will these nit wits who work for Hot Air and write this garbage please go back over to the White House and kiss the Messiah’s can! Gads – what stupid garbage. The Messiah has not said one honest thing out of any of his orifices – so we are supposed to believe that this Marxist was born in Hawaii – why? Because the lefties who run Hot Air are in the tank for him and hate Sarah Palin? Look – if people don’t believe you were born in the U.S. show them your birth certificate – end of story. He’s the president – he could call up the flunkies in Honolulu and say “Show them the damn Birth Certificate.” But he doesn’t. Why? Duh! Why don’t you lefties at Hot Air go back to Russia – doesn’t Pravda need some flunkies over there?

Cinday Blackburn on December 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM

Controversy over, let’s hope.

Fear the terrible, awesome lefty Jujutsu.

Stephen M on December 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM

yeah, I miss Spencer’s blogging on the Q’uran. Wha happened?

John the Libertarian on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Questions on Spencer have been like the call for BC. Unanswered.

Spirit of 1776 on December 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM

I like Sarah a lot; she reminds me of Reagan in several ways.

But I agree with Allah. She needs work on how to say stuff in a way that minimizes collateral damage. Anything she does to accredit the birther loonies is potentially harmful to her among regular folk.

Pavel on December 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Ace’s take on this is worth reading. Allah linked to it but here it is again.

Geochelone on December 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM

she did the smart thing politically

Controversy over, let’s hope.

Ms.Palin is a very successful author. All these rules for politicians? She doesnt work for the government any more does she? I swear shes pulling her detractors into her web. She may even be drawing in a few Republicans that didnt care for her at first. Those Republicans might even be swayed into thinking that Palin could be a successful candidate for the presidency. What do you think Allah?

canditaylor68 on December 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM

That was the LAW in effect in 1961. Look it up.

bannedbyhuffpo on December 4, 2009 at 8:31 PM

This is the internets. Links are better than “look it up” if you want to be taken seriously.

Buddahpundit on December 4, 2009 at 8:42 PM

AP, you’re so convinced that Palin “got in trouble” with her comment. In whose world? I just don’t see the outrage. Relative to what she has already been through, I mean, you have to be kidding.

pugwriter on December 4, 2009 at 8:31 PM

I really don’t see it either. I agree with her comments. But the Palin Haters out there will try to get some traction with it, as usual. Frum will do a three column series on it, and AP will dutifully link to each and every one of them.

Not news to me, yawn.

conservnut on December 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Cinday Blackburn on December 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM

You should cut back on the crack just a little. Just sayin…….

BacaDog on December 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Show me an author of a million-selling book in the last fifty years who is now in “relative obscurity in either radio or automotive sales.”

Just one.

cs89 on December 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

david lee roth went platnum 23 times

eh on December 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM

With last night as a warmup, and AP posting comments, we’re ready to go the distance my friends.

4000 comments by morning or I’m shaving my head bald.

TexasDan on December 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM

He wrote a book basically blaming Churchill for the Holocaust. He’s also an apologist for the Palestinians.
As a Jewish born Christian-soon to be Catholic Christian-who lost family at Babi Yar I find Buchanan and his “paleo-cons” to be beyond offensive.

Yeah, I know. And the left hates him for other reasons.

I still tend to like his commentary. He seems more centered to me than most.

AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:45 PM

I guess the only nuts these people like are ACORNS

WyoMike on December 4, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Allahdumit trolling for more hits and comments as the straw man of the HotAir site.
Get a better poster and allahadios.

PhilipJames on December 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM

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