Palin: Obama’s birth certificate is fair game; Update: Transcript added; Update: Palin responds

posted at 10:44 pm on December 3, 2009 by Allahpundit

At 7:45, your quote of the day. Something for (almost) everyone here: For the left, smoking-gun proof that she’s a fringe character, and for Birthers, smoking-gun proof that their concerns are mainstream. As for righties like me and Ed (and Glenn Beck) who think this particular science is well settled, tomorrow should be a fun media day.

I wonder if she realized when she said this that it’s going to follow her around.

Update: Some people are commenting that they can’t load the clip, so here’s a transcript.

Would you make the birth certificate an issue if you ran?

I think the public, rightfully, is still making it an issue. I don’t have a problem with that. I don’t know if I would have to bother to make it an issue ’cause I think there are enough members of the electorate who still want answers.

Do you think it’s a fair question to be looking at?

I think it’s a fair question, just like I think past associations and past voting record — all of that is fair game. You know, I’ve got to tell you, too: I think our campaign, the McCain/Palin campaign didn’t do a good enough job in that area. We didn’t call out Obama and some of his associates on their records and what their beliefs were and perhaps what their future plans were. And I don’t think that that was fair to voters to not have done our jobs as candidates and as a campaign to bring to light a lot of the things that now we’re seeing made manifest in the administration.

I mean, truly, if your past is fair game and your kids are fair game, certainly Obama’s past should be. I mean, we want to treat men and women equally, right?

Hey, you know, that’s a great point, in that weird conspiracy-theory freaky thing that people talk about that Trig isn’t my real son. And a lot of people say, “Well you need to produce his birth certificate! You need to prove that he’s your kid!” Which we have done. But yeah, so maybe we could reverse that and use the same [unintelligible]-type thinking on them.

Update (Ed Morrissey): Late last night, Palin responded on her Facebook page in a post called “Stupid Conspiracy Theories”:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask… which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

Well, the best way not to get tagged as a Birther is to refrain from saying that people are “rightfully making it an issue” and that the only reason that she would avoid doing that herself is because “there are enough members of the electorate who still want answers.” It’s the same thing as Truthers saying that all they’re doing is “asking questions.” The answers have already been provided; they just reject them because they’re married to their conspiracies.

I think Palin just discovered the First Rule of Blogs: Don’t feed the trolls.

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I mean, vote for her anyway – the GOP is almost certainly going to lose in 2012, why not? But don’t get your hopes up.
Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Were your hands shaking as you typed that, is there an overflowing ashtray next to you, are you single-handedly keeping Mylanta profitable?

Bishop on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Yes, she does say that. But she also says the public is right to still be concerned about it and that it’s perfectly fair game come election time, even if she herself isn’t the one to raise the issue.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

If you haven’t noticed Allah, but the electorate are kind of tired of the politicians what they can & cannot be “concerned” about.

If the teapartiers listened to the Politicians, they would have been afraid to raise their voices because the might be seen as “racist”.

Palin’s statement that the electorate has the right to be concerned is more about telling the public that it is okay to stand up and question their government.

Read her book Allah.

portlandon on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

terryannonline on December 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Unlike the guy who currently holds that office who…

Doesnt know how many states we have. (50, not 57, in cause the kool aid has confused you some)

Doesn’t know what religion he has been claiming for the last 20+ year (hint: Its not the one he went to school with in Indonesia (even if thats the one he told George S.)

Cant tell a door from a window (hey, at least Dubba could use a door.. it was just locked).

Thinks the Constitution was written 20 centuries ago (in the former Constitutional Law professor’s defense, he probably never read it, and boy, does it show now)

Cant remember the name of his own Secretary of Defense (which he keep from the last administration… since he was a Senator for a while, you think he might have seen the name on a memo once or twice)

Cant read a teleprompter properly(Mr. President, the lines that start with “Obama:” are the ones you read)

Cant remember 4 names without a teleprompter.(you know for such a smart guy, he sure has trouble with names…)

Thinks the US invented the automobile (well, at least you arent Al Gore, he would have tried to take credit for it)

I can go on.. and on… and on…

And that is only The Won’s incredible mental prowess on display. Thats not even touching the tip of the iceberg or moronic gaffes that is the 0bama administration.

