Romney on Huckabee: Unlike some people, I never pardoned anyone
posted at 3:30 pm on December 4, 2009 by Allahpundit
An end o’ the week coup de grace for Huck from his archnemesis. Mitt does defend him, kinda sorta, by noting that Huck said he wouldn’t have commuted Clemmons’s sentence if he knew then what he knows now. But c’mon. Of course he wouldn’t have commuted it knowing that Clemmons would end up killing cops. The question is whether he was right to have commuted it at the time based on the facts available. Huck says yes; Mitt, based on the narrow clemency policy he lays out here, implicitly says no way. In fact, his emphasis on using guidelines so that he wasn’t “swung by, you know, personal impressions of people” is especially stinging given the perennial accusations that Huckabee was a sucker for religious appeals. Pretty harsh:
My conclusion was, if somebody has been convicted by a jury of their peers, and they’ve been prosecuted and the police were able to get the evidence necessary to put them behind bars, why in the world would I step in and reverse that sentence?
King asks the perfect follow-up question: If that’s the policy, why have pardon guidelines at all? Just rubber-stamp every jury sentence and be done with it. Romney’s answer is that you need executive discretion for cases of prosecutorial misconduct or exonerating evidence that comes to light later — but that’s really not true. Both of those issues can be, and often are, raised on appeal. Granted, the governor can move faster than an appellate court, but if Mitt’s willing to defer to the judicial process at the jury level, in theory he should be willing to defer to it all the way. If you believe the system works, let it work. The irony of Huckabee’s position is that he’s correct on the theory of executive clemency — i.e. it’s a check on the judiciary to remedy perceived miscarriages of justice — but he can’t quite accept that the executive is, or should be, checked himself by the potential backlash among voters if he abuses the clemency power. He handed out hundreds of pardons and commutations, then acts mystified when he’s blamed for helping scum like Clemmons go free. Too bad.
Update: Commenters remind me that if Huckabee’s gone too far with clemencies, Mitt may not have gone far enough.
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maverick muse on December 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM
My opinion does not matter, only facts. So unless you have proof, you are engaging in a smear campaign and deserve the Huck Troll label…wear it with pride.
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM
But that begs the bigger question: Why in Hell are we even choosing between a giant douchebag and a turd sandwich in the first place?
logis on December 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Ask Allahpundit, Mikey’s big brother. It’s LIFE, TGIF.
maverick muse on December 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM
The Romney abortion is a fact. Deal with it.
maverick muse on December 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM
I’m glad you added that footnote.
I’m appalled that he never exercised that power. That’s really NOT anything to brag about.
What in the world is his rationale for that?
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Romney Care, enough said.
Octavia on December 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM
You’re looking at this all wrong.
Mitt gave the statist morons in the Taxachusetts legislature what they were clamoring for, and now it’s the Commonwealth of Object Lesson. States are supposed to be breeding grounds for ideas good and bad, so that we can apply the good ideas and run screaming from the rest.
Sacrificing a blue state that subjected us to decades of Kennedys and Kerrys for the sake of the rest of the union seems a small price to pay.
sulla on December 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Mitt I’ll dance on Huckabee’s political grave, pay back for the last Presidential Primary? Huckabee did block Mitt from getting any traction.
Dr Evil on December 4, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Good article there. I agree with Huckabee on this one. Huckabee maybe over-used the power, but good gravy, what’s up with the Romney position?
That’s not commonsense.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Did you ever hear of anyone losing the GOP nomination by being too tough on crime?
I mean, it’s pretty clear he was going for a 100% record since his big problem in the GOP primary was that he’s too
much of a moderate.
Frankly, it’s a really big problem – every politician wants to be perceived as Mr. Tough on Crime Guy, and as a result we have a huge prison population with a lot of people who probably shouldn’t be there (or at least shouldn’t be there anymore).
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Wow, so RomneyCare was some elaborate ploy by Romney designed to showcase the failure of government run healthcare?!
Romneyites. Grasping. Straws.
LMAO
Norwegian on December 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM
If Mitt were Huck, he’d be blaming the judge presiding over a felony charge against a 13 year-old for shooting a kid with a BB gun.
ScottMcC on December 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM
maverick muse on December 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM
The abortion is a fact, who persuaded her to go through with it and what was said is pure conjecture on your part, and you know it.