Wolftech on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM

A lot of local blogs in AK and ADN have questioned this theory a lot. They even take pics of her house in AK.

TimeTraveler on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

I wonder if she realized when she said this that it’s going to follow her around.

Until she clarifies tomorrow and everyone has to look for another dog to kick.

donh525 on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Bishop on December 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Agreed. There is an unusual amount of time spent by those that say she stands no chance, trying to convince others to believe that she stands no chance.

Sporty1946 on December 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Nice to see you around. Have not seen you post in a while.

rukiddingme on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Palin is done. Again.

LibTired on December 3, 2009 at 11:13 PM

So true. How many forks have been stuck in her? Either the tines aren’t gauging her correctly or the oven temperature is skewed, because she just keeps on defying all of her critics.

yogi41 on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Do Americans strike you as the type of people that like quitters? Has there ever been anyone who resigned political office (without moving on to a higher office) and recovered from it?

Is Obama a good campaigner? Will he exploit this if he runs against Palin in 2012?

Done.

Next.

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Oh, I don’t know. The Democrats don’t mind quitters, just look at their foreign policy.

I am sure that Palin’s quitting her position did hurt her with some people, but she might well comeback from that. If she does it will largely be because of the treatment she got from the press and the fact that she can honestly claim that she was maligned, harassed, and dogged to the point that she could not function in her job. Most people hate the press and they will feel some sympathy for her.

Obama might not be such a good compaigner in a few years.

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

If I recall correctly, a horde of reporters ascended to Wasilla and looked through actual trash to see if Palin actually threw away documents to conceal something from her past.

Yeah, some of them did do that after she was announced in order to dig up dirt. But these days, it’s really just Crazy Andy. At some point, the mainstream media and Democratic politicians simply accepted that she’s Trig’s mother and gave up on it. Not so of Birtherism on the right. Are you seriously arguing that Trig Trutherism is as prominent on the left, replete with congressional Democrats among the believers, as Birtherism among the GOP?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Allah got tha vapors tonight.

unseen on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

So what gives?

JAM on December 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM

What are some bad grades when you’ve copped to cocaine?

Spirit of 1776 on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

I think she did a fine job of taking a specific question about a specific subject and lumped into a great many areas that could have used during the campaign. The insinuation was that the public elected someone that they don’t know much about.

Cindy Munford on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

I think this is much ado over nothing. She clearly says it’s not an issue she’s interested in pursuing, but the public is free to have their own questions.

That’s all I get out of it. It’s akin to smarter Dems being polite about tea partiers and saying that they understand what people are worried over.

Or the standard remark that people are entitled to their own opinions.

AnninCA on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Rbastid on December 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Just got my daughter her drivers license here in Colorado…

Just having her “birth cert” was not enough. I also had to sign an affidavit as her parent to proove identity.

Interesting that my DAUGHTER is held to a higher standard, than the President of the US.

Romeo13 on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Do you think Palin is a birther? Yes or no?

TimeTraveler on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

I can’t think of a single Democratic pol who’s ever pushed Trig Trutherism.

Quite. But if you are concerned about equivalencies, I think she was hurt by similar claims – the emails about book bannings, creationism as school policy, penquins in slave labor that sort of thing. Matt Damon brought this up on National TV. My point being, that lies were pushed forward and that definitely helped define her. On that was a bigger scale then Sully.

Spirit of 1776 on December 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM

Absolutely right. Allahpundit can’t think of a single Dem pol who pushed Trig Turtherism because — voila! — plenty of Dem operatives elsewhere to do all the dirty work. As Dem pols know all too well.

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Do Americans strike you as the type of people that like quitters? Has there ever been anyone who resigned political office (without moving on to a higher office) and recovered from it?

Is Obama a good campaigner? Will he exploit this if he runs against Palin in 2012?

Done.

Next.

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM

*yawn*

Palin didn’t quit, regardless of how often you scream she did.

And I hope he does bring it up. It’ll give Palin a solid opportunity to tie Team Obama to the anklebiters who tried to ruin her.

powerpro on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Could somebody tell me why it’s so wrong to ask for the idiot in the White House to produce a birth certificate?

Is Obama so above everything that the question can’t even be asked?

I think Obama was born in Hawaii, but damn. So defensive! To put down Americans for legitimately asking a question is downright awful.

We can’t even get his college papers! WTF is this?!

cubachi on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Once again, Allahpundit’s “analysis” misses the larger picture.

Palin simply says that in our Republic, people have a right to express opinion*, and there is certainly a substantial group of Americans who question the BC issue, so why must they be muzzled?

Like her, I’m kinda of an agnostic about it. It’s not a big issue to me, but to many it is, and they have a perfect right to express it, no matter how you may disagree with it.

That’s called tolerance.

*

*The legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinion” – Thomas Jefferson

atheling on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

I guess I am too much of an origionalist to understand why this is NOT somthing which should be looked at.

Romeo13 on December 3, 2009 at 11:16 PM

I don’t know where Obama was born. I’d like the issue cleared up. Post your proof. Or shut up.

Basilsbest on December 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Members of the jury, loyal Hotair subjects, the Honorable Mr. Morrissey and the Honorable Mr. Allahpundit, the prisoners yet again at the bar, the absolutely incorrigible Romeo13 and Basilsbest, stand accused of trying to use the outdated U.S. Constitution, logic and reason and an attempt at teaching the unteachable, shaming the unshameable and waking the unwakable in an unholy combination to unfairly further confuse the members of the jury and to goad Barack Obama, our Dear Leader with the Certification of Live Immaculate Conception from no less than two locations, into a game of COLB, thereby and with malice of forethought, molesting, tormenting, and otherwise greatly annoying our beloved Dear Leader and all his loyal and adoring subjects. Now, Romeo13 and Basilsbest, Her majesty, The Queen, has instructed me to give you yet another last fair warning, either you or your heads must be off, and that in about half no time, which is now down to about a quarter no time! Take your choice!

Cheshire Cat on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Any GOP member running for President that feels the need to bring this up in 2011-12 does not deserve to be President. That is pretty pathetic if you cannot make a case for being President on ideas and the current President’s record.

WashJeff on December 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I’m totally in agreement with you. Recently I’ve been culling FaceBook “friends” that I discovered were Ronulans, birthers, truthers, Alex Jones fans, and the like.
I keep telling them-if WE THE PEOPLE can’t win with facts…We DON’T DESERVE TO WIN!
(yes I was shouting. It was intentional.)

annoyinglittletwerp on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Wait, Obama doesn’t have a driver’s license?

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

For driving the economy…it does not look like he has one.

WashJeff on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Oh my goodness, this certainly is a scandal.

Jim Treacher on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Are the Birthers really any more relevant than the Truthers? Doesn’t seem to me that they are. They have that one crazy lady who gets cases kicked out of Court, right?

And nobody talks about it any news program, except to reference the fringe. Same thing with the Truthers. Andrew Sullivan still is committed.

AnninCA on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

ProudRino, why are you still typing?

You never answer smackdowns, but just keep raising new issues.

To repeat my smackdown of your gotcha question nonsense; BO did get caught in a Truther gotcha’ question: He HIRED a 911 Truther to work in the WH! Knowingly, I might add. He got caught. And dismissed him at midnight on a Saturday night to avoid the brouhaha. (Van Jones, in case you weren’t paying attention.)

As to your new question “Has there ever been anyone who resigned political office (without moving on to a higher office) and recovered from it?”

Yes. Andrew Jackson. Resigned more than one public office.

And recovered enough to become President.