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Should I have added the /sarc tag to help you out?
sulla on December 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Hope Huck and Mitt keep up the sparring! Neither has a chance in 2012, let alone 2016, and as long as they’re in the media spotlight then the MSM will have ready targets for their ongoing campaign to destroy all viable GOP Presidential hopefuls. That will give better, more conservative potential Presidential candidates a chance to get the experience they need under their belts and prepare for a serious run.
KendraWilder on December 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Sarah Palin on the Lars Larson radio program today:
“It was a horrible decision (Clemmons’ clemency)…I’m for the good guys and not the bad guys.”
technopeasant on December 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Huckabee should not be mentioned anymore.
PrezHussein on December 4, 2009 at 5:00 PM
It’s cute watching the ’08 primaries play themselves out on the HotAir comment threads again.
The only thing missing is csdeven screaming about how Fred Thompson rapes the puppies of elderly paraplegics in front of them and then bathes himself with their blood.
Harpazo on December 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Look everyone. NO NUANCE.
portlandon on December 4, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Palin vs. Huck post now needed
PrezHussein on December 4, 2009 at 5:12 PM
LOL, sorry. It just sounded like something a Romneyite actually might say to defend RomneyCare.
Norwegian on December 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I suspect the real reason Huckabee is so envious of, and therefore so hateful towards Romney lies somewhere in the images below…….
http://bigheaddc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/huckabee-family.JPG
http://www.ldsmag.com/arts/images/Romney-Family-Photo.jpg
D2Boston on December 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I did like Romney in 2008…but Romneycare? Not so much.
sulla on December 4, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I really just popped over here to amuse myself with some of the rantings of apacalyps, but nothing so far. Or did he actually manage to get himself banned due to comments on the “Hucklemency LOL” thread?
peski on December 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM
When you make thousands of decisions, and Gov. make thousands, you are bound to make some mistakes…some more egregious then others.
Pardon’s of obvious criminals are not mistakes you should make…however, not pardoning is similar to voting “present”, it is safe.
I think I prefer leaders who make decisions, rather then ones that sit on their hands…
right2bright on December 4, 2009 at 5:48 PM
LOL* She needs to deepen just a smidge. :)
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Score 1 for the flip flopper
Score 1 for Huck-a-phoney becaue he never supported socialized medecine for his state like Flip Flop did.
Score 2 for Palin who did not pardon violent criminals and did not support socialized medecine.
Game Sarah trailed by the RINO boys
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM
And you could use an IQ larger than room temperature, bit*h
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Whoa, stay classy! Also, I don’t know if you want to be calling other people stupid when your candidate of choice just dropped this bomb on us:
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Wow, that was intelligent. If you really like Palin, I’d advise you to keep your comments to yourself. You aren’t helping her.
peski on December 4, 2009 at 6:08 PM
What was wrong with that, moron? She does differentiate herself from Huckaphoney and the Dems who are for the bad guys and not the good guys.
Huck for violent criminals
Obama for violent anti-American dictators
Holder for FALN terrorist murderers
Kennedy for the Soviet Union
Kerry for the North Vietnamese
check and mate
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Romney’s absolutism may have gone too far, but I would prefer that approach over Huckabee’s. A case like the Iraq war vet shouldn’t even have to come to the governors desk. Clemency by the governor should be extremely rare.
echosyst on December 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM
It was descriptive and accurate Pesky little troll
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Nothing, Bill. Nothing at all. I applaud Sarah Palin for making the brave choice to be “for the good guys instead of the bad guys.” That’s a really well-reasoned analysis into the executive pardon power and how it should be used.
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Palin on Romney: Unlike some people, I never Obama-cared anyone.
jimmy2shoes on December 4, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Yeah, but you’re still an oily, creepy Massachusetts politician, Mr. Manchurian.
Take a hike.
tickleddragon on December 4, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Mitt running… and he’s serious this time…
Good…
Khun Joe on December 4, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Makes sense to me. “911 victims good. Terrorists bad.” “Police officers good. Criminals bad.” Common sense. Palin gets it.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Remember the case where there was a gentleman who needed a pardon so that he could work in law enforcement in MA. He used a beebee gun as a youth. Romney said no way, no how. Thus the guy who served in our military could not become law enforcement.
Difference in governing between Huckabee and Romney: Romney governed knowing he was going to run for president, so all his decisions were political.
Huckabee governed knowing he was a servant of the people, so all of his decisions were based on convictions, some of his decisions were mistakes.
Who do you want governing your state: someone who makes decisions speaking out of both sides of his mouth and looking for the next leg up in politics, or someone who makes decisions based on convictions.
texasconserv on December 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Which violent criminal walked free because Governor Palin pardoned them?