Now please stop typing, or type something useful next time.

hrh40 on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

I mean, vote for her anyway – the GOP is almost certainly going to lose in 2012, why not? But don’t get your hopes up.
Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM

right now, in a match up Obama is sweating to win against the no name Republican…I would not be so sure he can actually beat a live person. Not after he gets done pissing off the whole country.

The left might even abandon him after he turns war monger on them.

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Angst of the Liberal Trolls,as well as RINO“s and moderates
sitting beside each other,hopefully on seperate fence posts,
and hope`n and dream`n that sumpin might be fall SarahCuda!
(Snark).

canopfor on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Are you seriously arguing that Trig Trutherism is as prominent on the left, replete with congressional Democrats among the believers, as Birtherism among the GOP?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Among the Palin haters yes. Among the dems elite no. But then I don’t remember anyone of the dem elite coming out and denying the rumors, nor calling out those on the left that spewed the garbage. Is no comment the same has a wink, nudge affirmation?

unseen on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

rukiddingme on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Thanks. Haven’t seen you either. I read more than I comment.

Sporty1946 on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Do you think Palin is a birther? Yes or no?

TimeTraveler on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

I have no idea. Evidently she still thinks the issue is worth exploring, though, or else she wouldn’t have said the public’s “rightfully” concerned about it.

I’ll answer your question this way. If she isn’t a Birther, would she have answered this question this way? Or would she have said, “Nah, that official state short-form birth certificate is proof”?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Still waiting for those numbers…..

rukiddingme on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Darth Executor on December 3, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Ugh. First global warming now this. WHY SARAH WHY?

I don’t think she said quite what you think she said. From her Facebook note of today:

I’ve never denied the reality of climate change; in fact, I was the first governor to create a subcabinet position to deal specifically with the issue. I saw the impact of changing weather patterns firsthand while serving as governor of our only Arctic state. But while we recognize the effects of changing water levels, erosion patterns, and glacial ice melt, we cannot primarily blame man’s activities for the earth’s cyclical weather changes.

Note that she’s talking about dealing with natural climate change, which is a reasonable position. I don’t recall her ever saying climate change was anthropogenic.

Regarding the birth-certificate comment: urk! As a fan, it makes me weep. But, I read it (perhaps wishful thinking) in the context of Obama’s hiding the rest of his background. She doesn’t flat-out say his citizenship is open to question, but that the matter of access to his birth certificate is a legitimate question. (Hair-splitting, I realize, but, work with me. I’m falling into despair here. I also disagree with her, if this is her position.) In other words, if there’s nothing to hide in his birth certificate, his transcripts, &c., why is he so reticent to release them?

But, yeah, I wish she hadn’t gone there. I’m hoping for a clarification that lays this to rest.

irishspy on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I think Obama was born in Hawaii, but damn. So defensive! To put down Americans for legitimately asking a question is downright awful.

We can’t even get his college papers! WTF is this?!

cubachi on December 3, 2009 at 11:3

Feisty!

Diane on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I am officially a “Passporter” and a “transcripter” and a “medicaler”.

I want to see where he traveled, what kind of student he was, and whether he’s croaking from AIDs or something.

elduende on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

At some point, the mainstream media and Democratic politicians simply accepted that she’s Trig’s mother and gave up on it. Not so of Birtherism on the right. Are you seriously arguing that Trig Trutherism is as prominent on the left, replete with congressional Democrats among the believers, as Birtherism among the GOP?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Well, imagine if there had been a gag order on all of Palin’s documentation…

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I can’t believe out of a 17 minute interview, where you learn more about her then any other interview she has done in that amount of time, that that is what AP took from it…unless of course you where just looking for something to hit her on.

Vigilante on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I’m just saying READ HER BOOK. This is all nonsense in comparison.

John the Libertarian on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Interesting that my DAUGHTER is held to a higher standard, than the President of the US.

Romeo13 on December 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Well I would certainly hope so.

Cheshire Cat on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

SIGH.

The problem is — she’s probably RIGHT.

But this is politics and there’s more to it than simply running around being right. MUCH more.

This move just further confirms that, whatever else she does (or does not) have going on, she’s politically inept.

voxpopuli on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Yes, she does say that. But she also says the public is right to still be concerned about it and that it’s perfectly fair game come election time, even if she herself isn’t the one to raise the issue.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Exactly?!?! So, I don’t get all the giddiness from some posters on here that Sarah Palin’s political life is over. Any chink in your enemies’* armor should be exploited. Consider lingering legitimacy questions as a chink in the leader of the democrat party’s armor, especially in the context of what he and his administration and his party are attempting to do to the country.

*Yes, the democrats are our enemies.

SouthernGent on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Well, imagine if there had been a gag order on all of Palin’s documentation…

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

No, but see, that doesn’t matter. Because it just doesn’t.

Jim Treacher on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Palin plays to the worst instincts on the Right. She is doing her best to make us all look like a bunch of ignorant arses.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

This woman needs to go away so we can focus on real candidates….

therightwinger on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

A presidential candidate should have to make public his or her birth certificate, college transcripts, etc etc etc… basically every document every other presidential candidate has released but that Obama never has. This should be law and it should be done as a matter of course. Vetting a candidate should not be left up to the media or to the opposing candidate(s), none of whom did the “job” this time around.

It’s just plain dumb to ridicule Palin for basically saying that this is how things should be. This IS how things should be!

winfield on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

I would not care if Obama gets a dose of demands. He demanded to see Hillary’s daybook and implied she was hiding stuff. It led to days of “Where was Hillary when Bill…..”

So he can take it, too, since he dishes it out.

AnninCA on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

I got married recently and had to get a new drivers license and was told that an original birth certificate was not considered legal i.d..

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

So oft in constitutional wars
The disputants, I ween
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean
And speculate about a mysterious Birth Certificate
Not one of them has ever been allowed to have seen!

Cheshire Cat on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Palin plays to the worst instincts on the Right. She is doing her best to make us all look like a bunch of ignorant arses.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Welcome back, Moby.

Jim Treacher on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

The birth certificate has been released. Unfortunately, when you have people like Palin who DON’T read they will always wonder about it.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Look, I think Obama was probably born in Hawaii, but I don’t care if somebody else asks to see his birth certificate. For a contemporary parallel, see McCain, John: Panama Canal Zone. His campaign didn’t make a huge issue of doing whatever they could to ease constitutional concerns. Not so of Obama. The question is “why?” Something to hide, or using it to rope-a-dope “rightwingers?”

Palin did not endorse Birtherism, but also didn’t drive away potential voters who may have questions. She also tied the question to other “background” issues, wisely IMO.

Watching her, you can see the outlines of campaign themes emerging. “Commonsense Conservatism.” “Faith, Family, Freedom.”

I don’t think she’ll push “Birtherism,” but I could really imagine her saying “I take Obama at his word he was born in Hawaii. He did promise transparency, though, so why doesn’t he show us the most complete certificate available (note- whether that’s a COLB or long-form I actually have no idea), and release his college transcripts and medical records while he’s at it.”

There’d be some squirming in DC in response to that statement, I’m quite sure.

cs89 on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

I have no idea. Evidently she still thinks the issue is worth exploring, though, or else she wouldn’t have said the public’s “rightfully” concerned about it.

I’ll answer your question this way. If she isn’t a Birther, would she have answered this question this way? Or would she have said, “Nah, that official state short-form birth certificate is proof”?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

I’m sure she’ll post a fbook post regarding this. You and I both know the MSM will run with this, and she’ll clarify her beliefs I am sure of it.

deidre on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Oh, no. Not Chekote. What’s the matter? Nobody on Frum tonight?

Sporty1946 on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Among the Palin haters yes. Among the dems elite no. But then I don’t remember anyone of the dem elite coming out and denying the rumors, nor calling out those on the left that spewed the garbage.