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM
If you weren’t a blithering idiot you’d realize that insults and name calling, especially when confronted with only the slightest of differences, just make you appear as stupid and mean as you clearly are.
Go ahead, keep it up. Folks like me, who are on the fence regarding Palin’s qualifications, will just chalk it up as one more sign that her true base is rife with dim bulbs.
peski on December 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Huckabee was pandering for votes when he pardoned Clemmons.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:28 PM
What I said:
What was wrong with that, moron? She does differentiate herself from Huckaphoney and the Dems who are for the bad guys and not the good guys.
What the a-hole edited it to be:
Proud to be dishonest Rino
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM
You’re hardly “on the fence” if you call Palin’s supporters “dim bulbs.” In fact, your folksy syntax suggests you’re just a concern troll.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:31 PM
peski on December 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Right and thankfully all issues are that simple. I don’t understand why we have so much debate sometimes, when it’s always just that easy.
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I didn’t call them dim bulbs – I called bill a dim bulb. And the more like him in her camp, the worse for her prospects.
I like Palin. I just don’t know if she really has what it takes. I’d pick her over Huckabee, and maybe Romney. But that’s not saying much.
peski on December 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM
While I agree that AnninCA is an idiot, calling her a bit*h was going too far.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM
So was Huckabee. That was the whole problem. He based his decisions on a question of character — which itself was too often based on a question of religion — rather than a question of justice.
RightOFLeft on December 4, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Oh wow, you’re a really nice guy.
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:35 PM
WRONG. HUCKABEE IS 4 BAD GUYZ.
Sincerely,
Bill300097
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Nuance begets corruption, while that is totally expected from politicians, especially “gifted orators” with blank resumes.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Hey, I’m an honest guy.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Mitt’s argument about being convicted by a jury of ones’ peers is less than compelling in this case:
However, lest anyone think a BB gun is harmless, if you get shot in the eye the consequences are far more dire than a welt.
Back to Huck, what is disingenuous about his telling of the Clemmons clemency is the fact that he keeps omitting his disciplinary record in jail as a juvenile, which included sexual assault. (Prosecuting attorney Larry Jegely [said] “He had battery, he had an assault, he had sexual offenses, he wasn’t a good prisoner”). So even if one stipulates that he was given an overly long sentence when first sent to jail, he continued to demonstrate a capacity for violence and had not been “rehabilitated” while in jail despite his prayerful pleas, and that propensity for violence cannot be blamed on not being a middle class white kid with a good lawyer.
Buy Danish on December 4, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Right, because stupid people never do anything corrupt. LOL. Good one, dude.
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Yes or no.
Is shooting cops bad? Is raping children bad? Is there any reason a child rapist should finish their sentence early so they can kill cops?
KTXBAI.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:41 PM
You seem to think the President is smart. Good one, dude.
chunderroad on December 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM
If that’s your self-image, good. I suspect other people might use different terms to describe you, at least so far as how you represented yourself in that post.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Proud Rino on December 4, 2009
More wisdom from our resident leftist idiot. Axelrod really needs to send us better trolls.
mcassill on December 4, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Actually, I picked up the wrong post. mea culpa.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Anyway, I disagree with Palin on this one. I listened to Huckabee’s explanation on the case and absolutely saw his reasoning and agreed.
Unfortunately, it turned out badly. But it seems quite a few people don’t know the facts behind it.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM
texasconserv on December 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I agree that I would rather have an honest man than a calculating one…but come on…Honest Huck? Not so much.
On this issue…I think Romney made a mistake….never kick a dead horse…especially when it will be viewed as paybacks, it makes you look petty and vindictive.
Its easy to dump on Huck, and arm chair quarter backing does not show leadership. It would of been better to say something like…
– When it came to pardons, I put complete trust in the legal system; however, it would be easy for me to judge Governor Huckabee as an arm chair quarter back and dump on his decision, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt, given that he reduced his sentence, he did not give him a full pardon.
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 7:00 PM
No, it didn’t turn out badly. It turned out to be a devastating tragedy for 4 families.
As for Huckabee’s reasoning, it just doesn’t fly. 1 or 2, or even 10 cases, I can see how he’d find flaws in the prosecution or sentencing, but he clearly had a “forgiveness” agenda. He went with his “heart”, rolled the dice, an is now responsible for dead cops. His political aspirations are dead.
peski on December 4, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Exactly. He did not release him. The parole board did that.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Proud dishonest Rinovirus troll should crawl back under her rock and go back to DU/Moron.org/HuffingPuffington posthole
bill30097 on December 4, 2009 at 7:08 PM
I think the rape case was actually worse for Huckabee. This case?
He didn’t have anything to do with the guy being out. And the prosecutor?
What gives with this baloney? He failed to file the proper paperwork! That’s pure incompetence.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:07 PM
I will say though his statement about basing his decision on the fact he was Black and not a Middle Class White kid, was more damning than the actual decision.
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 7:13 PM
That didn’t bother me. It’s the reality, particularly in Arkansas.
The kid might have gone complete bad anyway. We’ll never know. But the circumstances did not add up to the sentence, initially anyway.
In CA? I’m not so sure I would have bought that remark. Here, I had a friend whose white middle-class kid pulled a really stupid stunt. The prosecutor did the opposite. The other kids got off. She made an “example” out of him.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:16 PM
This information about Romney is extremely off-putting to me. I find that type scary.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:20 PM
It’s the reality, particularly in Arkansas.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Hmmm, you’re wearing your prejudice again and claiming your prejudice is Reality. If ( and that is a mighty if )there was an issue with Blacks getting worse treatment than middle class whites, then you fix THAT problem, and not by using the powers to pardon as the stick to fix racial issues.
Conservative Voice on December 4, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I grew up there. I understand the poverty and the problem with having an appointed defense attorney.
Specifics, I don’t know. There could have also been a problem with the prosecutor being way too heavy-handed.
But, in any case, the rape case supports criticisms people are making about Huckabee.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Extreme lack of judgment.
- The Cat
P.S. One always says yes the other always says no.
MirCat on December 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Those of you who say the “rape case” is worse for Huckabee, what are you talking about?
If you are talking about Wayne Dumond, Huckabee did not commute the sentence of or pardon him. Huckabee denied his clemency. The only link to Dumond was a letter that Huckabee wrote explaining why he was denying his request for clemency. Dumond was paroled by the state parole board, appointed by previous Democrat Governor Tucker.
jparks1972 on December 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM
I heard him last night and thought he was very thoughtful and didn’t bring the darn thing up until King asked him what he thought of the pardons. He said he was sure if Huckabee had a chance to do it over he wouldn’t. He never said how many he (Romney) had pardoned until he was asked by King. Gads I thought he was descent and did not pound on anyone. He said he was looking forward to reading Sarah’s book and he said she had brought great energy to the party. WHY ALL THE CRITICISM? We would be further ahead (with or without magic underwear – as that idiot keeps bringing up) and not in the quagmire we are in now with Romney as Pres. But no, you couldn’t vote for Romney! I do not think it was his sister who died of an abortion, it was his aunt. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that.
Bambi on December 4, 2009 at 8:11 PM
LOL. Cmon Rino, it only seems shallow. It’s actually part of her brilliant strategy to fool everyone into thinking she’s Bush-lite. Remember, she’s not retreating, she’s reloading.
ceruleanblue on December 4, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Thanks. You’re right. I just read the story. See, that’s what happens when you listen to talking points. The report I heard was quite different.
AnninCA on December 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM
It’s no shallower than what Ivy League Mitt laid on us. And God knows what nuance b.s. Obama would lay on the whole thing. “The jury acted stupidly”?
ddrintn on December 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM
LOL…the ultra-pardoner and the hardhearted cancel each other out.
ddrintn on December 4, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Your welcome. Wish more people would go back and read like you did. Thanks for that.
jparks1972 on December 4, 2009 at 9:18 PM
chickasaw42 on December 4, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Naive much? He commuted the sentence so the parole board could release him. He wasn’t in the dark here…..he knew the guy was going to be released once he made him eligible for parole. That was the whole point….to get him out of prison.
xblade on December 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM
“TUNNEL VISION”
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Let me explain exactly what happens when you get tunnel vision with a subject like the court system in America: All you see is “Huckabee, clemency, Huckabee, clemency, bad, kill, hate, redrum, redrum, redrum! It gets worse. Somebody like Allahpundit makes ridiculous statements about Mike Huckabee abusing his clemency power.
Let’s think outside the box for a minute and try to look at this from a different angle. Do you know how many times people are falsely convicted in the American “justice” system each year? Here is a good article explaining that 10,000 people are falsely convicted each year for crimes they did not commit.
Subject: 10,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE CONVICTED EACH YEAR, STUDY ESTIMATES
Snippet from article: COLUMBUS, Ohio — About 10,000 people in the United States may be wrongfully convicted of serious crimes each year, a new study suggests.