Because, again, Trig Trutherism never went mainstream, even among Palin-haters, the way Birtherism has. Crazy Andy’s research assistants get paid to attack Palin, and even they refused to go along with his nuttiness. You’re acting like the Trig thing is a key cornerstone of the criticism of Palin from the left. Aside from Crazy Andy and some of the Alaska blogs, it’s not that prevalent.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

I mean, vote for her anyway – the GOP is almost certainly going to lose in 2012, why not? But don’t get your hopes up.

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Pround Rino: Your on the wrong boat,as luck would have it,
Hopey/Changey Titanic needs to pull along side
and allow for you to board it!!

Good luck,and watch out for political icebergs!
(sarc).

canopfor on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Allah, are you being deliberately obtuse?

This is a non-issue. If she says it’s not a legit issue, then the media spins it, “Palin believes constitution unimportant as it relates to be elected president.”

She gave a diplomatic answer to her base, some of whom are obsessed with Obama’s birth certificate — she says their concerns are valid and they should be free to pursue the issue, even though she wouldn’t raise it personally.

haikusrock on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

AP:

I’ll answer your question this way. If she isn’t a Birther, would she have answered this question this way? Or would she have said, “Nah, that official state short-form birth certificate is proof”?

Possibly she is. Or not, if rather she wonders why the high priest of Transparency is hiding it, which is a separable issue from his citizenship. (Which, btw, I do not question.)

But your question presumes we can guess her mind. We can’t. We’re just guessing in the dark at the moment, as I did in my last comment.

irishspy on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

You mean real candidates who’ve been mayors and governors and small business owners and oil and gas regulators?

You mean like them?

hrh40 on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Wait, Obama doesn’t have a driver’s license?

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

I dunno. Does he? Or has that been sealed as well?

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

I’m sure she’ll post a fbook post regarding this. You and I both know the MSM will run with this, and she’ll clarify her beliefs I am sure of it.

Yeah, that’s probably true.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

right now, in a match up Obama is sweating to win against the no name Republican…I would not be so sure he can actually beat a live person. Not after he gets done pissing off the whole country.

It’s harder to beat a no-name than a live person

The left might even abandon him after he turns war monger on them.

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

LOL, yeah. OK. Remember how all the Hillary Clinton supporters said they’d switch sides?

Right.

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Here we go with the name calling. The Palinistas can never stand on her merits. All they can do is try to make other look bad or discredit them. Unfortunately for them, every time Palin opens her mouth she makes her fans look like a bunch of ignorant yahoos.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Evidently she still thinks the issue is worth exploring, though, or else she wouldn’t have said the public’s “rightfully” concerned about it.

I’ll answer your question this way. If she isn’t a Birther, would she have answered this question this way?

It is easy to understand her answering this way on either score.

It is a Constitutional issue. Therefore, it by all accounts is an issue worth exploring. Even Congress address it with respect to McCain. She has expressed a consistent position of rule of law. I can easily understand that answer, but it’s my own view. I think the President was born in Hawaii, but I do think Constitutional issues are rightly raised by the people.

Spirit of 1776 on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

The birth certificate has been released. Unfortunately, when you have people like Palin who DON’T read they will always wonder about it.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Tell us more, Moby.

Jim Treacher on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

It’s fair game until it’s released.

Along with Obongo’s medical records, thesis and college transcripts.

David2.0 on December 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Exactly.

Mirimichi on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

I like Palin, and trust her instincts on the big stuff…economy…war and peace…but I’m afraid this indicates (once again) that she doesn’t follow political news very closely, outside her personal sphere of interest. She stepped in it, and sounds like she’s not aware that she stepped in it. She’s made the White House very happy.

RBMN on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Three years are a long time. But I will tell you one Republican who makes Obama look good: Palin.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

But your question presumes we can guess her mind. We can’t. We’re just guessing in the dark at the moment, as I did in my last comment.

True, which is why I didn’t call her a Birther in the post. She does think Birthers’ concerns are legitimate (“rightfully”) but she didn’t say anything like, “Yeah, I think Obama was born in Kenya.”