That’s an incredible statistic. It is amazing just how many people are in prison that shouldn’t be there! You have the questioning actions of the IRS who raid innocent Americans homes, seize their property, send them to prison. Millions of people in jail for drug-related offenses who should not be there. They have addiction problems. That’s all. They need help with addiction. How many families are suffering because their mom and dad is locked up when really they should be at home. Too many. Way too many.
Let me tell you. The more clemency and commutations a Governor makes, the better! Mike Huckabee had 1000 to 1,200 requests for help each year. He turned down over 90 percent of them. But, I’d want Huckabee as my Governor any day over somebody like Romney who NEVER reversed a sentence!
apacalyps on December 4, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Well, Huckabee’s got the Arkansas convict vote all sewn up then.
ddrintn on December 4, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Is that all you have to say? 10,000 people in the United States may be wrongfully convicted of serious crimes each year. People in jail who shouldn’t be. This is what I mean when I say people like you don’t think out of the box. Redrum. Redrum.
apacalyps on December 4, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Not in any logical theory.
To have a high level of confidence in the judicial system does not mean that one has to think it is infallible.
MB4 on December 5, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Hucskter pardoned so may because he thought his “forgiveness” could buy his way into heaven by counter balancing all his corruption.
MB4 on December 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Both Romney and Huckabee are worthless RINOs.
nelsonknows on December 5, 2009 at 12:42 AM
10,000 monkeys fly out of you butt every year, go have a cookie under your bridge.
nelsonknows on December 5, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Huckabee pardons people, Romney signs unconstitutional bills, they BOTH suck.
nelsonknows on December 5, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Here I am peski! Hi! Apacalyps walks over to peski with a smile. Hands him a Bible and a Gospel tract. “I love you peski. Have a great rest of the day! See ya!”
apacalyps on December 5, 2009 at 2:30 AM
I really don’t understand why an Governor or a President has the right to pardon anyone. Are they an all-knowing God? Of course not! They are one fallible person. This power just exchanges one person’s opinion over a group of peers who all came to the same deliberative decision in a fair and unbiased way!
The courts work better than any in history… then along come some President like Clinton and for campaign money lets his criminal cronies off!
To Romney’s examples I would add that some people are found guilty because of politics. That should be allowed to be pardoned…
What is the difference between a Governor letting someone off and a governer PUTTING someone IN prison! It is too much power for one person! It shouldn’t be used, only in the MOST extreme circumstances.
petunia on December 5, 2009 at 2:34 AM
I thought you melted away.
apacalyps on December 5, 2009 at 2:53 AM
Hi Petunia. Can I hold hands with you? Let’s talk.
apacalyps on December 5, 2009 at 2:54 AM
What is the difference between a Governor letting someone off and a governer PUTTING someone IN prison! It is too much power for one person! It shouldn’t be used, only in the MOST extreme circumstances.
petunia on December 5, 2009 at 2:34 AM
Do I really need to answer that? Our government is designed to protect the individual from an over reaching government…There is a HUGE difference between jailing anyone…and setting one free…ie FREEDOM. Its a good thing, the governor has to answer to the people if he is too forgiving of convicts…as Huck is no longer electable.
Conservative Voice on December 5, 2009 at 6:32 AM
I am a Sarah Palin fan but what I find interesting is that Huck’s supporters attack Mitt for not offering clemency but refrain from attacking Palin for conducting herself in the same manner.
Could it be that if they bring attention to Palin’s record on clemency they would find it more difficult to justify Huck’s “Christian empathy” and record on clemencies as Palin is perceived to be as devout as Huck is (Billy Graham videos QOTD)but feel that Romney’s Mormon religion can be dismissed and thus condemning his record does not bring into question any comparison based on religion.
If this is so, I believe this is a false premise. I believe Mitt is as devout as Huck and Sarah. And because of that I challenge the supporters of Mitt to use the same arguments against Sarah not invoking clemency as they have with Mitt.
technopeasant on December 5, 2009 at 7:16 AM
I meant “I challenge the supporters of Huck”
technopeasant on December 5, 2009 at 7:19 AM
Thanks for update. I’ve also heard of another case or two where Romney chose being a tough guy over decency and justice.
WannabeAnglican on December 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Romney/Palin 2012…..
adamsmith on December 5, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Further evidence (like we needed any more) that after Super Tuesday, the GOP nominees were a cast of buffoons, frauds and liars.
nelsonknows on December 5, 2009 at 8:59 AM
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