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Yeah, some of them did do that after she was announced in order to dig up dirt. But these days, it’s really just Crazy Andy. At some point, the mainstream media and Democratic politicians simply accepted that she’s Trig’s mother and gave up on it. Not so of Birtherism on the right. Are you seriously arguing that Trig Trutherism is as prominent on the left, replete with congressional Democrats among the believers, as Birtherism among the GOP?

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

And if she makes a serious run at office again, they’ll start it up again.

MadisonConservative on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Trig Trutherism never went mainstream, even among Palin-haters, the way Birtherism has.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

This is true.

My folks are birthers, and though I try to point out the irrelevancy of it, they are stuck on stupid on this issue.

John the Libertarian on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

AP, you may not like it, but the “science” of President Obama’s birth certificate was “settled” by the same types of people who “settled” the science of climate change. And just like climate change, that doesn’t make it untrue, it just makes it unsettled.

Knott Buyinit on December 3, 2009 at 11:12 PM

True, dat. Well said.

atheling on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Sporty1946 on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Me too. Had to post on this one because Proud Rino is going to give me the winning lottery numbers for Saturday.

rukiddingme on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Rbastid on December 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM

And yes… verily, I plead guilty to the charges laid agianst me…

But I must go back to an older form of Justice, trial by combat…

Me, and Obama… swords at dawn…

(of course, I just happen to be one of the Black Scarfed members of one of the top Elizabethan Fencing groups in the Nation, the Band of Black Tigers…. blacktigers.us )

Single Rapier? or Case? Mr Precedent?

Romeo13 on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Ahhh. Good times.

Wrong tree to bark up IMO, but to each his own.

Squid Shark on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Allah,

Have you been reading Randy Andy for the past year?

Of course Trig Trutherism is a Left Base issue. Why Palin is raising this at this time, I don’t know. It’s a distraction, I do know that, but she doesn’t raise it in a way that she believes the POTUS was born in Kenya. She likes to throw sand in his gears.

victor82 on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

winfield on December 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Obama produced documentation from Hawaii and there is also evidence in old papers that a birth announcement was placed in those papers on the day of his birth. They did not get in a way back machine to place that ad, it was done at the time.

I understand what people are saying about long form vs short form, but the short form comes from the long form so if it says he was born in Hawaii, then it will not contradict the original.

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Chekote, you mean people who don’t read but who quote from C.S. Lewis, David Horowitz, Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, and link to stories in the WSJ, WP, NYT, Cato Institute, etc.

You mean like them?

hrh40 on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Fair game; pretty non-controversial stuff.

More interesting is
Palin + Birther = 300 comment thread.

LASue on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

Then how would she present the other things that were willfully overlooked during the last election? Any shouldn’t she get brownie points for blaming the campaign instead of the press? To this day, no one wants to hold this man to equal scrutiny. I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us all.

Cindy Munford on December 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

trust her instincts on the big stuff…economy…war and peace

Why do you trust her instincts? What basis?

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Wait, Obama doesn’t have a driver’s license?

Proud Rino on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

I dunno. Does he? Or has that been sealed as well?

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

He does. He paid former Gov. George Ryan and got his license. That’s the IL way.

WashJeff on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

This move just further confirms that, whatever else she does (or does not) have going on, she’s politically inept.

voxpopuli on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

LOL…..politically inept? she just secured the votes of many many GOp rank and file. Unlike the elites in NYC andDC that get the willies about the BC issue. Most of the rank and file agree with her. Her ability to talk the talk on this issue just cements her has an “everyday” person in their eyes. She said it in such a way that she can disown it if needed. If you listen to what she said. she called out the media (again) affirmed the rank and files questioning of Obama, drove one more wedge in the Obama is an unamerican meme, and yet did not embrace anything.

She played it liek a fidle.

unseen on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Unfortunately for them, every time Palin opens her mouth she makes her fans look like a bunch of ignorant yahoos.
Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Who is your dream POTUS candidate for 2012?

Bishop on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Read her book Allah.

portlandon on December 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Good God, are you saying that Allahpundit has not even read her book? And he continues to write posts about her?

He really is the Oprah Winfrey of the Blogosphere.

atheling on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Here we go with the name calling. The Palinistas can never stand on her merits. All they can do is try to make other look bad or discredit them. Unfortunately for them, every time Palin opens her mouth she makes her fans look like a bunch of ignorant yahoos.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Um, you were referring to your posts, right?

haikusrock on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

she’s politically inept.

voxpopuli on December 3, 2009 at 11:36 PM

AKA “honest”.

ddrintn on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

I’m sure she’ll post a fbook post regarding this. You and I both know the MSM will run with this, and she’ll clarify her beliefs I am sure of it.

If she appears on Hannity/Rush/Greta to “clarify” this, then we’ll know she’s for sure running in 2012.

SouthernGent on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Three years are a long time. But I will tell you one devotee to Obama who looks good: me.

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Wow, groundbreaking admission ignoramus!

daesleeper on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

After watching what HuffPo does with stories regarding Palin and the complete insanity of the reactions, I’d say this will be a bit of a blip. It’s all blending into insignificance.

When every sentence is parsed for meta-meaning, normal people just tune out. It’s just more over-reaction.

AnninCA on December 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Trig Trutherism never went mainstream, even among Palin-haters, the way Birtherism has.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

I have actually wondered if Obama is encouraging this in a way. To throw people off of other things, distract them, or make them look paranoid…something.

Terrye on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

keep telling them-if WE THE PEOPLE can’t win with facts…We DON’T DESERVE TO WIN!
(yes I was shouting. It was intentional.)

annoyinglittletwerp on December 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

And the actual, irrefutable, facts of Obama’s birth are?

donh525 on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

It’s not fair game? This is f’ing Russia now?

Ronnie on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Rbastid on December 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM

soooo.. is it then your position that a dual citizen meets the Constitutional Requirment of being a “Natural Born Citizen”?

Romeo13 on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

I’m sure she’ll post a fbook post regarding this. You and I both know the MSM will run with this, and she’ll clarify her beliefs I am sure of it.

Yeah, that’s probably true.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Maybe Palin is a fan of HA. :-)

Norman Blizter on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

trust her instincts on the big stuff…economy…war and peace
Why do you trust her instincts? What basis?

Chekote on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Chekote: Two years of Senator experience,hows that work`n
for ya!!

canopfor on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Who is your dream POTUS candidate for 2012?

Bishop on December 3, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Karl F*#(ing Marx

daesleeper on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Considering how much Obama has wantonly violated the Constitution, the birth technicality seems rather moot.

John the Libertarian on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Trig Trutherism never went mainstream, even among Palin-haters, the way Birtherism has.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

and there is a reason for that, too.

Why has Obambi kept spending millions in legal bills to try and stop discovery? Why not just lay it all out on the table. Here’s my birth certificate, here is a complete medical history and here is my college transcripts.

shomegirl on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Obama got to where he is in politics by scouring sealed court documents, signatures and various other ‘legal wrangling’. It is what eventually be his ruin.

thomasaur on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

Yes, she does say that. But she also says the public is right to still be concerned about it and that it’s perfectly fair game come election time, even if she herself isn’t the one to raise the issue.

Allahpundit on December 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Election time isn’t the ideal time to determine if a candidate meets the minimum qualifications of the office for which he is campaigning? I’m all for the birthers shutting up about impeachment at the moment, but when the next election rolls around, they get another, legitimate, shot at the brass ring.

DFCtomm on December 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

I have never seen AP stick with apos like this for so long before. Why is this such a big deal? What was she supposed to say? “Oh those ignorant birthers! They’re all such ignorant hicks?” Why would she insult lots of people who (potentially) are her followers in order to appease a MSM that loathes her? I don’t get it.

cynccook on December 3, 2009 at 11:45 PM

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